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Subscribe on YouTubeCharlie Kirk Breaks Down Israel's Massive Strike on Iran and What It Means for America
Charlie Kirk provides detailed analysis of Israel's extensive military operation against Iran, including strikes on over 100 targets and the elimination of top Iranian military leadership. Broadcasting live as events unfolded, Kirk examines the precision of Israeli operations, the decapitation of Iran's Revolutionary Guard leadership, and the destruction of nuclear facilities. He addresses concerns from the MAGA base about potential U.S. involvement, drawing parallels to past Middle East conflicts. Kirk also speaks with Josh Hammer, who is reporting from Israel during the strikes, offering ground-level perspective on the operation and its implications for both Israeli and American security.
The Israeli Strike Operation Unfolds
Israel launched strikes against over 100 targets across Iran in what has become one of the most extensive military operations in recent Middle Eastern history. The bombing campaign, which continued as events unfolded, represented a massive decapitation strike against Iran's entire military infrastructure. Israel successfully eliminated key Iranian military leadership, including the chief of staff and the commander of Iran's Revolutionary Guard, Hassan Hussein Salami. These strikes hit multiple critical locations including the capital Tehran, Natanz where Iran enriches uranium, Tabriz near a nuclear research center, and underground facilities storing ballistic missiles near the Iraqi border.
What made this operation particularly remarkable was Israel's ability to execute it with apparent complete air superiority. Iran's air defenses offered no resistance to Israeli air strikes, and no Israeli aircraft were reported shot down during the operation. Israel had engaged in what appeared to be a sophisticated deception campaign, with Netanyahu publicly discussing attending weddings and potential diplomatic talks, causing Iran to lower its guard. Israeli intelligence services, particularly Mossad, demonstrated extraordinary capabilities by infiltrating the highest levels of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard and even smuggling explosives directly into Iran in advance of the strikes.
Precision Warfare and Civilian Considerations
One of the most striking aspects of the Israeli operation was the precision demonstrated in residential areas. Images showed high-rise buildings where missiles struck specific floors without destroying entire structures. In one notable example, Israeli forces targeted what appeared to be the eighth floor of a residential building while leaving neighboring floors largely intact. This level of precision contradicts common narratives about indiscriminate strikes and demonstrates Israel's apparent effort to minimize civilian casualties while achieving military objectives.
The strategy also reflected Israel's understanding that many ordinary Iranians oppose the current regime. By conducting precision strikes against military and government targets while attempting to minimize broader civilian impact, Israel appeared to be fighting what they considered a war of liberation rather than attempting to turn the Iranian population against them. The operation targeted nuclear scientists and military infrastructure while demonstrating restraint that could have resulted in far greater destruction.
America First Concerns and Historical Context
A critical perspective emerged regarding American involvement in Middle Eastern conflicts. The current generation of the MAGA base has never witnessed a clear, declarative American military victory. The last unambiguous American win was arguably the Gulf War, and even that led to the Second Iraq War. Before that, one must look back to World War II. This historical context shapes current skepticism about military intervention.
The initial phases of both the Afghanistan and Iraq wars appeared remarkably successful, with the shock and awe campaign against Iraq creating impressions of easy victory. However, the Middle East has consistently proven more complicated than initial military successes suggest. Wars in this region are not profitable endeavors, and even from a pro-Israel perspective, prolonged conflicts do not benefit Israel. The country has historically preferred deceptive, immediate, and violent action followed by quick resolution rather than extended engagements.
While acknowledging the impressive military capabilities on display, caution remains warranted. Iran possesses a conventional military and represents a large country with a proud history. Persia was once a great power, and the Iranian people maintain a memory of that respected position. The strikes represented an absolute humiliation of the Iranian regime. The worst-case scenario involves Iran attempting to create regional chaos by deploying hundreds of thousands of troops into neighboring territories or activating proxy forces throughout the region to draw multiple parties into conflict.
The MAGA Base Position on U.S. Involvement
A poll conducted during live coverage showed overwhelming opposition to U.S. military involvement, with 88% of over 323,000 respondents indicating the United States should not get involved in Israel's war against Iran. This reflects deep skepticism within the MAGA base about American military intervention in the Middle East. Common concerns include enriching war contractors and perpetuating a permanent war machine rather than achieving peace.
The position articulated is clear: no U.S. boots on the ground, no American kinetic involvement. This is viewed as Israel's war and Israel's exercise of self-determination. While maintaining a pro-civilization and pro-American perspective, the emphasis remains on allowing Israel to conduct its own operations without dragging America into another Middle Eastern conflict. The base supports Israel's right to defend itself while strongly opposing American troops being committed to combat operations.
Reporting From Inside Israel
Josh Hammer, reporting from the Tel Aviv area during the strikes, provided ground-level perspective on the situation. Israeli citizens experienced air raid sirens at 3:00 a.m. local time that awakened the entire country. These sirens were not for incoming rockets but rather to alert the population that major operations were occurring inside Iran with potential for imminent retaliation. Families, including Hammer's own with a six-month-old baby, rushed to bomb shelters as standard procedure.
The atmosphere in Israel resembled hurricane conditions, with empty roads, depleted supermarkets, and lines around stores as people prepared for potential retaliation. Despite various divisive issues in Israeli politics, including debates over Netanyahu's leadership, the two-state solution, and military conscription, the Iran issue represents rare consensus among Jewish Israelis. From far-left members of the Knesset to right-wing politicians, there is sober, hawkish agreement that Iran represents an existential threat requiring decisive action.
Hammer noted a paradoxical sense of safety, expressing that he felt more secure in Israel with IDF protection than he would in certain American cities with large Jewish populations but less robust security. The concern shifted to potential Iranian sleeper cells activating in Western countries, particularly in blue jurisdictions where local governments might not adequately protect vulnerable targets like synagogues and kosher restaurants. The threat of lone-wolf attacks by radicalized individuals in the United States and Europe emerged as a significant concern following the strikes.
Iran's Compromised Response Capacity
The question of why Iran had not responded nearly 24 hours after the initial strikes revealed the extent of Israeli success. Israel had systematically crippled Iran's various proxy forces over preceding months, particularly Hezbollah in Lebanon. Hezbollah's arsenal of over 100,000 precision-guided missiles had long served as Iran's sword of Damocles hanging over Israel. This threat had previously deterred Israeli action against Iran itself, as any strike would trigger massive retaliation from Lebanon's border.
However, Hezbollah had been reduced to perhaps 10-20% of its former capacity, clearing the path for operations against Iran. Additionally, the physical elimination of top-ranking Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps generals and staff members meant that the individuals who would literally call the shots for retaliation were potentially no longer alive. This represented an astounding decapitation of Iranian command and control capabilities.
Israel's goal appeared focused on neutralizing Iran's nuclear threat rather than regime change. The destruction of facilities like Natanz, the most infamous Iranian uranium enrichment site, represented complete elimination according to international nuclear watchdogs. If the objective was preventing Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons capability, Israel demonstrated it could achieve this independently without U.S. ground forces. The logistics of a ground invasion across Iraq into Iran were essentially impossible to contemplate.
American Security Implications
While Iran represents an existential threat to Israel specifically, it also poses genuine threats to American interests. Iranian actions have resulted in American casualties for 46 years, from the hostage crisis that ended the Carter presidency to the 241 U.S. Marines killed at the Beirut barracks by Hezbollah, to the 500-600 American soldiers killed by Iranian-supplied IEDs during the Iraq War counterinsurgency. The destruction of Iranian military capabilities and nuclear infrastructure therefore conduces to enhanced American security.
From a nationalist realist foreign policy perspective, Israel's national interests in the Middle East substantially overlap with American regional interests. The United States becomes safer and more secure when threats like Iranian nuclear capability and regional terror networks are neutralized. America benefits from this operation essentially on the cheap, without deploying troops or engaging in direct combat. This represents an ideal allied relationship where a partner nation acts in its own national interest while simultaneously advancing shared security objectives.
The concern about potential Iranian retaliation through sleeper cells in America remained significant. With millions of people having entered the United States during the current administration, the possibility of Iran activating assets within American territory represented a real threat. The recommendation to stay armed and vigilant reflected genuine security concerns about soft targets throughout the United States in the aftermath of such a humiliating strike against Iranian power.
The Path Forward
The fog of war makes definitive conclusions impossible in real time. Military operations that appear successful in initial phases can become complicated as situations develop. The requirement remains for measured, factual reporting without hyperbole while maintaining moral clarity about civilizational values. Israel has demonstrated remarkable military capability and intelligence penetration, but the ultimate consequences of these strikes will unfold over days, weeks, and months.
The risk-reward calculus of this operation represents a bold gamble by Israel. The shorter any resulting conflict remains, the better the outcome for all parties except Iran's regime. Extended regional war would benefit no one except those who profit from conflict. The hope is that Iran's compromised command structure and depleted proxy forces will prevent escalation into broader conflict that could draw multiple nations into protracted warfare.
For Americans, particularly those in the MAGA movement, the question of support for Israel must be balanced against determination to avoid repeating past mistakes in the Middle East. Diplomatic and moral support for an ally's right to self-defense differs substantially from committing American blood and treasure to another Middle Eastern conflict. The overwhelming sentiment expressed in polling reflects this distinction and the hard lessons learned from two decades of inconclusive warfare in the region.
Video Transcript
We saw this happening in real time yesterday. Uh the news heard around the world. We were live streaming last night and it's important in sit in times like this in situations that involve war and kinetic conflict to report the facts and to stay calm collected with a lot of precision not to get too excited not to get involved in hyperbole or measure be very measured in your reporting. In fact I believe you the audience that's why you keep on tuning in. Right now, we are the number one conservative podcast in Apple News because we did a late night stream all about the Israeli strikes on Iran. And you can count that this program will have a pro- civilization, pro-American view on all these things, and we're going to tell it like it is. We're going to report all the facts of exactly what has happened. So, what occurred? Well, so Israel hit over 100 targets against Iran and as I am talking right now, it's continuing. The bombing campaign is continuing. Here is what is so remarkable is that Israel was involved in a little bit of a deception campaign. Totally legitimate. There's nothing wrong with deceiving your enemy. Israel said, "Oh, you Netanyahu is going to go to a wedding and we're going to try to, you know, try to slow walk. We might go to DC and, you know, have some talks and some diplomacy." And amazingly, Iran let its guard down. Israel was able to infiltrate the inner circle of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard. They were able to infiltrate the top levels of the IRGC. And we're going to learn a lot more of what happened in the days and weeks of exactly what has happened. But this was not merely just a bombing attack against Iran's nuclear facilities. It was a decapitation strike against the entire Iranian military. They took out Mhmi, the chief of uh the Iranian chief of staff, general staff, the head of their military. That is like the equivalent of taking out JD Vance and Susie Wilds. They took out Hassan Hussein Salami, the commander of Iran's Revolutionary Guard. They also hit the following targets. capital in Thran. Netnat where Iran enriches uranium. Tabris where explosions have been reported near a nuclear research center and two military bases. Kerasha I'm butchering these pronunciations but whatever. West of Tran where an underground facility storing ballistic missiles was hit near the Iraqi border. Plus other major cities like Isafahan and Iraq. Iraq. A R A K. Not well not Iraq yet. the country. Iran's air defenses appear to have been totally compromised, offering no resistance at all to Israeli air strikes. And to the knowledge that we have right now, and again, this could change at any moment. It looks as if not a single Israeli aircraft has been shot down. Again, that it's the fog of war, so we do not know yet, but we don't have any reports of any Israeli aircraft that has yet been taken down. Israel was apparently able to exe execute some stunning infiltrations such as smuggling explosive explosives directly into Iran in advance of the strike. Regardless of your opinion of Israel, even if you hate Israel to your core, you have to have remarkable respect for MSAD and their military for what they were able to pull off here. understand that Iran knew this was coming. And without getting into too many details, we knew this was coming. In fact, I was talking to Blake and Andrew and I'm like, "Guys, unless my sources are totally wrong, in about two hours, Iran is about to get lit up like a Christmas tree." So, I knew it was coming. A lot of other reporters I was talking to knew it was coming. and Iran still was infiltrated because it seems as if that Israel was able to infiltrate at such the highest levels of the Iranian government. They use the looming attack as a way to gather all of these senior Iranian officials together to then strike them. Remember, we moved out all diplomatic and non-essential staff. This was somewhat of a deception surprise attack, but this was the longest windup. Here it comes. Here it comes. Here it comes. And it does beg the question, is Iran a paper tiger? We'll explore that later, which is wait, we're I I understand that the intel shows that they were close to a nuclear weapon, but there's a little bit of a contradiction here of if they really don't have any air defense systems and they're this foolish and kind of a third world country. It really makes you wonder like how sophisticated of a threat this actually is. However, it's happening and Israel is a sovereign country and they made and you have to just say this, they made an incredibly ballsy move with a lot of hutzbah. Took a lot of hutbah for them to do this and we're going to find out in the next couple days and weeks and months the ramifications of that, especially from a pro-American standpoint, which I want to get into. But they also killed some of the nuclear scientists. That's 564. Good. You know, by the way, if you want to just have entertainment, watch this show of me trying to pronounce these ridiculous Persian names. Faradun Abbasi. I think I got that one. Muhammad Medi Tajanani, the physicist and president of the Islamic Azad University in Thran. The Israeli operation was not just air strikes. The Israeli MSAD intelligence service has operatives on the ground conducting covert sabotage operations on missile and air defense sites, and it's ongoing. Israel right now has complete command over the air of Iran. No one really could have anticipated that. No one could have predicted it. And this is why no planes have been shot down. And BB Netanyahu and the Israeli government, they're basically having an all you can eat buffet in Iran. These they've had these targets basically in their tickler file for quite some time. They've had these targets like, hey, here they are all over Iran for quite some time. And they're like, why are we going to stop now? We're just going to keep on going. They have all they This is a dream for Israel in the sense where they for quite some time would have would love to have been able just to fly over Iranian airspace with no opposition whatsoever. 562, which I think is a very important picture. Yes, some residential buildings were struck, but that's some pretty remarkable precision. I this visual is something and on podcasting and radio you just have to take pause and be like that's as good and as sophisticated of a military that I think you'll ever see. So here you have for those that you can't see it on podcasting and radio a high-rise residential building in Tyrron where the neighbors above and the neighbors below literally they were able to either through a drone or through a fighter jet have a precision missile go to what what is that like the eighth floor but not the ninth floor not the seventh floor and they decided not to take down the entire building and I do think that is a necessary picture where the stereotype and the prejudice against Israel is that oh they take down residential buildings just for fun and to go after civilians. I think that picture is a very important picture that I hope is included in the national nar international narrative that Israel actually decided not to take down that entire residential building because that would have been a narrative collapse alongside an apartment collapse because if they would have taken down the entire building first of all innocent people would have unnecessarily died and I'm sure some people did. I mean, you can't maybe the missile would have continued into another apartment building. However, it looks as if the apartments above and below are largely still intact. We don't know all the details associated to it, but Israel very well could have collapsed the entire building and they could have said, "Hey, you know, these are command and control centers. What's the big deal?" That's another picture that shows that the apartments kind of above and below are kind of untouched. And part of this also is that Israel's strategy here is they know that many of the everyday rank and file Persians hate the Iranian regime. They hate the Iranian regime and they don't want to try to turn the Iranian people against Israel unnecessarily. They're trying to fight a war of liberation. A very risky war. And I want to just make sure that's very clear in this fog of war. It's easy to get caught up in the overemphasis on the military action. I I do want we're going to talk about this from an American standpoint from where does the base stand on this. Israel has a right to do what they want to do. There's a very there's a riskreward calculus. We'll talk about that in just a second. With new tariffs rolling in, families everywhere are bracing for yet another jump in grocery prices. But good ranchers.com is tariff proof thanks to their 100% American supply chain. 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And Israel's operation against Iran has been far more successful as of right now than anyone could have dreamed. No one could have dreamed that they're taking out the entire core of the Iranian military. Not to mention bombing after bombing of nuclear reactors and airports and military sites. And in some ways, for many people in this audience, and also for those of us that want to see civilization succeed, this is very satisfying to watch. But we must also caution you. And the Iraq war and the Afghanistan war show us that it might not necessarily continue that way. The first weeks of the Afghan and the Iraq war looked incredibly easy. Remember shock and awe? shock and all was, you know, looked like, wow, there is no situation that we can't handle. Iraq will bend to our will. And for those of us that are America first, but also are very sympathetic to Israel, this has always been our cautionary tale, which is that war is far more complicated. Military strikes are usually much murkier and complicated than it might seem on TV. our generation especially and the base of the Republican party, we have never seen a triumphant declarative military victory. And I hope everybody in the audience understands that. Everybody in MAGA that says, you know, keep the strikes going. And I totally get it. I I see it from that perspective. But also understand that the base of MAGA has never seen a declarative victory. And I can tell you right now, our MAGA base does not want a war at all whatsoever. They do not want US involvement. They do not want the United States to be engaged in this. And let's just go 569. This is a picture of the Iraq shock bombing. You might remember it felt as if we were going to steamroll Iraq. And this would be like a two-month operation, similar to the Persian Gulf War back in 1991. But the Middle East has a tendency to draw you in. It is the land of sand and death, as President Trump would say. The last major war that America clearly and definitively won is the Gulf War. And even that led to the Second Iraq War. Before that, it was World War II. And ma the Korean War, you could argue had some real good upside with the creation of South Korea. Wars are not profitable endeavors. And even from a pro-Israel standpoint, Israel does not benefit from long conflicts or long wars. The shorter the conflict, the better it has always been for Israel. That's why they prefer deceptive, immediate, and violent action. We as conservatives must be very morally clear as to what side we are on, but we must resist the siren song of displacing dictators in lands we do not understand and we have no business running. And I just want to have a cautionary tale because it can feel very good and seem very good and it objectively can be good. When I see a picture of that apartment building, I kind of just have awe and I'm like, man, I struggle to like install my TV. I I need someone to help me set up the Wi-Fi. Like, Mikey, get in here. Set up the Wi-Fi. I mean, what they do in the tech room is like the most impressive thing. They got guests and they got Zoom and they got different televisions and they got audio stuff. And look at this. They're sending missiles to the eighth floor, but not the ninth floor or the seventh floor. I mean, I I'm I marvel at that and you should, too. However, Iran does have a conventional military. They are a proud and they are a big country. Persia was once a great power. They have a memory, a very serious memory of being respected. And this was a humiliation. This was an absolute humiliation of the Iranian regime in Mullis. and it is continuing. Iran could say that they're going to just go march 900,000 troops into Iraq. The Iranian play is there. The worst possible case scenario is Iran says, "Okay, you humiliated us. You killed all of our leaders. We're going to go make this a regional mess and try to get as many people involved as possible." They're going to go after Americans. They're going to go after Saudis. They're going to go after everybody imaginable just to create a big mess and to try to draw the world into it because understand the Iranian people are widely respected and not necessarily are always in sync with leadership. But if and when the people of Iran feel like Persia is being defaced and humiliated and disrespected, we don't know where that is going to go. And that's my final reason why I am always skeptical of military intervention. And when a lot of the sometimes wararm mongering wing gets too excited, you don't know. Actually, you need to have a lot of humility. You do not know how things are going to work out. It is impossible. But I can say concretely, here is where I stand and where the MAGA base stands. We do not want US boots on the ground. We do not want American kinetic involvement. This is Israel's war. This is Israel's self-determination in play. And with that, we welcome Josh Hammer from Newsweek. great man and very clear thinker. Uh host of the Josh Hammer Show and author of Israel and Civilization. So Josh, I mean I have to ask the kind of elephant in the room. How many paces how many steps are you from a bomb shelter? God forbid you have to go there. Yeah, I'm laughing, but I probably shouldn't be laughing. Charlie, uh you know, we woke up at 3:00 a.m. local time here. The the whole country has sirens nationally, and you know, we have our six-month old baby here. It's actually our first time flying with our baby. So, so it's no joke. So we immediately went down to the bomb shelter in the house where where we are staying. We we soon learned within minutes that these sirens were not due to incoming rocket fire. Instead, the IDF home command did sirens nationwide to essentially alert the people that you know major stuff was going down inside Iran and there was the potential of imminent retaliation there. That I think was what the IDF was most concerned about was they were concerned about imminent immediate retaliation. There's now been over 12 hours, actually far more than that since that. And I think that the threat level h has decreased. But to to your very first question, Charlie, there's a bomb shelter, probably 30 or 40 steps over there. So, God god forbid I could make a dashboard and I think I'll be okay. Well, yeah, and I hope everyone in the audience understands that that's now become normal life in Israel. So, you are outside right now and which is great. Praise God. You can see the sun. But I I just So, I have so many questions here and I'm just going to kind of go to stuff I can get from you that I can't get from the cable networks. What is the vibe? You're there with your your kid. You are there with, you know, so so many people you care about. What what is the what is the morale like on the ground? Do is do the Israelis support this? Well, uh, this whole trip and Charlie, like you, I've been to Israel a number of times. This this whole trip thus far has been not exactly what what we signed up for. So, my wife and I were getting dinner the other night in the Tel Aiv area on the ocean. There was a massive siren. We ran to a bomb shelter. Turns out that there was a Houthi ballistic missile incoming from Yemen. That that was just two or three nights ago. And now this is the the mission of all missions. What Israel is called is calling Operation Rising Lion. The the operation inside Iran. Charlie, I'm here in the broader Tel Aviv area. As you can see in the background here, the sun is slowly starting to set. The the Jewish Sabbath Shabbat is coming in. So, I guess we're spending this the Sabbath here. We were planning to be in Jerusalem, but we didn't want to get in the car and drive an hour and a half risk, god forbid, getting stuck in traffic with with a lot of missiles. Again, we have a six-month old, so we're being smart state parents here there. So, we're locking down. Now, what I can tell you is that the locals here, the roads are empty. The roads are basically like a ghost town. The supermarkets, it's like a hurricane. I've bumped through hurricanes living in Florida back home. I I've lived in Houston, Texas, Miami, Florida during hurricanes. Anyone who has been to a supermarket during a hurricane knows that the that the shelves are just totally, you know, you can't get any food items. There is a line around the door curling around the supermarket. Same thing here. It feels like a hurricaneike condition right now. Again, I guess we're going to see what actual hurricane in the form of an Iranian retaliation actually comes here. But the the thing about the Israeli people, Charlie, and and holding aside the Arab Israelis, it's a little more complicated. But the thing about Jewish Israelis, which are still the vast majority of the Israeli people, there there is full consensus as to the Iranian issue. There are a number of very very divisive issues here in Israel. BB Netanyahu, the two-state solution versus one-state solution with the Palestinian Arabs, the issue of the Karedi ultraorththodox draft into the IDF. There are a lot of very contentious issues here in the Israeli domestic political spectrum. But if there's one very important point, I think for your audience to know is that the Iran issue is not a contentious issue. I remember speaking back in 2016 during the 2016 presidential cycle, I spoke with a far-left member, a Jewish member of the Knesset, their legislature here. Charlie, dude was so far left, he was an actual Bernie Sanders supporter. I kid you not. And even this guy, even this guy who was a total peace on the Palestinians, a total liberal on all domestic issues, you name it, there even he was very sober and hawkish-minded on Iran because there was an understanding here that Iran actually genuinely is the existential issue and that if the IDF's mantra that never again means never again, if it means anything whatsoever, then Iran has to be dealt with at some point. It turns out that they dealt with it or at least started to deal with it while I happened to be visiting the country here. I'm now going to refer to you as our Israeli war correspondent. We we're going to have you on as much as you'll have us. I have I have so many questions here, Josh. Um just a more technical one while I have it on top of my head. I'm guessing that this will be a Shabbat that is largely not honored by the military in the best possible way, right? I mean, it's not like the whole country is just going to go to sleep while Iran could launch a bunch of missiles. Am I correct in that regard? Look, everyone has to do what they can here. So, uh, you know, not to get too deep in the weeds of Jewish law, but there is a well-known Jewish principle known as nephesh, which basically means that there's an overwhelming imperative to save a human life at all costs. And when human life has to be saved at the expense of of desecrating the Jewish Sabbath or any other of the violation of Jewish law, it has to be done there. So, for example, Charlie, back home in Florida where I pray, I prayed at a local synagogue near near the beach. There's a guy who has a walkie-talkie there because he's actually an emergency driver for Hatsala, the emergency services there. So, he's allowed to do that for reasons of Kuwak Nephes. So, similarly here in Israel when there is an active threat of the world's leading state sponsor of jihad potentially launching God knows what kind of missiles, drones or whatever we'll have here over the next 48 72 hours. Who the heck knows? Yes, I think people are going to to interpret nephesh and take it into their own hands. It's just so I I I I want to I have so many questions, but I hope people understand that even in the midst of all the terror that still the Shabbat will be honored and the kadesh will be said. It's just pretty amazing how I'm turning off my phone, Charlie. Well, it's just it's remarkable. So, so Josh, let me ask you. So, now now let's get more to like the technical side. Are you surprised and what is your reaction, I should say, to the fact that Iran has not really responded yet that we're we're coming on almost a 24-hour marker and there have not been missiles that are cascading down on Israel. Why is that? And is it because that Israel is just having a feeding frenzy in the interior of Iran right now? So, it's such a real time, minute-by-minute situation that it's a little hard to keep up with everything. I did hear maybe about 30 45 minutes ago that there were rocket sirens in northern Israel. I assume that is from Hezbollah and Lebanon or at least the remnants of Hezbollah in Lebanon because Hezbollah has been dealt such a crippling blow over the past year or so by by Israel. But Iran Charlie and this is why Israel apparently felt that this was the time to actually launch this operation that was literally decades in the making was that they had done such such an amazing job at crippling Iran's various proxies. Hezbollah in particular in Lebanon with their massive 100,000 plus precision guided missile arsenal. That was always the Iranian regime's kind of sort of damocles hanging over the Israeli people here. It's right on the Israeli border up north there. And Israel knew that if they were to ever launch a serious operation against Iran, then Hezbollah would just rain down lots and lots of missiles on Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, or all the population corridors there. But Hezbollah has not been literally eliminated. But they I mean you know 80 90% I mean they are on really really really weak knees right now there now. So the path was really really clear and then inside of Iran itself you look at just the sheer number of the top ranking IRGC Islamic revolutionary guard corps the general staffers that apparently have been killed over the past 12 to 18 hours there. I I mean Charlie I think we're literally talking about a situation where the actual physical men who would literally call the shots are perhaps no longer with us. It's a pretty astounding thing to say there but I think that's the reality inside Iran right now. And so let let me ask you the So then it looks as if Israel is continuing a bombing campaign against Iran. I I mean how else can Iran respond if their missile capacity is largely disabled? Well, look, they have the potential to try to launch extr territorial assassinations. Charlie, I'll be honest with you. In a weird way, I actually almost feel safer here in Israel than if I were back home in the United States. I live in Florida, so Florida is kind of the exception to the rule. Florida is an incredibly safe place to to be Jewish. It's an incredibly safe place, frankly, to to be anyone. But I I do think in a time like this about more exposed Jewish communities, Israeli expatriate communities in blue jurisdictions. I think a lot about New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, places like that at this time there because those are the places where the local government is not necessarily going to be up to speed at protecting vulnerable soft targets, synagogues, kosher restaurants, things like that at this time here. Living here or no, I don't live here, but being here in Israel at this time here and and and having the the IDF protect us, I I feel pretty good for for the most part there. But they do have the capacity. Iran Iran has a lot of sleeper cells. They have a lot of sleeper cells, a lot of lonewolf agents, a lot of people all throughout the West, a lot of these crazy radicals, the Makmu Khalil on the university campuses, a lot of folks who are are pledging and vowing to to take up not necessarily full-on jihad in an ISIS style caliphate here in the Middle East, but just engaging in lonewolf style attacks, very similar to what the Marxists did in in slaughtering, brutally assassinating this two Israeli diplomats in Washington two weeks ago. So, that's the kind of soft lonewolf target that I'm actually most scared of at a time like this. I'm less scared about whatever is coming from Iran in kind of a paradoxical way, even though I'm right here kind of in the crosshairs of fire. Yeah. I mean, I I literally put up on Twitter, I'll I'll read it to the audience, which is, keep your head on a swivel. Biden let millions of people into America. Iran might activate some sleeper cells against Americans. Stay armed. And I mean, that that goes for all people, right? Is the Iranian sleeper cells into the interior of the United States. Can Israel win this without United States troops? So, it totally depends how you define when. I Charlie, it seems to me that Israel is is not at least at this moment seeking to decapitate the head of the snake. Again, we'll see. It's a very, very fast time situation there. It seems to me like if they were going to take their shot at the Ayatollah at Kamei, it probably would have happened in the wee hours the morning. Again, what do I know? I'm I'm just kind of playing a spec speculation game here. But the goal of this operation, so far as understanded, is simply to neutralize the nuclear threat. And if that is the goal, if that is the goal, then I think that Israel has already shown that is fully capable of doing that. Just to take one example, I mean, they had a a large large number of Iran's nuclear facilities. But just to take one example, Natans, which is maybe the most infamous of all of the Iranian uranium enrichment facilities. Natans has been kind of front and center of all these can Israel strike Iran debates for the past 15 20 years now. These debates have gone back a long time. uh Israel has has by all accounts according to the IAEA the UN international nuclear watchdog they call it Natans has been completely obliterated. There is no more Natans nuclear facility. I mean that is an astonishing astonishing thing right there. So again if they if the goal of the Israeli operation rising line I think is is the name that that the IDF is giving it. If the goal is to neutralize the Iranian nuclear threat then I think they are fully capable of doing this on on their own. There's not going to be a a a a ground invasion or anything like that there. It's not going to happen. I mean, the logistics of that are just impossible to even contemplate. I don't know. I don't even know what that looks like. I mean, the tanks start rolling over Iraq. I mean, I mean, it's not going to happen. So, the goal of this is tactical aerial strikes to to neutralize a harrowing threat of the world's number one state sponsor of jihad, these fanatical Islamists who genuinely believe in 72 virgins in heaven. all that there. The goal is is to decapitate their capacity to launch a nuclear strike on Israel, Europe, anywhere else if they were to ever acquire, god forbid, intercontinental ballistic missile technology. And so far, they've been very successful. Josh, I want to put this uh up here. We did this on X last night. I asked our audience uh 323,000 people voted. Should the US get involved in Israel's war against Iran? 88% said no. I can't imagine you're surprised by that, though, Josh. So, as someone who's in Israel and cares about Israel, but is also an American, walk me through your reaction to that and how you think this plays out politically. Yeah, Charlie, I don't think the US really has to get involved. I I I have never once actually in my entire commentary career called for the US to directly get involved in military or kinetic action against Iran because frankly, it's not my stance. I I thought that the first Trump era maximum pressures economic campaign was was very successful there and then beyond economic pressure and and placing crippling sanctions on the oil and natural gas exports to the Chinese Communist Party above all there. I've always thought that that as Israel could take the military end of the bargain and do what needs to be done. All that essentially is needed from the United States is to cast the various vetos at the UN National Security Council and things like that there. But Charlie, I I I I was I would suggest that another way to view it actually is this way. I Iran obviously is an is is an existential threat to Israel. It is a major threat to other countries, but it is a larger threat to Israel. And I think it would be sloppy analysis to try to needlessly conflate the degree of the threat to Israel to others. There is a threat to United States, but not the exact same threat. Having said that, it is a threat. Iran definitely does have American blood on its hands for 46 years. Going back to the hostage crisis that launched the regime and ended the Jimmy Carter presidency. Going back to the 241 US Marines slaughtered at the at the marine barracks in Beirut, Lebanon from Hezbollah, the top Iranian proxy. The 5 to 600 American soldiers killed by Kasimsulammani supplied IEDs on the roadside of Albar and Fallujah during the Petraeus counterinsurgency during the Bush administration. And on and on and on we go there. So I I I think another way of of viewing this is as follows which is that Israel is acting as as a good ally should act in securing not just its own national interest. It happens to be an existential interest in this case there but also then ultimately conducing to the enhanced and greater safety and security of the United States of our European allies and so forth and so forth there. The United States Charlie today and for the foreseeable future is a safer and more secure place because of what Israel is doing inside of Iran. This is a very very key point there. Again, this was needed for Israel. Israel is acting as any sovereign nation state would do in its own national interest here. But the key thing, and I and I make this point at great length in my book, Israel and Civilization, but the key thing here is that when it comes to the Middle East, and this is kind of what you would what you expect of an ally from a nationalist realist foreign policy paradigm, the key thing is that Israel's national interest in this region is overwhelmingly vin diagram over overlapped with the American region. The degrees may actually vary for sure. I will happily and readily concede that there. But again, America is a safer and more secure place today from Israel simply doing this. In fact, America in many ways is is benefiting frankly on the cheap because we're not actually sending in any kind of troops. And no one is calling for that. By the way, no one seriously literally I haven't found a single person who's actually calling for that there. So, as long as it remains on the cheap, I think America looks quite good actually. Josh, please stay safe. I know that you are in a calamitous situation right now and uh we'll be praying for you and praying for your family and praying for the peace in Jerusalem. Thank you so much. God bless you, Charlie. Thank you. Thank you. I I want to just uh go a little bit deeper into the politics here and we talked about the cautionary tale. These military operations are almost over oversimplified in the media and they kind of have an immediate crescendo and then some complication as one proceeds. I could tell you though that young MAGA especially the more online you get the more skepticism there is about America getting involved in this in the quagmire in the in the non-stop flow of military intervention in the Middle East and the base will diverge from some orthodox opinions on Israel that you might hear on cable news or in the mainstream media where the base might have diplomatic and sentimental al support towards Israel which of course I've demonstrated over a very long period of time which the question is though how much money how much funding are we getting involved and to what extent does that lead towards how because I could tell you right now a primary concern from the MAGA base it is a phrase I hear all the time Charlie this is just to get the war contractors wealthier Charlie this is just to get people that are in the permanent war machine more money they want more war and not peace. I hear this all the time from people from those of you in the base. 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