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The Intelligence Agencies as America's True Power Structure
Charlie Kirk presents a stark assessment of how America is actually governed, arguing that power resides not with elected officials but with intelligence agencies operating above constitutional authority. In an October 2024 conversation with Justice Smith, Kirk addresses whether the CIA's notorious MK Ultra mind control program ever truly ended.
When asked directly if MK Ultra actually concluded or simply transformed, Kirk responds unequivocally: "No, we have no evidence that it ended." He expands this concern beyond a single program, pointing to Operation Mockingbird as another CIA initiative designed to take over news networks and create "symmetry in their broadcast communications."
According to Kirk, the Central Intelligence Agency remains "actively involved in mind manipulation of people here domestically," an activity he emphasizes is "completely against the CIA charter."
Congress as Peanut Gallery to the Super Government
Kirk paints a picture of American governance that differs dramatically from civics textbook descriptions. He describes Congress as "just kind of like a peanut gallery" while a "super government" exists above it, comprised of three primary entities:
- The Department of Defense (the Pentagon)
- The Central Intelligence Agency (operating independently from Langley)
- The Federal Bureau of Investigation
"They run the country," Kirk states plainly. "The intel agencies run the country. People don't run the country." Even the executive branch, according to this framework, lacks genuine control over national direction.
Trump and JFK: A Pattern of Intelligence Agency Opposition
Kirk draws a direct parallel between Donald Trump and President John F. Kennedy, identifying them as the only two candidates in modern history who genuinely challenged intelligence agency power. "This is why they hate Trump," Kirk explains, "because Trump was the first candidate since JFK to actually want to declare war on the intel agencies and bring the power back to the sovereign."
The comparison takes a darker turn when Kirk notes the fate both men faced: "Both him and Kennedy got shot." This observation connects historical assassination with contemporary political violence, suggesting a pattern of consequences for those who threaten intelligence community control.
Psychological Operations and Public Manipulation
The conversation reflects broader concerns about government psychological operations targeting American citizens. Kirk's perspective suggests these aren't historical artifacts but ongoing programs designed to shape public perception and behavior. His reference to Operation Mockingbird indicates belief that media manipulation remains a tool of intelligence agencies to control narrative and manufacture consensus.
The discussion raises fundamental questions about the nature of American democracy when intelligence agencies operate domestically despite charter restrictions, when elected officials serve as window dressing for unelected power structures, and when those who challenge this arrangement face severe consequences.
Kirk's analysis presents intelligence agencies not as servants of elected government but as the actual power center of American governance, operating with impunity and using psychological manipulation as a standard tool of domestic control.
Video Transcript
[00:00] I should tell you that if Charlie were
[00:01] alive today, they'd be calling him
[00:03] demonic. They'd be calling him
[00:04] possessed. They'd be saying that he was
[00:06] crazy for not trusting the government
[00:09] because he was honest. He had an honest
[00:12] perspective about psychological
[00:14] operations. He noticed them. He knew the
[00:16] government was behind these
[00:17] psychological operations, just like the
[00:20] one they have put in place since Charlie
[00:22] was assassinated. Here is what Charlie
[00:24] had to say back in October of 2024
[00:26] regarding the CIA and MK Ultra. He is
[00:30] speaking with Justice Smith. Take a
[00:32] listen.
[00:32] >> Do you think the MK Ultra project ever
[00:35] actually ended or just went?
[00:36] >> No, we I mean we have no evidence that
[00:38] it ended. And I mean also we have
[00:40] Operation Mockingbird 2 which was
[00:42] another CIA program which was that they
[00:43] were going to take over all the news
[00:44] networks and have symmetry in their
[00:47] broadcast communications. No, the
[00:50] Central Intelligence Agency is actively
[00:52] involved in mind manipulation of people
[00:54] here domestically and that is completely
[00:56] against the CIA charter. You must
[00:58] understand we have Congress and they're
[01:00] just kind of like a peanut gallery. And
[01:01] then we have a super government that
[01:03] exists above Congress of the Department
[01:04] of Defense which is the Pentagon, the
[01:06] Central Intelligence Agency, which is
[01:08] own thing out in Langley, the Federal
[01:09] Bureau of Investigation. They run the
[01:11] country. The intel agencies run the
[01:13] country. People don't run the country.
[01:16] >> The executive branch doesn't run the
[01:17] country. This is why they hate Trump.
[01:19] because Trump was the first candidate
[01:21] since JFK to actually want to declare
[01:24] war on the intel agencies and bring the
[01:26] power back to the sovereign and
[01:30] both him and uh Kennedy got shot.
[01:33] >> Yes. Well, I I
[01:37] I am just in in many ways I think it
[01:40] would just pain Charlie to see
[01:41] everything that's happened since he
[01:43] passed. I think it would just pain him
[01:44] to see what Trump has become. He's
[01:45] become a deep state obviously and never
[01:47] have I ever seen a more aggressive
[01:49] psychological operation or a more
[01:51] obvious operation for that matter than
[01:55] everything that the intel agencies have
[01:58] been trying to impart upon the public
[02:00] since Charlie Kirk was assassinated.
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