Charlie Kirk and Tyler Bowyer Break Down How Turning Point Action Delivered Arizona by 200,000 Votes

[00:00] all right with us is the commanding

[00:02] officer COO of Turning Point action

[00:05] Tyler Boer Tyler good to see you Tyler

[00:09] let's go through Arizona first let's

[00:11] brag on the verifiable success of what

[00:14] Turning Point action was able to do

[00:16] Arizona the best performing swing state

[00:19] Arizona we were able to uh win by nearly

[00:22] five and a half points it's actually

[00:24] right near 5.6 right 5.7 much better

[00:27] performance than even in 2016 When

[00:30] Donald Trump won what was turning point

[00:32] action able to do in the great state of

[00:34] Arizona no you know Charlie and it's a

[00:36] huge credit to our entire team it's

[00:39] first off good to see you uh thanks for

[00:41] all the hard work that you're doing

[00:43] right now uh many people maybe people

[00:46] don't know it or appreciate it enough

[00:48] but what Charlie's doing right now is is

[00:50] is really tough work uh no our team had

[00:54] really gone in and we looked at this and

[00:56] we sat down Charlie and I sat down uh

[00:59] you know really looking at the

[01:00] postmortem of 2020 and then watching in

[01:03] horror as basically we just waited to

[01:07] see the result of what the Republican

[01:10] establishment the national apparatus

[01:13] said they were going to do to help fix

[01:14] Arizona and the you know as we say so

[01:17] many times the calvary didn't come and

[01:19] so we knew very rapidly leading into

[01:21] 2022 we had to do something uh massive

[01:25] uh in the state because Arizona as we'

[01:28] repeated on this show many many many

[01:30] times is kind of like the Democrats

[01:32] Michigan if you lose Arizona your

[01:35] statistical chance of winning the

[01:37] presidency goes way down way way down uh

[01:40] to the tune of like over 70% of a of a

[01:43] likelihood based off of the current map

[01:46] so uh having our team organized we had

[01:49] to build this thing fast we basically

[01:51] replicated what they've built in

[01:53] Michigan uh so similar construct in

[01:56] Michigan what the Democrats have done

[01:58] there we built that in basically 18

[02:01] months uh and they've spent the better

[02:04] part of probably 18 years building that

[02:06] there so we are we are really proud of

[02:09] the team that we have uh we spread our

[02:12] people across the state evenly and and

[02:15] very specifically to areas that needed

[02:17] the most assistance and how we went

[02:20] about our work was really simple and

[02:22] we're going to talk about this a whole

[02:23] lot in the in the coming next two and

[02:25] four years as we prepare to enter into

[02:28] other states and to band in other states

[02:31] and looking at how do you properly Place

[02:35] uh enough people in order to chase

[02:36] enough ballots and we did that through

[02:38] our super chase model so so so so H how

[02:41] many ballots did we how many disengaged

[02:43] low propensity voters did we Chase in

[02:46] Arizona so we know we I mean we had a

[02:49] target audience in Arizona so to put

[02:51] this into perspective uh when all is

[02:54] said and done Arizona is going to be

[02:56] again at about 3 and A5 million just a

[02:58] little bit more than three and half

[03:00] million voters uh and so that was the

[03:02] Target that we looked at and we took a

[03:05] universe of about just shy of 400,000

[03:08] people uh that we knew we could contact

[03:11] which I mean quick math that's over 10%

[03:14] of the voters so you're looking at a

[03:17] base of at least 10% of the voters

[03:19] plucking out the people who are least

[03:20] likely to vote when you do that you know

[03:24] the method and methodology that again

[03:26] the left uses and now what we are using

[03:29] is put enough bodies on the ground to

[03:31] chase half of those people that's 5%

[03:35] well uh if if you can do better than

[03:37] that you know you're going to be able to

[03:39] get your candidates across the Finish

[03:40] Line in in a bigger number uh if you

[03:43] don't hit that number and the polls

[03:45] again are within those margins uh which

[03:48] all the swing states are we know are

[03:50] within those have been two three four

[03:52] five points uh you could lose you could

[03:54] lose any state and we look at Wisconsin

[03:57] for example Charlie uh you know that's

[04:00] one of those states that Trump has won

[04:02] and lost uh by very slim margins that

[04:05] including this year uh we did that work

[04:08] and performed that same work in

[04:09] Wisconsin and he barely won right we've

[04:12] barely pulled

[04:13] out a w there and so this work really

[04:16] matters a lot and and it really comes

[04:19] down to just knowing the numbers you got

[04:21] to lay out how many votes are there in

[04:22] total how many are you expecting what

[04:25] kind of percentage are you looking at if

[04:26] you look at public polling which not all

[04:28] of it's good we know that right we saw

[04:30] in Iowa we can't trust every poll but

[04:33] you know you can take a a smattering of

[04:35] those polls identify you know what's

[04:38] winnable and then based off of the

[04:39] winnability of a state determine can we

[04:42] put enough bodies on the ground to chase

[04:44] enough votes to make a difference and

[04:45] that's what we did in Arizona that's

[04:47] what we did in Wisconsin that's what we

[04:48] did in Michigan so it was the number in

[04:50] Arizona was upwards of 200,000 is that

[04:53] fair to

[04:54] say yeah so uh in Arizona we ultimately

[04:57] chased Charlie uh we we will have the

[04:59] final final numbers confirmed by actual

[05:01] voter data which they have not yet

[05:03] released uh in Maricopa Maricopa County

[05:06] so we know Maricopa County counts slow

[05:08] they also believe it or not release

[05:09] voter data very slow um and so they that

[05:13] those numbers will be finalized but what

[05:15] we have confirm between what we know and

[05:17] the people that we've chased that we've

[05:19] confirmed uh we well exceeded 200,000

[05:22] voters which is above our projections

[05:25] above what our goals were pretty

[05:28] significantly uh also and I'm looking at

[05:30] the numbers here that is more than the

[05:33] margin of which Donald Trump won the

[05:35] State of Arizona by Donald Trump won the

[05:37] State of Arizona uh by

[05:42] about 86,000 votes if my math is right

[05:46] is 186,000 votes which by the way is a

[05:49] Triumph but you count those 200,000

[05:52] people without that work Tyler Arizona

[05:55] would have been a nailbiter if not a

[05:56] comma Harris Victory is that fair to say

[05:59] oh it's it's very fair to say Charlie I

[06:01] mean we ended up with uh 3 right now

[06:05] before I mean we're still counting votes

[06:07] in Arizona so uh you know I think we're

[06:10] finally hit the 99 percentile here now

[06:13] so uh there there'll still be some

[06:15] trickling in but we're we're looking

[06:17] like in the presidential race there was

[06:19] over 3.3 million votes cast uh that's a

[06:22] little bit below what happened uh last

[06:25] election in 2020 uh but that's a pretty

[06:28] pretty iable amount of people but yeah I

[06:32] mean right now where we're sitting

[06:34] Donald Trump wins this election by less

[06:37] than 200,000 votes we can attest to uh

[06:42] the people that turned in ballots that

[06:43] we had pretty significant contact with

[06:45] and we're not talking you know going and

[06:47] hanging a door hanger on their door not

[06:49] sending a text message those are those

[06:51] are nice things that that uh you need

[06:54] and you need other groups to do uh as

[06:57] vote reminders we were building relation

[06:59] relationships having five 6 Seven 8 n

[07:03] meaningful relational contacts with

[07:05] these people and that's the difference

[07:07] bringing them cookies offering to help

[07:09] bringing their groceries seeing them at

[07:11] the park waving them at at the mailbox

[07:13] being from their neighborhood that is

[07:15] what moves votes that is how you get

[07:18] people to turn out who are not like

[07:19] likely to turn out that

[07:22] effectivity uh through our Pro our

[07:24] process was able to get Donald Trump

[07:27] across the finish line and not just

[07:28] Arizona but we believe in in Wisconsin

[07:31] as well Tyler tell us the story of what

[07:32] happened in Wisconsin well you know and

[07:35] this is one thing I actually wanted to

[07:37] point out that over the break I had our

[07:39] team just pull the quick numbers because

[07:42] I'm kind of behind a few days here just

[07:43] looking at the updates from where the

[07:45] vote totals are ending up there's

[07:47] something kind of very interesting

[07:49] that's happened this last election cycle

[07:50] and we knew this going in Arizona and

[07:52] Wisconsin we knew we going to have very

[07:54] similar turnout numbers uh Arizona

[07:57] Wisconsin only had a difference of about

[07:59] 30,000 votes in total turnout which

[08:03] that's where it stands as of today and

[08:05] again Arizona still County some votes

[08:07] really crazy and I misspoke earlier I

[08:10] said that last time was a little bit

[08:11] bigger we've actually now eclipsed last

[08:13] time with this time in Arizona and the

[08:16] only difference the the margin of vote

[08:18] difference between 2020 and

[08:21] 2024 is now only about 5,000 votes which

[08:25] is mind-blowing because it was looking

[08:28] like along the past way here that there

[08:30] were going to be less turnout uh

[08:32] Wisconsin kind of the same thing uh

[08:35] Wisconsin actually has a uh a little bit

[08:38] of a a higher turnout than they had in

[08:41] 2020 as well which was totally

[08:44] unexpected but that does actually tell a

[08:46] story about how these states the Sun

[08:48] Belt and even the Rust Belt have gotten

[08:51] redder and become redder and that was

[08:54] not something that was predicted by a

[08:55] lot of pundits heading into this

[08:57] election the the the general General

[08:59] consensus Charlie if you remember was

[09:02] going into you know election day the Sun

[09:05] Belt looks like it's pretty red but the

[09:07] rust Bel looks like K is going to take

[09:09] all three states or it looks like it's

[09:11] going to be more blue than it was last

[09:14] time uh in Michigan even in some other

[09:17] places and that didn't happen at all um

[09:19] in fact if you look at there's been some

[09:21] diagrams that showcase the changes that

[09:24] have happened over the last two election

[09:26] Cycles in these individual counties and

[09:28] I know we've covered it a little bit on

[09:29] your program is it is getting redder and

[09:33] deep red U so it wasn't you know Donald

[09:36] Trump just flipping counties it was

[09:38] counties going from light red to deep

[09:40] red and that is a phenomenon that is

[09:43] hard to reverse for the Democrat Party

[09:46] because now you have what we call

[09:47] habitual voters now becoming much more

[09:51] used to and okay with voting for a

[09:53] Republican president and a lot of

[09:56] pundits again will notice Trends in

[09:58] presidential victories that some states

[10:01] are just very solid Republican

[10:03] Presidential uh States while you know

[10:06] they may vote for Democrat Governors or

[10:09] democrat Senators uh this is very bad

[10:11] for the Democrats because what seemingly

[10:14] is happening and if the Republican Party

[10:16] can seize upon this is create uh

[10:19] habitual Republican voting States for

[10:22] president and that would make our life a

[10:24] lot easier if we could accomplish that

[10:26] in places like Arizona and Nevada for

[10:28] example and the Sun Belt and then

[10:30] obviously return things back to normal

[10:33] in in the south in Georgia and North

[10:36] Carolina so but really quick here uh in

[10:39] Wisconsin we we definitely chased more

[10:42] than 30,000 low propensity ballots is

[10:44] that right yeah uh in fact uh it was it

[10:48] was pretty widely covered uh we talked

[10:50] about it here on your show show we

[10:52] partnered with Elon musk's America pack

[10:55] uh because there was out of all the

[10:58] states we looked around we were one of

[11:00] the only people to put a full-time

[11:02] office in the most important part of

[11:04] Wisconsin which is wakasa county and if

[11:06] you know the Milwaukee wow area they

[11:09] call it the wow area because of the

[11:10] Three Counties that immediately surround

[11:12] Milwaukee and that's wakasa uh

[11:15] Washington County and oaki County those

[11:18] three counties are your red counties

[11:20] those are your your offset to the deep

[11:23] blue territory in Milwaukee and

[11:26] Milwaukee had something happen in it

[11:28] that hasn't really happened recently

[11:29] which is that there was significantly

[11:31] lower voter turnout uh early there uh

[11:35] which which definitely increased the

[11:37] Republican margins in the in the in the

[11:40] deeper blue areas and the outside

[11:43] counties were able to maintain their

[11:44] margins pretty pretty steadily from last

[11:47] election which gave uh Donald Trump a

[11:50] significant Edge in the wow area and so

[11:53] when you look at this going back to your

[11:54] question was you know how many Bots did

[11:56] we chase that were low propensity uh we

[11:59] had in addition to helping elon's group

[12:02] and working with together in hand inand

[12:04] with them to get out the vote uh we also

[12:06] had over 60,000 and we're still waiting

[12:09] on voter data as well there we're hoping

[12:11] that it's going to end up being more

[12:13] 60,000 voters who are less likely voters

[12:15] who we are able to get turned

[12:17] out okay uh let's get Blake in on the

[12:19] conversation here uh Blake so what right

[12:23] now is the tone or the tenor of the

[12:26] Democrat Party we annihilated them it

[12:29] was a landslide we won the popular vote

[12:32] we we demolished on the electoral vote

[12:34] they were repudiated how are things

[12:36] going in Democrat world right now well I

[12:39] think uh I have I have good news and

[12:42] great news uh the good news is is that

[12:45] uh Democrats in the middle are trying

[12:47] are telling the members of their party

[12:49] guys we've gone too far the party got

[12:52] too weird it's caused all these problems

[12:54] for us and the great news is the farle

[12:58] is going

[13:00] that's not true and then they're

[13:02] freaking out and they're throwing people

[13:03] overboard and so this is still unfolding

[13:06] all over the place you definitely have a

[13:08] lot of people who say we lost because we

[13:12] weren't weird enough it's like a sick

[13:14] twisted version of you might remember

[13:15] like TW 2012 2010 you'd have you know

[13:19] some so and so would lose and then they

[13:20] go like they lost because they weren't

[13:22] conservative enough and it turned out it

[13:23] was kind of true we needed a different

[13:25] version of conservatism basically but

[13:27] for the left they're going no we we

[13:29] aren't weird enough we we need more of

[13:31] like the weirdest people out there and I

[13:34] think it's causing a lot of problems for

[13:36] their party and it's going to be really

[13:37] interesting to see how the DNC election

[13:40] goes yeah so so Tyler do you believe

[13:44] that they're going to moderate

[13:45] themselves what is the path forward I

[13:47] think the more radical Progressive

[13:50] elements are actually going to come out

[13:52] and Roar I I think that they're going to

[13:53] lean further into the leftwing elements

[13:55] to their base yeah it's funny uh a guy

[13:58] that abs abolutely hates our guts that

[14:00] I've been just like provoking uh the a

[14:03] central at that's the Arizona Republic

[14:05] here locally uh who's an opinion

[14:07] colonist EJ Montini this was his opinion

[14:10] today Governor Katie Hobbs tries

[14:13] masquerading as Kirsten Cinema it's a

[14:15] bad idea and here's

[14:17] why and this is what's happening across

[14:20] the country you're exactly right there

[14:23] the left-wingers and this the absolutely

[14:25] radical Progressive side of the party is

[14:29] trying to tell everybody no no no no

[14:34] don't be like Joe Mansion or kir Cinema

[14:36] you'll be dead and the reality is is

[14:39] that part of the reason why those guys

[14:41] are gone is because of the progressive

[14:44] wing of the entire party so we're going

[14:46] to see a lot more of this that's

[14:48] happening uh you know for us it's it's

[14:50] really positive because I mean look

[14:52] we're walking into a congress where you

[14:56] know the leftwing is making our side

[14:59] that people consider more right-wing our

[15:01] freedom caucus look very common sense

[15:04] and the freedom caucus members outnumber

[15:07] the the separation between Democrats and

[15:09] Republicans so we're going to have

[15:10] another I think fairly

[15:12] conservative uh house session here

[15:16] that's coming up and that is nothing

[15:18] could be more exciting than that when

[15:19] you couple that together with with

[15:21] Donald Trump being in the president

[15:23] that's why everybody's so focused on our

[15:25] US Senate right now our Senators have to

[15:27] step up they have to do a good job they

[15:30] have to follow suit they have to nail

[15:31] these guys focus on attacking the left

[15:34] and not attacking Donald Trump and this

[15:37] is where they have a real you know fork

[15:39] in the road between the confirmations

[15:41] with Donald Trump and what we know is

[15:43] the radical left that's losing big time

[15:45] across the

[15:46] country so so let me ask Blake if you

[15:49] were trying to give advice on how to get

[15:51] these cabinet officials selected and

[15:53] confir not selected but confirmed to the

[15:55] Trump team how do you think that should

[15:57] be done from a strategic stand

[15:59] point it's a good question I think one

[16:02] of the biggest advantages we have is the

[16:04] fact that so Democrats are still

[16:06] fighting amongst themselves and that

[16:07] helps it you know in people's minds we

[16:11] already had you know on the election

[16:13] night we won the house we won the Senate

[16:15] Trump won the popular vote uh he won

[16:19] even more than he did in 2016 you have

[16:21] all these factors together to kind of

[16:23] say Trump won he gets you know the

[16:26] chance to do what he wants and and also

[16:30] I think it just helps that he was he

[16:32] lost power but now he came back he's got

[16:35] a second term and if you couple that

[16:38] with Democrats being in disarray and as

[16:40] a result there's not nearly as much of a

[16:42] you resistance coming out into existence

[16:45] yet you just sort of create this it's

[16:47] like the psychological environment

[16:49] matters a lot and the psychological

[16:50] environment is Trump won the people who

[16:53] are against Trump are like freaking out

[16:55] and they're like oh we need to adapt our

[16:56] strategy we might need to adapt our in

[16:59] our entire worldview about politics all

[17:02] of that helps set up a situation where

[17:04] you can't be the Republican who steps in

[17:07] and says actually we're going to

[17:08] sabotage your cabinet and cause it to

[17:10] all be a mess a lot of these guys I

[17:13] think you observed it uh yesterday

[17:15] Charlie that the people who speak about

[17:18] oh you know they're wey about this they

[17:20] don't like to say it publicly they don't

[17:21] want to be the GU sub that they want to

[17:23] try to sabotage anything they can before

[17:25] there's a vote because you can't really

[17:27] be the guy who votes against it so I

[17:29] think one of the strongest things Trump

[17:30] is doing is Trump has been saying these

[17:32] are my picks I'm not going to reconsider

[17:34] them he said that about Gates just the

[17:36] other day too he's saying we're going to

[17:38] make you vote on it up or down I think a

[17:40] lot of them are going to knuckle under a

[17:41] lot of these people are psychologically

[17:44] a bit weak that's why they get brow

[17:45] beaten by the left so easily but right

[17:47] now the left is too disorganized to brow

[17:49] beat anyone so we can brow beat them to

[17:52] stay on side so I think aggressive

[17:55] posture keep making the picks you want

[17:58] tell them they're good going to have to

[17:59] vote on them we're going to make you

[18:01] have to publicly vote up or down on

[18:02] every single one of these if we don't do

[18:04] the recess appointment approach of

[18:05] course and if you do that I think a lot

[18:08] of these guys are just going to say okay

[18:10] you get your shot because I think

[18:13] they'll I think they'll capitulate

[18:16] basically yeah so so Tyler what is your

[18:19] thoughts on this is it time to

[18:21] potentially entertain uh primaries of

[18:23] red state senators that don't represent

[18:25] their voters oh man Charlie this is

[18:27] going to be a a really fun year here

[18:29] because uh it's going to you know who's

[18:31] going to do most of the work for us is

[18:34] the Senators themselves so it's not

[18:37] going to take a ton of convincing uh to

[18:40] get conservatives out of bed uh and

[18:43] actually I think it's very helpful ahead

[18:44] of the midterms quite quite frankly to

[18:48] have an energized base uh that are

[18:51] energized about something and if we have

[18:53] some people and I think it's going to be

[18:55] very few so I I totally agree with Blake

[18:57] I think it's you're going to have a

[18:59] situation where you have a lot of people

[19:00] who fold because they have a they talk

[19:02] big talk in the cafeteria at the capital

[19:05] uh but once they're out on the floor all

[19:08] of a sudden you know we've seen some of

[19:11] this we've seen some people completely

[19:13] turn 100% around and I I wish we had

[19:16] time to kind of go through some fond

[19:17] memories of people talking you know

[19:20] tough talk against Trump and then

[19:22] turning around and becoming you know the

[19:24] biggest Trump fans because they got

[19:26] smacked across the face a few times by

[19:28] the by the grass Grass Roots but the

[19:30] Grassroots is going to serve up a a hot

[19:32] plate of get the heck out of here uh to

[19:36] some of our Senators in some of our

[19:37] deepest red States and I don't know if

[19:40] we want to go into that or if we want to

[19:41] start you know lobbying those bombs here

[19:44] yet but there's some there's some very

[19:46] clear places that are deep red deep deep

[19:49] red territory where president Trump won

[19:52] by not just double digits but like you

[19:55] know a lot a wide wide margin like 20 30

[19:58] points where some of these people are

[20:00] having trouble realizing you know who's

[20:02] in charge of the party right now and

[20:05] it's very clearly Donald Trump why why

[20:07] is that why is that some of the the

[20:09] least conservative people are from the

[20:11] red Estates Tyler how does that Happ

[20:13] they're not just the least conservative

[20:14] people Charlie they're some of the least

[20:16] popular people and that's what's so

[20:18] mind-blowing is that you look at at

[20:22] literally you can look at uh surveys and

[20:25] polls on people nobody likes these

[20:27] people quite literally no one can pick

[20:29] them off the street um I won't say again

[20:32] I've told the story kind of embarrassing

[20:33] of this person whoever this person was

[20:36] but a Statewide elected official walked

[20:39] right through their state fair nobody

[20:41] even recognized who that person was

[20:43] these people are you cannot pick them up

[20:45] off the street nobody knows who they are

[20:47] unless they're standing on on C-Span and

[20:50] you know I think that's part of the uh

[20:54] the psychological you know Warfare that

[20:56] exists behind the scenes you talk about

[20:58] with the psychology of all this is these

[21:00] are some of these people you know live

[21:02] and die by their title and by the love

[21:05] that they receive from lobbyists and

[21:07] that's pretty much it because they get

[21:09] very little love from the public the

[21:11] public doesn't like them um you know the

[21:13] party in a lot of cases doesn't like

[21:15] them you know look at you know Corin and

[21:17] Texas getting booed off stage because of

[21:19] red flag laws uh and other places like

[21:22] that where it's happening all the time

[21:23] and so they've kind of just pivoted to

[21:25] their own little corner and what happens

[21:28] is that you have the nrsc and other

[21:30] places that have a policy of Defending

[21:32] incumbents that spend money that keep

[21:35] these people on place because literally

[21:37] no one knows who they are so people just

[21:38] go oh I guess I'll just vote for the guy

[21:40] that has a r next to his name the the

[21:42] status of the Grassroots the Grassroots

[21:44] is on fire talk about the need to

[21:46] activate the Grassroots and we're going

[21:47] to be doing something at Turning Point

[21:48] action to give Trump his cabinet kind of

[21:51] tease it a little bit Tyler we have some

[21:53] big announcements coming about this yeah

[21:55] we've got some huge announcements the

[21:56] Grassroots is the most critical part to

[21:58] the movement because that is who that's

[22:01] been the engine for the Trump uh era

[22:05] since 2016 we saw I think what's the

[22:07] culmination of the Tea Party Movement

[22:10] the Constitutional conservatives coming

[22:12] together now what we call America First

[22:14] Patriots all coming together and saying

[22:16] you know there's nothing that's going to

[22:17] be able to get in our way and uh you

[22:20] know that certainly applies to

[22:21] presidential candidates we saw the

[22:23] slaughtering that happened during the uh

[22:26] during the presidential primary people

[22:27] thought oh this is was going to be a

[22:28] competitive thing with Donald Trump and

[22:30] you know people didn't really understand

[22:32] what they were up against you know

[22:33] that's because the people are so far

[22:36] behind our our new uh 47th president uh

[22:40] our our immediately past best president

[22:43] that we've had and that is going not

[22:46] that's not going to go well for senators

[22:48] who get in the way and so uh you know

[22:50] our campaign that we're going to be

[22:52] rolling out very quickly here and a huge

[22:55] thanks to Charlie who's been uh the the

[22:58] brain child behind much of it which is

[23:00] going to be give Trump his cabinet and

[23:02] we're going to be letting people know

[23:03] that there's a mandate there's not just

[23:04] a mandate uh for the president to uh you

[23:09] know just be the guy that's just sitting

[23:11] in the chair behind the Resolute desk

[23:13] it's going to be actually you know

[23:15] governing and being the executive of

[23:17] this country and we can't do that if we

[23:19] don't give him his people and so the

[23:21] senators are going to learn a a harsh

[23:23] lesson a reality and they're going to

[23:25] come face to face with that mandate

[23:28] themselves if they don't get themselves

[23:30] out of the

[23:32] way and and I can't imagine what their

[23:36] argument is going to be Tyler if they

[23:37] voted for Merrick Garland and they won't

[23:40] vote for Matt Gates I I mean this this

[23:42] will send the this will send the

[23:44] Grassroots on

[23:46] fire yeah I mean Charlie it just reminds

[23:49] me of Jeff Flake you know and we'll tell

[23:51] the story about Jeff Flake here over and

[23:53] over again here in Arizona uh you know

[23:56] when he was in office he became best

[23:58] buddies with Barack Obama would shoot

[24:00] hoops with him and he went out and just

[24:03] decided he would approve all of uh

[24:06] Barack Obama's cabinet appointments and

[24:10] a lot of people start scratching their

[24:11] heads they go hey you know Senator you

[24:12] were one of the most conservative

[24:13] members of Congress what the heck are

[24:14] you doing playing basketball with Barack

[24:16] Obama and approving all these Senate

[24:18] appointments and the guy turned he was

[24:21] doing all these things and then when

[24:22] Trump got in if we remember correctly he

[24:25] was one of those voices that stood in

[24:27] the way and said you know what I'm not

[24:29] going to vote for any of President

[24:31] Trump's people and people said hey if

[24:33] you were going to vote for you know some

[24:36] of these awful awful you know Obama

[24:39] appointees why won't you vote for you

[24:41] know really some real Normy Trump

[24:45] cabinet

[24:46] appointments and uh remember if you

[24:48] remember he was also one of the people

[24:49] that stood in the way for the Supreme

[24:51] Court issues and everything else before

[24:53] he ultimately chose not to run for

[24:56] re-election that's that's what the

[24:57] outcome was was for Jeff Flake Senator

[24:59] flake who is now a you know a a card

[25:03] carrying Democrat who's going out

[25:05] working for Joe Biden it's it's ruined

[25:07] his career completely was one of those

[25:09] people that that told himself that he

[25:11] was so you know upset with the Trump

[25:14] getting into office and he couldn't you

[25:16] know he was beside himself he couldn't

[25:18] believe that Mitt Romney could lose and

[25:19] Trump could win you know stood there and

[25:22] opposed all these these cabinet

[25:24] appointments and judicial appointments

[25:27] that's what's going to happen to all

[25:28] these other Senators they're going to

[25:29] get Jeff flaked is what's going to

[25:31] happen to

[25:32] them Tyler Boer uh very good let's go to

[25:36] TP action.com to follow up more TP

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