Uh, and then after he died, after he was murdered, my team called and said, "Van, he was trying to reach you, man." What? And what was he doing? Dialogue. Uh, let's be gentlemen together. Uh, he says, "Let's disagree agreeably." So, I'm sitting on this and I'm watching the whole country talk about civil war, censorship, uh, uh, justifying murder about this guy. This guy is reaching out to his mortal enemy, saying, "We need to be gentlemen, sit down together, and disagree agreeably." And the next day, he's killed. And I've sat on it long enough, and I just said, "You know what? We're going to Memorial Weekend for this man. Uh, we disagree. Everybody knows we were not friends, okay, at all. But you praise the good when it's time to memorialize somebody. And what he did, and I didn't even know it, was good. He was not for violence. He was for dialogue, open debate and dialogue. Even with me. Even with me. His most public accomplishments were political. His most important were religious. He wanted to be remembered for his faith. He wanted to help as many souls to heaven as he could. If you want to honor Charlie, go to church, read the Bible, pray, and do it right now. Jesus called us to be salt and light. What does salt and light have in common? They change the environments they come in contact with. They don't conform. They don't affirm. They transform what they come in contact with. My question for you, are you transforming the environment you come in contact with, your place of work? Are you transforming your family? Are you trying to lift people up? Are you trying to reject evil? It says in the Psalms, Psalm 97:10. What do you want to be caught doing upon Jesus's return? Do not allow esquetology to be an excuse for you not to fight evil. Do not allow the signs of the times for you to be paralyzed, static, to not engage in the culture. We must challenge people to be greater, to reach higher, to be biblical, to be Christlike. And I'm telling you, this generation cannot just be the most conservative generation, but the most Christian generation as we continue to be salt and light in every single walk of our life. >> If everything completely goes away, how do you want to be remembered? >> If I die, everything just goes away. How would you if you could be associated with one thing, how would you want to be remembered? >> I want to be I want to be remembered for for courage, for my faith. That that would be the most important thing. Most important thing is my faith in my life. Charlie Charlieie Charlie. [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] Every day there's a battle for your mind raging. Information coming from every angle with the will to deceive. Fear not. You found the place for truth. The voice of a generation that still has the will to believe in the greatest country in the history of the world. This is the Charlie Kirk Show. Buckle up. Here we go. Everybody, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. My name is Andrew Kovvet, the executive producer of this show, and I am joined by a dear friend of Charlie's. And I just tweeted this, and it couldn't be more true. Ali Beth Stucky, you were genuinely in a very very small group of people where throughout all the years of working with Charlie, if your name came up, he would just instantly say, "She's the best. >> Love Ally." >> Wow. >> You truly did earn Charlie's respect. And I think it's because of your faith, because you are so such a stalwart for defending it, for defending traditional values, for saying hard truths. >> And so it's it's a real honor to have you here, and I I saw you on Sunday. You were at the memorial, you went home, and then you came back. So >> yes, >> really really amazing of you to do that. >> It's such an honor to be here. And I've seen a lot of people say, my friends and people online say, "Okay, I knew that Charlie was a Christian, but I didn't know how much he talked about Christ. I didn't know how much he shared the gospel. I didn't know how much he cared about theology." And it was just really sweet to be able to say, "I did." Like, I did know that. I saw that up close. We went not only to a couple campuses together, but to churches together. Every time we talked, it would >> uh every time we talked, it would be about theology. It would be about weak pastors. what the church needs to do. And I'm like, I did I did see that. I got to see it up close and personal how much he cared about contending for the faith. And it really was a privilege. >> Yeah. Well, and you are sort of the perfect person to have on because >> so many people are talking about this memorial. Yeah. >> They saw the leaders of the free world talking about Jesus. They saw Don Jr. talking about Jesus. >> I know. >> Which, by the way, we were backstage and we were all kind of ribbing. are like, "Don, did you just did you just preach the gospel, Don Jr. >> A little bit?" >> And he a little bit and you could see that he has been changed by this and realizes the importance of it in a whole new way. I mean, Don was incredibly close to Charlie. >> Yeah. >> So, I I mean, >> the question is, you know, how big and how deep and how wide can this revival go? Because I do believe that we are in revival times. >> Yeah. >> And the question is, >> what happens next? Something that my audience has heard me say a lot, and I love to start out the week reminding people of this, that God's eternal plan of redemption is always going off without a hitch. That he's never looking down wondering what's happening. He's never confused. He's never thrown off. He's never taken a back. He's never surprised. He's not distant. He's not busy. But he is suspended in the eternal now. So God is not within the context of linear time like we are. So God is using actively all things throughout eternity for the good of those who love him and for his own glory. And clearly God had a plan far before Charlie was tragically assassinated. He was already working out all things for the good of those who love him. In fact, I think about the story of Joseph whose brothers were driven to jealousy and threw him in a pit and sold him into slavery. And then there was a caravan coming from Egypt and the brothers sold Joseph into slavery. And then of course, Joseph goes on to be a ruler of Egypt because of his faithfulness, he ends up helping save his own people, his own family from famine because of that position of power. But you think before Joseph was thrown into the pit, before he was sold into slavery, that caravan going to Egypt was already on its way. >> Like God already had the plan before that. And obviously I hate that the assassination of our friend was any kind of impetus for anything. I would have loved revival without that. And yet what we read about God is that he stops at nothing to bring glory to himself and to bring his sheep to himself. And we were talking off air, is this a revival? I've never said in my life, yes, I think so. But I do think so. Time will tell. We can talk about the fruits of a true revival. But I see it and I feel it. I felt it at the memorial. M >> the Holy Spirit was there. I felt it, >> man. I I I think it was Tucker Carlson of of all people. I saw him backstage and I was like, "What are you going to talk about?" He goes, "I'm going to talk about Jesus." >> Repentance. >> Yeah. And and and I was like, "You're going to talk about Jesus?" He's like, "Oh, yeah, baby." He's like, "It came to me in the shower." And I was like, "Okay, great." And and he gets up on stage. He's like, "You can feel the Holy Spirit humming like a tuning fork in here." And that was so spot on because as soon as you walked into >> the room, it was like the hairs on my arm stood up and I I got the chills and I walked in as a worship song was playing >> and every hand was like raised in the air. >> 70,000 people. There was 277,000 devices that our team geo tracked in the in the vicinity. that that was a sea of humanity to get into that place and all of them I'm so sure were like moved in the spirit in that morning. So even if they couldn't get in there was I was hearing people were watching it on their phones and they were singing out on the streets. >> It was it was and there wasn't any fighting. There wasn't any shoving. >> Yeah. >> Nothing. >> The moment for me that I just lost it. Well, first of all, I walk in and I'm like, "This is amazing. Oh my goodness." And then I see some of my favorite people that I typically only get to see online. and I'm sitting next to Matt Walsh. Obviously, there's the cabinet right in front of me. And then it just hits me why I'm there. I'm like, well, this is amazing. But it also gosh, like I my heart just broke again about why we're there. But we were being led in worship Brandon Lake and he's singing and then he stops and the music keeps playing and spontaneously, I don't think that this was orchestrated in any way. Everyone just starts slowly lifting up their signs. And as people out there probably know, one says, "Send me, I'll go." The other red sign says, "Well done, good and faithful servant." And I look back on the stage, Brandon Lake is just sobbing. I am sobbing. And it was just one of those moments that I can only recall feeling a few times in my life where I felt tangibly and physically the Holy Spirit in that room. And that was one of the most beautiful moments I've ever been in. A foretaste of heaven. If you had told me that I get to worship and listen to the gospel preached, you know, not right next to Donald Trump, but alongside Donald Trump and all of these other people, I would have said, "Well, that's going to happen on the other side of eternity, not this one." But Charlie made that happen here. >> Yeah. And I'm going to play this clip because I think it's so powerful. Get cut 50 ready. This was this moment where I think you know when when the band stops their instruments and they just let the audience hold the tune and sing. Yes. And you could see >> this huge I mean tens and tens of thousands of people worshiping with their hands in the air. It was so powerful. Play cut. 50. [Music] [Applause] I know it's not nothing else. [Music] [Applause] See one more time. So I throw my hand praise you again. [Applause] >> So good. Chills again. >> Chills again. Me too. >> I mean what a foretaste of heaven. >> Absolutely amazing. And I just think about all the people over the past few years who have criticized conservative Trumpup supporting Christians for being too loud, for being too political, for being too divisive. And they claimed that in order to win people to Christ, you had to compromise and you had to be quiet. You had to be what they called a soft presence. But in the end, revival was sparked by those who relentlessly pursued and represented the truth at any cost. >> That's well said about Charlie, actually. And you know, I'm I'm going to I'm just going to go for it here. There was a verse that has been sent to me more than any other, >> and I tweeted it this morning, and it's from Hebrews 12 1-4. Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a huge crowd of witnesses to the life of faith, let us strip off every weight that slows us down, especially the sin that so easily trips us up, and let us run with endurance the race God has set before us. We do this by keeping our eyes on Jesus, the champion who initiates and perfects our faith. Because of the joy awaiting him, he endured the cross, disregarding its shame. Now he is seated in the place of honor beside God's throne. Think of all the hostility he endured from sinful people. Then you won't become weary and give up. After all, you have not yet given your lives in your struggle against sin. We'll be right back. So good. [Music] boy for five hours. It's an incredibly difficult situation to end >> and I do want to see the wars end. I mean, you and I have agree an agreement. I happen to be on the pro-Israel side. I think what's happening to some of the civilians in Gaza is terrible. I want to see that come to an end. >> The rape and the murder and everything. Yes. >> Well, I I don't Do you have evidence of IDF soldiers raping women? >> There's a case with the radio rape and that was discussed in the Israel government, I do believe with some of their official members. >> I'm not aware of that, but yeah. So, sure. I of course I don't support that. >> My second main thing is I struggle to see how Trump is for like the lower class of people. We see like with this tax I know you've talked about a bit with this tax cut and hopefully that comes through and that helps us. However, the tax cuts that push for the top 1% of people compared to him cutting Medicare, Medicaid, and processes that help millions of Americans. I'm failing to see how that's and under the disguise of saying that is for money, but he's allowing less money. >> Let's go through the three things that Democrats are going to vote against. No tax on tips. That's a working class thing. >> No tax on overtime, no tax on social security. >> Those were big. >> Those three. >> And I'm okay with those. And he's actually proposing a tax hike on the 1%. I don't know if it's going to pass, but he has also pass. He's also suggested closing closing the carried interest loophole. So, there's a little more there than you might might always hear on the media. >> From my knowledge though, most of the tax bills that he has provided though largely favored the top percent over the middle class though, unless I'm wrong, but to my knowledge, >> no tax bill has passed. >> Yeah. Not this term, but in especially in like his past term, it was largely a middle class tax cut. But yes, you are not totally incorrect. wealthier people also paid less which by the way I I think less taxes for everybody is a good idea >> but then may I ask you what do you think about like his cutting Medicare and Medicaid that help millions of Americans >> that has not happened yet department of education >> all of this is an ongoing discussion so and also I would he's not touching Medicare at all Medicaid is very complicated there's a lot of fraud there's a lot of abuse there's a lot of double dipping so I do think we need to reform Medicaid Medicaid is a distinctly different thing than Medicare >> see I can agree with you on that on the reform part sorry However, he's hasn't, to my knowledge, he has yet to bring actually a plan of reform. I've talked about with some of my friends that are Republican as well, and they've said yes that Medicare has its issues. And I completely agree. I think a lot of our government needs reform. However, a big of my issue is he's yet to propose a plan to actually reform it. His main thing is just let's get rid of it, per se. Same with like Department of Education. >> He's not saying to get rid of Medicaid. That that is not correct. But we should get rid of the Department of Education for sure. Like that like 100% that >> ask why. >> Yeah. Well, since the Department of Education, have education standards and outputs gone up or down? >> I believe they've gone >> what standards you're talking about though. >> Everything. Reading scores, test scores, literacy are standing in the world. The Department of Education is the Department of Education Administration. There are 21 million people that work for the government in this country. >> 11 million of the 20 million work in education. Do you know 7 million of the 11 million are not teachers. >> They're administrators. They're desk workers. They're paper pushers. This is largely pushed by the Department of Education. >> It is the Department of Bureaucracy. >> Then why not reform instead of harm people in the process of trying to >> There is nothing good the Department of Education does that that cannot be sent to other departments. >> There you're telling me there's not one thing in the entire department of education of helping students whatsoever. Food >> that can't also be sent to other departments. See, that's the key. That's what you don't hear in the media. He's not getting rid of school lunches. He's sending that to the Department of Agriculture. He's not getting rid of student loans. He's sending that to Department of Treasury. >> But will it be handled properly? >> Better. Way better. What what do you what do you think a education bureaucrat or a a sophisticated financial expert at Department of Treasury is better at understanding student loans? >> Department of Treasury. >> So he's actually making it better and more efficient. So you think he's just deleting stuff. In reality, he's making things more efficient and sending them to other departments. Does that make sense? >> In a sense, I get that. But at the same time, the main worries are that there's no actual like solid concrete plan of like hope. You just don't know it. >> The entire thing is a big gamble. Same with our economy and the tariffs and everything. I think there's no plan, but you got to dig deeper, man. This is This administration is far more sophisticated than you think. You think that they're just shooting from the hip and that they're just doing random stuff. These are incredibly talented, smart people that have thought this through, that are very methodical in how they're going about. >> I believe it's Linda Mckennon, Department of Education Secretary. >> Linda McMahon. >> Linda McMahon, >> the WWE. Great. >> But you're But you're saying she's incredibly knowledgeable about this. >> She did run the SBA. She ran the Small Business Administration. That's big. She ran a multi-billion dollar business. I mean, then into the department of education which is a different stance though. >> Yeah. I mean who would you rather have run the department like a teacher's never run anything or someone who's run a multi-billion dollar business? Probably the business operator >> rather someone with a bit more education into actual education process. >> I'm not saying like a teacher had former teachers. Arie Duncan was the head of the department of education under Obama and he was a former teacher. He was a disaster. >> Our education department and our education standards in this country are some of the worst on the planet in the industrialized world. It's largely because we centralize things in DC that should be sent to the states and sent to parents and sent to families and local areas. And the president's making good on his promise to abolish the Department of Education. >> But in countries like in Europe, like Sweden, they have a much higher education level than we do. And they have a their government has a much more involved program in All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. I'm Andrew Kulvet, executive producer, and I am of course with Alli Beth Stucky, who needs no introduction. >> Ally, you put out a tweet and an Instagram story, I believe, asking a really great question. I wish I would have thought about it. I might do the same. I might steal it because it's a beautiful thing to just reflect on. >> Who out there became Christians because of Charlie? either because of his life or in because of his death and they just discovered I I would love to know more stories like that. >> So you did that and what happened? >> I posted this on Instagram. My Instagram audience is very engaged. But when I say email me, a lot of times people just don't want to go through that barrier. So I just said, "Email this address if God used Charlie's voice to bring you to Christ." And I got probably a hundred emails and they're still coming in from people saying this is how God used Charlie's words. But one email really stuck out to me and it was from a woman named Jacqueline who said that she had been engaged in the new age and tarot cards in all kinds of witchcraft, but I won't give it away because we'll hear more from her and her story. Uh God used Charlie in a really big way in her life to bring her to Christ. And so yeah, really amazing. >> Well, we have her, I believe. Jacqueline, are you there? >> Hi. Good morning. >> There she is. Hey, >> thank you so much for >> Thank you so much. >> Yes. Well, thank you for taking the time to join us. Um, I would love to hear from you. Before we get to you being introduced to Charlie's content, can you tell us what your life was like before Christ? You told us a little bit about being engaged in the new age, but what did that look like? >> Yeah, I was definitely engaged in a lot of new age practices. Um, I attended monthly moon circles. I practiced a lot with crystals and I would, you know, read my oracle cards in the morning before starting my day. I had a number of tarot readings done. Um, trying to divinate answers and, you know, future possibilities. and I've had crystal healing um done. So yeah, I was definitely practicing a lot. >> And during that time, what would you say what would you say that you were searching for? >> I think I was always searching for something larger than myself. Um I wouldn't say that I didn't ever believe in God, like didn't like I always believed in God. I didn't push that thought away, but I guess I was looking for a way to come closer to God, and I thought that these practices would bring me there, but that that wasn't really the case. >> Yeah. At what point did you realize that engaging in that kind of witchcraft was not leading you to the happy, transcendent place that you were trying to go to? I think it it did take some time. Um I think my process has probably been over about three years or so. Um when I really started questioning things and there were a lot of different events in my life that led me to to that that I just kind of felt empty inside doing these practices. And I think a lot with new age, they're always kind of trying to tell you to do more shadow work, to dig deeper, to, you know, get rid of that darkness. But in turn, you're kind of feeding that darkness, and that's all you're ever focusing on. So it almost kind of becomes like a black hole that just sucks you into it. >> Wow. And were you did you consider yourself politically progressive at this time or did you not really think about politics? >> Um I definitely wouldn't consider myself progressive necessarily at that time. Um >> co really changed a lot of my opinions on politics. I would say that precoid I didn't really pay attention a whole lot to politics. Um, but COVID really opened my eyes to a, you know, a lot of issues and so I was definitely turning more conservative at that time, but I wouldn't have labeled myself either way. I kind of was just in a neutral place. >> Right. And it was your husband who started watching Charlie Kirk's videos that let you know about Charlie's content. And what you told me is that you were very off-put by Charlie at first. Is that right? >> Definitely. Um I think my husband watched a lot of the prove me wrong videos and a lot of the college campus videos and it was definitely off-putting because it was kind of pointing out all of the things that I wasn't necessarily thinking deeper about. and I was kind of just taking a surface perspective on it. And I think a lot of the conversations that Charlie has you have to dig deeper with and there's a lot of nuances and so it's better in a long form rather than, you know, just little snippets that you see. >> Jacqueline, it's Andrew, sorry to chime in here. We're going to take a quick radio break, but we're going to keep going on the stream. We'll be right back. All right, Jacqueline, we are going to continue and I don't want to interrupt you and Ally's conversation anymore cuz I'm riveted. So, please go. >> Yes. Okay. So, do you remember anything specific from Charlie that uh you were like, "Okay, I've never heard that before or that kind of offends me. That rubs me the wrong way." I'd have to say that the main issue that really started to change my thought pattern was the issue surrounding abortion. >> Yeah. >> Um I'd always been really pro-choice. Um I was quite liberal in my, you know, my early 20s. Um and then I had a son and I was already kind of changing my views on it. But just hearing, you know, the passion behind it and really kind of like the logical sequence of it all, like, you know, how how can we do that? It's >> Yeah, that that that issue right there was definitely the one that really started to make me think deeper. >> Yeah. Gosh, he was so good at defending life. One of the very best. I mean, >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And I I by the way I just love that at first Jacqueline you you were repelled by it which I think is super normal by the way because you know I personally believe Charlie was a modern prophet >> in the biblical sense. I'm not talking about fortuneelling or predicting the future in the sense that you know Jesus said the prophets that's why they killed them because he he called a nation to repent. He he so he speaks this truth bluntly without pulling any punches. That was Charlie's way. It was completely unvarnished truth. And it strike when you're not exposed to the truth and you you don't have ears to hear it, it it you you're confronted by it. And I think the the flesh wants to fight it. It wants to push back and say, "You're wrong. This guy's awful." >> And we've all done that. >> Yes. But then when and then all of a sudden your heart starts opening up and the Holy Spirit starts working on you. It's like then you have eyes to see. Then you have ears to hear. And I just can't tell you how many people have that same exact experience with Charlie. But I also think it's why he's so misunderstood by the left. They they just their hearts are hardened to hearing those truths that come from scripture. >> Yeah. But you didn't allow your heart to stay hardened or God did it. God softened your heart. So can you tell us about that? The more that God was working in you, the more you watched Charlie's content, just tell us about that change in your life. Um, yeah. So, as I said before, it definitely took time. And I mean, I'm I'm still learning. I'm still exploring. Um, I feel, you know, really new on this journey. It's really only been about a year or so that I've kind of solidified that belief in myself. And I've just kind of had a hunger to learn more and, you know, to open my Bible and and read the Bible and read the word. And um yeah, it really was just kind of like a number of events that happened in which I got tired of holding all of that burden and I really needed to release it over to something greater than myself. And and that's really, you know, that's really where Jesus came into my life. Wow. And now you wrote to me. You are reading your Bible. You're attending church. You are now a gospel believing Christian. No more tarot cards. No more witchcraft. That's amazing. >> No. All of that. As soon as I decided it all went into the garbage, I threw >> wow >> every I went through my house and threw absolutely everything away and and just didn't really want to have any part to do with it. >> Well, praise God. Thank you so much, Jacqueline, just for reaching out to me, for your boldness, for your testimony to the Lord's power, but also to Charlie's influence. I really appreciate you. God bless you and your family, especially in your growth in your Christian walk. I appreciate you. >> Thank you so much. I feel so honored to be on here. >> Praise God. Thank you. >> Well, I for one am very hopeful that Jacqueline's story will be multiplied by the millions. And I believe it. I mean, we had over a hundred million that we know of. And that's just on the live streams for Charlie's memorial. That's insane. I know. And that and that's not counting broadcast clips, all that thing. So just multiply that by >> who knows how. Who knows? >> Uh we're going to take a quick break and we have a another guest in studio. So we'll be right back for radio. Don't go anywhere. >> Yep. Yeah, but like for example, supplying more weapons like there's like >> that's that's a that's a no-go for us. >> But but why can't you supply more weapons as long as Putin doesn't agree to a ceasefire? I'm great because I would think I think >> we have a different view of the war than Biden. We don't think it's primarily America's responsibility to hold up Ukraine. >> Okay, I I agree with that. >> So we just have a different philosophy. >> Okay, that's fine. But like you bordered on the horrible M. All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show. It's Andrew Kulvet, Charlie's executive producer, Alli Beth Stucky, and I you know, you need no introduction, but I'm going to let you introduce our next guest who's in studio with us. >> Yes. Pastor Costy Hen, I knew when I was uh co-hosting this with Andrew that I wanted to bring you in because you're local, you're a pastor, and I want you to introduce yourself a little bit more and then we're going to talk about revival and what it means to be a Christian. >> Yeah. So, I get the privilege of pastoring not far from here, actually. It was what 12-minute drive over to to the studio. Grateful. And uh >> been pastoring a church called Shepherd's House for just over three years. God's done some pretty amazing things here in the desert and it's thriving. And then I get the privilege of leading a ministry called For the Gospel. It's an online uh resource ministry and it our tagline is sound doctrine for everyday people. also thinking of your guest that you just had on. >> I mean, I love bringing the cookies down from the top shelf and explaining truth, theology, and helping people grow in their faith. >> That's one thing that you and Charlie had in common, taking the cookies down from the top shelf. So, making things really simple. >> Charlie boiled things down in the most in the simplest terms. I mean, he had a a brilliant intellect and he I mean, he could have used, you know, $100 words when, you know, a dollar would work or five cents, but he he chose not to because he was so linked to the people and the grassroots and the mus and he and he just had a way of distilling everything and just these blunt terms and it was always so right on. I have a is it okay if I Yeah, I just have a like outside looking in. How has everything that you've seen in the last, you know, 13 days, >> how has it impacted you and what have you seen at your church? >> Yeah, so obviously the personal emotion element is huge. You watch everything go down and you're kind of gut punched cuz I grew very familiar with his voice and all the content that TPUSA puts out and what Charlie was doing and even the excitement of this probably last year. you you would know more obviously being so close to him and seeing it. But I noticed a a clear shift. It wasn't mere politics. The guy was a biblical flamethrower. He was unleashing truth. He was interacting. It was the college campuses that ignited so much of this. So we're all fired up. Our church loves him. So many of the young people and then you see this. So gut punch. And then our office came to a standstill that day. And we have a couple of guys, military guys and a few others on our staff. They were all there that day. And we just stopped what we were doing. And we immediately prayed prayed for him, prayed for Erica, the kids, you guys. And it's a lot of emotion. And then it it was about an hour later and our team at for the gospel said, "Hey, do you do you want to say anything?" And things were starting to kind of unfold and I was keeping up with Ali Beth and everything that was going on. And everything in me thought, "No, I don't want to say anything. I'm numb. I'm speechless. I don't even know what to say." And then I thought, "Nope, I have a responsibility as a shepherd, as a leader, as a pastor. I got to say something. And so took some time, prayed, and then we put out kind of five truths to hold to when wickedness is unleashed essentially and when these kind of things happen. And it just bea became about shephering for us. People in our church were rocked. We had so many folks there on Sunday and we love and loved what you guys were doing and are doing. Love and loved Charlie. And so we are also seeing a lot of excitement and a lot of passion. And so you're living in this really beautiful and difficult tension of mourning and sadness and sorrow. And then you're going, "Wait a minute. I don't have a lot of time, not not to grieve, but I don't have a lot of time to sit around and wallowing and and get in online fist fights and and get all down the drama trail cuz people are showing up going, I'm rocked because of Charlie. I'm here. I want to follow Christ. What do I do?" And and you are right back in the saddle. And it it kind of speaks the way he was >> in many ways. Get on the plow. Get after it. There's people to serve. Not like the show goes on in a callous or emotionless way. It's like, hey, we have a gospel to preach, a Jesus to serve, and people to reach. So, get after it. So, you're you guys are living this right now as well. It's you're you're onward, but you're you're feeling it. So, we've been similar. >> Okay. We were talking about revival, and a lot of people have been using that word, and certainly at the memorial, it felt like a big revival in a lot of ways. What is a revival though? Like what can we look for to see the true fruit of an actual revival? Not just an emotional experience, but a real resurgence and true repentance and faith. >> Yeah. So, two words that I've been using, not interchangeably, but distinct. >> Revival and renewal. >> So, revival is to bring alive something that was dead. >> So, that is your new believers, people getting saved, people coming to faith. They were absolutely agnostic. They were detached. They were indifferent. And then all of a sudden they come alive. There's a revival. Something dead now alive. >> Renewal is like when you renovate your house. The house isn't rebuilt. >> But you're renewed. We have both happening right now. >> The clear fruit of a revival is going to be genuine conversion. So real gospel preaching, not just, you know, oh, I want to get back to God or I I just want to be more conservative. Those things are fine. When people want to turn back to God, we need to define that. People want to be more conservative. I saw some folks posting and saying, "I'm officially leaving the left. I'm going right. I'm done with this." And everyone's like, "Yeah, okay." Not fully the goal here. And Charlie and all you guys would say the same thing. Not the goal. The goal is heart transformation, turning to Christ, not merely conservatism. So revival is that which is dead coming alive. Genuine free fruit being love for the gospel, love for the Lord, and then faith exploding. We don't care what you say. Hey, we'll do it in love, but we're going to be bold. We don't care what happens to us. We care about life and one another, but ultimately our allegiance is to Christ. And what you have is this surge of church attendance, not because church saves you, but because people want to hear the truth. Yeah. >> You get this surge in evangelism. We've got people in our in our church. I was with a group of men this morning. We have this large Bible study, and it got larger this week. Got dudes that are bringing their neighbors, guys that are coming out of the woodworks, people going, "Man, I've been thinking about this for a while." And then others saying, >> "Praise God, >> I don't know what happened to me, but I've been waking up every day saying >> that Charlie Kirk guy was on to something." So, I went down the rabbit trail and I realized I I want to believe in Jesus Christ. So revival will result in that true fruit and renewal will result in old school or maybe we'll call them seasoned believers and people who've been a little dry spiritually >> going this is what that's right I forgot this is what we need to be living for what are we doing on cruise control let's go and so both and does that make sense >> it does and first I want to speak to the new Christians because there's a lot of people out there I'm sure Andrew has been getting these >> tweets and these emails too okay I'm a new Christian. What do I do? Like, I want to go to church. I want to read the Bible. But some of these people I've I've seen I saw a post from an atheist woman that I've been following for a long time. We've gone back and forth a few times and she was raised an atheist and she knows nothing about it, but she went to church and she's like, "It was so foreign to me and I don't know what to do with myself." So, first let's speak to the new Christians. What do you do now? >> Okay. So, I made a little list cuz I kind of knew we were going to talk about this. >> I know. And you're so good at making lists. You really are >> very organiz I can see it. I can't see it on camera, but this is an organized brain. >> I love my lists because it drives me crazy when my own kind like theologizers, pastors, and the use big words, use $100 words when a $1 word like, "Come on, man. Give me the list. What do you do? I'm in. Let's go." So, number one, I would say be grounded in scripture. So, we want people reading the word of God. And you don't go off like a kind of a a spray or a mist just all everywhere. Go somewhere specific. So, the Gospel of John is a great place to start reading the read. >> What kind of Bible? Can they just get a Jesus calling? Can they just get >> Oh, I love that. Love that. Let's go even further deep into the root. >> Well, we had we I saw that one of the comments uh one of my tweets. I was like, "Oh, Ally, chime in on that." Like, so somebody was asking, "I need a new believer Bible. What do I get?" >> I said ESV Study Bible, but I would love for you to >> ESV Study Bible and NASB Study Bible. Those are going to be two really good translations. >> Those are just translations. They all have the same idea, but ESV is a little more literal than an NIV. >> Your English Standard Version or your New American Standard Bible. And there's some fun particulars in those. Like, for example, the NASB will put exclamation points where the Greek is exclamatory. So, when you're reading, you're like, "Oh, that's a fired up statement right there versus just a basic." So, start with a a good like word for word type of translation, ESV or NASB. And then from there, a study Bible is really helpful. I watched a clip of you and Charlie talking and he was like, "John MacArthur is one of the he's got to be one of the best Bible teachers on the planet right now." And there's some some guys that have good study Bibles like that where they have notes in the bottom and it just offers clarification. So people can read the Gospel of John. >> John wrote so that you would believe. And so why wouldn't you want to read that? Another book that I think is really helpful right now especially would be the book of Ephesians. They're really letters. So, the letter of Ephesians, and the reason I say that is I preach through Ephesians as the first book we went through as a church plant. So, rookies, newbies, because it covers the gospel. Yes. >> It also covers essentials like prayer, the Holy Spirit, who is Jesus, and unity in the church. But then it gets really fun. Chapter 4 kind of turns and it's like beyond church leadership into chapter 5 and it starts talking about marriage, relationships, work, life. And you're going, "Oh, that's really parenting." your mouth, how you talk, how you think, and then spiritual warfare in chapter six. And because I believe that we are to live as people at war, not a physical war per se, but a spiritual war. And so the book of Ephesians, and then last tip on that, the book, the letter of Psalms, so all of the Psalms and then Proverbs, because Psalms will offer you glimpses of hope, praise, also pain. You have David going through loss and he cries out to God. And then injustice when the wicked do things. David prays big theology word impregatory prayers basically God get them prayers. That's what it's like sick them Lord. You see what they're doing. And David prays these prayers. How long will you allow the wicked to rage? Do God do something. And so we can pray those kind of prayers and turn all that over to the Lord. And then Proverbs is full of wisdom. So that's one key. >> I I had a I had a friend that was going through a really hard season of life and he said for two years all he could do was read the Psalms. Bro, >> it was just it was the only thing that got him through it. It was just it was so heart-wrenching and it was the wicked were coming after him and it was just the psalms were >> all that kept sustained him. So anyways, and sometimes you have seasons like that in life. If you're a new Christian, you have to understand that there will be really hard seasons and sometimes you might need to just read the Psalms. But anyways, there there's a lot of good stuff. I don't want Amen. Yeah. But Ephesians is great and Erica mentioned Ephesians 5 in her speech on on Sunday. So, >> and how do they pick a good church? >> Okay, so my second one was commit to a strong local church. I personally unapologetic on this one. You got to find a church that is unleashing the word of God. And I really do think it's so uh applicable when you look at the way Charlie operated and he he operates as such a great illustration for so many of these things he was living it. But something I just jotted down uh was look for a church that preaches the Bible, gives you doctrine. Think of how Charlie operated. Was he shallow? No, he was clear and simple, but he was never shallow. And so, you're not looking for a preacher that's going to stand up there and tell you cute little stories and make you laugh and then pat you on the back and just send you on, you know, to lunch. You want a guy that gives you all the smoke. You want him to give you all the truth and press in on your life. So, you leave like you leave how you'd want to leave the gym. You're like, "Okay, that was a good workout. Kind of sweaty." >> He really pushed on some buttons and I don't know how I feel about all that's called conviction from the Holy Spirit. And so really important you go to a church that opens the Bible and lets it fly. >> Yeah, that's really good. >> So we have uh just a few seconds here before radio break, but um I'm going to I'm going to invite you to preach the gospel, to proclaim the gospel for those listening that are maybe curious in our next segment. So I'm going to I should have just pounced on you just to see if you could do it, but no. Uh but I think I just feel called to invite you to do that. So we'll be right back. Don't go anywhere. [Applause] [Music] All right, we are back for the stream and for Real America's Voice and uh probably for clips. So, I'm inviting you because I something was stirring in my spirit. say like I don't want to assume everybody out there has made that decision. So I I would love to hear it. Yeah. I think that one of the easiest ways to understand the gospel is God man Christ response. Four simple things. God is holy. He's real. He is the creator of heaven and earth. He's the ruler and holds all authority. He is a righteous, holy, loving father. And that is who God is. Man is sinful. We broke God's law from the Garden of Eden all the way through until now. We all sin. The Bible says all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. Every sin that we would call small is still great enough to send you to hell and separate you from God. And man has one core issue. It's not our politics. It's not the amount of money we make or don't make. Our main core issue is the issue of sin. It separates us from God. So you have God and you have man. And then you need a solution because if we have no solution, we are damned to hell. We are on a one-way track into judgment. And so God though being so loving says, "I'll send my son Jesus Christ to die in their place." And the reason there has to be death and blood is because sin requires payment because God is holy. He would be an unjust God to say, "Ah, sin's no big deal." And wink at it. Because he's holy, he deals with sin. Because man is sinful. He would deal with man. But instead of causing you and I to burn in fiery judgment or the wrath of almighty God to fall on us, he says, "I love my creation so much, I'll send my son Jesus Christ to die." And so Jesus came. Why we make such a big deal about Jesus and it's all about Jesus. People think he's singing about Jesus. Who's this Jesus guy? He's the one who came from heaven as a man and lived a perfect life we could never live. Died a perfect and complete death, taking the full wrath of God upon himself. every sin, past, present, and future. All of it, in your place, in my place. He shed his blood in death on the cross. But it didn't stop there. The devil thought he won. But Jesus rose from the grave. And that was a declaration that death has no victory. Now death has no sting. Death now has no hold. And so all the father is saying is if you place your faith in my son, I no longer see you in your sin. I will not pour my wrath out on you. I pour my wrath on him. I look through my son Jesus Christ at you and I see you washed, cleansed, forgiven, mine. And so that is how we enter heaven. Faith not in ourselves, not in our good works, not in anything we are, but in Jesus Christ. And so response then is this. Choose this day whom you will serve. Will you put your faith in Jesus Christ? Will you lay down your pride and your sin, all of your fears, your guilt, your shame, and say, "Jesus, I give you everything. I surrender my life to you. Please, please, please save me. You are my Lord. You are my Savior. And then give your life to him. Death will not be the end for you. It's the beginning of eternal life. >> Praise God. >> Beautiful. >> Amen. >> And I just feel like there's people listening right now that have this thing that's holding on in their chest like they won't let go and they want to. And I just want to say like, let go. >> Let go. And actually Ally, you sent me this this song. was the Saturday after it happened and I was holding on to all these things that I thought my life was going to be before Charlie was killed. >> Yeah. >> All the plans that we had around the show and it was a lot where I was going to live, how I was going to live, what my what my family's future was going to look like. And I was afraid for what all this would be. And I listen to that song. I had like an ugly cry. I'm not afraid to admit it. And I could feel myself letting go and dying to myself in that moment and saying, "Yes, Lord. Yes." >> Wow. >> And that's so amazing. >> And then the fear melted away because at that point, it wasn't up to me anymore. It was up to Jesus. >> And so I feel like there's people in the audience right now that >> can relate to that. Just say yes. We'll be right back. All right, welcome back radio stations across the country. If you missed what just happened on radio, I pray you will go back to the podcast and listen to it. Uh because you just preached the word of God and the gospel and I felt the Holy Spirit in a big way. >> And so I want everybody listening to have >> access to that. It was amazing. Thank you for that. God is good, man. God's good. this, you know, the story that you just told, it was a song by Matthew S. and I just love to see, especially over the past couple weeks, how God has worked through the lives of believers to build up the body of Christ because that's what he does. Matthew S, who I hadn't talked to in a while. He texted me that song. He was like, "I wrote this demo after Charlie died." And I don't know why cuz I don't even know if we had really spoken except for maybe exchanged a couple texts. And I was just like, >> I was sitting and I was like, "I'm going to text this to Andrew. I I don't I don't know. I just feel like I need to text it to Andrew. And so immediately I just texted it to you. And obviously that was the Holy Spirit. It wasn't me. It wasn't even Matthew. It was God working. He knew. >> Yeah. It was what he needed to do. >> You know, I Yeah. I mean, I'd love to release that song. I don't know if he's released it publicly, but it was it was beautiful. And I actually sent it to Erica and she she I mean, I don't think she would mind saying because it was Saturday. It had happened on Wednesday. uh you know if you you touched us wrong on the arm like we just started crying about you know so totally um but you know she texted back just like crying emojis and she was just like this is so beautiful so it it meant a lot in the moment and >> and I yeah I just think that there is this thing in our flesh that wants to hold on to our own in intellect right now because I remember for me I just >> when I became a Christian the hardest thing was my intellect it just you some fairy god like I can't really you Give me science, give me physical, something I could touch. But that is faith. And maybe talk about that, you know, because we live in such a materialistic world. We live in a scientific world, you know, but what how do you get past that? What does faith actually mean? And what does it look like for people that maybe don't have it yet? >> Yeah. The Bible says without faith, it's impossible to please God. And it's a very interesting statement to make. So I don't please God if I don't have faith. You think why is that the thing that God wants and requires of us? Because it is a total admission that you are not enough. You don't have it in you. You can't do enough. You don't have the strength. You don't have the hope. You don't have the works. You don't have the methods or the strategies to do anything. It's got to be God. And so faith pleases him because faith is humility. Faith is saying, "God, I can't do this anymore. I can't do this in my own strength. I don't have enough knowledge. all my smarts, all my money, all my efforts, all of my strategies, they don't they they can't get me through this. I need you. And so, why is faith the pathway to salvation? Why do we have to have faith in Jesus Christ? Because it is total surrender. And that's what God wants. And then you say, "Well, why does God want that?" Because he knows it's what's best for us. Man has always failed trying to do everything on his own. We make a mess of everything. When you turn to God in faith, you're saying, "I don't see it. I don't always understand it, but I trust you." And that that is where the Holy Spirit meets people where they are, and transformation happens. >> Amen. >> Andrew talked about uh Hebrews 12 earlier in Hebrews 11. Faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the down payment, the guarantee of things hoped for. And all those heroes of the faith in Hebrews 11, they trusted even though they didn't always see the promised land. They didn't see the end result. They trusted that God was who he says he is. >> Um I want to talk about disciplehip because you know as seasoned Christians I'm looking at all of these people who are curious or they're like giving their lives to Christ and I'm like okay I want those I need those people to stay. I want them to get into good churches to read the word of God but I know you can't do this alone. So what's our responsibility as we see this turning to Jesus to disciple these people to take them in? What does it look like? >> Okay. First, I think it's awesome and and kind that you respond that way, but I want to roll it back just one layer deeper. >> Okay? >> There are going to be a lot of people who are responding that way. And then there's going to be a spirit of cynicism. And so, first thing I want to tell the seasoned believers in the church is you reject a cynical spirit right at the root. I we haven't dealt with this in our church by the grace of God, but here's the deal. Remember the prodical son? >> Mhm. The prodal goes wild. Who was there obeying being faithful? >> The other son. >> Yeah. And what happens when the prodal comes back? Oh, come on. I didn't get the fat and calf. What's all the big deal for this? >> You'll have a bunch of people that say, "Oh, we'll see if the hype lasts. Oh, yeah. They were all there at State Farm Stadium on Sunday. We'll see if they actually show up to church next Sunday. Oh, yeah. This is just about Charlie. Do it for Charlie. Do it for Charlie. I've been serving Jesus. I wasn't sure. You'll have all of that Phariseaic stuff. So, number one, season saints, do not be that guy. >> And and we're going to hold we're going to keep going on the stream. Uh we got to take a little break here as we wrap up hour one for our national radio audience. But um you know, and by the way, Erica has some some clips from her speech about some of this stuff. So, I'm excited to play those as well. More on the stream. Don't go anywhere. Give us two seconds. And for radio, we'll be back in a few minutes. [Music] [Applause] All right, pastor. Uh, please continue. >> Okay. >> So, don't give into the cynical spirit. >> Yeah. No cynical spirit. This is what we we live for. This is why we're here. I mean, the church is plan A. We throw the nets. We gather the fish. And so number one, I want people to have a soft, tenderhearted love for the lost and the seeking who are coming. Reject cynicism. Beyond that, open your heart up to disciplehip. I mean, be ready to answer questions. Get in the mess of people's lives. Get down to kind of the early stuff where people sometimes go, "Oh, that's so basic." You know, no, give them the basics. I was actually talking to a brother just recently. He's a a newer believer in the sense of like doctrine and truth. he's learning and reading his Bible. And I was going and on and on like, you know, motor mouthing in this conversation and I was throwing different stuff out and he was eating it up. And then I said something I'm like, you know, and I mentioned a story in the Bible and he was like, "No, I haven't heard that. I I don't so I don't know all the stories in the Bible like you're talking about." I and I went, "Oh, so good." And no better example of this than my own wife when we were dating. We talked one time about some story and I assumed she knew it. Later on I found it. You know, she had been writing about it and I was like, "Hey, you know what?" And I told her this story. I said, "You've probably heard this already." She's like, "Oh, tell me again." And so I thought she she knew. I find out later she didn't know the story. And she just wanted me to share it again. >> Yeah. >> And she said to me, "Make me one promise. If you become a pastor one day and we're married and we have a church, will you just not be that guy that says, "Turn in your Bible to this passage." Now, I know you all have heard this before >> or you know, now everyone knows the story. >> She said, "Costy, there are so many people like me who did not grow up in church. We grew up in America, but we don't know all the church stories." >> And when y'all use all of this, it's not even insider language. We just want to be brought into that language. And maybe if you just say, "Hey, when you're turning in your Bible, turn your Bible to the book of, you know, Philippians. >> I have no clue where Philippians is. If you could just think of me, >> that would be awesome." And it it created a tender-heartedness in me to just remember the person that's coming >> doesn't know all that you know. >> So take it easy and then also it'll train you and it'll show how much do you really know cuz if you can't articulate it to the rookie, you're not as smart as you think you are. >> Okay, that reminds me of being in college and taking this finance class and the teacher got up there and was like, "Well, y'all already know what credit is." And I was like, "We do because I don't." And I had no idea. And it made me it made me discouraged. It made me want to drop out of the class cuz I didn't know what he was talking about and he never explained it. He just assumed that we all had this base knowledge. So it can actually be very discouraging for new Christians when we're just like way up here and they're like, "Hang on, what's John 3:16? I haven't heard that." >> Yeah. Yeah. And I I just love that Erica actually addressed this. It's I mean at this speech by the way >> she gave two of the best speeches I've ever heard and she did it within a matter of days under the most excruciating of circumstances and the most hyp and she knew the world was watching. >> Only God. >> Only God. And she speaks to this. So let's go ahead and play cut 118. All of you, all of you who are already believers, it is your job to shepherd these people. Do not take that lightly. Water the seed of their faith. Protect it and help it grow. >> It's funny. I didn't I hadn't I knew she said that line, but I didn't think of the seed. And the whole time you were talking about cynicism, >> I was thinking of the the parable of the sewer >> and that these seeds are going out. I mean, there are a lot of seeds going out y right now. And some will land >> in good soil. Some will land among thorns. And I mean, God's going to do what God's going to do. >> But we have to be ready to water the seeds and with the expectation that they will grow into maturity. >> Yeah. But we need to model patience and grace as well as people come with their stuff and their mess and they don't have it all figured out or they've been doing things maybe the wrong way or or they don't have a clue and and walk with them and come alongside them. You see this in Acts chapter 8. There's this story of the Ethiopian unic and Philip, okay, one of the apostles runs into this guy and he he shows up and this guy is reading a scroll. He's reading Isaiah. That's how they used to do it. They have these big scrolls. And so he's reading and in my you know CHV the Kasi hinn version basically Philip rolls up on this guy and like hey what you reading and he's like you know oh reading Isaiah you know the scroll and and so Philip then explains Christ from Isaiah which has lots of prophecies about Jesus and the guy then goes hey look there's water prevents me from being baptized and so he's like he's all in clearly he wants to follow Jesus. Philip has evidently explained that, hey, after you profess faith in Christ, you go get baptized not for salvation, but because of salvation. And it's this declaration of the world. Look at me. I'm one of these crazy people, one of these followers of the way. I'm getting in the water. I'm buried with Christ, raised to new life. >> Yeah. >> Look, I'm a Christian. And he didn't he didn't give him a theology exam. He didn't say, "We're going to need you to pass a few classes." He didn't say, "Well, we'll see if it's real, you Ethiopian unic." You know it this guy gets walked into the waters of baptism. And so there's an illustration there of how we can be come alongside someone. Hey, what you reading? Help me. Hmu, help me understand. >> And I think that's one of the best ways to meet people where it also builds trust and people go, oh, you don't just want to hammer me and show off all that you know. You actually want to help me and love me. I'll follow you wherever you go. Just show me the way of truth. And so we want to have that tender heart. M >> what does disciplehip look like on a day-to-day basis? >> Yep. So two elements of that. The great commission when Jesus says baptizing them in them in the name of the father, the son, and the holy spirit. Teaching them to observe all that I have commanded. So in the great commission is this teaching element. We're going to be teaching a lot. So you got to be patient. You also got to know your stuff. And so seasoned Christians armor up because you're going to be using all of that good truth. But then also the Greek word for disciple meth. And that just teacher and you have pupils. You have teachers and you have students. That's what disciple is. So being a disciple is being a faithful student. It's being a good pupil. And to disciple someone means to teach them. And so we're going to need Christians to get their eyes off themselves, to get their eyes off all of their busy schedules and what they're obsessing over and kind of, well, I got to do me. I don't have time for these needy people. No, there's going to be folks that are like spiritual toddlers. They're spiritual babies and they need to be nursed on the milk of the word, raised up to be able to digest the meat of the word. And so you have got we we're commanded to make disciples. So you don't look at this and go, "Oh, all these people. >> It's so busy." No, you look and go, "Oh, look at all of these mouths to feed and hearts wide open to teach and guide." That's the heart. I want to highlight one thing. We have this sweet couple in our church. Uh they were at the memorial on Sunday and uh just it one of my buddy Jordan, one of his best friends uh was really close, worked uh here at TPUSA and his sweet wife. They roll up to campus, our church the Sunday after Charlie was killed and the parking lot is jammed. I mean it was wall to-all both services and they sent me this message and they were weeping. They pulled in and they have young kids. Like it's not easy to get your, you know, we all know this. Like you getting your kids to church in the morning is a feat. There should be awards to it. >> I think the devil intentionally like sabotages that time for what it's worth. Just he hides the shoes. >> No, it's hides the shoes wakes up in a bad mood and they're crying and they don't want to get dressed and you got to like, you know. Yeah. >> Anyways, >> dude, no, you're right. That's why a mentor once told me, uh, Sunday morning church is a Saturday evening mission or decision. So, you start praying. >> That's really smart. >> You steam those outfits. Yeah, seriously. >> You prep the snack bag. Oh, you put the worship on. You're like, we this home is spiritfilled and we are going to the house of God with God's people. And so they roll up and they have young kids and they're now they have to park further. It's Arizona, so we're it still feels like summer here. And they're weeping cuz they know what it means. >> And that's the kind of heart we need to disciple people. They are not annoying. They are not the problem. They are the mission. So get after it and come alongside and do the work. >> All right. So I'm going to we're going to take a quick little pause uh and we will welcome back National Radio in just about a minute. Don't go anywhere. We're going to we're going to talk about male and female roles. We might talk about the difference between the sword of the government versus forgiveness that Erica >> uh offered Romans 12 versus Romans 13. So we'll be right back. that alcohol is able to be legal though uh when weeds not when like the effects of alcohol makes somebody violent. >> Can we agree alcohol should be illegal? >> Yeah, but you know they tried that and didn't work out. >> Well, it actually worked pretty well. You should all study prohibition. It actually works pretty well. Um [Music] All [Music] right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show, radio stations all across the country. I am joined by the one and only Ally Beth Stucky. Uh, one of Charlie's dear, dear friends and a confidant. And I'm so honored to have you here. And >> it's an honor to be here. And it's fun. Y'all are fun. >> Well, I know. And by the way, and then my new friend here, Pastor Cony. I got that right, didn't I? >> Costi. >> Yes. >> I'm a new friend. You get it wrong a few times. >> I know. I invited someone. >> It's a unique word. It's a unique name. I invited someone that not only I knew could just bring the gospel and help us so much, but I was like, Andrew is genuinely going to love gossiping just as a person. So, just making friendships over there. >> Um, so I there's two things I want to get into. And then we do have Kurt Cameron coming on for the second half of this hour. So, more friends are going to be joining. He obviously had been a guest on the show and >> so many things. But I want to talk about uh two things. I want to talk about Erica's speech and what she presented with male and female because this is a central theme of yours, a central ministry of yours. >> And I thought she just I mean like the word choice was so precise and exact. I also want to talk about this forgiveness moment because I actually quoted your tweet yesterday on the show bes you know to different differentiate between Romans 12 and Romans 13. So anyways, so we're going to do this, but we'll start with the female male dichotomy, men, male and female, which I thought was profound that she even brought that up. >> I wasn't expecting her to go there. Totally. That makes sense. >> Yeah. Because of their marriage really was such a great example. >> And Charlie talked about it all the time. >> Totally. All the time. He was obsessed with Erica. So, uh, let's go ahead and play cut. Uh, 119. This is Erica's message to the men. Charlie passionately wanted to reach and save the lost boys of the West. The young men who feel like they have no direction, no purpose, no faith, and no reason to live. The men wasting their lives on distractions and the men consumed with resentment, anger, and hate. [Music] Charlie wanted to help them. He wanted them to have a home with Turning Point USA. And when he went onto campus, he was looking to show them a better path and a better life that was right there for the taking. He wanted to show them that.
