Tucker Carlson and Charlie Kirk Expose the Real Battle for America's Soul and Future

and I did not stter when I said that I'm going this is so cool I went thank you for having [Music] me ah thank [Music] you this is our this is our seventh night on the road across the country and I I came uh decided to you know leave my Lair and head out for a month for two reasons uh one because you cannot censor a live event um which I'm grateful for and two because I I just wanted to feel better about the country that I love and it's worked it's unbelievable it's true in fact I always think to myself I don't we moved out of a city about 5 years ago and I thought I hate cities I'm never going back to a city again they're all awful and this is our seventh City and they've all been great I I got to I mean I it's incredible Witchita I've wound up in Witchita a lot in my life I know a lot of people here I'm not exactly sure why but I've I've had a wonderful time every time I've ever been here we in Kansas City Tulsa Colorado Springs they're all great and then I realized really it's just New York and LA are awful and every other place is pretty excellent so thank you you forget that because if you read the news or watch the news basically all news is filtered through Los Angeles and New York which are obviously cesspools um and so you get the impression that everything else is like that but it's not like that at all the country is not insane people are really nice they're not mad at each other they're they love each other um and you you lose track of that if your reality is filtered I can't hear what you're saying but I agree with you I know that but yeah it was making me too frustrated um the news coverage of America um and one of the questions I had uh that I haven't really resolved is how did I get in journalism like it's disgusting how did I wind up here um I was just thinking that the other day I cannot believe I do this for a living how did and actually the honest answer is because I couldn't get another job and um I hadn't done well in college I didn't have a college degree I was getting married my father-in-law was insistent that I have gainful employment stickler and um so I applied a bunch of places they turned me down I don't think they've been bothered to respond and so I went to my father and I said you know what should I do he had been a journalist and he said you should you know go into journalism they'll take anybody um that's actually what he said and that's actually why I went I went primarily cuz it seemed kind of interesting and you could see the world and listen to people and hear cool stories and have experiences you could tell your grandchildren about not that they'll listen but you could at least I was there um but really went into it because it's easy that's the truth it's easy journalism I mean you don't have to do anything you have no real skills you just repeat what people tell you and if I'm being completely honest and I think I am for like about 25 years out of 33 it really was the easiest job ever ever because politics is not complicated and listing to people and recording what they say is not hard it's not actually we have machines that can do it now um this was pre AI about maybe eight years ago it became very difficult and not just because I realized that everyone else in the business with me was repulsive but on a deeper level which I did realize um and I told them and then they fired me again and again um no the real reason it became no I don't no you you should never brag about being fired but I've been fired so often that I just have no choice making a virtue out of a necessity um no the reason that the the well I love you too thank you no the reason it became hard is because I no longer understood what was happening in the news I lived in Washington for 35 years I covered politics very very simple very simple business to cover because there are two parties each one wants power in order to get power each one makes Promises to the voters who are the source of their power of course um in a country that's claims to be Democratic constitutional republic all power derives from the consent of the government because they own the country not the politicians and so it well that's just that's just a fact I'm just repeating back to you your founding documents and so it's very very simple each side every two or four or six years gets up and says if you vote for me I'll give you this and the other side says no no no I'll give you more and the person you know who makes the better case about how they're going to improve the lives of the people who vote wins and then we can assess whether they actually did what they were going to say around eight years ago at least one party and to some extent both parties but certainly one party stopped making that case stopped pretending that they were going to improve the lives of the people who lived here and instead started saying out loud and now they're shouting it if you elect us we're going to make things much worse for you and actually we're going to punish you and all the things that you want we're going to give you none of them and instead we're going to give you the things that you fear most like going extinct and they just started to kind of say that and all of a sudden I became completely confused how could you run for office on the promise that if you vote for me you'll be less likely to have grandchildren truly really the one thing that every middle-aged person wants is grandchildren no you'll have less you you actually were against having children at all like the one thing that brings you Joy particularly in old age your descendants we're going to do everything we can to prevent you from having that and by the way we're also one of the things you probably enjoy uh is eating um but we're going to prevent you from doing that by like provoking famines around the world what I'm watching this I'm thinking what could possibly be the impulse Behind These policies every single policy whether it was climate change transgenderism abortion whatever all of it was designed to reduce the number of people on the planet and that's really a weird impulse for people to have and then today I learn and this is completely consistent with everything we've seen that we are very close to a nuclear exchange with the foreign power because the B demonstration is on the cusp of sending missiles into Mainland Russia including Moscow and kind of no one is debating this or talking about it in fact I think we're not even allowed to talk about it you just have to ignore it well and I'm not going to get into too much Deale because I don't want to be depressing and by the way there there is an upside to this whole story which I'll get to in just a second but right now we are provoking this country that we're not actually supposed to be at war with or not technically at war with into launching nuclear weapons in response and once that happens you know of course um we're done because you can't recall a nuclear missile there's no capacity on that once they're launched they land and we have no way to shoot them down and so once they're on the way we're done and the destructive power of them is is so much beyond what most people understand it Bears no resemblance at all to what happened in the summer of 1945 in Japan it's you know 100x that so we really are flirting with like Extinction right now so I um realized this this morning based on conversations that I had uh with people outside the country and I thought this is just absolutely nuts so I called a bunch of people who I thought could kind of get the word out and they were like oh yeah okay yeah nobody was willing even to entertain that reality it was like really but there you know inflation that's I no no you don't understand we're on the verge of a nuclear exchange yeah okay anyway and then change the subject and I thought to myself maybe it's just too dark for people to fully accept and then I thought but what would be the impulse behind this and this is the point of what I'm saying the impulse behind all of these different policies is in no sense political this is not politics I would say it's not even human and here's why I say that because the goal of every animal species including people is to send their genes continuing through history it's to reproduce right that is evolutionary biology in one sentence our main impulse is to pass our genes On to the Next Generation and the generation Beyond and all animals behave that way you dogs do not commit suicide or genocide period whatever they may you know what I mean they may make a mess out in your rug but they're not going to do anything intentionally that gets in the way of passing on their genes that is their goal that is the goal of every animal species that's the natural goal that is life actually as described by naturalists that's nature and so if you see any kind of movement that would even potentially stop people from passing on their genes you know you're not dealing with nature you're dealing with something above or outside of nature you're not dealing with the natural you're dealing with the Supernatural and so any movement that seeks to convince people not to have children or eat or who provokes Wars for the sake of killing we often say well these people are all making money on worse true much deeper than that if you're getting to the brink of nuclear war and that isn't so horrifying to you that you do whatever you can to stop it because of course it would mean the end of humanity if your instant gut response is and we can't have that whatever it takes to prevent that we're going to do now because of course Our obligation is to Future Generations it's not to ourselves it's to people yet unborn human beings yet unborn if that's not your gut reaction then you're being controlled by something outside the human realm because that's not natural that is the most unnatural Instinct you can have now I'm not approaching this as a theologian which I hardly am I'm an Episcopalian from Southern California so you you know I'm not writing any theology books okay um I'm approaching this from a rational standpoint what's the other explanation how could Tony blinkin at the state department and Joe Biden in the white house I'm assuming Joe Biden even exists at this point um I mean he does in some literal sense how could every single one of their policies be antihuman is that an accident I don't think it is actually I think what we're seeing here is a manifestation of the spiritual battle that's been described by every civilization since the beginning of time and again I just want to say that I'm not saying that as you know someone who's so Pious and faithful as a Christian that you should follow my example please don't I'm saying that is someone who is searching for another explanation and I can't find one because there is no rational explanation for what we're seeing now there is none you're encouraging people not to reproduce no human being would ever encourage other human beings not to reproduce again is there any precedent for that in the animal world I know that we're encouraged not to pay attention to animals that's another thing that I have noticed and to ignore nature completely completely you can't even see the stars in most places because of the light pollution but we are absolutely encouraged to ignore the the natural world that's the message of our design of the buildings that our leaders build of the lives that they encourage us to live stay indoors addicted to the screen addled on ssris just don't notice everything around you and I think one of the reasons that they encourage that is because if you did pay any attention at all to the natural world you would know that what we're going through right now is not natural at all so I think that's the way to think about it and I will leave it to you and your individual religious practices on how to respond to that but I will just say that there's another side to the story which gives me hope and the reason that I am going to sleep like an animal this evening as I always do is the following so what we're looking at is evil we're not looking at you know a competing set of ideas or ideology or communism I mean there are a lot of communist inspired ideas but communism itself never made sense as an ideology it's not an ideology it's an anti-human Impulse that comes from some outside Source obviously whenever you're killing large groups of people for no reason you're clearly being inspired by something Supernatural I mean let's just be honest about it so we're seeing evil that's very shocking to a lot of people it's shocking to me at least once a day for the past five years I thought I cannot believe how much evil there is in the world one thing I have not thought of at all until very recently which is even more surprising and no one ever says it is how much good there is in the world which also doesn't make sense by the way so so if like me you bought into this the frame The evolutionary biology framework for understanding people why do people do the things that they do well to preserve themselves and their descendants right right I think all Americans were raised believing that we've been doing this since you know cave times here's why we do it there is no rational explanation for altruistic love between people there is no way that science can describe or Justify what you see every day which is people giving of themselves not for not for any conceivable benefit at all to other people including people they're not related to including people they don't even know why are they doing that there's no rational explanation that science cannot tell you why they do that there's no benefit to them at all and in fact in a rational world if the scientific framework were real which it's not it's totally fake but let's just say it were how could you explain that how does that help you to give your money to someone you don't even know to listen really carefully to someone just to make that person feel better to make that person feel connected to display empathy what's the advantage in that no Advantage at all and yet you see it constantly all the time around you and I think you see it more now than you ever have in other words one of the reasons that I despite being bewildered and shocked by what we're watching all around us wake up in a good mood every single day is because I think that the evil that we see is being more than counterbalanced by the good that's suddenly erupting all around us I feel that in this room I felt it in every place we've traveled around the country every morning I wake up and I think boy you know this country's got all these problems and some of them are very very severe you know not just that they're eating the pets which I do think is a problem um and the most hilarious thing ever said by the way Trump will never get credit um for just being an amazing if they're eating the pets I I that was the highlight for me first of all cuz it I don't know it's exactly true they're not eating the pets they're sacrificing the pets in witchcraft ceremonies actually um that's true but um so the country does have a lot of problems actually immigration is by far the biggest problem there's a higher percentage of people born outside the country living in this country now than at any time that makes and every one of them could be a noble a future Nobel Prize winner and it doesn't matter because it destabilizes the country completely and it makes it really hard for 350 million of us to have anything in common and to hang together as a country so it's a really dangerous thing to do it's a destructive thing to do there's no justification for doing it other than to destroy what other people built which is what's happening so of course that's incredibly sad to watch really really sad if you're from here and if like me you plan to die here you don't have another passport want to be buried with my parents you know what I mean like most people um if you're really vested in this country if you've burned your boats or if your ancestors did um it's very very sad and it's scary s but I'm still in a good mood because I feel again all around me this Resurgence of much deeper connection between people and it comes after the saddest four years probably since the Civil War where the people in charge stayed up late figuring out how to divide us from the people that we love most from our families I mean the whole point of covid actually was to blow up your family and in some cases that worked and if you watch the news during that whole period they would tell you you know when you go home for Thanksgiving you may have some elderly racist relatives and you should scream at them at the table um and if you're a good person you will and in fact if you're a really good person don't even ever talk to them again because it's not a cult trust me just cutting you off from your family not a big deal which by the way was the greatest crime committed during covid that was the greatest crime I I personally think the a was a crime I think history will will prove that um but I'm not even going to have that debate out of respect and sympathy for people who took it um I mean that actually a lot of people I love took it I've never met anyone who didn't take it who regrets not taking it is there anyone here who didn't take it who feels really bad about not taking it probably not um so without even getting into the whole the co V I think the greater crime even you know the crimes that you do to the spirit are of course much more grave than the crimes you do to the body and the crime that was committed in this country against us it's people was the division that was manufactured that was engineered between family members and those mandates and the the fear that was generated the hysteria that was generated was designed I believe it's very obvious in its effect to blow apart relationships between people and it worked and if you're wondering well how do you know what the motive was well of course I don't I can't prove it but I'm old enough now quite Advanced age to have decided that the effect is the motive actually the effect is the motive in other words if you keep doing something again and again and it has the same effect you can tell me you plan to have another outcome but I don't believe you and I don't need to believe you because I judge a tree by its fruit and if you cause something again and again and again whether you know it or not you meant to cause that and you can be held responsible responsible for it and the net effect of that whole period from the day that George Floyd Odi on fenel outside the convenience store in Minneapolis until now has been to blow apart the most important and sacred thing that we have which is the relationship between each other that's the whole point of life is to love the people around you and anyone who makes that harder is a criminal in in the deepest sense and so like a lot of people in this room you know I experienced that I feel like I've gotten off pretty easy in this life relative to what I deserve probably but um but even I you know had that experience I'm sure every single person in this room had an experience where you know you lost people you love the relationship between someone you really loved or were related to was damaged by that whole period you probably lost like me I lost every acquaintance like no one I had lunch with 10 years ago would even return my text at this point um and I think that's not super uncommon even for those of you who haven't alienated the world on cable news um and so that's really sad for me because what I really care about much more than Carmela Harris or whatever she's calling herself is my relationships with other people so that's all very sad and I'm saying it because I think that most people in this room I think most Americans can relate to exactly what I'm talking about but I'm saying it as a kind of predicate to what I'm going to say now which is the upside those relationships have been replaced tenfold with relationships that are much deeper I mourn the death of my relationships I don't care who it's with I I missed the valley Parker after I got my car back but the relationships I now have are so much deeper and so much more honest and so much more fully grounded in truth than any relationships I've ever had before and as I said I I grew up in Southern California so I was trained from a very young age to be shallow I mean really from birth and and the world that I grew up in you know a dinner table conversation like a full dinner table conversation and we ate very fast in Southern California in the 70s cuz it was all fast food but like all the whole six minutes of dinner um in the car would consist of sorry it's not the Midwest you know we had we had things to do and the main thing that we had to do um the main thing that we had to do in Southern California was to talk about the weather and like we had days that would go from 73 and partly cloudy all the way up to 75 and and sunny and then it would go back to partly cloudy and and in the in the low 70s and so that really was the substance of the conversations taking place all around me for my entire childhood and I'm not joking at all if you lived in San Diego in 1980 you know what it was like like nobody had a last name and nobody talked about anything that mattered ever and if you did you were a freak you were a Freak no one died where I grew up not one person ever died there was no death period none and there was an incredibly wide Strike Zone on like personal sexual behavior so if you were like a polygamist or something totally cool wow that's interesting really you know it's going to be 76 tomorrow did you know that yeah really wow so here's a fact that's going to wreck your day every time you use the internet you are being watched nothing is private 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the universe and maybe life ends and no one one wanted to deal with that at all ever not one time so for me raised on a steady diet of shallowness it has been an amazing and life-changing experience to have really deep conversations with almost everybody I talked to and I just want to say that that is not just an upside that's the whole point that is why we're here there's no other reason to be here and you know having gone up and down in my financial fortunes you know pretty low pretty high I can tell you you know it's bad to be in debt for sure but like making money does not make you happy sorry spoiler alert someone told me the other day that and I can never even remember her name but she's like a deeply tormented pop star who just endorsed Harris whatever her name is Megan Kelly told me last night that she's made a billion dollars a billion dollars and I thought to myself I may even have said it like then why isn't she happy why is she so miserable she made a million dollars don't a billion dollars don't you sort of retire and just smile until you die in fact you never die actually you live forever if you make a billion dollars and she's so miserable I've never heard a word of her music um but I just look at her and I'm like wow you hate yourself it's bad Carmela Harris same thing you hate yourself I feel deep sympathy for I did until I found out she had a gun and now I feel a great threat she has a gun who armed Carmela Harris no what kind of gun is it what side does the bullet come out where' she get it does she have a license for that what's she planning to do with it what is a person who's surrounded by armed bodyguards I'm paying for 24/7 need with a firearm you're doing a lot of grous hunting Carmela what anyway these are questions that no one in the media will ever ask I think they're super interesting like why not sorry to get sidetracked but I guess what I'm saying is there is a way to look at what's happening around us that will only defeat you and turn you into the hateful monster they accuse you of being that is true and one of the things I've learned only recently having been denounced as a whatever you know you name it I've been called it um I only realized recently that part of the reason that they call people names is so that people will become those things if they treat you with that level of contempt and unfairness it's totally possible you will become hateful actually like you'll become what they say you are and that's the one thing that you can't become you cannot be hateful because then you'll just be Taylor Swift or Carmela Harris like another tormented unhappy person with no kids projecting hate outward toward everyone else and don't be that that's not only is that bad for the country it's bad for you so how do you keep from becoming that and here's one trick that has really worked for me I don't know what you said but I love that was like an animal growling and I loved it I believe in Animal Sounds by the way as someone who talks for a living I I'm a little bit unsold on words but if you go like that I know you're being sincere like I trust my dogs they never lie to me you know but here's the point one way to see reality is through the lens that you know most of us perceive it through which is our phone it's literally a lens it's a piece of glass and we're staring at it and everything on it is curated and at some point you have to wonder like why are they telling me this is there some reason maybe they're not being totally honest and one of the reasons of course is to distort you as a person and turn you into a monster like they are of course another reason is to despit you so they can control you so you just give up completely but above all it's really to break your spirit of course it's to humiliate you that's why Joe Biden hired that press secretary you know what I mean I I was confused by that at first I was like wait a second the job of the press secretary is to talk but you're illiterate so wouldn't you be the last person like I'm dyslexic okay very dyslexic If you hired me to do your taxes that would be an act of self harm like you'd have to want to go to jail to hire me to do your tax cuz I can't so if you're hiring Karine jier for a job that requires talking maybe there's something else going on here and I'm not being I don't want to be mean at all I say this with great sympathy but this is someone who's so dumb she can't operate a toaster like I I I can't believe she can breathe unated like this is truly a stupid person who has that kind of amazingly modern combination of low IQ and high self-esteem which is always bewildering to me Studies have shown this that the dumbest people think they're the smartest like I'm a I'm a historic first really you're a okay but anyway but so what's the point of that you would have to really try to get someone that in articulate to be your spokesman notice the word spoke is in the word and then I realized no once again the outcome is the motive it's this way for a reason and the reason is to make you feel bad about your country like this country is so screwed up they have someone who can't speak English talking to me about what my government is doing and I can't understand what she's saying and she hates me yeah that's the point so that can drive you crazy and it's meant to drive you crazy so the only way not to become a monster and crazy and I've come right to the edge of both so I'm speaking from experience is to see the reality that's actually around you not through your phone but around you and yes that very much includes nature and it very much includes animals okay spending time with animals is medicine it's true that's just true but the most important thing is to take stock of the people in your orbit and they are what matters much more than anything that happens in Washington or anything that comes across social media the people right around you and if you're looking for your duty in this life like what's the purpose of my life why what am I here for fewer people ask those questions than ever before but you you still hear them it's super obvious like the person in bed next to you called your spouse and the children you created and your siblings and your parents and your co-workers and your neighbors and your nieces and nephews and your drunk brother-in-law and everyone who God has put right in front of you your job is to serve and love them that's your first job that's your main job and it's wild to me how distorted that has become again probably not an accident by people who preach about altruism they're like no really the point of life is to serve the community or someone in some country you've never visited and send mosquito Nets to some Far Away none of which I guess I'm against but only after every person in the concentric circles of the orbit around me I'll speak for myself as a head of household only after all of them are thriving and only after I've served all of them to the maximum extent of my ability am I going to be sending mosquito Nets to some other country only after I have tipped my baguer waitress 50% am I going to think about serving someone I've never met because the point of love is not abstract it's concrete and if you love someone whose name you don't know maybe it's not love maybe it's narcissism actually maybe you're doing it so you can feel good about yourself without actually loving anyone the whole concept of a community is itself fraudulent what does that even mean no woman ever gave birth to a community it's a community what are their names uh it's a community I don't know then you don't know anything and you're not loving them it's not possible to love groups of people it's only possible to love people period And so really what this is is a war between the oldest war there is everyone loves right but there are two kinds of people who love those who love the people they're the ones who routinely commit genocide and those who love people and those are the ones you should love back it's really simple people individuals and so I can just say I take stock every single day of everyone in my Orbit and it's a ton of people it's a ton of people and it's not just family members it's everyone I work with and it's everyone I know and I have to say I don't know what this means maybe I'm just uniquely blessed but I bet if you assess your life in the same way you will come to the same conclusion they're doing pretty well they are and that some of them are having you know trouble buying their groceries that's all true like all the macro problems are real problems and longterm they're massively important for us from nuclear war potentially to the debt overhang it's all real but what's more real are the individuals that we are called upon as our most basic and sacred duty to serve in love and if they are thriving you should be in a good mood and don't let anything Carmela Harris who's never tipped a waitress in her freaking life tells you don't let them Define what success is success is the happiness of your people the people with names and fingerprints and opinions and desires and dreams and souls their happiness is the measure of your happiness period And if you keep that in mind I don't even know your names but like oh I feel the the warm Vibe of everyone in this room and that's way more important to me than anything that happened in the debate so with that I will stop and introduce with pride and ection my friend Charlie Kirk who's an amazing person and there are a lot of things I could say about Charlie Kirk um who is the single most effective organizer um of conservatives in the United States Charlie Kirk is doing what the RNC was supposed to do we have a political party for this um but they're chartering Jets and ordering floral arrangements uh so they don't have time but if you're looking for the organization that I don't know might keep voter fraud to a dull Roar um it's Charlie Kirk's organization so I think he has a really meaningful place in American politics but that's not necessarily a compliment because most political people I know are sort of loathsome um on both sides so the thing I'll say about Charlie Kirk and heartfelt is that Charlie Kirk spends more time each day working as hard as he can to maintain moral balance and to serve the people around him who he actually is responsible for his wife and children and to be a decent human being than anybody in American politics and he's pulled it off and I just really really appreciate that I don't trust anybody whose personal life isn't in order I'm sorry I just don't and his is so it's with admiration and anticipation because he's super interesting ladies and gentlemen Charlie Kirk [Applause] Charlie Kirk ladies and gentlemen Charlie thank you for doing this thank you Tucker hello witch all great to be [Applause] here it is I'm I'm sure it'll get you in some kind of trouble that intro but it it is literally true it's is it kind of weird to have like replaced an entire political party I mean I don't I don't know if we've done that but um okay but just just to be fair I mean the RNC used to be so weak and so feckless there there's not much to replace but uh well that's totally fair and and the reason being and this was our our argument from the beginning is that every one of you deserve a Republican party as conservative as you are period you deserve your leaders and your leadership to at least be in the same ballpark your values and we've seen this Tucker over the last couple years especially recently where in this audience there's not a single person who thinks we should send money to Ukraine while we are currently being invaded they think it's insane and yet that is so you have 7,000 people here tonight in Witchita Kansas that has basically a unanimous agreement that our own borders come before the borders of a foreign country super simple super simple however that is a minority opinion held by Senate Republicans and that's the right there we've identified something of which revolutions are made of well I think that's a really insightful point and just for people who don't have context on this you would know because you know all the Senate Republicans and no one is you're not guessing in any of this I I I I know every single one of them at least I can profile them and I know what they believe and I know at least 80% of them personally from text message phone calls and you lived in DC and it it's as if they believe once they're in Washington there's a secret society that they enter and you guys just don't understand it like they do and again they're not only are they wrong but they're not there to actually come up with their own opinions on these issues their first concern should be what do my voters want because they're your proxy that's the system we have set up here it's not an oligarchy where they're there to tell you what they think in some sort of a meeting with their National Security team no instead it's they're there to fulfill the Mandate that the people put in the in The Ballot Box and so we have a breakdown of our system and it's not just that issue but it's issue after issue of major things that are tearing this country apart and what gives me hope but also anger is the people get it is that the people in this audience never want to see our country locked down again and called The Church non essential the people in this audience do not want to see the FBI get another building while moms and dads are being profiled at Schoolboard meetings Steve Bannon is in federal prison and Donald Trump is facing 700 years in federal prison why are Republicans giving the FBI a new building so the people get it but our leaders seem as if they don't care about what their voters think we're trying to fix that at Turning Point action we're trying to make the very easy adjustment that the people and the voter sentiment should be mirrored by how the Republicans in DC Act I but I got to say it I mean every bless you for saying everything you did but I just wonder like this seems like a crisis to me because the only legitimacy that our leaders have is the consent of the Govern we don't have a hereditary monarchy we don't have an ol oligarchy our system is based on the idea the Democracy they're claiming to save is based on a single idea which is the people on the country and that our leaders are legitimate to the extent that they reflect our desires and Views and when they don't they're illegitimate they're they're tyrants like that's our system is it not am I missing something and it hasn't been our system for a couple decades but Donald Trump revealed that that system was no longer in existence and that might be his greatest and longest lasting contribution is is that he comes around and says wait a second you guys want a border wall and you don't want millions of people coming across your border why has Mitch McConnell been in Washington DC for 40 years and we don't have a border wall why is it that Republicans have been running this this place for so long and you guys have these concerns that are constantly ignored why is that we send our our factories overseas to foreign Nations and yet we have trillions of dollars to go colonize Iraq and Afghanistan and try to have gender reassignment surgeries in Syria or whatever the state department is interested in and you're correct what what we're we're experiencing over the last decade in my opinion is the revealing that the Founders constitutional system has not been around for quite some time that the consent of the Govern is a mirage we have these things called elections and that you vote for the lesser of two evils which you should all do but then they actually don't do what you want them to do when you send them DC Trump changed all of that and Trump changed that by going after the fundamental problems of what really Washington DC cares about number one that we should not import endless foreigners from the third world where our own citizens are suffering that is number one number two the thing called free trade is a scam to get your garages filled with plastic that you'll never use while your local Factory closes and the school can't make payroll and your community has to become poor but you're actually getting richer because it's called free trade and number three which got him in the most trouble is that it is not the American defense department Department of defense's mission statement to try and break other countries to invade the world and invite the world the the only Mandate of the Department of Defense and the US military is to protect our people safe and to make sure that our nation is not under attack now just really quick those three things are what we call the neoliberal consensus we use the word unip party a lot right that's the uni party that's the uni party this is is why kamla Harris is being endorsed by Dick Cheney cuz they agree on 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spoke to me again but I meant it um she has no conscience but okay so let's just get specific really quick I love what you said um on the question will just pick one well pick it because we're I can't say this enough on the brink of nuclear exchange I'm not people I know who know a lot about this are very afraid right now this evening September 13th 2024 so I'm upset about it how do we get here well we got here not because Republicans are like no no really the border of some Eastern European country I can't find is much more important than the border at Laredo no we got here because our ruling class decided that this was the most important Adventure going and then we have a leadership change in the Republican party and Mike Johnson from Louisiana who I knew is like sort of a normal person um comes in and announces within like a week that his top priority is funding for Ukraine and I called him and I was like what what and he did not give me a straight answer I don't know the answer how does a guy like Mike Johnson who always seem like a nice guy to me how does he wind up buying into a lie like that that is no connection to the preference of the actual American public and you could get our country destroyed how did he get there yeah and look I I have a similar relationship with Mike Johnson I I give him Grace then I get really mad and then I give him Grace and then I get really mad and he forgives actually amazingly well when I call him out and I say that he's destroying the country so I have give him credit for that um what you know what set me off with Mike Johnson when he there are so many things I don't know when he as a lawyer voted to say that the FBI doesn't need to get a warrant to spy on us as American citizens that drove me crazy when even I'm sure they won't abuse it they the bid Administration just put Tulsi Gabbert on the terror watch list she serves in the US military right now and the Intel agencies have spied on your text messages a lot a lot and probably spot on mine Ian they're spying all of us and here's Mike Johnson who goes and casts the tiebreaking vote which is very rare for a speaker of the house to do exceedingly rare basically all of it would have said is like hey FBI you have to get a warrant before you spy on American citizens TCH exchanges he said no I want to give the Biden FBI in the middle of a campaign season unrestricted access to all Trump campaign emails all text messages all phone calls and I found that to be so Reckless and irresponsible do you know what was the kicker though you can go back for 7 years for 7 years when he was on a committee he was totally against the fisa statute and as soon as he became speaker of the house he's like well you know I think it's very important because a bunch of Americans are going to die if we don't have the the the warrants and if we don't have all this but there in lies the mystery and it's a sincere mystery and I even asked him like you seem nice when did you become a monster you know people are not self-aware enough to give clear answers to questions like that but you know him what happened I I can't speak to that again I I can say though that he is a he is a creature he he's a symptom of this machine where unless you are a you have the fortitude of somebody like Donald Trump or Bobby Kennedy who you're willing to get shot at see your uncle shot see your dad shot see yourself indicted see yourself smeared and canceled which is a very rare breed and understand Donald Trump and Bobby Kennedy have something in common which Thomas Massie also has which is a genetic a genetic deformity by the way which is that you happen to be likable but you don't care what people think about you very very hard to find that combination and so Donald Trump and Bobby Kennedy that's what makes them such a threat to the system Mike Johnson would be an amazing chair of an elder Board of a local church I I have no doubt right no I mean as long as things were going well he'd be great no right exactly like the ties and the offerings are but hey if they have to go like build a new cafeteria like get them out of the way right but this goes to the point is that the and I have some sympathy sympathy for him some some non because he didn't want the job and he he got the job and fine but he he was not the person to stand up to the CIA or the FBI these are the most powerful institutions on the planet and they just had him for lunch literally one security briefing he's like oh well you know I got briefed in a skip and you know at a skiff a bunch of generals come in with their their medals and they do a bunch of woo woo and they say you know uh here we have the uh the the A-Rod region and the and the D the dlam and if we don't spy on all the text messages of the magga faithful in Manhattan Kansas you know we might have another 911 and he says well that that makes perfect sense to me you know we might as well keep on having that and so as soon as they released the classified 911 documents that I'll know at 11 was and I'll be able to understand that metaphor right well and I just no I totally agree by the way Donald Trump should declassify all JFK RFK Malcolm X MLK and 911 documents on day one do we agree can I just ask you a question cuz sometimes it's more revealing to flip thing you know to do the photographic negative of something the reverse of it what would be the justification for keeping those documents secret JFK any of 911 was 23 years ago like why can't why can't I see it I lift her then I know someone who died like I don't have a right to see that why I totally agree the 911 excuse they say well people are still alive that know stuff that's all bunch of nonsense well I'm still alive and I want to know I paid for it I live here I'm a citizen what no of course sorry I just love um I'm sorry it just enrages me it we're going to get to the point by the way where we're going to be so disconnected from the JFK assassination it will be like the Lincoln assassination it'll be like 70 years and they'll say no no we have to keep it Declassified they're keep let's just talk about JFK it's so obvious why they're keeping that Declassified because at the very least the government knew it was going to happen and at the probable the government was involved in the assassination of JFK and therefore no this is important cuz therefore it is an introductory radicalization event and they know that an introductory radicalization event is what all of you had during Co which is where you start to then go down a sequence of questions and once you begin there's no stopping you wait a second they just told us to wear masks when I shower like that doesn't make any sense wait it's not safe and effective like wait my aunt's on her 11th booster and she has covid more than I do that's weird and so an introductory radicalizing event is when all all of a sudden basically the inner question asker within you is liberated you guys all know exactly what I'm talking about right and at that moment you're the most dangerous you could possibly be to tyranny and to an illegitimate regime and JFK assuredly has elements of that that if we get to the facts again we don't know but we can speculate we know that Lee Harvey oswal didn't act alone we know that there's some very suspicious stuff the motorcade slowing down what happened to JFK's head what happened to the grass n why a PR got it on fil head went back to the right again this is not a JFK presentation but like I watch let's go Charlie I'm just I'm just being honest right and they're very Elementary telling that Lee Harvey Oswald from the Texas School Book Depository who was a bad shot in his class with a single bolt action rifle was able to get off that many rounds in a short period of time with pinpoint accuracy be able to get JFK twice in the head and then also penetrate the governor of Texas without a second shooter yet every every wetness said yeah there was something kind of there on that Hill like shut up we're going to cancel you of course something happened there all of a sudden if there is a second shooter the grassy null therefore the government lied about it covered it up was probably involved therefore it asked the question what else is our government involved in and it is the beginning of the end of the illegitimacy of this government and they know that so they must keep it Declassified and but there's only so many of these things they can cover up because now with the internet with social Med media and the power of programs like Tucker and our podcast they're not able to control the corporate media like they were before and they know that and thanks to rumble and Elon Musk buying Twitter and X we are we are on the precipice regardless what happens in November of the greatest Enlightenment and the greatest eye openening event in modern American history where millions of people can finally see the truth and those of us are Christians know the truth will set you free amen amen I didn't know any of this if you'd asked me 20 years I mean my dad worked for the government I lived in DC from the age of 15 I sort of bought into every lie and um yeah um I did wonder what the I mean I'm a Hunter and a rifle shooter and that's one of the crappiest rifles you could ever buy with like Butler is what you're talking about no no no the the Lee Harvey Oswald rifle are you joking with like corrosive primer garbage ammo really that's what he used to I I never believe that part of it but but leaving that side I wonder if by continuing to lie they aren't about everything they're driving all of us a little crazy well this is why your faith is the most important thing because for those of us that are Christians it doesn't drive you crazy you actually see what's going on which is that we do not wrestle against flesh and blood but against princip alties and darkness and spirits that there is a spiritual war here and you're right Tucker I find people in this space that are not anchored to Faith anchored to Jesus they do lose their mind because there is no rational or reasonable explanation for what the country is doing to itself or what we are experiencing but if you then see and you know that there is a God and we are not him that there is an entire dimension of angels and demons and spirits that are constantly strugg struggling around us and that there is a super Supernatural Dimension as you mentioned all of a sudden that does then make sense that does it does not make any rational sense to shut down your schools so you could sacrifice the kids so the elderly can live that makes no sense whatsoever it makes no sense whatsoever to keep your marijuana dispensaries open and your alcohol shops open but the church not essential only a demonic Enterprise would do such a thing only a demonic Enterprise would say that Easter and Pentecost are non essential but race rioting and burning down a Wendy's is a central activity and Tucker you talk about this a lot for those of us that know the truth we know that our God is a god of order and distinction what is the first thing that God did in the Hebrew Scriptures it says well and also our scripture in the original Genesis bit which is in the beginning God created the heavens in the earth and then he separated and he make sense he made order out of chaos our God is a god of order and Order only comes with distinctions and distinctions are necessary think about all the distinctions that God set up in the first six books of Genesis that are currently under attack the distinction between male and female the distinction between man and nature the distinction between the holy and the profane the distinction between good and evil the distinction between infant and adult these distinctions have always been what western civilization were built upon but it is Satan's goal to blur and eventually destroy those distinctions because those distinctions of which we get order and if you do not have that order then you have the closest thing to satanic chaos here in our country man it's so it's amazing to me personally to hear you say that and to nod in vement agreement with every word that you said considering I think I was the most secular person on planet Earth just like 10 years ago and I've arrived at exactly those conclusions I think inductively but also instinctively what you said is true that is true what you just said so as someone else who's changed his mind about everything and I'll I'm happy to admit it um tell me about the progress of your thinking about politics you're one of the one of the reasons I respect you is because you've always been honest about how you think about things and when you change your mind you Proclaim it loudly the evidence changed and so did my conclusion I've heard you say that so tell me what the progress was like for you yeah and it's interesting we're in Witchita which is actually fitting because there is a reason that actually you know where I'm going with this I know exactly where you're going there's a large black building nearby yeah I don't know if it's black or white or rainbow um it might be rainbow actually um which is this which is that early when I got my start in the conservative movement in 2012 13 14 15 hyper libertarian forces had taken over the conservative movement now I'm very libertarian on certain things I'm libertarian on free speech on privacy issues I'm libertarian on guns right I'm libertarian on certain things however the kind of libertarian isation of the conservative movement was actually not good for us it was not good for us to stop caring about the nuclear family it was not good for us to all of a sudden say that borders don't matter and that America is just an idea and it's an experiment I fell for that crap for a couple of years in 20156 17 again I'm not trying to pick on any sort of thing here in Witchita but billions of dollars have flowed out of this city into the conservative movement to try to make us less conservative and more liberal in the conservative movement that's a fact okay it is a fact and I think it's really I think it's a tragedy actually and I credit Donald Trump for waking me up because Donald Trump in his it's I never got angry at the time it wasn't angry I never got unsettled about when Donald Trump would insult the reporter or do the rosie odonald thing do you know what always may be unsettled When Donald Trump would bluntly ask a question that I didn't have a good answer to When Donald Trump would say and why are we bringing in people from around the world that hate us and I'd say well according to the macroeconomic theory as espoused by fa hyek and monis if you look at the curve you have a steady flow of people coming from other countries then her economic efficiency and output is actually outweighed and therefore a good thing it's like what am I saying to myself it's called rationalization and and and what Trump was able to do is he never went through that nonsensical abstraction like exercise because he was Donald Trump at his best is someone that has always been so focused on the real and the immediate job sites construction sites the muscular class building real things Donald Trump has never been worried about like the platonic idea of Love Like That is not Donald Trump's thing do we all agree with that right and yeah he he went light on on The Playdoh in college sure that's right and I'm but and people say oh Donald Trump is dumb no Donald Trump is wise and he does not get credit for being wise wise is the knowledge of things that do not change so Donald Trump loves the country he comes along and he's like the country that I love is being abused and has become a Dumping Ground for the third world it is actively being looted this is bad and at the time I I wasn't that forceful against the opposition but I remember like privately being like oh he doesn't understand the economic theory behind all this and the more I was challenged and questioned I didn't have a good answer to that and so it made me start to ask question what do I really value do I value economic theory or do I Val value my family and my fellow countrymen like do I value a bumper sticker that says that you know I don't know whatever stupid libertarian bumper sticker that was around you know five or six years ago like Live and Let Live or do I value children that should not be subject subjected to drag queen Story Hour at their local library like which one is it actually and or and so it and then I've always been a Christian and connected the dots and I got to be honest Tucker you were the one that radicalized me more than anybody else the last 5 to 10 years do you guys agree because then Tucker would go on his fox show and would just start asking the same questions and would have guests that would ask the questions and they'd always attack Tucker oh he's just asking questions but isn't that what the pursuit of Truth is all about isn't that what Christ Our Lord did and if you don't have good answers to simple questions maybe you're not that deep maybe you've overthought yourself into some sort of word salad and you can't answer in a beautiful and a crisp way because you're actually not that deep and you're not protecting things that are good and that are true and everlasting and divine and eternal and so for me especially 207 2017 18 19 where I said some really stupid stuff it really made me go on this journey and then when I met my wife and we got married and have children all of a sudden I said that's my mission statement it's not about trying to defend democracy in Haiti my mission statement is my children my mission statement is to make sure my kids can be raised in a healthy safe clean and orderly country and not have to worry about some Foreigner that's been imported from the third world that is going to commit violence against them that they're going to have to compete against them to buy a home that they're going to have to compete against them to get a job and so my mission statement changed from something that was distant and uh very very um far away in the clouds to what is immediate and those of us that are conservatives we must understand and Tucker hit it in his opening address it is easy and it is simple and tempting to say that you're fighting climate change it's hard to raise good kids and the people who want to fight climate change they prend to not put any of their energy towards raising good people well totally I mean sorry no no I love it I love everything that you're saying and I just always think to my I never articulate it but I think I think a lot of things I don't articulate as my wife always says you need to understand the beauty of the unexpressed thought um but I often think when I'm getting a moral lecture from one of you know somebody in charge which is the one thing they're really good at is immediately seizing the moral High Ground people who have no basis for moral certainty um seize the moral High ground and start lecturing you like you're a bad person but I always think to myself um why don't you I don't know let's just start with the basics why don't you make the same woman happy for 30 years and get back to me okay why why don't we start there have you done that have you made the same woman happy for 30 years I don't think you're capable of that actually I also don't think you could change a tire so why don't you shut up um so yeah cuz like all that matters is the things that really matter and by the way this whole system is created and I mean the E economic system in which Joe Biden voters own 70% of the nation's wealth and the useful people own 30% the whole system is set up to give money and Prestige to useless people who in a fair society would be screwed because they can't do anything and that's the truth so all the things you actually need in life are provided by a really small number of people who also Al the worst paid so I just I'm just throwing this out there and I don't mean any offense to the cokes but I actually think that we could get by a week in this country without private Equity I just think we could I think we could survive I think we could we could do that if we all banded together do you know what I mean or like the payday loan people I think we probably make it without them but you know we couldn't make it with that like Farmers people who grow the food or who fix the cars or the houses or Plum the bathrooms like all the useful people are despised and the totally useless people are deified so it's like how long could you live