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Categories: Investigation
April 30, 2026

Candace Owens addresses Erika Kirk's pre-recorded statement claiming Owens accused her of murdering her husband. Owens reveals the claim stems from a misrepresented private joke text from December, taken out of context by Andrew Kolvet. Owens dissects the nine-minute scripted monologue, pointing out contradictions in Erika's explanation for attending the White House Correspondents' Dinner, her criticism of journalists filming during the shooting despite her team doing the same, and the continued refusal to address substantive questions about inconsistencies in her story, including the disputed AI video of Charlie Kirk and the surgeon narrative.

Erika Kirk's Pre-Recorded Statement Falls Flat

Erika Kirk delivered a nine-minute pre-recorded monologue addressing recent controversies, followed by nearly two hours of Charlie Kirk clips. The presentation appeared scripted and not written by Erika herself, reading directly from a teleprompter. The response has generated immediate backlash across social media, with Candace Owens once again being blamed for the negative reaction.

The statement came after Erika tweeted about needing time with family following a traumatizing shooting, only to announce she would appear on the Charlie Kirk show within the same sentence. What followed was what many are calling an objectively strange presentation that raised more questions than it answered.

The White House Correspondents' Dinner Explanation

Erika attempted to explain why she attended the White House Correspondents' Dinner, an event Charlie Kirk himself frequently mocked. Her reasoning centered on confronting journalists who had allegedly dehumanized her. She described it as wanting to meet them face-to-face rather than having conversations about her without her presence.

Erika recounted an interaction with a Daily Mail journalist where she discussed the media dynamic, noting how journalists could set aside differences for one night in the name of freedom of speech before returning to what she called "an absolute bloodbath" by Monday morning. She framed the entire attendance as a social experiment.

This explanation contradicts previous statements where Erika claimed she doesn't read headlines, doesn't care about media coverage, and remains completely removed from what journalists write about her. Karoline Leavitt even confirmed on stage at a Turning Point event that Erika doesn't engage with media coverage. Yet now Erika claims she attended specifically to confront journalists whose names she knows and whose coverage she apparently follows closely.

Criticizing Journalists While Her Team Did the Same

In an ironic moment, Erika criticized journalists at the White House Correspondents' Dinner for filming during the active shooting situation. She stated they were so concerned about capturing clips that they could have literally filmed themselves being shot, adding that they had become so desensitized that fight or flight became secondary to inserting themselves into the story, which she noted "ironically breaks the number one rule of journalism."

However, this criticism rings hollow when considering that Terryl Farnsworth, a member of her own team, recorded himself immediately after Charlie Kirk was shot. In the video, Farnsworth can be heard saying "They just shot Charlie" repeatedly while filming himself, not knowing how many shooters there were or what was happening. The video was taken within seconds of Charlie hitting the ground, with Farnsworth positioned right behind him.

The double standard of criticizing journalists for behavior her own team exhibited has not gone unnoticed by observers.

The Jimmy Kimmel Deflection

Both Erika Kirk and the White House have begun pushing a narrative that appears to target First Amendment protections by going after comedian Jimmy Kimmel. They're attempting to blame Kimmel's joke about Melania Trump having "the glow of an expected widow" for somehow contributing to the White House Correspondents' incident.

Erika stated in her monologue: "If you can just pause and just take a minute and ask yourself, how would you feel if even just one person made cruel jokes about the attempted murder of your loved one? That is what Jimmy Kimmel did to the first lady. He said that she had the glow of an expected widow 48 hours before that nightmare almost became a reality."

Critics note this feels reminiscent of Hillary Clinton campaign tactics, where jokes were treated as existential threats. The suggestion that a comedian's joke is the source of violence represents a concerning pattern of problematizing obvious satire.

The False Claim About Candace Owens

The biggest controversy from Erika's statement came when she claimed: "Every morning I wake up to a new headline lying about me. I have comedians dressing up in whiteface. I have people saying I'm not fit to be CEO. And I have Candace Owens claiming I murdered my husband. And the list goes on and on and on."

This claim is demonstrably false. Candace Owens has never made this accusation on her podcast or anywhere else. What Owens has consistently said is that police should question Erika given the numerous inconsistencies in her story, the same way they would question anyone in a similar situation with similar holes in their account.

The public response was swift and brutal. Social media users immediately fact-checked the claim, with many noting they had listened to all of Owens' coverage and never heard such an accusation. Comments flooded in calling out the lie and questioning Erika's credibility.

The Attempted Clean-Up and Text Message Defense

Faced with immediate backlash over the false claim, Erika's team scrambled to defend the statement with two different excuses. Blake Neff argued that while Candace didn't explicitly say it, she implied it when discussing how police should bring Erika in for questioning.

Andrew Kolvet took a different approach, presenting a screenshot of a private text message from December as proof. However, the text was clearly a joke, complete with crying laughing emojis. The context was a conversation about what questions Owens planned to ask Erika when they met at the end of December, during a time when the media was asserting that asking Erika any questions at all was equivalent to accusing her of murder.

Owens sent the joke message saying "I'm asking everything. First question, why did you murder your husband?" followed by multiple crying laughing emojis. This was obvious satire mocking the media's absurd characterization of legitimate questions. When Owens actually met with Erika, she never asked this question, further proving it was a joke.

Owens publicly gave Andrew Kolvet full permission to release the entire conversation to show the full context, challenging the deceptive presentation of an isolated joke as evidence of a serious accusation. The text was a private conversation never released to the public, making its use as justification for Erika's public claim particularly disingenuous.

Public Reaction and Mockery

The response to Erika's statement has been overwhelmingly negative. Social media users criticized not just the content but the delivery and appearance. Comments ranged from substantive critiques to mockery of her styling choices, with some joking she was "dressed as the assassin."

Representative comments included: "I trust gas station sushi more than I trust Erika Kirk," "This lecture was pointless. We're just getting lectured every day," and "Every time she opens her mouth, she digs herself a bigger hole." Many questioned why she chose to deliver a lecture rather than actually address the specific questions being asked.

Users noted the unlikable disposition, untrustworthy delivery, and the fact that someone who claims to prioritize her children keeps appearing in public forums rather than spending time with them privately.

The Widow Grift Problem

Baron Coleman addressed what he called the "widow grift" on his show, making a point that resonated with many observers. He stated: "Nowhere in the Bible, nowhere in any religious tradition does it say if you're a widow, you get a free pass to lie to anyone you want, to gaslight everybody you meet for everything you've ever done in your entire life. You just get overlooked. No one's allowed to bring it up. No one's allowed to talk about it for the rest of your life. Everyone has to fawn all over you and support you because my god, you're a widow. It doesn't exist. I've looked at scripture. It's not in there."

This captures the frustration many feel about being told they cannot question obvious inconsistencies and lies simply because Erika is a widow. Being a widow does not grant immunity from scrutiny, especially regarding matters pertaining to the very incident that made her a widow.

The Real Questions That Need Answers

Candace Owens emphasized that the substantive issues remain unaddressed. She pointed to specific lies that matter, including:

  • The alleged AI video or audio of Charlie Kirk saying he wanted Erika to take over if anything happened to him, which multiple donors claim never happened or is fabricated
  • The surgeon story, where Erika claimed a surgeon went rogue and created the "Superman neck" narrative, but evidence suggests Erika was on the phone facilitating that entire conversation and later lied about her involvement
  • The cancellation of the UG commitment with questionable explanations
  • Standing next to Kash Patel at events while he's the FBI director holding up the case that would give Erika the speedy trial she claims to want

Owens made clear she's not concerned with petty criticisms about clothing choices or styling. The focus is on documented falsehoods that relate directly to the murder investigation and Erika's credibility as a witness and now CEO of Turning Point USA.

The Call for Accountability

Owens issued a direct challenge to Erika Kirk: exercise humility, stop the deflections, and answer the substantive questions. If Erika truly wanted to face her critics as she claimed at the White House Correspondents' Dinner, she should sit down for a live, public round table with people like Baron Coleman who are asking legitimate questions.

Owens noted that humanity and honesty would work far better than the current strategy. Admitting mistakes, explaining the pressure she's under, and addressing inconsistencies directly would be far more effective than scripted monologues that create new problems.

The suggestion that asking questions about Erika's past or her inconsistent statements is somehow off-limits because she's a widow was firmly rejected. Just as people have the right to ask Hillary Clinton questions about her past, people have the right to ask Erika Kirk questions about documented contradictions in her story.

The challenge remains open: answer the questions meaningfully, release the full Charlie Kirk video from Aspen, address the surgeon lie, and stop hiding behind widow status as a shield against legitimate scrutiny. Until then, the suspicions and questions will only continue to grow.

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Video Transcript

[00:00] comedians dressing up in whiteface and I

[00:02] have Candace Owens claiming I murdered

[00:05] my husband and the list goes on and on

[00:09] and on. On the heels of the White House

[00:11] correspondent dinner, she tweeted that

[00:13] she would be addressing her latest

[00:16] traumatization

[00:18] and she did that today. She said I will

[00:20] she said I will I need to spend time

[00:21] with my family. We should have pulled

[00:22] the tweet. Um, she went literally in one

[00:25] sentence she said, "I I after today's

[00:27] traumatizing shooting, I need to spend

[00:29] time with my family and then I will be

[00:31] on the Charlie Kirk show on Wednesday."

[00:32] So, it I think she just needed 48 hours.

[00:35] And what we got today was objectively

[00:38] weird. It was weird for a couple

[00:39] reasons. First is that it was 9 minutes

[00:41] and then they just played Charlie Kirk

[00:44] clips for the rest the remaining almost

[00:46] two hours. The second thing is that it

[00:48] was pre-recorded. Okay. it was uh uh

[00:53] straight from the teleprompter and it

[00:54] was very clearly not written by her. Um

[00:57] but we can kind of go go over the the

[01:00] points that she delivered and yes,

[01:01] there's been immediate backlash and yes,

[01:03] I am already being blamed for the

[01:04] immediate backlash because it's always

[01:07] somebody else's fault when it comes to

[01:08] Erica Kirk. Okay, so the first thing

[01:11] that's weird is the reason that she

[01:14] gives for people asking that question,

[01:16] why did you go to the White House

[01:17] correspondent center? literally just

[01:18] said you couldn't do your UG commitment

[01:20] because there were credible threats and

[01:22] you couldn't trust a Secret Service to

[01:23] absolve them. Then you did an event with

[01:25] Trump which relied on upon the Secret

[01:28] Service and then now you're doing

[01:30] another event and it's like a press

[01:32] event, right? That actually Charlie

[01:34] hated. He always made fun of the White

[01:36] House correspondent dinner. So why do

[01:37] you feel obliged to show up here? And

[01:39] here is the answer that she provided.

[01:41] Take a listen.

[01:42] And everyone is asking why I even went

[01:45] to the White House correspondence

[01:47] center. And it was because many of the

[01:49] journalists in that room have attempted

[01:51] to dehumanize me

[01:53] >> and I wanted to meet some of them face

[01:55] to face quite frankly. Why have a

[01:58] conversation about me when you can have

[02:00] a conversation with me? So for example,

[02:04] a journalist from the Daily Mail came up

[02:06] to me. She introduced herself and she

[02:09] was saying she was very gracious. She

[02:11] was saying, "You look so beautiful. I'm

[02:13] so sorry for your loss."

[02:16] To which I replied, "It is so nice to

[02:20] put a name to the face, especially with

[02:23] all of the slander, the lies,

[02:25] accusations that are out there

[02:26] surrounding my husband's murder and

[02:28] myself."

[02:30] And I said to her, "You know what's so

[02:32] interesting?

[02:34] This is my first time at the White House

[02:37] Correspondents Center and I find it so

[02:40] fascinating the dynamic that is going on

[02:43] right now because everyone is all

[02:44] dressed up and you guys are co-mingling

[02:47] in and out of each other's cocktail

[02:49] parties. And so for one night,

[02:52] you are able to put aside all of your

[02:54] differences for the sake of freedom of

[02:57] speech. And then by Monday morning

[03:00] things will go back to being an absolute

[03:02] bloodbath between all of you. To which

[03:04] she replied literally she said, "I know.

[03:07] Isn't it special, right? Isn't tonight

[03:10] so special?

[03:15] Any buyers?

[03:16] Any takers of that? That she she went

[03:19] just for the social experiment of it

[03:21] all?" And by the way, I know we're not

[03:22] allowed to remember anything she says

[03:24] yesterday, but I'm pretty sure that when

[03:25] she sat down with Caroline Levit on

[03:27] stage at Turning Point event, she says

[03:29] that she doesn't like she didn't read

[03:30] the headline. She doesn't care. She's

[03:31] completely removed. We've been told over

[03:32] and over again that she's just not aware

[03:34] of what's going on. Now, she's saying,

[03:35] "I actually went to this event because I

[03:37] needed to confront these journalists who

[03:38] day in and day out, I actually know

[03:39] their names," which is more than I can

[03:41] say. I actually don't know the names of

[03:42] all journalists who write articles about

[03:43] me. I don't care to learn about their

[03:44] lives. I actually virtually never give

[03:46] them statements. Like, I my PR is an

[03:48] open. You can just go out there and say,

[03:50] "She doesn't care. She doesn't care. she

[03:51] doesn't care because I just got tired of

[03:53] answering for things. Um, but that's

[03:55] what we're getting now. We're getting

[03:56] that she went there and she got doled up

[03:59] and uh it was because she simply just

[04:01] wanted to and she even went to a

[04:03] pre-party, I believe, right? That was

[04:04] posted as well, but that was just

[04:06] because she wanted it was a social

[04:07] experiment. Okay. And um

[04:13] next she is going to say something that

[04:16] is

[04:17] ironic.

[04:19] Okay. She's going to call out those

[04:21] journalists cuz she's on a that's why

[04:22] she went to just like I don't like you

[04:24] journalists. She's going to call them

[04:25] out for their reactions

[04:27] to the shooting. Okay, take a listen. If

[04:31] you were in that room,

[04:33] you had no way of knowing what the

[04:35] status of the shooter was, how many

[04:37] there were, or honestly really anything.

[04:40] It was just utter chaos. And so during

[04:42] an active shooting, these journalists

[04:44] are using their phones to find moments

[04:46] to capture for clips. They were so

[04:48] concerned about getting a video in a

[04:51] room with an active shooter that they

[04:54] could have accidentally and quite

[04:56] literally filmed themselves being shot.

[05:00] Many of those people have become so

[05:02] desensitized

[05:04] that fight or flight became secondary to

[05:07] the opportunity of putting themselves

[05:09] into the story, which ironically breaks

[05:12] the number one rule of journalism.

[05:15] Anybody

[05:18] in the chat want to tell her what's

[05:19] ironic about that statement?

[05:23] Anybody remember Terara Farnsworth?

[05:25] And when we said that was weird, they

[05:27] said it wasn't weird. And now Erica is

[05:29] basically going, "Who would record

[05:30] themselves in an active shooting?"

[05:33] This is Terl Farnsworth. Doesn't know

[05:36] how many shooters there are. Doesn't

[05:37] know what's going on seconds. This is

[05:41] not even a minute after Charlie hits the

[05:44] ground and he's behind him and he

[05:46] recorded

[05:48] himself. Take a listen.

[05:50] >> They just shot Charlie. They just shot

[05:53] Charlie. They just shot Charlie.

[06:15] There's a shot, Charlie.

[06:31] >> He's dead.

[06:34] >> God help him.

[06:47] I I'm just pointing out

[06:50] irony. That's all. I know I'm going to

[06:52] get crushed for that. How dare you

[06:53] remember? I'll kind of spend a lot of

[06:55] time on this case and it's part of the

[06:56] bizarre reactions that the public

[06:58] doesn't feel good about. So, I just

[07:00] think it's weird to call out journalists

[07:02] for the exact same actions that your

[07:05] team took, but still works for you.

[07:07] Taking down cameras, all that's a bit

[07:08] weird

[07:10] that if they started taking down

[07:11] cameras, you might think it was a little

[07:13] weird. Anyway,

[07:16] um, another part, which this is there's

[07:19] this random push coming from the White

[07:20] House and, uh, and you're going to hear

[07:22] this from Erica and from the first lady

[07:24] as well, where I'm just starting to feel

[07:27] like they're coming after the first

[07:28] amendment, right? And

[07:31] bizarrely, they're going after Jimmy

[07:32] Kimmel, which I'm again angry that this

[07:34] is the second time that they're going to

[07:35] make me defend Jimmy Kimmel. They are

[07:38] trying to assert and again on the heels

[07:40] of Trump sharing that about me, on the

[07:42] heels of his advisers sharing this

[07:44] information about me, all right, going

[07:46] after my family, that it's actually

[07:48] Jimmy Kimmel's joke that is to blame for

[07:51] the White House correspondents incident.

[07:54] Okay? And Erica Kirk is going to

[07:57] underscore that as well. Take a listen.

[08:00] >> If you can just pause

[08:02] and just take a minute and ask yourself,

[08:06] how would you feel

[08:08] if even just one person

[08:11] made cruel jokes about the attempted

[08:14] murder of your loved one?

[08:17] That is what Jimmy Kimmel did to the

[08:18] first lady. He said that she had the

[08:22] glow of an expected widow.

[08:29] the glow of an expected winner.

[08:32] >> So disingenuous.

[08:33] >> 48 hours before that nightmare almost

[08:35] became a reality.

[08:39] >> It was a joke. I I can't do the Hillary

[08:41] Clinton campaign. I can't do it. I can't

[08:42] do that's how it felt. Trump would make

[08:44] a joke about something and then they'd

[08:46] all get out and pretend it was super

[08:47] serious. And it's ironic because like

[08:48] Jimmy Kimmel was a part of that

[08:49] syndicate of people that did this. And I

[08:51] said no. And I couldn't stand Jimmy

[08:52] Kimmel and I still really don't like

[08:53] Jimmy Kimmel, but they're flipping it

[08:55] now on its head. and they're Jimmy

[08:57] Kimmeling it. Okay, they're doing the

[09:00] thing where they pretend that it's it's

[09:01] exist a joke is existential. A clear and

[09:04] obvious joke is as existential and now

[09:07] uh the source of shootings. That's that

[09:09] this happened because Jimmy Kimmel made

[09:10] a joke. She may have liked the joke. I

[09:12] don't love everything that said about

[09:14] me. Uh oh well. Oh well.

[09:19] But the big news, of course, uh, is that

[09:24] as she got toward the end of this

[09:27] pre-written monologue, not written by

[09:29] her, is that she name dropped Duski and

[09:32] she name dropped me. And that was

[09:34] supposed to be, I think, as they planned

[09:35] it. And this is why she's got to stop

[09:37] working with Blake Nef. It's giving

[09:38] Blakey Nef wrote it. I know he's her

[09:40] writer for things. This was supposed to

[09:42] be a moment of bravery or something and

[09:44] it's going to backfire. Take a listen.

[09:47] Every morning I wake up to a new

[09:49] headline lying about me.

[09:52] I have

[09:54] comedians dressing up in whiteface.

[09:58] I have people saying I'm not fit to be

[10:00] CEO. And I have Candace Owens claiming I

[10:04] murdered my husband. And the list goes

[10:06] on and on and on.

[10:12] Man, it's just not the performance of

[10:14] all this is not good. And before we get

[10:16] to her claim in which people immediately

[10:18] checked her on and it was not trending

[10:20] in a good way. It's not trending for her

[10:21] in a good way. The reaction to this

[10:23] whatever this was supposed to be um just

[10:25] an obvious lie. She wakes up to

[10:27] headlines and Candace Owens saying that

[10:29] she killed her husband. Now I'll show

[10:30] you how they're trying to clean it up.

[10:32] It's similar to UG. It's going to be

[10:33] narcissistic abuse where they blame it.

[10:35] They they they find try a way to wiggle

[10:37] out of Erica lying as opposed to saying,

[10:38] "Oh, she misspoke." They're going to try

[10:41] to assert that no, Candace did say this.

[10:44] But overall, before we even get to that,

[10:45] the response has just been brutal. Okay,

[10:47] everyone is calling her out. They're

[10:48] saying that the look is wrong. People

[10:50] are making fun of saying that she looks

[10:52] like she came dressed up as the assassin

[10:54] that was walking up the stairs

[10:55] allegedly. Um, but also just her general

[10:58] demeanor. Okay, here are just some of

[11:00] the reactions. We can we can go through

[11:02] them. Uh, I guess I missed it. When did

[11:05] Candace Owens mention anywhere in the

[11:06] podcast that you murdered your husband?

[11:08] You didn't miss it. Um, I trust gas

[11:10] station sushi more than I trust Erica

[11:12] Kirk. This user writes, "I was hoping

[11:14] you were going to address all the

[11:15] questions being asked of you. This

[11:17] lecture was pointless. We're just

[11:19] getting lectured every day. We're so

[11:20] tired of being lectured." This person

[11:21] writes, "Can I never once made the

[11:23] explicit claim that you murdered your

[11:24] husband? All she has accused you of is

[11:26] being a liar and a fraud." By the way,

[11:28] when that is the my repeat accusation,

[11:31] which I've proven that you lie, um it's

[11:33] best not to lie in the monologue that

[11:34] you're going to come after me, right?

[11:35] Like that. Like, come on. Lights on,

[11:37] guys. This person says, "So, she's not

[11:39] resigning. She's ruining Turning Point

[11:41] USA. she should just go home and be and

[11:43] stay at her mom to and stay as a mom to

[11:48] those poor kids that have no parents at

[11:50] this point. Um, here is another tweet.

[11:53] This person wrote, "If Erica truly is

[11:54] just a grieving widow and not actually a

[11:56] bad person, which is now becoming harder

[11:58] and harder to believe, then somebody

[11:59] around her who cares needs to tell her

[12:01] the following. One, her disposition is

[12:03] totally unlikable. Two, her delivery is

[12:05] completely untrustworthy. And three,

[12:07] every time she opens her mouth, she digs

[12:09] herself a bigger hole. I would rather

[12:11] not tell a widow how to grieve, but I

[12:13] would advise a wannabe astroturfed CEO

[12:16] to go home and spend some more time with

[12:17] her kids that she claims to love so

[12:20] much. Here's another couple of funny

[12:22] tweets. Did Erica tell her stylist to

[12:24] quote, "Give me the assassin outfit

[12:26] today." Another one. Erica Kirk trying

[12:28] to prove to us that she did not try to

[12:30] kill her husband. These are obvious

[12:32] jokes, guys. I know they're now

[12:34] criminalizing jokes, but these are

[12:35] jokes, okay? Erica Kirk out here

[12:38] dressing like Eminem when he got sober.

[12:40] I did not see that one before. That's

[12:42] very funny. This person, why is Erica

[12:44] Kirk wearing something that looks eerily

[12:46] similar to an Imperial officer's uniform

[12:48] from Star Wars? It fits the theme music

[12:51] when they walk out. So, yeah, across the

[12:53] board, people are laughing. They're

[12:54] mocking it. They're saying it was, you

[12:57] know, didn't you're lying. And also,

[12:59] it's just weird. It was weird and it was

[13:01] awkward. Um, and speaking of the lying,

[13:03] which like I said, many people called

[13:05] out right away as that person said,

[13:07] "I've never made that statement on this

[13:08] podcast." Um, of course they instantly

[13:11] then started realizing that they needed

[13:12] to defend it. And of course, they came

[13:14] out with two different excuses. Okay.

[13:16] Um, Blake Nef came out and said, "Well,

[13:18] Candace didn't say it, but she implied

[13:20] it. She implied it in the episode where

[13:23] I said that the police should drag Erica

[13:26] in for questioning. that Charlie would

[13:28] have already been dra he probably would

[13:30] have been arrested until further notice

[13:32] and asked questions if we had found this

[13:34] many holes um in his story. Like of

[13:36] course they should have her phone. They

[13:38] should be asking her questions about

[13:40] various lies because that's just how it

[13:42] works. So that's that was Blake Nef's

[13:44] excuse. Now uh Andrew Kovette's excuse

[13:46] is even more bizarre. Andrew Kovette is

[13:48] going to present an outof context text

[13:51] message which looks like it got passed

[13:53] around at Turning Point USA. I um look,

[13:57] I I gotta give Andrew Kovat like they're

[13:58] never on board with they're all like

[14:00] running in different directions, but he

[14:01] is the king of the narcissistic abuse uh

[14:04] the narcissistic abuse of the public,

[14:05] right? He instantly comes out and starts

[14:07] chastising us and he can never just be

[14:09] like, you know what, I would have I

[14:10] would have instantly said she fumbled

[14:11] over her words. She meant to say that

[14:14] she feels Candace implied it. But of

[14:15] course, that would have been a hard cell

[14:17] because it's very clearly scripted. And

[14:19] look, you have all over the internet

[14:21] people are calling her out for lying.

[14:23] Why would she utter that statement? Why

[14:25] would she say that? I accused her of

[14:26] murdering her husband. And as it was

[14:28] going viral, uh, too many people

[14:30] obviously watched the show. So, they

[14:32] just clocked it immediately. So, Andrew

[14:34] did his thing, right? To prove this was

[14:35] real, he presented a screenshot of a

[14:38] text message joke, a joke definitively

[14:41] sent by me. And I will say right now,

[14:42] Andrew Kovette, you have my full

[14:45] permission to release the entire

[14:47] conversation because how dare you remove

[14:49] this joke from its context. Okay? And

[14:51] it's a message that has never been

[14:52] revealed to the public. I stand by it.

[14:54] Um, I'm assuming employees passed this

[14:57] around. It now kind of explains why so

[14:58] many people got fired. I think I'm I'm

[15:01] grasping some understanding of that. And

[15:03] he presented it as an authentic exchange

[15:05] despite the cry emojis. I was being

[15:07] asked what questions I planned to ask

[15:11] Erica when we met up at the end of

[15:13] December. So, you recall at this time,

[15:15] this was during the week where Erica was

[15:17] going viral uh for her interview with

[15:20] Barry Weiss for a number of very funny

[15:22] reasons. and they were pushing real hard

[15:24] in the press to assert that asking Erica

[15:27] any questions was despicable off record

[15:30] and it equated to um accusing her of

[15:34] murdering her own husband. Okay, so I

[15:36] sent this as a joke, an obvious joke,

[15:38] which they know is a joke because when I

[15:40] met up with Erica, I never asked this

[15:41] question and I was being funny and I

[15:43] think I still think it's funny actually.

[15:44] I said this in response. I said, and

[15:46] that's on uh this is the tweet. Uh the

[15:49] person is asking

[15:52] uh

[15:55] what are you going to ask her? At the

[15:56] bottom here, you can see I said I'm

[15:58] asking everything. First question, why

[16:00] did you murder your husband? I'm cry

[16:03] emoji. Cry emoji. And again, the context

[16:05] of this was us making fun of Barry Weiss

[16:08] and Ben Shapiro and the syndicate of

[16:10] people that had come out and said that

[16:11] asking any questions about Erica Kirk at

[16:13] all was akin to just saying exactly that

[16:16] you murdered your own husband. This was

[16:18] never released to the public. It's a

[16:19] private conversation. So to pretend that

[16:21] that is what Erica was responding to

[16:23] today. How disingenuous can you be,

[16:26] Andrew? Like it's like I you you have to

[16:28] get tired of it at some point. You just

[16:29] got to get tired of it. Again, I will

[16:31] assert publicly, you have my full

[16:33] permission. Go Max, release the entire

[16:36] chain. I have nothing to hide when I

[16:38] said and I asserted several times. There

[16:41] is not a single thing that he can point

[16:43] to that I said on this show that was

[16:45] leaked to me by Aubrey Lech like from

[16:47] December 15th. Okay. Post getting fired.

[16:50] Obviously, she spoke out and I've had

[16:51] many conversations with her, but nothing

[16:54] was leaked to me about their uh that I

[16:56] presented on this show about anything

[16:57] that was going on internal. So

[16:59] pretending that this joke that went

[17:01] around of I'm the first thing I'm gonna

[17:02] ask her is why did you murder your

[17:04] husband? Like why are you gay is a

[17:06] little over the top? Release it. Release

[17:08] it all. Let the public judge I have

[17:10] nothing to hide. And in this

[17:11] investigation when I went into that room

[17:13] I genuinely I believed that you know

[17:15] Erica was being a little weird. But I

[17:16] thought that I was going to get straight

[17:17] answers and then she lied to my face.

[17:19] And from that point on when I clocked

[17:20] her on those lies and the public kept

[17:22] repeatedly clocking her on lies and

[17:24] seeing your reaction to it like it is

[17:25] right now I grew increasingly suspicious

[17:27] of Erica. I remain uh suspicious of

[17:29] Erica. I I I think that is any person

[17:32] who is being honest. Uh why don't you

[17:35] respond to what I'm actually saying? I

[17:38] am saying that donors are telling us

[17:40] that that was an AI video or an AI audio

[17:44] that you presented of Charlie Kirk.

[17:45] Wouldn't that be a great time to clear

[17:47] that up? If you're gonna sit there and

[17:48] you're gonna point the finger at Candace

[17:50] Owens, I would have said, and it is

[17:52] egregious that Candace Owens is implying

[17:55] that we would make this up, that Charlie

[17:57] didn't want me to take take over. And

[17:59] then you slam dunk show the video of

[18:01] Charlie Kirk saying in Aspen that he

[18:04] wanted you to be the CEO. I have made a

[18:06] lot of claims about you lying. And I

[18:09] stand by the claims that I have made on

[18:12] this show. Okay? I stand by the claims I

[18:15] have made. Like I said, I spoke to

[18:17] multiple donors that were at that event.

[18:19] It is strange that you will not release

[18:21] that video. It is strange that you are

[18:22] now pivoting to a private text message

[18:24] thread to assert that I said you

[18:28] murdered your husband. What does that

[18:29] mean? Did you shoot your husband? No,

[18:31] I'm not accusing you of shooting your

[18:32] husband. What I am assuming that I have

[18:35] been open about on the show is that it

[18:38] reeks of dishonesty. You and that people

[18:41] told you this. There's something about

[18:43] your general nature that comes across as

[18:45] very dishonest. You don't seem to be

[18:47] interested in the very many holes. I

[18:49] wouldn't be able to stomach sitting or

[18:51] standing next to Cash Patel. And yet you

[18:54] do. You're sitting here at a White House

[18:55] correspondence center. Why don't you ask

[18:57] him to give the defense what they need

[19:00] if you want a speedy trial victim? Oh,

[19:03] no. I'm just there to, you know, for a

[19:05] social experiment. Well, you're standing

[19:07] next to the FBI director that's holding

[19:09] up your case.

[19:11] I wouldn't be able to stomach looking at

[19:14] uh Cash Patel and you can. I'm sorry

[19:16] that we're all noticing these sorts of

[19:18] things and keeping track of the very

[19:21] many lies that you and Turning Point

[19:23] people have told. Biggest of all, which

[19:24] no one wants to address while they're

[19:26] putting on this widow grift is the lie

[19:29] that you told about the surgeon going

[19:30] rogue. Erica, how about responding to

[19:32] that? The surgeon went rogue. Andrew

[19:36] Kovette went rogue. I wasn't a part of

[19:38] the conversation. You lied about that,

[19:40] Erica. That's a big lie. That's not a

[19:42] small lie. Okay? I'm not coming after

[19:44] you like the internet was in early days

[19:47] for wearing hot pants uh with uh JD

[19:49] Vance. I don't care about that. That's

[19:51] not relevant to me. How you style your

[19:52] hair, how you want to do your makeup,

[19:54] how much eyeliner you want to put on,

[19:55] that feels petty to me. But you lying

[20:00] allegedly according to donors that were

[20:02] present about Charlie saying, "I want

[20:05] you to take over if I get killed."

[20:09] Yeah, that matters. you lying about the

[20:11] surgeon and beginning the entire story

[20:13] about a Superman neck, but actually you

[20:15] were on the phone, but you lied to my

[20:16] face and you're pretending that I have

[20:18] to take that because you're a widow. No,

[20:22] that doesn't work for us. Okay, that

[20:25] does not work for us. In fact, Baron

[20:26] Coleman uh called this out. the widow

[20:29] grift and trying to tell us that she's

[20:31] allowed to lie to us because her husband

[20:34] died is is so on its face absurd that it

[20:37] should be rejected by all people

[20:39] everywhere. Take a listen to what Baron

[20:42] Coleman had to say on his show.

[20:45] Nowhere in the Bible, nowhere in any

[20:47] religious tradition does it say if

[20:50] you're a widow, you get a free pass to

[20:52] lie to anyone you want to gaslight

[20:54] everybody you meet for everything you've

[20:56] ever done in your entire life that is

[20:58] dog doodoo. You just get overlooked. No

[21:01] one's allowed to bring it up. No one's

[21:03] allowed to talk about it for the rest of

[21:05] your life. Everyone has to fawn all over

[21:07] you and support you because my god,

[21:09] you're a widow. It doesn't exist.

[21:12] I've looked at scripture It's not in

[21:15] there. Erica, Graham, Gary, not in here.

[21:20] Andrew

[21:22] Blake doesn't say it. There's no

[21:27] requirement. I support her as the head

[21:30] of TPUSA. There's no prohibition on me

[21:33] criticizing her for documented

[21:35] falsehoods. None.

[21:39] None.

[21:41] And I'm tired of this gaslight play.

[21:45] >> We're all tired of being gaslit all the

[21:47] time. We are so tired of them moving the

[21:49] goalpost and problematizing us clocking

[21:51] the lies as what is problematic. Like

[21:53] it's it's problematic that you recognize

[21:55] that she is lying. is problematic that

[21:57] she keeps lying to your face and you

[21:58] keep noticing it and she just moves to

[22:02] absurd excuse like, "Oh, well, there was

[22:04] this private text chain

[22:07] where Candace said, Erica, did I

[22:09] actually when I arrived did I say, "Did

[22:10] you kill your husband?" Oh, so it was

[22:11] probably a joke, Erica. It was probably

[22:13] a joke and you should share the full

[22:15] context. Don't retweet as as she's done.

[22:18] Andrew Co. Oh, no. That's the excuse for

[22:20] why I just said that publicly. This

[22:21] private chain that nobody saw, everybody

[22:24] recognizes that as a lie. You guys just

[22:26] keep piling on the lies. And again, you

[22:29] can't get on board with the same

[22:30] messaging. Blake Nef already gave a

[22:32] different excuse. Well, she implied

[22:34] Erica. No, it was this this joke that

[22:36] happened in December. Private joke that

[22:39] happened in December. That's the reason

[22:41] we're saying that with the crying

[22:42] emojis. That's Nobody ever makes a

[22:45] private joke obviously that what she

[22:46] meant was that I killed my husband.

[22:48] Okay, stop being ridiculous.

[22:52] Um, please hire a new PR team. You are

[22:54] not smarter than people in the public.

[22:57] You just aren't actually. Um, and I I

[23:00] that's honestly going to be your only

[23:02] saving grace is to just exercise some

[23:04] humility, man. Just come out. Say, "I am

[23:08] sorry. I canceled my event at the last

[23:09] second to UG team, right? I was

[23:12] embarrassed to come out because there

[23:13] wasn't a lot of people and I'm under a

[23:15] lot of pressure right now." That works.

[23:16] Humanity works. Okay. I did tell a

[23:19] stupid lie about the surgeon. It was a

[23:21] big lie. It was a really dumb lie. I

[23:22] don't know why I said it. You know why I

[23:24] said it? Because I was advised to by a

[23:26] really stupid PR agent. That's probably

[23:27] what happened, right? Just deny that in

[23:29] the face of overwhelming evidence.

[23:32] Respond. Have the courage to respond.

[23:35] Okay? Stop with the Hillary Clinton

[23:37] campaign. If people want to ask Hillary

[23:38] Clinton questions about her past and

[23:40] what she did in Haiti, it's not because

[23:43] she's a woman. If people want to ask

[23:44] Erica Kirk questions about her past,

[23:47] whether or not she made up the AI video

[23:50] or AI audio of Charlie Kirk saying, "I

[23:52] appoint my wife to take over me if

[23:53] anything happens." Answer the questions

[23:56] meaningfully. And if you're going to the

[23:58] White House correspondent, you know, to

[23:59] face people face to face. By golly,

[24:01] Erica, why don't you do that now? Why

[24:04] don't you have a round table with the

[24:05] people that are causing you the most

[24:07] grief? Get Baron Coleman. Do it live so

[24:10] the whole world can see it, right? So,

[24:11] it's not behind closed doors. As I've

[24:13] said thousands of times over, this does

[24:15] not need to be in person. Okay? Don't

[24:17] make unnecessary hurdles. Answer the

[24:20] questions once and for all. Just answer

[24:23] the questions. These these are these are

[24:25] big accusations. Erica, you lied. But I

[24:27] sat down with you and did this. You lied

[24:28] to my face.

[24:30] Doesn't work like that. You don't get to

[24:32] do that. Especially when it's regarding

[24:34] a murder, the murder of your husband.

[24:37] It's a weird thing for a widow to tell

[24:40] lies pertaining to Superman next and to

[24:42] throw it on a Dr. Lee Troder and to

[24:44] claim that you weren't on the phone when

[24:46] you were and you facilitated that entire

[24:49] conversation. That's weird. That's not

[24:51] okay, Erica.

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