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Charlie Kirk Reveals His Dream Dinner Guests, Favorite Superhero, and Why Breaking Bad Is a Masterpiece

Charlie Kirk opens up about the historical figures he'd most want to meet, from Jesus Christ to Julius Caesar and Benjamin Franklin. He shares candid thoughts on everything from his favorite TV shows to why Batman resonates more than Superman, his love of Greek food, and what he learned from a liberal high school teacher who changed his life. Kirk also discusses his recent back injury that ended his running routine, the loss of his beloved dog, and why he believes Donald Trump and Batman have more in common than people realize. This wide-ranging conversation reveals a side of Kirk rarely seen in political interviews.

March 3, 2020

Dream Dinner Guests From History

When asked who he would most want to have dinner with from the past, Charlie Kirk doesn't hesitate. His first choice is Jesus Christ, noting that his faith tells him he will actually see Jesus for the first time one day. Beyond that spiritual longing, Kirk expresses deep fascination with the great figures of Roman history, including Julius Caesar, Cicero, and Marcus Aurelius. He also mentions wanting to sit down with the philosophical trio of Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle all at once.

Kirk believes America's Founding Fathers haven't received adequate treatment from Hollywood and singles out Benjamin Franklin as particularly compelling. He describes Franklin as an inventor, visionary, writer, and diplomat who was phenomenal in many different ways. For present-day dinner companions, Kirk names Elon Musk as someone he finds compelling because of his perseverance and vision, noting that Musk has real grit despite potential political disagreements.

Breaking Bad Versus Stranger Things

Kirk doesn't mince words when comparing Game of Thrones and Stranger Things, calling it "not even a conversation." He declares Game of Thrones one of the greatest pieces of television ever created while dismissing Stranger Things as awful and unwatchable, lacking any depth or substance despite multiple attempts to watch it.

However, Kirk reserves his highest praise for Breaking Bad, calling it probably his favorite TV show ever created, in a different category than lighthearted shows like Seinfeld and Frasier. He offers a detailed analysis of what makes Breaking Bad exceptional: the anti-hero's journey of Walter White, who starts as the ultimate picture of innocence—a teacher in the suburbs with the last name White—and descends into evil. Kirk explains how the show brilliantly manipulates viewers into cheering for a meth cook, making them complicit in the moral descent. He praises the character arc of Jesse, who struggles with addiction and multiple relapses, and notes how the show subverts expectations by making viewers root against the law enforcement heroes.

Regarding Game of Thrones, Kirk actually loved the ending, particularly seeing Daenerys Targaryen become the brutal leader she was always foreshadowed to be throughout the series. He compares her to a Churchillian Dresden figure rather than the benevolent liberator many fans imagined, though he admits the Jon Snow killing her storyline felt like weak writing.

Food Preferences and Greek Cuisine

Kirk declares Greek food his absolute favorite cuisine, though he acknowledges it tends to slow him down afterward. He loves everything about it—the hummus, the burnt cheese, and particularly the combination of cheese and fire. He recalls eating in Athens and needing to take naps after those heavy but delicious meals. Kirk extends his love to Mediterranean food generally, including Lebanese and Israeli cuisine, praising the olives, salads, and feta cheese.

On the other hand, Kirk doesn't connect with Indian food or German food, though he's careful to note this reflects personal taste rather than any judgment of those cultures. He also dismisses English food, joking about beans on toast. Kirk does love Mexican food and is a fan of sushi when done correctly.

When it comes to breakfast, Kirk's favorite is gluten-free pancakes with real maple syrup and fresh berries, though he corrects himself to say he actually loves French toast most of all. He notes he's celiac and allergic to gluten, not following the trend for lifestyle reasons, though he does recommend it for better health. Kirk clarifies he can tolerate bacon but thinks it's overrated and doesn't share the widespread obsession with it.

Batman, Superman, and the Benevolent Billionaire

Kirk has strong opinions about superheroes, believing they must be relatable to resonate. Superman never connected with him because the character could do everything—turn back time, shoot laser beams, possess ultimate strength. The only weakness being kryptonite from another planet felt too complicated. Kirk didn't like that Superman became less super when transforming into Clark Kent, describing him as a disoriented loser despite being humble.

Batman is Kirk's clear favorite, and he offers an extensive analysis of why. He loves the story of confronting demons, absolute tragedy transformed into triumph, and understanding that what Batman fears most is what he embodies. Kirk argues Batman is conceivable in a way other superheroes aren't—Elon Musk could create a Batman in 50 years. This realism always resonated with Kirk.

Kirk draws a comparison between Batman and Donald Trump that he acknowledges might get him criticized. He sees both as benevolent billionaires who come to save citizens from havoc. Gotham City, in Kirk's reading, was in total pandemonium because of bad management by the left—high crime, lack of leadership, run by gangs. Bruce Wayne uses his wealth, prestige, and power despite having all the trappings of the ruling class to go save people, which Kirk finds beautiful and inspiring.

Music, Instruments, and What Kirk Won't Listen To

Kirk describes himself as liking the best music from every category—good jazz, good classical music, and particularly 70s and 80s rock, which he says draws inspiration from the greats. He loves good Christian music as well. Kirk plays saxophone, clarinet, and piano, having been an all-state bass clarinet player in what he calls a different life. Music is something he wishes he could spend more time with.

Kirk believes most music today is garbage—very repetitive and not very tonal. He makes a distinction between music and noise, arguing that unharmonic music is not music at all. He deliberately avoids naming what kind of music he doesn't like to avoid alienating his audience, saying he refuses to specify but letting listeners guess.

A Back Injury That Changed Everything

Kirk describes a sensitive subject when asked about his workout routine. He was a workout maniac for a couple years before suffering a horrible back injury—two slipped discs—that he's still recovering from. At just 25 years old, he couldn't walk for a week, which he describes as one of the most painful and demoralizing experiences possible.

Before the injury, Kirk used to run 15 miles a day, which he admits was pathological but something he loved. His favorite workout was going for a 15-mile run in 98-degree heat, which he knows sounds like horror to most people but was incredibly fulfilling to him. The injury happened because he didn't stretch enough, something he looks back on with regret.

Currently, Kirk is able to bike, which he enjoys and is grateful for. He hopes to run again one day but doesn't know if he will, leaving it in God's hands. For those addicted to running, he offers a warning to take care of their backs and not think they're invincible as he once did.

The Loss of a Beloved Dog

Kirk reveals he lost his dog in October and is still not over it. He describes his German short-haired pointer as amazing and says he believes dogs are windows into God, almost a window into God himself. Dogs bring out the best in people, make them laugh, and are incredibly loyal.

Kirk got another dog afterward, but it's not the same—she's great, but different. Everyone who's lost a dog knows exactly what he means, Kirk says. Dogs truly are your best friends. He's not anti-cat but isn't pro-cat either, having grown up with cats and not being a fan. Kirk jokes that if he can pick up a dog with one hand, he's not a fan—the bigger the dog, the better. Great Danes are good in his book; he likes dogs to be like horses—big, strong, and confident.

Childhood Memories and National Parks

Kirk's favorite childhood memory is visiting all the national parks with his parents, which gave him great appreciation for the country and the natural beauty God provided. He visited every single national park except Yosemite, and his parents made it a point to show him these gifts.

Kirk highly recommends this experience to others, noting you can visit the Grand Staircase-Escalante, Bryce Canyon, Zion National Park, and the Grand Canyon in five to seven days. He mentions Rocky Mountain National Park and names Glacier National Park as probably his favorite. These visits instilled in him a deep love for the country's natural beauty and the inheritance Americans have been given.

Snickers, Candy Bars, and Marketing Genius

Kirk has a single go-to candy bar: Snickers. He praises their marketing campaign—"You're not you when you're hungry"—as brilliant because it's so true. Kirk grew up eating Snickers and believes it's perfectly constructed, like the greatest hits of all candy with chocolate, nuts, caramel, and nougat all in one.

He's highly opinionated about other candy bars. Twix is overrated. KitKat is overrated. Junior Mints are overrated. Milky Way is garbage. He does appreciate peanut M&Ms and thinks Baby Ruth is very good. Kirk calls out Chunky as an underappreciated candy bar that's phenomenal. Everything else, he argues, is too weighted in the wrong direction to compete with the perfection of a Snickers bar.

A Liberal Teacher Who Made a Difference

When asked about a favorite teacher, Kirk shares a powerful story about his junior year teacher whom he won't name for fear she'll be fired or doxxed. She was a liberal, but she took her job so seriously that she dropped her political preference at the door and taught him more about American history than almost anyone else.

This public sector union teacher got Kirk passionate about the founding of the country. She arrived at 5 AM and left at 8 PM. Kirk calls her a hero who deserves to earn a lot of money, providing evidence that good teachers should be paid more. However, he adds that her Marxist colleagues should be fired. This teacher still represents to Kirk what education should be—dedicated, passionate, and focused on students rather than ideology.

Summer Over Winter, Every Time

Kirk loves summer and abhors winter, which he can't wait to be over each year. Christmas helps him get through it, but winter is a stressful time at Turning Point USA with their big Student Action Summit. Kirk loves heat and sun, knowing he's in the minority with that preference.

He finds late October and early November the most depressing time when winter is coming and the clocks change, making it dark by 4:40 in the afternoon. February becomes tolerable because it's starting to get lighter and brighter. Kirk is a Florida resident, which he describes as fantastic for someone who prefers warmth and sunshine year-round.

Parents as the Greatest Impact

When asked who has impacted him most, Kirk answers his parents without hesitation. He believes that's the correct answer for anyone, noting the Bible commands honoring your mother and father. They had a very big impact on his life and shaped who he became, which Kirk sees as both a personal truth and a biblical mandate that reflects proper priorities.

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