Charlie had told his close friends and a lot of it concerned the pressure that was being put on him by Israeli billionaires. I mean, they would have sought to have eliminated him politically or just to remove him. And they were already calling for that. They did not want someone like giving space to anti-Israel critics or just the real mood in this country. They needed to hold the line. >> Tim Dylan just revealed that Charlie Kirk was turning away from his support for Israel in the days and weeks and months leading up to his death and covered that story here in this interview with Max Blumenthal, The Grey Zone. in my mind, one of the most heroic journalists in the world who cites an unnamed source close to Charlie Kirk that said, let's just say interesting things about Charlie's attitude toward Israel and Jewish donors in the days leading up to his death. So, let's get his take on this. Please like the video and subscribe to the channel. Max Blumenthal, editor-inchief of the Grey Zone, thank you very much for coming on. You wrote an article that's going viral. you wrote it with your wife Ana Parmpil um about, you know, obviously this horrific event that happened in Utah and you were describing, you know, firsthand accounts of things that Charlie had told his close friends in the weeks leading up to his death. And a lot of it concerned the pressure that was being put on him by Israeli billionaires. This turn that he makes. >> Do do you have a timestamp on when he's starting to question really Israeli influence in American domestic politics? cuz I'm reading your article and you talk about your source is talking about Charlie kind of starting to question uh the amount of influence that Israel has in US not only domestic politics but foreign politics as well. Do you put this right around the time that we attack Iran? Is this before that? Is this after that? How you know what do you know about his progression? the whole uh grassroots of the conservative movement, everyone under 35 started to question the US-Israel relationship because they were wanted to be America first and they saw Netanyahu just leading Trump around by the balls. They saw Miriam add this Israeli intelligence asset billionaire just calling shots inside the White House. And a lot of them are pro-life and were horrified by the slaughter of babies that they saw in Gaza. So, the bottom dropped out of right-wing youth support for Israel to the point where now only about 25% of Republicans under 35 support Israel over Palestine. So, Charlie Kirk has to answer to his own grassroots base. And you can hear he's starting to make some noises. He's talking about October 7th possibly being an inside job. Israel let it happen in order to carry out long-term political goals. He starts to question whether Jeffrey Epstein was an Israeli Mossad agent at a time when Epstein the Epstein files were becoming an uncomfortable issue for Trump. And it all blew out into the open at TPUSA's July youth summit in um I believe it was Tampa, Florida. Might have been Tallahassee. >> Yeah. Tucker gave the speech. >> Right. >> Right. >> So Tucker gave a speech. I mean that was the seinal moment, but it wasn't just Tucker. Megan Kelly had started questioning Israel and she's on stage calling Jeffrey Epstein a Mossad agent with Charlie uh comic Dave Smith who like myself is a Jewish anti-ionist but he more comes from kind of the libertarian world so he was welcomed on stage to debate a Zionist propagandist who works for Newsweek Joshua Hammer debate. No, that's not something you want especially at this point if you are like a pro-Israel enforcer. Yeah, he's right about this. Everything Max has said about this so far is right. The only reservation I have is when he said that Charlie Kirk was starting to question the October 7th narrative, whether or not, you know, Israel had fornowledge or let it happen. This is actually derived from a Patrick Bed David uh podcast. 5 days after October 7th is where Charlie Kirk makes those remarks. And I'll just show it here. It's this podcast. Uh, sorry, maybe it's hard to see here, but uh you can see it down here if I put the uh if I put it closer. Um, but this is from October 12th, this podcast. Sorry, I'm having trouble organizing it, but this happened 5 days after October 7th. This wasn't a recent thing. And it's noticeable and I think worthy of pointing out that 2 days after that interview where he questions that narrative and he does that part is right is this post from 2 days after that interview on Patrick Bet David where he gives wholesale support for the Israel first narrative doing whatever they want to do in Gaza. You know they have every right to kill every last Hamas terrorist. He unequivocally stands with Israel in its right to defend itself. That's the classic Zionist propaganda line, right? So, it it's not that he started to question that narrative recently. That was way back just days after October 7th. Then he quickly followed it up with unmititigated support for Israel. That's the only reservation I have in what Max said there. Um, that's all I wanted to say. >> And Dave Smith was openly talking about the slaughter of children in Gaza and the the crowd was cheering in this cathartic way. Then Tucker comes out says you should not be you should have your citizenship yanked if you fight for a foreign army. All right. Hundreds and hundreds thousands of American Jewish youth go to Israel and fight for their army instead of our own. So that's a direct blow to not just the Israel lobby but like the whole concept of Jewish communal life as it's understood by its leadership. Then Tucker calls out Bill Aman, who's one of the biggest Netanyahu moneymen inside the US, who's pulling strings at Harvard, getting them getting their funding pulled unless they crack down on Palestine activism. And he questions Bill A, he calls him a scam artist and said, "How did he make $9 billion?" Like, where did it come from? I mean, and Bill Aman the next day he couldn't really answer the question. He published like a 5,000word meltdown Twitter post trying to defend his financial investments. It was just bonkers. I'd never seen anything like it. >> All this to say is that for Charlie Kirk to even entertain these sort of speakers and for them to say the things that they did, not only Tucker Carlson, but Dave Smith, that did seem to piss off a lot of the Turning Point USA donors. I think that was known outside of this unnamed source. I think Charlie had actually told people close to him about that and that makes sense. I buy that part of the story for sure. the October 7th thing. I I think you know he questioned that right away, but this is right on the mark. It's hard to kind of articulate how significant that is for those people, Tucker Carlson and Dave Smith and their mind frames toward Israel and their opinions toward Israel to get a lot of applause. How significant that is considering, you know, the youth is already peeling away from support for Israel. for that to be presented by one of the most impactful people among young conservatives, if not the most, probably the most. That is significant. >> And it was all Charlie Kirk's fault for sanctioning for giving basically the people what they wanted. And after that, he started getting publicly attacked. Ben Shapiro and Mark Levvin, the two biggest Zionist enforcers in the media who are very close to Netanyahu, biggest forces lobbying Trump to wage war on Iran, uh went off on TPUSA, said we can't be having a Big 10 if it includes cooks. Laura Loomer, we all know who she is. She publicly attacked Charlie Kirk and said he basically had to step down. He was getting attacked in pro-Israel media. What we didn't know, what which I learned is in private the pressure was even more intense. He was being bombarded with text messages. And at some point, Netanyahu personally called him and offered to basically fund his organization to new levels that he never even imagined, which meant, you know, Zionist Israeli takeover, complete like recapture of TPUSA, an organization they basically helped create, and Charlie Kirk turned him down. After Charlie Kirk was killed, we know that Netanyahu wouldn't stop posting about him. Like minutes after he was killed when his body was still warm, Netanyahu was posting about him, interrupting his sevenfront war in the Middle East and his global assassination spree where he's he's trying to kill people even inside a US ally in Qatar. >> Okay, so two things about this. Number one, yeah, that unnamed source close to Charlie says that he was feeling immense pressure from his donors, but ch Charlie himself was actually outspoken about that in his interview with Megan Kelly that happened about a month ago. You can take a look at that. I don't have that queued up right now, but in that interview, he talks about that pretty candidly, the pressure he was getting from donors about, you know, his activities, his recent activities. The one thing I want to push back on Max here is talking about the timing of Netanyahu responding to Kirk being shot in the first place. So, let me just share right here. So, Charlie Kirk was shot at 12:23 p.m. Mountain time. This is according to ABC News, but this time has been reported in multiple publications. I cross-checked this the best I could, and this is the traditional time we're going off based upon reports and the FBI and media sites reporting on this. And we have 12:23. So, for the purposes of this video, I'm going to transform that into central time when it comes to talking about this for reasons you'll see in a second, but that's 1:23 Central time. That's where I am. Okay. So Netanyahu said that he was praying for Charlie Kirk at 2:02 p.m. This is in my time zone. This is central time. That means it was 39 minutes after Charlie Kirk was shot. So I don't know about you can say mere minutes. And I'm not saying Max is trying to lie about this or exaggerate or anything. I guess that is mere minutes if we're talking 39 minutes, but it's not as has been alleged by some people that are saying, you know, this is a minute or two after he was shot or things like that. That's not true. And I also want to correct myself because in my reaction video to Ian Carol talking about this, I made a mistake and I thought it was 1 hour and 41 minutes a 1 hour and 39 minutes. Small differential between those two because I didn't take account properly for the time zone difference. I'm not good at math and I dropped the ball on that one. So, apologies on that. But it does look like he sent this message, his first message that he was praying for Charlie Kirk 39 minutes after Kirk was shot. And to try to put that into context, yeah, that was before some prominent people did weigh into this on Twitter and say that they were praying for Charlie Kirk. But I checked a few others and people of prominence like Pete Hegsth and Mike Lee, according to Grock, tweeted about, you know, thoughts and prayers for Charlie Kirk prior to when Netanyahu did it. Ronda Santis did it minutes after. Um, I checked this one specifically on Pete Heg's timeline to confirm it. He did say that at 154. So that was before Netanyahu. I didn't check Mike Le or Ronda Santis these timestamps. I didn't have time to before presenting this uh presentation, but I just wanted to show that for a grander kind of clarification on context here. I don't know if I would have called this, you know, mere minutes afterward. It was 39 minutes. Take from that whatever you will, but it doesn't really match the narrative. Oh, there this definitely indicates fornowledge by Israel. I'm not saying don't talk about that or don't consider that as a possibility. I just don't see it in the Netanyahu tweet 37 or 39 minutes afterward. >> Can you remember any time uh that uh in the history of a political assassination that the leader of a foreign government has come out to deny that they were behind it? I mean, >> I've never seen anything like that, >> right? I mean, yeah. I mean it was so Netanyahu has to ultimately deny that Israel was involved in an interview on Newsmax with Greta Van Sustran. Newsmax is another like institution that Israel controls. Its CEO Chris Ruddy was just in Israel with Netanyahu basically shining his shoes in public. Uh and that's that fuels the speculation. But the real issue was, as we learned from a longtime friend of Charlie Kirk, who had spoken to him, I would say a week or two before he was killed about this. He was afraid of Netanyahu and he was afraid of these billionaire cutouts of Netanyahu who had many of whom had funded his organization. >> So, let me ask, let me let me ask you a question. >> Yeah. >> What would he be afraid of? I mean, obviously, you know, you have an organization that's well funded by people that expect something for their money, right? They're not giving it to you for free. Um, did you get the feeling that he was only afraid of reputational damage or, you know, losing money or did his fears extend to his life? Well, that's what Harrison Smith, who is a personality at Infowars, the proTrump outlet, has said based on a source he spoke to. I don't know him. I don't know what source he spoke to, but he said this on August 13th, so almost a month before Charlie Kirk was killed. He said Charlie Kirk fears that Israel will kill him if he continues ahead um providing space in the largest conservative youth organization in American history which is the institutional grassroots apparatus of Trump and the Republican party. >> Yeah, this is true. I went back and looked at that tweet from Harrison Smith that does exist. He works for Infowars. It's from Infowars. I know Infowars is polarizing, but he did make that tweet. the unnamed source that Max talks about, that is the source for the story that he wrote in the Grey Zone. It's interesting to know whether that's the same source that spoke to Harrison Smith, a source that was close to Charlie Kirk. But here's what I want to say about that is I would hope that source, if they are a friend of Charlie Kirk and loves him, conveys this to his family and tries to let his family know about Charlie's concerns in this regard. You know, turning out up whatever information he has to the family if he doesn't trust law enforcement to investigate that. And honestly, I wouldn't blame them if this would be particularly embarrassing to the USIsraeli relationship, but to convey that to Kirk's family because his family is going to carry a lot of water when it comes to this investigation, how it proceeds and what, you know, the public mind frame is toward, you know, who was at fault for this murder. If you're saying that, you know, it wasn't this shooter or it was this shooter and this shooter had a connection to Israel that they're presenting to us, regardless of what you think the exact scenario is, I hope he conveys that to the family because what the family does and what the family thinks is telling. Martin Luther King's family began to doubt the official narrative of the FBI. I can't exactly blame them for that about King's assassination, too. You know, Martin Luther King was being wiretapped under Co-intel Pro by Hoover. He suspected that rightly during his life and then the FBI under Hoover tried to have him off himself. They presented him with this memo with blackmail tapes supposedly containing his adulterous liaison and saying you know what to do king. There's only one choice in front of you. You're an embarrassment. You can read this that that memo is released that is has been released since I think the '9s. that has been available to read and King suspected that it was the FBI. This is just a long way to say that his family began to doubt the FBI narrative and that has conceptualized a lot of what the public thinks about that assassination and a civil jury determined that the FBI was at fault for King's death at some point in the '90s. I think it was 95. So, this is going to carry water with his family. I hope that unnamed source goes to his family, implores them to look into this because law enforcement might not >> for Israel critics and even anti-Zionists. So that I I didn't say that. I don't have an there's I see I can't see any hard material evidence that Israel had him killed, but there's this fear when you go against the Israel lobby and you're that powerful. And it's a fear that I've been told Donald Trump shares. >> Yes. Well, Max Blumenthal, do you um the source that you spoke to, I guess, for this piece, does that source believe that there's any potential, and I don't know if you covered this or not with the source, do they believe there's any potential that in any way um forces outside of this gunman were responsible for Charlie Kirk's assassination. I don't know if you covered that or not. >> I mean, I I state clearly in this piece that I have no evidence of an Israeli government. >> Yes. Did the I understand that. Did your source, who was a highly placed Trump confidant of some kind, did do they I don't know if you can make an inference or if they had said anything to you, but like were they considering that as a possibility? Yes. I would say they're they don't accept the official story or no one even knows what the official story is. >> So a highly placed >> Yeah. Generally, we don't know the full story yet. We, you know, know the alleged shooter. Some things about his background are trickling out. And for the record, I have the same mentality toward this as Max Blumenthal. I don't have any evidence to suggest that Israel ordered this hit. And actually, I would be suspicious of people that are so dead set into thinking that, having the information only that we have now. I can understand leaning in that direction or wanting to talk about it or willing to entertain the notion based on Charlie's sentiments and you know supposed turn. I think turn is personally not the right word. I think it was skepticism or the beginnings of skepticism toward that. This is not a turn like Candace Owens or Tucker Carlson portrayed. That's for sure. But I think Blumenthal is doing the responsibility and doing the responsible thing here because I don't think anyone dug into that mentality that this had to have been Israel 100% no matter what. No other scenarios are possible. I have not seen any attempt by those people to try to connect Israel either to this shooter or an alternative shooter that was the actual hitman in this shooting. And personally, I have no reason to doubt that the kid that they did caught, you know, didn't take the shot. I I see no other evidence that it was an alternative shooter. I'm not saying it's possible. You know, we all saw what happened with the investigation of Kennedy. I just haven't seen that presented. And to be so sure about that narrative, I think is wrong. But still, let's talk about these things. Let's talk about this unnamed source and the things that Max is investigating because that is important. Regardless if you are sure of whether Israel was culpable at all for this, I think that's the responsible thing to do. person in the Trump inner circle doesn't believe the official story of Charlie's murder. >> I mean, no one does, but I would just say that the the phrase I remember hearing is it feels like there's more at play here. And I, you know, I'm that's not the only person with more power than me in Washington that I'm hearing that from, but I again, >> so you're hearing from multiple people that are connected and tapped in that they believe that there's more at play or more to the story than simply one radicalized young man. I heard subsequent to publishing this story from another source who I would describe as a uh administration insider that corroborated the account in this story. First uh that uh Charlie Kirk was actively and aggressively personally lobbying Trump against bombing Iran in June. and two that right now the FBI is not being forthcoming and there's a lot of frustration with the FBI uh not sharing information. >> So because I mean just to reiterate again you're not a nut, you're a reporter. People may disagree with you. You're anti-sionist. So there's a lot of people that are going to, you know, say that you're a little paranoid when it comes to Israel and that Israel is behind everything. I'm just saying this is not what I'm saying. I'm saying this is an attack that you've probably faced before, but you're a reporter. You're not a nut. You're not a crazy person. You grew up in Washington DC. You have connections to a lot of these people. You have sources. And you're not speaking to schizophrenics on the street. You're not talking to crazy people. You know, you're not the this is not things you're getting off message boards or a Discord. You're talking to people in the no that believe there's more to the story. Um, that's pretty shocking. I I I can only say that I wrote this. I mean, some people want to say the there was this prefabricated narrative on the right that the killer was a leftist or a a Muslim. They clearly wanted that. Now, you know, people on the left are saying he was a groper. who I I don't know what will be the case, but the reason I wrote this story was because I was able to get this background about Charlie Kirk and what was happening in his life and what was coloring his final days and the kind of pressure he was under which tells a larger story about Israeli influence in the United States. And that's just an issue I've been covering for years. So that >> yeah, he's been one of the best in America at covering that issue, by the way. And he's right. both, you know, forces on the left and right had pre-manufactured narratives to go with on this shooting before they had even named a suspect. By the way, that is true. You know, at one point it was a trans it was going to be a trans guy for sure on the that's what I kept seeing on on the right. This groper narrative on the left there there was people so desperate to paint this guy into their own ideal view to push a political agenda to weaponize the state against their opponents. And that's one of the most poisonous and toxic things about this whole story if you ask me. But I do want to back up what Max said. This is what Charlie Kirk said, you know, about the prospect of regime change in Iran. And it was widely reported of how much he pushed back against this to the point of going to Donald Trump. And he wasn't the only one that did this. Tucker Carlson did this, too. People of prominence told uh Trump not to do this. Steve Bannon as well. He rails against the prospect of regime change. And this isn't even the most incendiary tweet. It's just the one I could find right now. But Glenn Greenwald produced a different tweet that I covered in my previous reaction video where he really doubled downs uh doubles down on saying that we can't launch this regime change for wararm mongers that have been part of the Washington scene for far too long. It's disastrous and it's not America first. That is significant, too. I have to say it. I just wanted to confirm that Max isn't just, you know, bloiating there. >> That's why I reported this story. Yeah, >> I didn't I didn't report this story to prove that Israel has a direct role in his assassination. But there is a real reason why many people who are not able to talk to people in with any proximity to power believe that is the case and it's because the way Israel is conducting itself final. >> Yeah, it's hard to blame him for that. Again, I have no problem talking about this. I think it's wrong for people to want to shut down this angle and shut down this conversation. I haven't bought in and I think the narrative is kind of sloppy and based on a lot of assumptions and jumps to conclusions to some extent, but I can't ignore the fact that Charlie was becoming more skeptical toward Israel as it got closer to his assassination. I still don't like the term turn. I don't think he completely turned against Israel. And that's seen both in recent interviews with Megan Kelly and Ben Shapiro. A lot of the clips going around regarding those shows do seem compelling. And there's some compelling things to those shows in isolation, but when you watch those full episodes, there's a lot of doubling down on Israeli propaganda in both of those episodes, too. The one with Shapiro and the one with Kelly where, you know, Kirk denies that, you know, Israel is starving children in in uh Gaza. He denies it's a holocaust. He talks about with Ben Shapiro how, you know, this left-wing narrative about how Israel is killing so many people and killing so many babies is wrong. They talk about that in those shows. I watched the full episodes going down the rabbit hole on that. So, that's all I wanted to say there. question to you. In a hypothetical world, in a hypothetical world, we're not and I'm not I know you're a reporter, so it's hard to entertain this knowing what you know about the the what we talked about about now is the moment and now is the time and everybody needs the money and you know, everybody needs this this Iran regime change and you know, everyone obviously that has that that perspective and that interest that you know, Netanyahu and AD, all these people in a hypothetical world. Would the head of a campus organization that is hugely influential in grassroots political organizing and fundraising? Do you think, and again, this is this is not to not not to say there is evidence of this because obviously you have none of it. In a hypothetical world, would how dangerous is a Charlie Kirk to the people you're talking about? How dangerous is him making a turn on Israel? How substant how substantive and dangerous is that? And in a hypothetical world, is it dangerous enough where you would have to eliminate him in some way? >> Well, I think uh if he had gone further than he was going and continued to give voice to the grassroots of his own organization, they would have eliminated him, but not physically. I mean, they would have sought to have eliminated him politically or just to remove him. And they were already calling for that. Ben Shapiro, who's now running around saying he was Charlie Kirk's best friend, said uh just days, I think it was just days before Charlie Kirk was killed, he said that you can't be at the front of the church giving space to cooks. And >> yeah, I agree with Max on this 100%. If he had truly turned much further, this would have been a weapon against the Zionist regime and the Israel lobby apex control over the populace, our political system, the Israel first mentality in general. That would have I just don't see that turn manifesting that much. I do see skepticism on his part entertaining the notion that Epstein may have been an intelligence asset. In the statement I've seen on that, he lists several possibilities, including Mossad and including an American intelligence asset. You know, that enough is incendiary enough to be called an anti-semite in some circles. So, I'm with him on that. Um, but yes, I do think this would have been incredibly substantial to the turn against Israel that many young Americans are making. It might have exacerbated that on the right to a degree farther than what's happening now. Did Charlie Kirk nearly turn on Israel to the extent like Candace Owens and Tucker did? No, you you saw some inklings of that, but again, a lot of the interviews had things that were very pro-Israel in it, too. And not everyone gets redpilled on Israel day one. I certainly didn't, by the way. It's bits and pieces. Maybe that was happening with Charlie, but Charlie was transparent about, you know, many things regarding the pressures he was feeling. That's true. And he was also repeating pro-Israel propaganda on those shows as well with Ben Shapiro. That clip that's circulating about how he asked Ben Shapiro if we can trust the media about everything coming out of Israel and they say, "Well, Ben Shapiro's eyebrows raise a large amount, so Israel had to have committed this murder." I just I think that's such a stupid jump to conclusions. Ben Shapiro, I hate to say I've watched his show sometimes, mostly to mock him and ridicule him because I hate neocons. I shouldn't even say hate because I'm called as a Christian to love my enemies and pray for my enemies, but I despise his political opinions. And he raises his eyebrows a lot on inquiries to basically every kind of guest. And again, in that podcast, Charlie says a lot of pro-Israel things. Just saying. >> And then just a few days later, when Charlie Kirk was at the front of the church, he was struck in the neck by a sniper bullet. And then Ben Shapiro within 24 hours said, "Well, he's going to go on his own campus tour and pick up the bloody microphone that Charlie Kirk left for us." So they they did not want someone like giving space to anti-Israel critics or just the real mood in this country. They needed to hold the line. So I don't I don't know. I I think there are easy way easier ways to get rid of someone and cleaner ways than assassination. I've been the target of that >> for many years, but for sure. And he was a gigantic threat >> to Israeli control over the Republican party. Maybe the biggest threat since Trump has proven so easy to uh move and manipulate and so so afraid. Um I mean, we can't overestimate Charlie Kirk's importance to the Trump machine and to the Republican party. He was sort of a a a unique figure and I don't think he can be replaced. It will also be interesting to see who steps into his wake and I I think I I might be having more I might have more to report on this by the way. So >> well great I can't wait to see it. Again I agree with him 100% there. I don't necessarily think Charlie Kirk has more sway than Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens. He might on young people. He probably does on young people, but in terms of conservatism in general, moving that needle and moving the Overton window, I think Owens and Tucker Carlson have it more on this issue on Israel. Among younger people, Charlie certainly did, but it's helpful to note too that younger people are moving away from Israel organically regardless of the Charlie Kirk thing, regardless of, you know, this murder. And you know, going with the political headwinds is something that multiple people that were pro-Israel had done and ha have been doing. You see it now with Megan Kelly starting to ask more questions. Still repeating Israeli propaganda, but just having Marjorie Taylor Green on her show was enough to say, "Hey, you know, you're anti-Semitic. You're against us now. You need to feel this pressure." She's talked about that, too. The threats she's getting and the texts. In talking to Charlie, she talked about that a month ago. So, yeah. I I love how Max is treating the story. He's doing it responsibly. He's not jumping to conclusions, but he's saying, "Hey, there's some interesting things here with this unnamed source and what he's saying." And again, I hope the family pursues that. And the unnamed source goes to the family and has a private investigation done, turning over whatever he has to look into this thing. Because yeah, you cannot trust the FBI to tell the truth about investigations of political assassinations, especially those that might be embarrassing to America's greatest ally in the Middle East. That's for sure. So, there's a lot to see here. I'm not sold on the Israel did it 100%. No other scenarios are even remotely possible that narrative whatsoever. It is worth talking about. I'm glad for this interview Tim did a good job, presented some good evidence. I only had a few reservations with some of the ways that Max portrayed some things. I tried to do my best to show that and dispose of some other things in my previous videos, but I'm just trying to call balls and strikes, be as most responsible as I can about handling these things on an individual basis. Some things I think are compelling, some aren't. And the most uncompelling things are people that are so dead set in this narrative without trying to even connect this to the shooting itself with whether you think it was the shooter they apprehended and are saying is the shooter or some alternative shooter. I've never seen anyone make a connection to Israel and the actual shooting. They're just going off circumstantial things based on shifting sensibilities that Charlie had. I don't portray it as a turn. I think it's an increased increased skepticism for reasons I laid out, but definitely worth reporting. I hope more comes from this. And for whatever it's worth, Candace Owens, who is a very good friend of Charlie Kirk, does doubt the veracity of the traditional narrative and Israel's relation to it. and she has said, "Hey, Benjamin Netanyahu needs to release the full, you know, email message he received from Charlie recently, who she believes he's misportrayed and he's certainly propagandized along with Ben Shapiro to try to recapture the American right, you know, make Charlie into a totally pro-Israel martyr." And, you know, parts of Charlie's past were that. I think that that's accurate. That's the biggest problem I had with Charlie in terms of policy. Certainly. So he doubled down on defending Israel when I thought it was, you know, ghastly to do so. And I hate to speak ill of someone recently dead, I'd be saying the same thing. If it was a leftist I disagree with other things on and they died and we were talking about the same things. But there you have it. That's my take, but I want to hear yours down below. Is Max Blumenthal right? Was Israel involved in this? If you're so dead set on this, what was the connection between the shooter? Regardless of if you think it's the one they apprehended or not or someone else, let me know in the comments down below. Otherwise, how are you so dead set that this absolutely happened without the shadow of the doubt? I want to know down below. Let me know. Please like the video, subscribe to the channel, subscribe to Tim. Awesome guest. I love Max Blumenthal. 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