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Jesse Weber Breaks Down Tyler James Robinson Arrest Documents in Charlie Kirk Murder Case
Jesse Weber and trial attorney Rich Shoenstein examine the arrest paperwork for Tyler James Robinson, the 22-year-old suspect accused of killing conservative political activist Charlie Kirk at Utah Valley University. The affidavit of probable cause reveals a chilling timeline tracked through surveillance footage, showing the suspect's movements from arrival on campus to the fatal shooting in a crowded courtyard. With inscriptions on bullet casings, Discord messages referencing rifle drop points, and a family member's tip that led to Robinson's arrest, Weber dissects the evidence prosecutors are using to pursue aggravated murder charges. The documents detail how Robinson allegedly walked onto campus with a distinctive limp, climbed onto a rooftop, fired a single shot that struck Kirk in the neck, then fled—leaving behind a bolt-action rifle wrapped in a towel. A judge has ordered Robinson held without bail as the case advances.
Court Documents Reveal Detailed Timeline of Charlie Kirk Shooting
Jesse Weber and trial attorney Rich Shoenstein analyze newly released court documents in the case against Tyler James Robinson, the 22-year-old suspect arrested for the murder of conservative political activist Charlie Kirk. The affidavit of probable cause, order denying bail, and public safety assessment report provide an unprecedented look at the evidence prosecutors are building against Robinson.
On September 10, 2025, Charlie Kirk was at Utah Valley University in Orem, Utah, for a political event. He was sitting under a white canopy in a courtyard, surrounded by hundreds of attendees, when a single gunshot rang out at approximately 12:23 PM. Kirk was struck in the neck and pronounced dead at Timpanogos Regional Hospital.
Surveillance Footage Tracks Suspect's Movements Across Campus
Investigators reviewed extensive surveillance footage from Utah Valley University cameras, tracking an unidentified suspect from approximately 11:50 AM on September 10, 2025. The suspect was described as a white male with dark-colored hair, wearing a dark-colored hat, sunglasses, a long sleeve black shirt with an American flag and eagle design, dark-colored jeans, and white-gray shoes consistent with Chuck Taylor Converse style.
The suspect was observed walking with a distinctive gait—a stiff right leg and relatively slow pace, with restricted ability to bend the right leg. He carried a dark-colored backpack and was first captured on camera walking across a grassy area north of Campus Drive. At approximately 11:50 hours, he paused at a pedestrian tunnel, pulled out what appeared to be a cell phone, then continued toward the Lowry Center building.
At 12:15 PM, the suspect entered the Lowry Center building through doors on the southeast corner. He walked up stairs to a common area adjacent to the building, then climbed over a short concrete wall separating the common area from the rooftop at approximately 12:17 PM. He crouched down on the north side of the wall.
The Shooting and Immediate Aftermath
At approximately 12:22 PM, the suspect stood up and began running across the rooftop of the Lowry Center building. Notably, the limp observed in earlier surveillance footage was absent. He ran to the west side of the rooftop, appeared to scoot along as he approached the edge, then laid down in a position consistent with a prone shooting position near the edge, facing west toward the courtyard where Kirk was speaking.
At 12:23 PM, Charlie Kirk was shot. Immediately after, surveillance shows the suspect suddenly standing up from the edge of the rooftop and sprinting north. He ran to the northeast corner of the building, approached the edge, placed a dark-colored item on the rooftop, then lowered himself off and dropped onto the grass below. At 12:24 PM, he was observed running north near the parking lot east of the Lowry Center, then across Campus Drive Road while carrying an item whose identity was not clear from surveillance.
Discovery of Weapon and Disturbing Inscriptions
Investigators discovered a bolt-action rifle wrapped in a dark-colored towel in a grassy area with trees on the edge of the UVU campus, north of Campus Drive Road where the suspect crossed. The rifle had a scope mounted on top. Most disturbingly, investigators found inscriptions engraved on the casings.
The inscriptions included:
- On a fired casing: "Notice bulge. Ow. What's this?"
- On unfired casings: "Hey, fascist catch" followed by arrow symbols
- "Oh, Bella Ciao, Bella Ciao, Bellaciao, Ciao Ciao"
- "If you read this, you are gay. LMAO"
Investigators also discovered a shoe impression on the northeast corner rooftop edge of the Lowry Center building, in the vicinity where the suspect climbed down. The impression was consistent with the sole characteristics of a Converse Chuck Taylor shoe. Palm prints were also found and sent for testing.
Family Member Tips Lead to Arrest
On the evening of September 11, 2025, a family member of Tyler Robinson reached out to a family friend who contacted the Washington County Sheriff's Office with information that Robinson had confessed or implied he had committed the incident. This information was relayed to the Utah County Sheriff's Office, scene investigators at UVU, and the FBI.
Investigators reviewed additional video footage and identified Robinson arriving on UVU campus in a gray Dodge Challenger at approximately 8:29 AM on September 10. He was observed on video wearing a plain maroon shirt, light-colored shorts, a black hat with a white logo, and light-colored shoes. When encountered by investigators in Washington County in the early morning hours of September 12, Robinson was observed in clothing consistent with the surveillance images.
Interviews Reveal Political Motivations and Incriminating Evidence
Investigators interviewed a family member of Robinson who stated that Robinson had become more political in recent years. The family member referenced a dinner prior to September 10, 2025, where Robinson mentioned that Charlie Kirk was coming to UVU. They discussed why they didn't like him and the viewpoints he had, with the family member stating Kirk was "full of hate and spreading hate." The family member confirmed Robinson had a gray Dodge Challenger.
Investigators also interviewed Robinson's roommate, who stated his roommate made a joke on Discord. The roommate showed investigators messages and allowed them to photograph the screen. These photos consisted of various messages between a phone contact named "Tyler" and the roommate's device.
The content of these messages included references to:
- A need to retrieve a rifle from a drop point
- Leaving the rifle in a bush
- Messages related to visually watching the area where a rifle was left
- A message referring to having left the rifle wrapped in a towel
- References to engraving bullets
- Mention of a scope and the rifle being unique
- Messages indicating the contact "Tyler" had changed outfits
Aggravated Murder Charge and Enhancement Statute
Robinson has been booked on charges of aggravated murder, felony discharge of a firearm causing serious bodily injury, obstruction of justice, and capital first-degree felony conduct. The aggravated murder charge includes an enhancement statute because the shooting occurred in a circumstance that put many around Kirk at grave risk of death, even though only one shot was fired.
Weber and Shoenstein discussed how this enhancement is similar to the case against Luigi Mangione, who is accused of shooting UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson. In that case, prosecutors enhanced charges because the shooting occurred in a public street, presenting a risk to nearby bystanders. Here, firing into a crowded event with hundreds of attendees allows prosecutors to seek the highest offense available under Utah law.
Judge Orders Robinson Held Without Bail
Judge Shaun R. Howell signed an order to hold Tyler James Robinson without bail. The order states that probable cause existed for the arrest without a warrant, the current offense is a capital felony, and the court finds substantial evidence to support the charge. A public safety assessment report indicates Robinson has no prior criminal or misdemeanor convictions, making the seriousness of the current charge the sole factor in the decision to hold him without bail.
Legal Analysis and Future Considerations
Shoenstein noted that the extensive surveillance footage was crucial to piecing together the suspect's movements. He emphasized that investigators worked quickly to obtain video evidence before it could be lost, going door-to-door to collect any possible footage. The cooperation of Robinson's family member and roommate also proved essential to the rapid arrest, which occurred just over 30 hours after the shooting.
Weber and Shoenstein discussed potential civil liability for Utah Valley University, questioning whether adequate security was provided for an event with a prominent speaker and hundreds of attendees. They explored whether the university could face wrongful death or negligence lawsuits from Kirk's family, as well as claims of infliction of emotional distress from witnesses who experienced the traumatic event.
The attorneys also addressed the possibility of a terrorism charge, given that the alleged motivation appears to be politically driven—an effort to silence Charlie Kirk and potentially others who share his viewpoint. Shoenstein noted that while some online commentary has minimized the seriousness of the crime, he finds it hard to believe a jury would engage in nullification when the victim is a young, famous advocate, unlike the CEO case where some have expressed sympathy for the accused.
Unanswered Questions Remain
Weber emphasized that many questions remain unanswered in the early stages of this case. While the evidence against Robinson appears substantial, the investigation continues. Shoenstein noted he had refrained from public comment until more information became available, criticizing those who speculated about who committed the crime or why before facts were established. Both attorneys stressed the importance of allowing the legal process to unfold and determining whether Robinson is indeed responsible for this heinous act.
Video Transcript
With the arrest of Tyler James Robinson,
the suspect in the killing of Charlie
Kirk, we just got our hands on brand new
court paperwork. We are talking
potential charges. We are talking bail.
We are talking now a new detailed
timeline of events and we are going to
break it down for you in real time.
Welcome to Sidebar presented by Law and
Crime. I'm Jesse Weber.
[Music]
All right, so we're doing something very
different here on Sidebar. We are
breaking down this legal paperwork we
just got our hands on in real time. No
prep. I'm literally looking at this
right now. Um, this is new paperwork
that was just filed in connection with
the arrest of Tyler James Robinson, the
22-year-old who is suspected of killing
Charlie Kirk. Now, what do I have my
hands on? I have an affidavit of
probable cause. I have an order from a
judge denying him bail and then a public
safety assessment report. I'm going to
break all this down in real time. He
hasn't been officially charged yet, but
this is what he has been booked on. I
want to bring on trial attorney Rich
Shoenstein, who's going to break this
down with me in real time. So, we're
both looking at this. Rich, good to see
you. Um, by the way, great background.
Is that real or is that AI? I mean, it
looks like really
Yeah. No, this is this is my real
brother's real house in Columbus, Ohio.
It looks good. Looks good. Okay. So,
what I want to do first is go into this
affidavit of probable cause which led to
his arrest. He is charged and we'll
break down these charge that he is going
to be charged or at least he's been
booked right now on aggravated murder,
felony discharge of a firearm causing
serious bodily injury, obstruction of
justice, capital firstdegree felony
conduct. Before we go any further, Rich,
so basically this is what he could be
charged with. This is what prosecutors
could be seeking. It could be modified
in some way, but um but at this point,
this seems to fall in line with what the
allegations are,
right? I mean, basically the the charges
here are murder, illegal discharge of a
firearm in public where he did it, and
obstruction of justice, which I think
means flight. And as you say, there are
other possible crimes that might or
might not be added later.
And so, let me read through this whole
probable cause statement. Uh, and it
says, "I believe there is probable cause
to charge the defendant with these
charges." Um, and I believe this is from
an arresting officer, although I'll see
at the end. Brian Davis. Okay. Officer's
name. This is in the county of Utah,
state of Utah. Okay. I believe there was
probable cause to charge the defendant
with these charges because the following
information was obtained by your Afen
from police officers, multiple video
recordings posted on social media
websites, Utah Valley University campus
surveillance surveillance cameras, and
those who witnessed the incident. On
September 10th, 2025, Charles James Kirk
was at the Utah Valley University UVU
campus in Oram, Utah for a political
event. Mr. Kirk is a conservative
political activist who was scheduled to
speak at an event in the courtyard area
on the UVU campus. The courtyard area is
to the west of the low sea center
building. According to video recordings,
Charles was wearing a white t-shirt and
and dark pants sitting under a white
canopy in a courtyard of the campus
facing to the east. The event was
attended by hundreds of individuals.
Charles was surrounded by pe with
multiple individuals to his left, right,
and rear and front of the canopy. Behind
the canopy was a walkway used for access
to various parts of the university.
Charles was holding a microphone and
speaking to a crowd. While speaking into
the microphone, a loud gunshot was heard
at approximately 1223 hours and Charles
appeared to have been hit in the neck.
Now, that's interesting because there I
kind of did a separate sidebar on this
about there was speculation whether or
not he was hit in the chest and it
ricocheted uh into his neck, but here he
says it's been hit in the neck. Uh blood
was seen coming out of the left side of
his neck as he fell over to his left.
Charles was transported to Panagos
Regional Hospital in Orum. Apologize if
I'm mispronouncing that. Charles was
pronounced deceased at the hospital.
Investigators reviewed the Utah Valley
University surveillance cameras. While
reviewing the surveillance cameras,
investigators observed an individual on
the rooftop of the Losi Center building
on the UVU campus at the time of the
shooting. Hereafter, the unidentified
individual will will be referred to as
suspect. Based on surveillance camera
footage, suspect appears to be a white
male with dark-colored hair wearing a
dark-colored hat, sunglasses, a long
sleeve black shirt with a picture of an
American flag, and an eagle printed on
the shirt, dark colored jeans, and white
gray shoes with white colored shoelaces.
The shoes appear to be consistent with
Chuck Taylor Converse style shoes. We've
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Suspect is also carrying a dark colored
backpack on his back. Suspect walks with
a distinctive gate. Prior to the
shooting, suspect appears to walk with a
stiff right leg and a relatively slow
pace. Suspect's ability to bend his
right leg appears to be restricted.
Investigators were able to track
suspects movements on the UVU campus
starting at approximately 11:50 hours on
September 10th, 2025. At approximately
11:50 hours, a UVU surveillance camera
first captured suspect walking across a
grassy area north of Campus Drive at
approximately 800 West. By the way, we
knew we knew that there were
surveillance footage, but now we're
really getting this in depth. A suspect
walked south through the parking lot and
approached a pedestrian tunnel that runs
underneath Campus Drive. Before entering
the tunnel, suspect paused at the top of
the stairs and pulled out what appeared
to be a cell phone from his right pocket
using his right hand. At approximately
11:53 hours, suspect eventually put what
appeared to be a cell phone back in his
right pants pocket using his right hand.
Surveillance captured suspect making his
way toward the Losi center. At
approximately 12:02 hours, suspect was
recorded walking on the north side of
the Losi Center building, walking with
the same gate as observed earlier.
Suspect entered the Losi Center building
through a set of doors on the southeast
corner of the Losi Center building at
approximately 12:15
hours. Yeah, let me just change it here.
Suspect was observed walking up to the
stairs that led to the common area
adjacent to the Losi Center building.
Suspect walked to a short concrete wall
that separates the common area from the
rooftop of the Losi center building. At
approximately 1217 hours, suspect
climbed over the short wall and appeared
to crouch down on the north side of the
wall on the rooftop. At approximately
12:22 hours, suspect stood up and
started running across the rooftop of
the Losi center building. The notable
limp from previous surveillance was
absent. Hm. Suspect ran to the west side
of the rooftop and appeared to scoot
along the rooftop area as he got closer
to the edge of the rooftop. At
approximately 12:22 hours, suspect laid
down in a position consistent with a
prone shooting position near the edge of
the rooftop and appeared to be facing
west in the direction of the courtyard
area. The rooftop of the Losi center
building overlooks the courtyard area
where the event featuring Charlie Cook
Charlie Kirk was taking place. The Losi
Center building is east of the courtyard
area. At approximately 1223 hours,
Charlie Kirk was shot. At approximately
12:23 hours, surveillance shows that
suspects stood up suddenly from the edge
of the rooftop and sprinted north on the
rooftop of the Losi Center building.
Suspect ran to the northeast corner of
the building and approached the edge of
the rooftop. Suspect placed a
dark-colored item on the rooftop and
proceeded to lower himself off the
rooftop. Suspect dropped off the rooftop
onto the grass below. Suspect ran north
near the parking lot to the east of the
Losi Center at approximately 12:24
hours. Suspect ran north across the
campus drive road. Suspect appeared to
be carrying an item whose identity is
not clear from the surveillance. So
whether or not it was the weapon, the
area to the north of Campus Drive Road
where suspect crossed over consists of a
grassy area with trees on the edge of
the UVU campus. Investigators discovered
a boltaction rifle wrapped in a
dark-colored towel. The rifle had a
scope mounted on top of it.
Investigators noted inscriptions that
had been engraved on casings found with
the rifle. Inscriptions on a fired
casing read, "Notice bulge. Ow. What's
this?" Inscriptions on the three unfired
casings read, "Hey, fascist catch." An
up arrow symbol, right arrow symbol, and
three down arrow symbols. A second
unfired casing read, "Oh, Bella Chow,
Bella Chow, Bellachow, Chow Chow." And a
third unfired casing read, "If you read
this, you are gay. L M AO." Before we go
any further, so Rich, this is quite
consistent with not only what we heard
from the press conference earlier today,
but it is consistent with video footage
that is circulated on social media. What
is standing out to you about this so
far?
Well, I've seen this video footage. as
you say, it's been making the rounds.
And he walks with a stiff gate
presumably because he has a rifle down
his pants. He gets on top of the
building. He takes the rifle out of his
pants and now he's able to walk more
freely and he crouches down um and
fires. And there are these casings. I'm
not wellversed enough to know what
exactly those casings mean, what they're
references to. I see that they might
I've seen reports they might have some
connection to video games, but I don't
know. But obviously they're of interest
to the investigators. They have uh a lot
of footage. And you know, we live in a
world where if you're out walking
around, you're on a campus, you're in a
neighborhood, you're on film somewhere,
you're on video somewhere, you can't go
anywhere. And they've pieced all of that
together to show this suspect getting on
top of the building and apparently
firing a rifle. A
and the fact that so much of this is
documented, you know, how many times do
we cover cases where there is no
surveillance footage, let alone of the
attack, we all saw the shooting. I mean,
we all saw it unfortunately. uh but to
apparently uh track the shooter's
movements. They talked about in a press
conference yesterday, but to actually
have it detailed, that is uh and we know
that the footage was we know that the
image of this person of interest, the
suspect was released yesterday, that is
very important for prosecutors.
Yeah. Well, and and so listen, this is a
very high-profile, very horrible crime.
This is an all hands on deck situation.
they went door todo to get any possible
video they can. We've seen cases where
it they investigate too late and the
video is lost. So here they got it right
away. You know, they were there the day
of the day after going around the
neighborhood pulling together whatever
video glimpses they could that might
shed some light on this situation. And
it paid off. They got pictures, they got
video. And they also talk they say
investigators also discovered a shoe
impression on the northeast corner uh
rooftop edge of the Losi center
building. The shoe impression was
located in the vicinity where suspect
climbed down from the rooftop. The shoe
impression is consistent with the shoe
sole characteristics of a Converse Chuck
Taylor shoe. They also talked yesterday
about form forearm impressions, excuse
me, palm prints. I believe that has been
sent out for testing as well. Um they're
probably looking to see if it matches up
to Robinson. Um, one thing to note here,
and I was talking about this with Ellie
Honig yesterday, this is before there
was an arrest. Legal liability. You
know, one of the things you have to
wonder is whether or not the university,
and you are a civil trial attorney,
whether the university faces any
liability here in the sidebar I did
yesterday, there were concerns, there
were questions of reports about maybe a
lack in security. Were the tickets being
checked? Were there uh was there a lack
of actual um you know security
detectors? This appeared to be on the
outside though, right? So on the rooftop
is the does the school face any
liability here? You think?
Well, potentially this is going to be
heavily scrutinized. E every facet of
this is going to be heavily scrutinized
to determine if anybody else is
responsible, anybody else is involved,
and anybody else is potentially at fault
from should he have been noticed getting
to campus, getting up on top of a
building, should somebody have seen
that? Was there adequate security for an
event that not only had a prominent
speaker but had hundreds of students and
other people in attendance? Was there
adequate security? I don't know the
answers to any of those questions, but
those questions are going to be asked.
And one of the things we talked about
yesterday was not only a potential
wrongful death or negligence lawsuit
filed potentially by Charlie Kirk's
family, but you know, people around
there who had to witness this very
traumatic event. This is when we always
talk about uh infliction of emotional
distress. I want to move on to that
though. I want to go back to this. So it
says on the evening of September 11th,
2025, a family member of Tyler Robinson
reached out to a family friend who
contacted the Washington County
Sheriff's Office with information that
Robinson had confessed to them or
implied that he had committed the
incident. This information was relayed
to the Utah County Sheriff's Office and
scene investigators at UVU. Again, very
consistent with what we heard from the
press conference today. This information
was also conveyed to the FBI.
Investigators reviewed additional video
footage from UVU surveillance and
identified Robinson arriving on UVU
campus in a Grey Dodge Challenger at
approximately 8:29 on September 10th in
which he in which he is observed on
video in a plain maroon shirt, light
colored shorts, a black hat with a white
logo, and light colored shoes. When
encountered in person by investigators
in Washington County on September 12th,
early morning hours, Robinson was
observed in consistent clothing with the
surveillance images. Wow, Rich, that's
uh that's interesting.
Yeah, that's very interesting and sort
of um you know, if it's true, surprising
that he didn't uh change his clothes
more quickly. And then it says,
"Investigators interviewed a family
member of Robinson who stated that
Robinson had become more political in
recent years. The family member
referenced a recent incident in which
Robinson came to dinner prior to
September 10th, 2025. And in
conversation with another family member,
Robinson mentioned Charlie Kirk was
coming to UVU. They talked about why
they didn't like him and the viewpoints
he had." The family member also stated
Kirk was full of hate and spreading
hate. The family member also confirmed
Robinson had a gray Dodge Challenger.
Investigators identified an individual
as the roommate of Robinson.
Investigators interviewed the roommate
who stated that his roommate, referring
to Robinson, made a joke on Discord.
Investigators asked if he would show
them the messages on Discord. He opened
it and showed several messages to
investigators and allowed investigators
to take photos of the screen as each
message was shown by Robinson's
roommate. These photos consisted of
various messages, including content of
messages between the phone contact named
Tyler with an emoji icon, Robinson's
roommates's device. Uh, the content of
these messages, I'm changing here. The
content of these messages included
messages affiliated with the contact.
Tyler stated stating a need to retrieve
a rifle from a drop point, leaving the
rifle in a bush, messages related to
visually watching the area where a rifle
was left, and a message referring to
having left the rifle wrapped in a
towel. The messages also refer to
engraving bullets and a mention of a
scope and the rifle being unique.
Messages from the contact Tyler also
mentioned that he had changed outfits.
Based on the evidence detailed in this
statement, I believe there is probable
cause that Tyler Robinson committed the
crimes of aggravated murder by shooting
Charlie Kirk in a circumstance that put
many around him at grave risk of death,
felony discharge of a firearm, and
obstruction of justice for moving and
hiding the rifle believed to have been
used in the shooting. Okay, first thing
I want to go through here, Rich. Now you
see why he's being charged with
aggravated murder. There is an
enhancement statute that's listed.
They're basically saying that the reason
that you can get this as I believe a
capital offense, right, the highest
offense in Utah would be this was a
amounted to a danger to others in that
crowd even though there was only one
shot fired at Charlie Kirk.
Yeah, I think that's I think that is why
that's in there. And also it goes to the
issue of bail. Uh there might be other
ways to enhance this in terms of the
capital nature of the crime. I'd have to
look at the particular statute at issue,
but the fact that it seems to have been
politically motivated might be pertinent
as well. Uh but yes, firing essentially
into a crowded event, very dangerous and
probably gets you in enhanced. And one
of the things I talked about with Ellie
yesterday was the idea of maybe
potentially a terrorism quite charge.
What was the purpose of this? Was it to
silence other people? Yeah.
Yeah. That's what I was thinking when I
said political, you know, if if the if
the facts are that the purpose of this
was because of what Charlie Kirk had to
say and an effort to silence people of
that same viewpoint, then it could be
viewed as a form of terrorism. And and
this is similar to Manion. One of the
things the way prosecutors have tried to
enhance that charges even though he's
accused of just shooting and killing
Brian Thompson, it was an inherently
dangerous activity that presented a risk
to others. You know, there was the
nearby bystander. This was in the middle
of a public street. So, this is what
they it seems to be consistent.
Yeah. I've been thinking a lot about how
this is similar to Manion. And I've been
thinking about all of the people who
support
Manioni because they they didn't like
the person he allegedly shot. And I've
been thinking that this is where that
line of thinking gets you. It gets more
people killed.
And are you also thinking about
potentially jury nullification if this
advances towards formal charges and this
advances towards a jury trial? um
whether or not it will be difficult to
get a jury um because of unfortunately
I mean just look at what we're seeing
online right now about people kind of
you know I don't know what the word is
minimali minimizing the idea that a
human being was shot in cold blood.
Yeah, there there's some of that online,
but my thinking is it's a lot you have a
lot better chance of getting jury
nullification where the victim was the
CEO of an insurance company.
Sure.
than where the victim was a young famous
advocate. Even though there are a lot of
people who didn't like his advocacy,
I I find it hard to believe you would
get a jury nullification in that case. I
mean I really I hope I hope very much
you don't of course
and when we talk about that is basically
a jury decides the case not based on the
facts of the evidence but their own
personal opinions their emotions and it
does become a question of jury selection
too about how you get a fair and
impartial jury. We are going a little
down the road here because one of the
things I just, you know, this amplifies
it too and there's a couple more
documents I want to get to, but it
amplifies people stepped up, right? They
reported this to police. You have an
alleged confession. Not only are you
talking about uh particularly important
witnesses during this potential legal
process, this trial, but if it wasn't
for them, would he still potentially be
on the loose assuming he did this?
So, we don't know. We don't know if the
law enforcement effort would have honed
in on him because they did a video
footage. They had some impressions. Um
they might have over time been able to
find him, but yes, uh you know, a family
member and it sounds like there's a
roommate who was helpful in the
investigation
that at a minimum has allowed this to
happen a lot quicker than it might have
otherwise happened.
So, we have a couple more documents
here. Uh, one is an order that has been
signed by Judge Shaun R. Howell. It is
an order to hold without bail based on
the affirmation of Brian Davis, again,
the arresting officer who I mentioned
before. The Understein magistrate finds
that probable cause existed for the
arrest without a warrant of Tyler James
Robinson. The current offense is a
capital felony and the court finds
substantial evidence to support the
charge. Therefore, the court orders that
Tyler James Robinson is to be held
without bail. And just to couple that,
there is a public safety assessment
report. Kind of looks like this. Okay?
And it talks about how the charge of
aggravated murder qualifies for what
they say is PRL5
in red. You go down. PRL5 says if
statutory requirements are met, hold
without bail. if released, maximum
conditions recommended and or monetary
bail. So they believe that this is
serious enough that he should be held
without bail.
Right. And I reviewed that assessment
and u he has no priors according to
that. No prior convictions, criminal or
misdemeanor. So really there's nothing
else that would have compelled holding
him without bail except the seriousness
of the crime. And if you're going to be
accused of shooting somebody in a crowd
in the fashion that happened here,
you're going to get held without bail.
There's no way he would have gotten
bail. Yeah, you're right. There's a It
says risk factors. Age of current event
age of current arrest, 22. Current
violent offense, yes. Current violent
offense and 20 years old or younger, no.
Pending charge at the time of the
offense, no. Prior misdemeanor
conviction, no. Prior felony conviction,
no. Prior conviction, no. Prior violent
offense, zero. Uh, prior failure to
appear in past two years, zero. Prior
failure to appear older than two years,
no. Prior sentence to incarceration, no.
You know, one of the things that's
interesting about this is he is not the
first criminal defendant suspect to be
charged with the most serious offense
that we have on the books, right? And
this is his first apparent crime. Isn't
that always shocking to you? You know,
we talk about it's not always, you know,
a graduation to murder or somebody has a
criminal history. Sometimes when people
commit a crime, it's the worst one yet.
It it it it happens too often to be
shocking to me anymore. There is no
there is no dependable way to know who's
going to commit a crime like this. You
can't base it on the number of times
they've been in trouble with the law or
their socioeconomic background or or any
of the specific traits or their race or
their religion. There there's nothing
that would really tell you somebody
would do something so heinous and so out
of the norm of of human behavior as this
kind of crime.
Um yeah, this is this is really
interesting. Before we wrap things up,
um, were you expecting an arrest this
soon? I mean, it was very interesting
when the press conference happened
yesterday. Um, I was surprised they had
that much information about the
suspected shooter, right? You know, they
talked about the timeline. They talked
about uh the surveillance footage, the
palm prints, and then, you know, there
was some misinformation or confusing
information about who was being
apprehended when, but I think it was a
little over 30 hours that they were able
to make an arrest.
I didn't know what to expect. And I'll
tell you this, Jesse, th this is this is
the first public comments I've made
about this situation. I haven't posted
about it on media. I haven't been on
YouTube or anywhere else about it.
Partly because I didn't feel like I had
enough information to know what was
happening. And I saw a lot of people
speculating on who must have done this
or why they must have done it or what
type of person it must have been. And I
found that to be absolutely outrageous.
And I still don't have enough
information to know for sure if this is
the right person or why this crime was
committed. Um, but we do have a lot more
information. So, I had no expectation of
when this person would be caught because
I didn't know if it was somebody local.
I didn't know if it was somebody
foreign. I didn't know I didn't know who
it was. and and I hope they found the
right person.
There's still a lot of questions, a lot
of questions about this, uh the timing
of it, when he was shot, how he was
shot, um this suspect. So, we're in the
beginning stages of this. And again, we
might be breaking down things in real
time just like this because it just came
out. Uh Rich Showenstein, thank you so
much for taking the time. Good to see
you.
Good to see you, Jesse.
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