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Allegations have surfaced suggesting that Turning Point USA CEO Erika Kirk fabricated major parts of her personal backstory, especially her claims that she “never dated” while living in New York and didn’t drink, despite multiple videos, photos, and social posts showing otherwise.
Jimmy highlights her past relationship with Daily Wire senior editor Cabot Phillips, the scrubbing of their history, and the strange coincidence that he is now doing “How to Lead Like Charlie” events after Charlie Kirk’s assassination.
Jimmy also points to evidence suggesting previous engagements or serious relationships, plus reality-show footage contradicting her claims about dating and alcohol. The larger takeaway is that her public persona appears manufactured for conservative branding, while the internet keeps uncovering receipts that undermine that image.
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Video Transcript
[00:00] But guess what? So this guy who's
[00:02] allegedly the ex-boyfriend of Erica
[00:06] Kirk,
[00:07] she dated him right before Charlie,
[00:09] that's the story.
[00:11] He's now being tapped to go around and
[00:14] take over for Charlie.
[00:17] It said how to lead like Charlie. Kat
[00:19] Phillips, senior editor, Daily Wire,
[00:22] Turning Point USA.
[00:26] So, it turns out Erica Kirk has been
[00:29] caught in even more lies.
[00:31] >> Unbelievable. I'm shocked.
[00:32] >> So, we got caught the So, here's here's
[00:35] more lies coming out of TPUSA. She's the
[00:37] CEO. And well, here's what she said
[00:41] about their dating life.
[00:42] >> I lived out here. I was here for 5
[00:44] years.
[00:45] I never dated here cuz I saw vicariously
[00:47] through my roommate how terrible it was.
[00:50] >> She never dated for 5 years. The whole
[00:52] time she was in New York. Somehow
[00:54] getting drinks was the replacement of
[00:56] having coffee and breakfast. I
[00:58] personally would rather have coffee or
[01:00] brunch with someone than going I just I
[01:02] don't drink. I find it unproductive. Not
[01:04] because I'm holier than whatever. I
[01:06] that's not I just don't operate that
[01:09] way. But I always thought it was very
[01:11] strange how she would go to drinks with
[01:12] one guy and then go to dinner with
[01:15] another. My situation was a little
[01:17] different. I went to you went to a job
[01:19] interview literally. So this is how good
[01:20] the Lord is. He knew that because I was
[01:24] not dating in New York City. He knew
[01:26] that in order for me to know that that
[01:28] was my man, he had to blanket Charlie as
[01:32] a job interview. Because if that went
[01:34] in, no joke, if he came to me and said,
[01:36] "Hey, let's go on a date to Bill's
[01:38] Burgers." I'd be like,
[01:40] >> she'd be like, "No,
[01:41] >> I lived out here." I was,
[01:42] >> "No, she's not going." So, I just think
[01:45] it's funny how people think God works
[01:47] like that. Like, oh, God had to set us
[01:49] up on this thing. But then uh he wanted
[01:52] to set us up to get married so I could
[01:53] watch him be assassinated on in 4K a
[01:56] couple years later. God didn't intervene
[01:58] on that. So it's just a it's just it's
[02:00] to me it's a sophomoric way to look at
[02:02] God. It's very sophomoric. But anyway,
[02:05] uh turns out she was dating
[02:08] >> what
[02:08] >> turns out. So she was dating this guy
[02:10] named Cabbat Phillips.
[02:13] Uh this is from I think 20 I think this
[02:15] is 2017. It said yes, we're that couple
[02:18] who gets painting lessons together.
[02:25] There they are. Turns out this guy's
[02:28] also a buddy was a buddy of Charlie's
[02:31] and his father's got ties to the war
[02:34] machine. Here is uh here's her name was
[02:37] Erica France by the way.
[02:40] And this is from November 29th, 2017.
[02:44] And she says, "Since this is where it
[02:45] all started, I only found it appropriate
[02:47] to wish you a very happy birthday. Cash
[02:50] cab xxx your catfish."
[02:56] Here's another
[02:59] social media post from uh this is I
[03:01] guess an Instagram. I don't go on
[03:03] Instagram. This is what it looks like.
[03:05] It says uh Luna Bear Studios prepping
[03:09] another couple's gallery for delivery
[03:12] and a heart. Erica France and JT Massie
[03:17] 5, you're both amazing humans and I
[03:20] loved showing shooting with you. So much
[03:23] laughter and love. It was perfection.
[03:28] >> What?
[03:32] So, there's that. And then they
[03:33] scrubbed. And what makes it all more
[03:35] suspicious
[03:37] >> is that that uh Cash Cab guy uh Cabbat
[03:41] Phillips
[03:43] and Erica scrubbed all those posts. So
[03:46] all so the post is gone, but people
[03:48] responding to the post is there. How
[03:50] cute you are y'all.
[03:53] Oh, gorgeous couple. But the post is
[03:55] gone.
[03:58] And here's that guy with Charlie. Yes, I
[04:02] beat Cabbat one-on-one. That was from
[04:03] September 24th, 2017,
[04:07] eight years ago.
[04:12] No, not six. So that So he
[04:16] reposted that.
[04:19] Okay. He also, get this, this is weird.
[04:22] So this guy Cabbat Phillips, he's a head
[04:25] editor over at the Daily Wire, which is
[04:27] a, you know, and
[04:30] he said, "Just discovered that Obama is
[04:32] one of those dads who brings an iPad on
[04:34] vacation to take pics of his family, and
[04:36] it's the greatest thing ever." What?
[04:40] I don't understand. What is he? Is he
[04:41] doing that thing where you play both
[04:42] sides of the fence? Because that's what
[04:44] it sounds like. But guess what? So, this
[04:46] guy who's
[04:48] allegedly the ex-boyfriend of Erica
[04:51] Kirk,
[04:52] she dated him right before Charlie.
[04:54] That's the story.
[04:57] He's now being tapped to go around and
[04:59] take over for Charlie.
[05:02] It said how to lead like Charlie. Cabbat
[05:04] Phillips, senior editor, Daily Wire,
[05:07] Turning Point USA. So these do hosted by
[05:11] TurningPoint USA at South Central
[05:14] Kentucky Community and Technical
[05:16] College. So that's just one of them.
[05:20] That's December 16th, 5:30 p.m. How to
[05:24] lead like Charlie. So that isn't that
[05:26] weird? Yeah, I think it is weird.
[05:28] >> Yeah.
[05:28] >> I found this also. Monday, October 6th,
[05:31] 2025, University Union Building in
[05:34] Flagstaff, Arizona.
[05:37] How to fight like Charlie Fort Cabbat.
[05:41] What does that FT mean? FT cabbid
[05:43] Phillips. What does FT stand for? I
[05:47] don't know. But anyway, says, "How to
[05:48] fight like Charlie Cabbid Phillips."
[05:51] That's That's not even a month after the
[05:53] assassination.
[05:57] Uh here's what our friend James Lee had
[05:59] to say about it. Let's listen to James
[06:00] Lee.
[06:01] >> Erica Kirk's backstory has just been
[06:04] exposed as a giant lie. allegedly
[06:07] >> when I lived out here. I was here for 5
[06:09] years. I never dated here because I saw
[06:11] vicariously through my roommate how
[06:13] terrible it was. I just I don't drink. I
[06:15] find it unproductive.
[06:16] >> We don't know for sure if she wasn't
[06:18] drinking, but she did really enjoy
[06:20] posing with alcoholic beverages.
[06:23] >> So, that might just be her modeling. So,
[06:26] I'll cut slack on that. But, we do have
[06:28] video of her. She was on a reality show
[06:32] and she went on a date on this reality
[06:34] show and she orders a wine on the
[06:36] reality show. So, just letting you know.
[06:38] So, there's that. So, you don't have to
[06:40] you could say, "Oh, I could dismiss this
[06:41] by saying, oh, she's probably just maybe
[06:43] she's just modeling for a for
[06:45] something."
[06:47] Here's her with a glass of champagne. It
[06:50] says, "It's Wednesday, so treat yourself
[06:52] to a little champagne." And did she
[06:54] really not date while she lived in New
[06:57] York City? Well, here is a photo that
[06:59] the internet sleuth dug up from
[07:01] September of 2017
[07:04] with one Cabbat Phillips and the caption
[07:06] said, "Yes, we're that couple who gets
[07:08] painting lessons together." And here you
[07:11] could see Erica Fronie and Cabbat
[07:14] Phillips. I don't know about you, but
[07:16] that looked like a little bit more than
[07:17] just a one-off date. It looked like they
[07:19] were an actual couple, as the caption
[07:21] said. But interestingly, Kat Phillips
[07:24] was actually at one point Charlie Kirk's
[07:27] producer and he is now a senior editor
[07:30] at the [music] Daily Wire. And just
[07:32] yesterday, December 16, 2025, he gave a
[07:35] talk about quote, "How to lead like
[07:38] Charlie." You got to understand, I am
[07:40] not from this world of media. And I
[07:42] think all this kind of incestuity
[07:46] is weird to me. So, not only do we now
[07:49] know that she was dating before Charlie,
[07:51] which is fine. It's a totally normal
[07:53] thing to do, but she was also engaged,
[07:56] perhaps even married. Luna Bear Studios
[07:59] posted this on March 16th, 2015,
[08:02] prepping another couple's gallery for
[08:04] delivery. Erica France and JT Massie,
[08:08] you both are amazing humans, and I love
[08:10] shooting you. So much laughter and love.
[08:12] It was perfection. This is what happens
[08:15] when your entire image is propped up by
[08:20] something that just is not true. If you
[08:22] are not this woman, don't pretend to be.
[08:25] But the bigger point is, why does Erica
[08:27] have to lie about this? Is it just for
[08:29] her to prop up this image that she is a
[08:34] conservative woman, quote unquote,
[08:35] because you can't hide this kind of
[08:37] stuff. The internet is undefeated. Erica
[08:40] Kirk's backstory.
[08:42] So, hey, I said Shabbat shalom, James
[08:46] Lee. I said Shabbat shalom, James Lee.
[08:48] [laughter]
[08:49] I said it with my Chucky eyes.
[08:52] I said it.
[08:56] You like that pick.
[08:58] [laughter]
[09:00] So, here's someone. Uh, who is this?
[09:04] >> Knoxy. Knoxy put together an even better
[09:07] video, and some of it's really hard to
[09:09] hear, but I'll tell you what it is.
[09:10] Ready? is when I lived out here. I was
[09:12] here for 5 years.
[09:14] I never dated here because I saw
[09:16] vicariously through my roommate how
[09:18] terrible it was.
[09:19] >> I feel great about all.
[09:20] >> So, here she is on a date. So, she went
[09:22] on a reality show and here she is on a
[09:24] date.
[09:27] So, he's saying great about all of this
[09:29] and I don't know. I just wanted to get
[09:31] to know you a little bit more.
[09:34] >> There she is. They're on a date.
[09:37] >> I don't know. I just wanted to get to
[09:38] know you [music] a little bit more and
[09:40] like I mean I don't even know how long
[09:41] you've been in New York.
[09:42] >> Gosh, New York. I moved here four years
[09:45] ago.
[09:46] >> Somehow
[09:47] >> So there she is. She
[09:51] uh and she says getting drinks was a
[09:54] well
[09:54] >> getting drinks was the replacement of
[09:56] having coffee and breakfast. I
[09:58] personally would rather have coffee or
[10:00] brunch with someone than
[10:01] >> I think you're a bright light in a very
[10:03] dark place. Um so let's go grab my
[10:08] So there she is out partying there. He
[10:10] says, "Let's go grab a mojito."
[10:13] [music]
[10:14] You coming in here just like
[10:17] to [music] get your number like,
[10:20] >> "Can I get your number?" Yeah, bet.
[10:22] >> They're real.
[10:23] >> You give [music] like a mean background.
[10:25] >> This guy don't drink. I find it
[10:26] unproductive. This guy don't drink. I
[10:27] find it unproductive.
[10:30] >> So there she is. There they are on their
[10:32] first date.
[10:34] They met in that nightclub. We got her
[10:36] number. Now they are on a first date.
[10:39] Uh, you guys want to have a drink or
[10:41] food maybe? And she says, "I'll have a
[10:43] glass of your Chardonnay." [music]
[10:48] >> So, this is how good
[10:49] >> I'll have a What? It's on video.
[10:53] What are the chances we would have a
[10:55] video of her ordering a cocktail?
[11:00] I'm going to guess 100%.
[11:03] The Lord is he knew that because [music]
[11:06] I was not dating in New York City. He
[11:08] knew that in order for me to know that
[11:10] that was my man, he had to blanket
[11:13] [music] Charlie as a job interview.
[11:15] Because if that went in, no joke, if he
[11:18] came to me and said, "Hey, let's go on a
[11:20] date to Bill's Burgers." I'd be like, "I
[11:21] [music] am so sorry. I thank you, but
[11:24] no, we're not."
[11:27] [music]
[11:27] >> So, it wasn't Bill's Burgers. It was
[11:29] some place called Sugar Mama. Is that
[11:30] what it was called? I've honestly spent
[11:33] the majority of my life being [music]
[11:34] one of the most sought after bachelors.
[11:38] >> He He spent most of his life being one
[11:39] of the most soughtafter bachelors.
[11:41] That's what that guy just said.
[11:42] >> Wow. Good for him. He's got a real good
[11:44] sense of ego. [music]
[11:47] >> Two weeks later.
[11:52] >> And according to this video, two weeks
[11:54] later, she was hooked up with Charlie.
[12:04] So there you go. Uh, more real sus stuff
[12:08] coming out of her.
[12:11] I didn't date for 5 years. Does anybody
[12:13] believe that? Does anybody believe that
[12:15] woman in the bikini showing up? She
[12:17] wasn't dating it. Does anybody believe
[12:19] someone who wants to go on a reality
[12:20] show wasn't dating? Does anybody believe
[12:23] that? Somebody's living in a young
[12:25] woman, a model, sexy model
[12:29] who's who's be who's who has no problem
[12:32] doing provocative photo shoots, which I
[12:34] have nothing against, by the way. I'm
[12:36] all for provocative photo shoots, but it
[12:38] seems to go against her brand. Hey, come
[12:40] see me on tour January 11th in Wkey Ki,
[12:42] Hawaii and January 30th in Los Angeles
[12:44] at the Comedy Store. Go to jimmydor.com
[12:46] for a link for tickets.
[12:48] [music]
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