Ian Carroll INSISTS the FBI's Charlie Kirk Assassination Narrative DOESN'T Make Any Sense

[00:00] And so it's it's not so much that

[00:02] there's a smoking gun that like that

[00:03] proves that there's a cover up, but it's

[00:05] that if there wasn't a cover up, none of

[00:08] these things would be happening. The

[00:09] only reason I can think of wanting the

[00:11] gag order is to keep the narrative

[00:14] clean. Case closed, right? The parents

[00:16] should be at least, you know, somewhere

[00:18] available for comment or for access.

[00:22] >> Ian Carol insists that the FBI's Charlie

[00:25] Kirk assassination narrative just

[00:27] doesn't make sense. And in this clip, he

[00:29] goes on the Elizabeth Lane show and

[00:31] talks about the loose ends, the things

[00:33] that the FBI can't get straight, why

[00:36] there is a gag order, and what that

[00:38] tells us about the FBI's bungling of

[00:40] this case, if you can call it that, and

[00:42] not a cover up. So, let's get to the

[00:44] bottom of this. Please like the video

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[00:47] >> So, let's start with what are the new

[00:50] developments and what is your take on

[00:53] them? And then I want to establish some

[00:55] kind of timeline and tell people the

[00:58] story of Charlie Kirk's assassination

[01:00] from the beginning to the end.

[01:03] >> Yeah, there's some important

[01:04] distinctions to draw at the start, too.

[01:06] Um, in terms of where is evidence coming

[01:08] from, what evidence can you trust? Uh,

[01:11] what degree of confidence can you assign

[01:13] to that trust? And, uh, what does that

[01:16] what does each piece of evidence

[01:18] actually mean? because it's great that

[01:20] we're dealing with this in an open uh

[01:24] sort of free environment on the internet

[01:26] and that we have independent journalists

[01:27] kind of analyzing everything together,

[01:29] but that does also lead to a lot of uh

[01:32] questionable evidence that we don't

[01:34] really have verified getting run all the

[01:36] way out as well as evidence that might

[01:38] mean something but sort of is might get

[01:41] over interterpreted as meaning more than

[01:42] we necessarily know it does that then

[01:44] gets run all the way out. So, it's it's

[01:47] easy for people to kind of think there

[01:49] are facts in the case that we really

[01:51] don't know as facts yet or think there's

[01:53] things we don't know that we do have

[01:54] evidence about.

[01:56] >> Yeah, that's really true. Actually, I'll

[01:57] hand it to him on that one. We have

[02:00] knowledge that the FBI probably has a

[02:02] lot more that they haven't released that

[02:04] will come out if it goes to trial and

[02:06] would be shared with the defense team

[02:08] during discovery if it does get to that

[02:10] point. I have my doubts that it gets to

[02:12] that point, but they presented evidence

[02:15] that they think, you know, is

[02:16] particularly compelling in that

[02:17] indictment document. There might be more

[02:19] than that. There might be exculpatory

[02:21] evidence. We don't have, of course, it's

[02:23] the FBI writing this narrative right

[02:25] now. We haven't really heard anything

[02:26] from the defense team. Let's see what

[02:28] they produce or if they're going to

[02:29] contest some of the most controversial

[02:31] aspects in any way, like the text

[02:33] messages, you know, the parents

[02:35] involvement in turning him in, etc. We

[02:37] just don't know the whole story yet. And

[02:40] what we do know is bits and pieces. But

[02:42] what I can say is if the information

[02:45] that the FBI provided, you know, doesn't

[02:48] face scrutiny from the defense team,

[02:50] this kid's going away for life. But if

[02:52] they did taint or doctor the text

[02:54] messages lie about the fact that the

[02:57] parents turned him in, that's more than

[02:59] just an error. That's the kind of thing

[03:00] that would make someone walk and really

[03:02] disrupt the psy narrative. So, we'll

[03:04] have to see where this goes. And yeah,

[03:06] we're in this interesting time now where

[03:08] a lot of the official releases have

[03:10] already happened and Cash Battel has

[03:12] been very clear that he sort of is done

[03:14] with the public disclosure of this case.

[03:17] So now the new developments that are

[03:19] coming out are coming out from leaks and

[03:21] from the public square and from various

[03:23] journalists and whistleblowers. Um, a

[03:25] lot of it is coming from Candace,

[03:26] although she's been on a break for the

[03:28] last two weeks. And um a lot of it is

[03:30] coming from like whatever new video is

[03:33] hitting X today. And it's hard to always

[03:36] verify exactly how much we should trust

[03:39] each piece of evidence. And so there

[03:41] there sort of is a crowdsourced analysis

[03:43] of each individual piece that's being

[03:45] done.

[03:46] >> That's great.

[03:47] >> Yeah, absolutely. And that's going to be

[03:49] the way of the new media landscape, by

[03:51] the way, with the deep state and the FBI

[03:53] not being trusted by more and more

[03:54] Americans, it seems like on the daily.

[03:57] And who would trust the organization

[03:58] that tried to convince Martin Luther

[04:00] King to commit suicide and wiretapped

[04:03] him and Malcolm X and Stokeley

[04:04] Carmichael and murdered Fred Hampton and

[04:07] destroyed the life of Richard Juel and

[04:09] burned women and children alive in Waco

[04:11] when they could have arrested Caresh out

[04:13] on his daily walks. Yeah, we're not

[04:15] trusting that organization. The same one

[04:17] that covered up the Epstein files and

[04:20] that Epstein scandal which they're

[04:22] doubling down on. So yeah, that's the

[04:24] reason for these new pieces of

[04:26] information. One of which includes

[04:28] someone from inside the administration,

[04:31] Joe Kent, one of the top advisers to

[04:33] Tulsi Gabbard, saying, "Hey, FBI, look

[04:35] at these potential angles involving

[04:37] foreign influence in the Charlie Kirk

[04:40] assassination." Well, you know, no cares

[04:44] from the FBI. Cash Patel brushed him

[04:46] aside, said, "No, we're shutting this

[04:48] down. We're not going to explore it."

[04:49] despite the fact that Cash Patel went on

[04:51] Twitter to said say, "Hey, all these

[04:53] angles that people are bringing up on

[04:55] the internet, we're going to explore

[04:56] them." Nope. Shut door. They won't

[04:59] explore them. So, even when it comes

[05:01] from within the administration,

[05:03] searching for alternatives is just not

[05:05] being done by the FBI. They're set on

[05:08] this narrative. Crazy to me how they,

[05:10] you know, we'll talk about the gag order

[05:12] and we'll talk about how Kesh Patal just

[05:14] conveniently says that you know what

[05:16] guys even though Charlie was a public

[05:18] figure loved by, you know, all these

[05:21] young Americans, you get to know nothing

[05:24] about this case, just trust us because

[05:26] FBI has established this amazing history

[05:29] of, you know, always telling us the

[05:30] truth, right? So it it's ridiculous. But

[05:33] I do want to talk about gag order. Why

[05:36] do you think they needed a gig order to

[05:39] shut people up? Like why now? Were we

[05:42] too close?

[05:44] >> Um, it's like that is the million-dollar

[05:46] question, isn't it? Because we don't

[05:48] know what we don't know. We don't know

[05:50] what's not

[05:51] >> out there yet. We don't know what might

[05:52] be being protected. And you know, there

[05:55] there are good reasons to have a gag

[05:57] order in a limited way in certain types

[05:59] of investigations. There's perfectly

[06:01] legitimate reasons for that. But the way

[06:03] that this gag order is structured and

[06:04] the way that the judge seemed to the new

[06:07] judge, by the way, seemed to speak about

[06:09] it in court um verbally sort of implied

[06:13] that the gag order kind it might and

[06:17] maybe does apply to everyone that was a

[06:19] witness, everyone that was there,

[06:20] everyone that was involved, everyone

[06:22] that is a potential witness. Um which is

[06:24] completely insane and uh unprecedented.

[06:27] Um for the most part, as far as I can

[06:28] tell,

[06:29] >> he's actually pretty right about that.

[06:31] This is one of the most sweeping gag

[06:33] orders in US criminal justice history

[06:35] from what I can gather online. Now, to

[06:38] steal man this, what they are saying is

[06:41] they're doing this such that they don't

[06:43] taint the jury pool because if 3,000

[06:46] witnesses, and that's what they say they

[06:48] have in this case, are all talking. So

[06:51] much information will spread to the

[06:52] public that hasn't spread yet. And yeah,

[06:54] a lot of it has spread. That alone could

[06:57] taint the jury pool. It's a very high

[06:59] publicity case. maybe the most prominent

[07:01] political assassination of my lifetime

[07:04] and maybe since RFK and Martin Luther

[07:06] King that their sense is that they will

[07:09] have trouble even creating a pool of

[07:13] jurors if that much information leaks.

[07:15] And there's plausible reason to believe

[07:17] that in cases such as this. But this gag

[07:21] order doesn't extend to family members

[07:23] from what I can determine online too. So

[07:25] the family could talk if they really

[07:27] wanted to. They've been very silent, but

[07:29] that could have plausible explanations,

[07:31] too. It's possible that the defense team

[07:33] headed by Katherine Netor says, "Hey,

[07:36] you know, don't talk to anyone no matter

[07:38] what, no matter for whatever reason,

[07:40] because that could tarnish our legal

[07:42] strategy." Very true. When they're so

[07:44] closely associated with how Tyler

[07:46] Robinson apparently turned himself in.

[07:49] And so to me, it looks like the FBI has

[07:52] put out what limited information it's

[07:54] going to put out. And that was not

[07:56] satisfactory to the public at all. It

[07:58] actually inspired more questions and

[07:59] conspiracy theories and speculation than

[08:02] when we knew nothing.

[08:03] >> And and now that they have sort of

[08:06] finished putting out any information

[08:08] from, you know, the official channels,

[08:10] we're in this period before the trial

[08:12] after official disclosure. And I suspect

[08:15] that there's certain things that they

[08:17] don't want getting out. Um, clearly

[08:19] they've not wanted students speaking

[08:20] about their on the ground experience at

[08:22] all. Almost all mainstream reporting

[08:25] found anyone but students to talk to,

[08:28] whether it's like ex- politicians or,

[08:30] you know, security people or turning

[08:33] points from another campus.

[08:35] >> Almost no students got [laughter] to

[08:36] speak.

[08:37] >> And um there's also an element of what

[08:41] other footage might be out there and

[08:43] what what might that get in the way of?

[08:46] The only reason I can think of wanting

[08:47] the gag order [clears throat] is to keep

[08:50] the narrative clean. Um because if

[08:53] you're worried about contaminating the

[08:54] jury pool, the jury trial, uh that's

[08:57] pretty well already done by the FBI,

[09:00] releasing strange conflicting evidence

[09:02] that is only half of what is sort of we

[09:06] need in order to clarify what's going

[09:07] on. Um all sorts of bizarre statements

[09:10] by Governor Cox back and forth with what

[09:13] official law enforcement statements are.

[09:14] So, the jury pool is already going to

[09:17] have all kinds of contamination

[09:18] regardless.

[09:20] >> Yeah, he's right about that actually.

[09:22] But it doesn't mean that a gag order

[09:23] would prevent even more tainting of a

[09:26] prospective jury pool. So, I think he's

[09:28] right, but I also think it's wrong to

[09:31] say that there's no reason in terms of

[09:33] looking at this as a steelman that there

[09:35] would be a gag order. Yeah, this is a

[09:37] very highly publicized crime. Lots of

[09:39] people are following it. Lots of people

[09:41] were following it in the news. But I I'm

[09:44] telling you, there is a niche that's

[09:46] really really into this story as much as

[09:49] say me and Elizabeth and Ian that

[09:51] doesn't represent the broader American

[09:53] public that hasn't looked into this

[09:55] indictment document that I've read, you

[09:57] know, several times. Many people

[09:58] watching this, I bet have read that too,

[10:00] that have followed what Cash Patel has

[10:02] said about this, you know, into the

[10:05] deepest intricacies of this. And if you

[10:07] don't have a gag order, there's going to

[10:09] be a significant amount of time until

[10:10] this trial in which, you know, everyone

[10:12] hears this and that and the other thing

[10:14] from 3,000 witnesses. That would have a

[10:17] bigger impact than the amount that it's

[10:19] already tarnished people right now. Just

[10:21] something for your consideration.

[10:23] >> So, it's hard to make that justification

[10:24] for this gag order.

[10:25] >> Yeah. And this whole lawyer case, as you

[10:28] know, I've been on this, you know, very,

[10:30] very close. And this whole lawyer case

[10:32] is really bizarre for me because when

[10:34] the whole thing happened, you know, I I

[10:36] knew the best thing to do is to get

[10:39] close to Tyler Robinson because nothing

[10:41] else matters, right? The only person

[10:43] that really can tell us what's going on

[10:45] is Tyler Robinson. So, we can talk about

[10:47] all the videos and how he jumped and

[10:50] when he jumped was Derek Gone was I

[10:52] don't care. The only person with answers

[10:54] right now is Tyler Robinson. So,

[10:57] >> uh I don't know if I agree with this. He

[10:59] was close to his boyfriend Lance Twig

[11:02] who supposedly was transitioning. It

[11:04] seems like he didn't take too much to

[11:06] alter his personal appearance in that

[11:07] direction, but certainly was. We know

[11:09] from Discord links that um Discord leaks

[11:13] by Turkey Tom. He talked about this in a

[11:15] recent video. You know, more about his

[11:18] personal life and spending it with

[11:20] Lance. But not only that, but the

[11:21] parents were involved in turning this

[11:23] guy in and giving the FBI information

[11:26] like in this indictment document when

[11:28] they said they identified him in the

[11:30] footage. It was them that identified him

[11:33] in the footage and then you know

[11:35] confronted him with this and with the

[11:37] help of a family friend sat down and

[11:39] talked to him about it. They also said

[11:41] his mother said that he was becoming

[11:43] more left-leaning, more progay and trans

[11:46] rightsoriented. And we don't know if

[11:48] there's an affidavit that exists of, you

[11:51] know, the parents signing a statement to

[11:52] the effect. They might have even had

[11:54] that in the FBI before they even

[11:56] indicted and pressed charges against

[11:58] him. We don't know that. But all I'm

[12:00] saying is there are answers by a lot of

[12:02] people outside of Tyler that are

[12:05] important to this story. Certainly. So,

[12:07] and I think it's a mistake to say it's

[12:09] all confined to Tyler. Now, would I like

[12:11] Tyler and his defense team to speak and

[12:14] refute anything they think is wrong with

[12:16] the FBI's narrative? Yeah, of course I

[12:18] do. And that will happen if it goes to

[12:20] trial. Certainly. So, but you know,

[12:23] that's the truth, too. It's not just

[12:24] Tyler.

[12:25] >> So, I was sitting at home thinking,

[12:27] okay, how am I going to do this? Like,

[12:29] how am I going to visit this guy?

[12:31] Because as soon as I submit a letter in

[12:32] prison, they're not going to allow me to

[12:34] even get close because I'm a journalist.

[12:36] So, how else can I do it? And I decided

[12:39] why don't I get this poor guy a lawyer.

[12:41] Issue here will be the qualification

[12:44] because we are not qualified to

[12:45] represent somebody on a death row.

[12:47] Right? That's a specific qualification

[12:48] that you need. So I was advised to get

[12:52] someone from New York and this person

[12:55] I'm not going to say his name because I

[12:56] don't know if he approves me to say

[12:58] that. So he's exceptionally good.

[13:01] everyone knows him in New York and not

[13:03] just New York but you know nationwide

[13:05] because he represented some very very

[13:08] important people in different lawsuits.

[13:10] So I ended up calling him and he

[13:14] listened to my story. He thought it was

[13:16] incredibly like interesting and thinking

[13:18] out of the out of the box. So he was

[13:21] like, "Yeah, I'm definitely going to

[13:22] represent this guy. So here's what you

[13:24] need to do. Why don't you somehow get in

[13:26] touch with parents or someone or just

[13:29] Tyler Robinson himself because I need to

[13:32] have a con consent from him to represent

[13:35] him? I can't solicit clients, right? So,

[13:38] I'm like, "All right, well, let's do

[13:39] this." I cannot explain to you enough

[13:44] how hard it was for me to get in touch

[13:47] with any of his relative or or friends

[13:51] or or Tyler Robinson himself. Now there

[13:55] is something undergoing so I cannot talk

[13:56] about that part of the investigation. We

[13:59] are trying to do something to rectify

[14:01] this but why should that be so hard?

[14:05] >> Well I think there's plausible reason if

[14:07] the defense team is telling them not to

[14:09] talk to anyone and many of them are

[14:10] probably in witness protection programs

[14:13] that don't you know give them the means

[14:16] to even interact with many people in the

[14:17] outside world right now. This is turning

[14:19] a whole family upside down. Absolutely.

[14:22] So, and the defense team involved would

[14:25] likely be smart and savvy if they're

[14:27] telling people that were associated with

[14:29] this, especially the parents, don't

[14:31] talk. Don't talk no matter what. Now, I

[14:34] hope Elizabeth can talk to them. I want

[14:36] answers, too, as much as she does, as

[14:38] much as Ian does, but I think there's

[14:40] plausible reasons for that. I don't

[14:42] think that that's necessarily indicative

[14:45] of something that, you know, the

[14:46] prosecution and the FBI is forcing. I

[14:49] think it's more likely that the defense

[14:51] doesn't want them to talk, especially

[14:52] the parents because they were involved

[14:54] in, you know, the FBI's case about how

[14:56] this guy got recognized and turned

[14:58] himself in in the first place.

[15:00] >> Like, why is this guy so protected if

[15:03] he's just a random kid that randomly

[15:06] shot Charlie Kirk because he was met

[15:09] that day or he hated him for like months

[15:11] and months? There, this guy is not a

[15:14] threat then. He already did what he

[15:15] wanted to do. What is the deal with this

[15:18] secrecy? What do you think?

[15:21] >> I mean, there's a whole other dimension

[15:22] to it, too, where we were told at first

[15:25] that he confessed to his parents

[15:28] essentially and then that his parents

[15:29] turned him in willfully and then that it

[15:33] came out that actually no, that's not

[15:35] exactly what happened according to

[15:37] Governor Cox. Actually, he kind of

[15:40] confessed to his parents and then they

[15:42] kind of decided to turn him in with the

[15:44] help of their law enforcement buddy. But

[15:45] then actually Tyler did not confess to

[15:47] law enforcement which is like okay so

[15:49] how do you even have him how did you

[15:51] arrest him if he didn't confess because

[15:53] >> because he was still wanted for murder

[15:55] and they had enough evidence linking him

[15:57] to that murder whether when he got to

[15:59] that sheriff's department or police

[16:00] office like he confessed or not. I mean

[16:03] that's immaterial. They were under a

[16:05] nationwide manhunt for this guy. And

[16:07] because he didn't say it once he got

[16:09] apprehended doesn't mean they weren't

[16:11] still going to arrest him. they would

[16:13] have arrested him outside of the police

[16:15] office or sheriff's department if they

[16:17] could have identified this guy

[16:19] regardless if he walked in. But yeah,

[16:21] the parents did, you know, play a role

[16:25] in identifying him. That's what the FBI

[16:27] documents say. Now, we'll see if the

[16:29] defense team contests that. If they

[16:31] don't contest that, it's pretty damning

[16:33] for him. If you have this family that

[16:35] seems pretty close-knit despite, you

[16:37] know, maybe having some issues with his

[16:39] political turn and his turn toward, you

[16:42] know, a gay relationship with Lance

[16:44] Twig, it doesn't really seem to explain

[16:46] why they'd want to ruin his life

[16:48] forever, especially if they're not

[16:49] talking in accordance with a defense

[16:52] wish with a possible chance of

[16:54] leveraging or coming to a deal with the

[16:56] prosecution to escape the death penalty.

[16:58] I think that's plausible and that

[17:00] explains why even if he walked in and

[17:02] was willing to turn himself in as he

[17:04] told his Discord group that we have from

[17:06] leaks in addition to what the FBI is

[17:08] saying, the FBI didn't mention that

[17:10] Discord leak that Turkey Tom spoke to

[17:12] recently. It would make sense. They

[17:14] would still apprehend this guy if they

[17:17] had evidence that he was the one they

[17:18] were looking for, regardless of whether

[17:20] he said that when he was walking in.

[17:22] >> Exactly.

[17:22] >> Then you're just allowed to arrest

[17:24] people if their parents say they did a

[17:26] crime. is someone said it

[17:27] >> is their parents saying that they did a

[17:29] crime enough to arrest someone. We were

[17:31] told he confessed. We were told they

[17:33] turned him his parents turned him in and

[17:35] that it's all gravy, right? And when you

[17:36] actually look into Lance Twigs and Tyler

[17:39] Robinson's online uh profiles and their

[17:42] history, things that their friends are

[17:44] telling us about them,

[17:46] >> it like if that was the true story,

[17:49] >> case closed, right? the parents should

[17:51] be at least, you know, somewhere

[17:54] available for comment or for access.

[17:56] >> It's not like they should be out telling

[17:58] the whole story, but they should be

[17:59] around and they're not.

[18:00] >> Uh the defense team would not want them

[18:02] to be out telling the whole story if it

[18:04] coincides in any way with the FBI

[18:06] narrative. This I just totally disagree

[18:08] with. They would not want that. They

[18:10] would want them to shut their mouths,

[18:12] especially if they believe they have a

[18:14] chance to get this kid out of the death

[18:16] penalty. Maybe that's their

[18:17] consideration, but that I just don't

[18:19] agree with. Um, yeah, that's what I'll

[18:22] say about that. That part I really

[18:23] disagree with. Lance Twigs should be

[18:25] around and he's not, seeing as he's the

[18:27] key witness in the whole story. As far

[18:29] as we know, he has disappeared

[18:31] completely. And so, it's it's not so

[18:33] much that there's a smoking gun that

[18:34] like that proves that there's a cover

[18:36] up, but it's that if there wasn't a

[18:38] cover up, none of these things would be

[18:40] happening. It would be

[18:42] >> just smooth sailing.

[18:43] >> I I don't agree. Again, the defense

[18:45] would not want key witnesses that are

[18:47] part of the FBI's case against this guy

[18:50] to speak up to media right now if there

[18:53] wasn't a cover up. I I just totally

[18:55] disagree with this. And if you're a

[18:57] defense lawyer and you really want the

[18:59] best for this client, I know nothing

[19:01] about his defense team, but if I was

[19:03] trying to fight for this guy and it

[19:05] really was the guy, I would tell the

[19:07] parents to shut up, especially if

[19:08] they're the ones that turned him in and

[19:10] conduct a legal strategy based upon how

[19:12] do we get around this, you know,

[19:15] evidence that the parents played a role

[19:17] in turning him in. Same thing with the

[19:18] text messages. If I can't refute those

[19:21] through defensive subpoena power, access

[19:23] to Twig's phone and Tyler's phone, both

[19:26] of which the defense would have access

[19:27] to if it's presented in trial, I can't

[19:30] disrupt that. I would want I wouldn't

[19:32] want the parents to be able to talk

[19:33] about that or Twig to be able to talk

[19:35] about that. What if Twig slips that this

[19:37] is right? That adds to the prosecution's

[19:39] case. So, if I'm the defense, I don't

[19:41] want people close to this guy talking

[19:43] even if there isn't a cover up and this

[19:45] is the guy. Um, so there's just so many

[19:48] questions that it all brings up.

[19:49] >> Absolutely. And we'll talk about this

[19:51] Lens Tweet guy. He to me is the biggest

[19:54] suspect. Like I don't know what this

[19:55] guy's up to, but I've never and I've

[19:58] trust me when I tell you I've spoken to

[20:00] every lead investigator I could find.

[20:03] And just to just to connect this story,

[20:05] maybe someone works in their own ways

[20:07] and you know they they release the

[20:09] witness early. Maybe someone likes to uh

[20:12] I don't know keep the parents in a hotel

[20:14] so there's no no clown show around them.

[20:16] I I asked everyone Yan to give me tell

[20:20] me a story that works here. Just tell me

[20:22] a story that works and makes sense,

[20:24] right? None of them were able to.

[20:28] >> Well, I can't I just can't agree with

[20:30] that last part. I mean, he there's a

[20:33] chance that he has fornowledge and more

[20:35] involvement than the text messages

[20:36] indicate. We don't have that evidence. I

[20:38] would like that evidence to be presented

[20:40] if so. But a lot of this crowd that has,

[20:43] you know, a problem with the official

[20:45] narrative, I'm one of them in some

[20:46] regards, by the way. I think the George

[20:48] Zinn thing is especially crazy. The Mike

[20:51] McCoy, you know, having a phone call

[20:53] right away, walking away from Charlie

[20:57] Kirk once he was shot, that doesn't

[20:59] completely comport to what I think too.

[21:01] There there's holes in this to be honest

[21:03] and the FBI shouldn't be trusted. But at

[21:05] the same time, what is linking Lance

[21:08] Twig to this more than Tyler Robinson?

[21:10] Because a lot of that crowd says, "Hey,

[21:11] look at that video. That doesn't look

[21:14] like Tyler Robinson walking up those

[21:16] steps and that clip and that video where

[21:19] they have, you know, photographs of, you

[21:21] know, the shooter, but it doesn't look

[21:24] closer to Lance Twig than it does to

[21:26] Tyler Robinson anyways." And a lot of

[21:29] what people are going off on that is an

[21:31] AI rendition of that video, an AI

[21:33] modified version of that video. And

[21:35] honestly, if the FBI is correct in their

[21:38] indictment, doc, which I'm not saying

[21:39] it's a given, but if the parents said

[21:41] they recognized him as their son, then

[21:44] you're just, you know, arguing with what

[21:47] the parents recognized was their son and

[21:50] it's their son that they raised and, you

[21:53] know, grew grew up with and you're

[21:55] debating with them at that point if

[21:57] that's true. I'm not saying it has to be

[21:58] true, but in either case, I don't think

[22:00] we have the full story here. There's

[22:02] probably exculpatory evidence we don't

[22:04] have. But if this kid can't contest

[22:07] those text messages, if they really are

[22:09] real, he's going to go away for life. If

[22:11] he can, he's not going to be a psy

[22:14] because he's going to walk. If they

[22:15] truly doctor these texts, it'd be very

[22:17] easy for defensive subpoena power to get

[22:20] that information from the provider. or

[22:22] even if you're saying the provider was

[22:23] hacked, if you got access to both of

[22:25] those phones, Tyler's andor Lance's, the

[22:28] messages they have would represent the

[22:30] individual messages. Lots have been

[22:32] written about this in accordance with

[22:33] other trials, but the messages that you

[22:35] receive can't be retroactively changed

[22:38] on those phones by the provider. Those

[22:40] are stored by the device at that point.

[22:42] And this has come up in other cases, by

[22:44] the way, but that's just true. Either

[22:46] way, I want to hear what you guys have

[22:47] to say about it. What do you think are

[22:48] the craziest loose ends here? What do

[22:50] you think we need to know more about? Is

[22:53] Tyler involved? Is there a conspiracy in

[22:55] addition to Tyler we don't know about?

[22:57] Let me know in the comments down below.

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