Yankee News Confronts Anti-Trump Protesters in Hopkinton Massachusetts on Healthcare, Immigration, and Charlie Kirk's Legacy

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Nathan Remillard heads to Hopkinton, Massachusetts to engage with anti-Trump protesters in an extended dialogue about the administration's policies. The conversation covers healthcare reform, immigration enforcement, media bias, and the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Protesters express concerns about Trump's character and policies while the interviewer challenges their sources and presents alternative perspectives on issues like the Big Beautiful Bill, deportation procedures, and violence from different political factions. The discussion reveals deep ideological divisions on everything from George Floyd's death to Ukraine policy, yet both sides manage to maintain civil discourse throughout the encounter.

Categories: Protests
September 25, 2025

Face-to-Face with Anti-Trump Protesters

Yankee News arrives in Hopkinton, Massachusetts to document another anti-Trump protest and engage directly with demonstrators about their concerns. The interviewer makes his political stance clear from the start, informing participants that he represents right-wing media while expressing his commitment to open dialogue across the aisle.

The first protester, a retired social worker and therapist, explains she's demonstrating because the current president is moving the country in the opposite direction of everything she believes in. She lists equality, freedom, honesty, science, beauty, history, and healthcare as core values she feels are under attack. Her primary concern centers on what she calls "the big ugly bill" which she believes will result in deaths, including children, by taking away Medicaid.

Healthcare Policy Debate

The conversation quickly turns to specific policy details about healthcare legislation. The protester claims the bill takes away millions in funding, while the interviewer counters that the Big Beautiful Bill actually sets aside billions of dollars for rural hospitals and includes provisions making healthcare cheaper for elderly Americans who cannot afford it. He mentions specifically that $50 billion has been allocated for rural hospital funding.

The protester dismisses this as "pennies" compared to what's being cut and questions whether the interviewer has spoken with anyone in rural communities who must drive two hours to have a baby. The interviewer responds that he has indeed spoken with nurses in Kansas working in rural communities and has actually read portions of the legislation himself, encouraging others to do the same rather than rely on media interpretations.

Media Consumption and Information Sources

When challenged about her media diet, the protester questions what outlets the interviewer consults. He responds that he goes across the aisle for all media outlets, including CNN and Fox, and seeks journalists conducting on-the-scene interviews. He emphasizes the importance of reading bills directly rather than accepting media opinions about legislation.

Both participants agree that bills passed through Congress have become too large for most members to read completely, and they need to be smaller and more targeted. However, they disagree sharply on the performance of Massachusetts representatives like Elizabeth Warren and Richard Neal.

Identity Politics and Demographics

The protester suggests the interviewer's criticism of Massachusetts leaders only applies unless the citizen is "female or black or married to someone who doesn't have all their papers or maybe Hispanic or maybe even a little brown-skinned or maybe they're a little different." The interviewer responds that he loves everybody regardless of appearance or lifestyle, but believes leaders like Elizabeth Warren and Governor Maura Healey are actually setting back people in the black community and women.

When asked about Trump's conviction as a sex offender in the E. Jean Carroll case, the interviewer calls it "an absolute sham" and argues accusations don't equal truth, noting that Biden also faced accusations. The protester characterizes Biden as "basically a moral human being" while asserting Trump is not, describing him as "a very sick man" with multiple personality disorders.

The 2024 Election Results

Confronted with the fact that the majority of Americans who voted in 2024 chose Donald Trump, the protester suggests they were "probably ill-informed." When asked whether Kamala Harris being a woman contributed to her loss, she estimates it accounted for 95% of the reason, believing men don't want a woman in the White House and women under their thumbs may not either.

The interviewer points out there are more women than men in the United States and asks about women who voted for Trump because they didn't like Harris on her merits. The protester suggests those women need to "broaden the news outlets they listen to" and says she cannot think of any valid reasons an informed woman or person from a diverse group would vote for Trump.

Criminal Justice Reform

The interviewer brings up the First Step Act, which Trump signed into law, releasing blacks, Hispanics, and other diverse groups from jail for petty marijuana crimes that wouldn't result in arrest today. However, the protester counters by mentioning Trump's pardoning of January 6th participants, which she characterizes as criminals.

The interviewer argues January 6th was blown out of proportion by mainstream media, claiming protesters were guided through the Capitol building by officers who unlocked doors for them. When the protester calls this a conspiracy theory, asking why no officers have admitted to such actions, the interviewer insists video footage exists supporting his claims.

Casualties and Violence

Regarding deaths on January 6th, the interviewer states only one person died that day at the Capitol: Ashley Babbitt, a Trump supporter who was shot and killed. He notes that the police officer who died had a heart attack or stroke the following day, not on January 6th itself. The protester accuses the protesters of desecrating the country.

When asked if she condemns the 2020 BLM riots that caused billions in damages and resulted in deaths, the protester says she condemns all violence but frames the BLM riots as people "incredibly frustrated about years of violence against their people." The interviewer presses whether she agrees people on the left tend to be more violent, pointing out that riots happened after George Floyd's death but vigils, not riots, followed Charlie Kirk's assassination.

The George Floyd Case

The discussion becomes particularly contentious around George Floyd's death. The interviewer states Floyd had a lethal amount of fentanyl in his system according to the coroner's report and was saying "I can't breathe" before being placed on the ground, which he notes is a symptom of fentanyl overdose. He also claims Floyd asked to be put on the ground rather than being forced there.

The protester rejects this as conspiracy theory and right-wing propaganda, insisting Floyd was murdered by a knee on his neck through police brutality. When the interviewer cites the coroner's report, she questions the coroner's politics. The interviewer emphasizes he's citing a primary source document while she's relying on media narratives, calling her position opinion and his position fact.

Charlie Kirk's Assassination

The conversation repeatedly returns to Charlie Kirk's assassination. When the protester describes recent violence as predominantly right-wing, the interviewer points to Kirk's assassination as clear evidence of left-wing violence. The protester acknowledges it was definitely violence from the left but notes Kirk was an individual who acted alone as far as anyone knows.

The interviewer discusses how Congress tried to pass recognition that Charlie Kirk was assassinated for his political beliefs and wanted a day of remembrance, but 58 Democrats voted against it. The protester argues Kirk has been elevated to folk hero status he doesn't deserve and was not a free speech advocate, claiming he would shout people down.

The interviewer defends Kirk's legacy, stating he welcomed gay conservatives and employed over 40 black Americans across the United States to uplift them from inner city communities. He credits Kirk with paving the way for open dialogue through his college campus events where he would speak with professors, students, parents, and anyone who stepped up to the microphone. The interviewer says he wouldn't be doing what he's doing without Kirk's influence.

A Second Protester Joins

A second protester enters the conversation, immediately bringing up Trump's recent statement that 97% of the press he receives is bad and suggesting the press should be eliminated. The protester wanted to make a sign saying if 97% of everything you do is bad, of course you'll get 97% bad press.

When asked if he agrees mainstream media predominantly speaks negatively about Trump, the second protester notes Fox gets more viewers than CNN and references a Fox morning show host suggesting lethal injections for the homeless mentally ill. The interviewer agrees that mainstream media across the spectrum says outlandish and untrue things.

Violence and Political Responsibility

The second protester claims most violence in the country over recent years has been right-wing. The interviewer counters with examples of BLM riots and Kirk's assassination. The protester acknowledges Kirk's assassination was left-wing violence but emphasizes he acted alone as an individual, comparing it to other lone actors who do bad things.

The interviewer brings up Melissa Horton, her husband, her dog, and two other people assassinated by what he describes as a right-wing person. He notes a Republican congressman requested a moment of silence for those victims but argues people on the right aren't saying they deserved it, whereas some on the left have said Kirk deserved his fate.

Consequences for Speech

Discussing people losing their jobs for social media posts about Kirk, including Jimmy Kimmel who falsely claimed the shooter was a MAGA supporter, the second protester says he saw no reason for Kimmel to be fired over that comment. He found it unfunny and saw no evidence in media of MAGA people trying to disclaim the shooter, making it a non-issue for him.

The protester also expresses his view that Kirk doesn't deserve the medal Trump plans to give him, comparing it to Rush Limbaugh's medal, which he believes was also undeserved because Limbaugh "tormented division and anger and hatred."

Charlie Kirk as Hero

When asked how he feels about millions of people viewing Kirk as a hero, the second protester suggests they have a different vision of the world and see Kirk differently than he does. He emphasizes the need to talk across the aisle and have conversations even when they're not easy.

The interviewer shares a quote: "When conversations stop, that's when violence happens. When a married couple stops speaking to each other, that's when divorce happens." He then reveals this is a Charlie Kirk quote, again defending Kirk's commitment to open dialogue and noting anyone could walk up to his microphone and he would engage with them.

Trump Administration Policies

The conversation shifts to broader Trump administration actions. The protester criticizes what he calls the gutting of the EPA and mentions children dying in Africa and people dying of AIDS because of policies Trump has "trashed." He expresses outrage at DOGE actions and people losing their homes because they were fired from federal government positions.

The protester takes issue with renaming the Department of Defense to the War Department. The interviewer notes that was its previous name, to which the protester responds they changed it for good reason. The interviewer disagrees, believing the original name is better.

Immigration and Child Separation

The interviewer raises the issue of 250,000 children lost through the immigration process under Biden's administration, noting Trump has a task force finding tens of thousands of them. The protester says this is new information he's not sure he believes, countering that during Trump's first administration, children were separated at the border from their parents and some still haven't been reunited.

The interviewer points out this also happened under Obama and Biden's administrations, thanking the protester for acknowledging Obama deported more people than Trump and built the cages. He compares it to a parent being arrested for DUI with a child in the backseat—they would be separated and child protective services would intervene.

The protester agrees separation happens but emphasizes that with a DUI, you'd know where your kid is and nobody would hide that information, allowing for eventual reunification. The interviewer notes parents bringing children on the dangerous journey across the southern border are putting them in unsafe situations, which also warrants separation.

Kilmar Abrego Garcia Case

Discussion turns to Kilmar Abrego Garcia, who the interviewer says left El Salvador because of a rival gang while being part of a gang himself, making it not true asylum seeking. The protester states he's never seen proof Garcia was a gang member. The interviewer describes tattoos including abbreviations for MS-13 on his knuckles, a marijuana leaf, skull, and the numbers one and three, plus domestic violence incidents with his wife or girlfriend.

The interviewer emphasizes that in Trump's second administration, families are being deported together rather than separated, quoting Tom Homan's statement that if you entered illegally with your children, you're going back together. He asks if the protester can appreciate this given his opposition to child separation.

Due Process and Deportation

The protester raises concerns about Garcia not being convicted of any crimes in a court of law, questioning deportation without due process, lawyers, or court proceedings. The interviewer responds that deportations without due process are not unheard of, citing Obama, both Bush administrations, and ACLU documentation of such practices.

He explains checks and balances allow the Supreme Court to intervene when presidential actions are unlawful or unconstitutional, which is why Garcia is back in the United States facing child and human trafficking charges with a court date years away. Garcia must check in with ICE but is going through the proper process now. The interviewer argues Trump isn't taking away due process from any citizen.

Racial Targeting Claims

Addressing claims of racial targeting, the interviewer notes white people, Australians, and Canadians have been deported for cyber crimes and illegal presence. He argues that since the majority of illegal immigrants come from the southern border and are Hispanic, it's natural that most deportations involve Hispanics, not because of targeting but because of demographics.

The protester appears to accept this reasoning. When asked if he voted for Obama and Biden knowing they had mass deportation policies and deported without due process, he confirms he did and would vote for them again because Trump does "horrible things" to the CDC, EPA, and other agencies—it's not just a one-issue consideration.

Healthcare Promises and Ukraine Policy

The protester brings up Trump's first campaign promise of a healthcare plan that would cover everybody and cost less. He recalls that after getting into office, Trump wanted to eliminate Obamacare and when questioned said, "Gee, who knew healthcare was complicated?" The protester finds this revealing since everyone knows healthcare is complicated.

On foreign policy, the protester criticizes Trump for saying the Ukraine war would end within 24 hours of his election but it's now been 10 months. The interviewer argues Trump has tried but Vladimir Zelensky has been stubborn in negotiations. The protester expresses outrage that Trump invited Putin to the White House, calling him a murderer who throws people out of windows, poisons opponents, and murders Ukrainians daily.

Negotiating with Adversaries

The interviewer argues that finding solutions requires speaking to both sides, even adversaries. The protester responds you can do that without shaking their bloody hand and accuses Trump of doing nothing to restrict Putin's actions. He notes Trump ensured Europeans would reimburse the U.S. for weapons provided to Ukraine and diverted a big weapons shipment meant for Ukraine to Israel instead.

The interviewer points out the previous administration sent Kamala Harris to solve the Ukraine-Russia situation, but she only spoke with Zelensky and never engaged with Putin. He argues you must hear both sides to reach a solution and that Zelensky is being stubborn. When Putin initially invaded, he told NATO he would stop if Ukraine didn't join NATO, but the Biden administration never consulted with Putin despite his outreach.

The interviewer suggests the war continues because people profit from it and don't want it to end, while Trump has welcomed Zelensky to the White House and met with Putin in Alaska. The protester references Trump's previous performance where "they trashed him royally."

America's Obligations to Ukraine

The interviewer emphasizes America has no treaty promising to protect Ukraine or intervene in the war. The only agreement is a denuclearization deal. He questions why America has responsibility to defend a country with no mutual defense treaty, asking why Americans should lose their lives for Ukraine.

The protester responds it's not about responsibility but caring for other human beings, arguing Trump has no sense of empathy or caring and just wants prizes and accolades like the Nobel Peace Prize. He disputes Trump's claims of creating peace in seven different countries, saying "the man doesn't know what peace is" and "is always promoting violence," recalling Trump's first campaign when he told supporters to beat up demonstrators and promised to pay their lawyer bills.

Trump's Character and Upbringing

The protester reiterates his view that Trump doesn't care and lacks empathy for people, attributing this partly to being raised in a dysfunctional home with resulting personal issues and multiple personality disorders. He characterizes Trump as not the kind of person you want in a position of responsibility, calling it "a sad truth."

He recalls thinking when Trump first ran, "Who the hell wants an arrogant New Yorker in front of our country?" assuming nobody would like an arrogant New Yorker. Yet Trump won, and in the most recent election, he won the popular vote—the first Republican to do so in a long time, which the protester attributes significantly to Charlie Kirk's influence on young men.

America First Philosophy

When the interviewer thanks God for Kirk's influence and says he believes in putting America first to protect Americans, the protester challenges this framing, suggesting "America First" means "we're better and deserve more than everybody else." The interviewer clarifies he means taking care of our own before taking care of others, comparing it to taking care of your own household and family before your neighbor or homeless people, while still donating to charity and providing help.

He argues Trump isn't an American nationalist but still makes trade deals with other countries. The protester shares his bumper sticker philosophy: "Everybody does better when everybody does better." He warns that if neighbors are poor, starving, and desperate, they may eventually rob you and your family won't be safe, so we must take care of everybody even though it's hard.

State-Level Immigration Policy

The interviewer contends the previous administration did nothing to help Americans more than others. He cites Massachusetts Governor Maura Healey housing illegal immigrants in five-star hotels, with some found possessing rifles in Worcester with gang affiliations and large quantities of drugs. He hopes she loses in the 2026 election.

The protester notes everybody in the country has guns, pointing out there are five shooting ranges within walking distance of his house and more shooting ranges in the state than towns. The interviewer's point is that the man caught with a rifle in Worcester was illegal, had gang ties, and possessed drugs, yet Healey houses such people before homeless American citizens.

Homelessness and Mental Health

The interviewer criticizes how Boston, Springfield, and Worcester have mass homelessness with people given drugs for free, allowed to stay on streets without penalty or meaningful help. He brings up California Governor Newsom sweeping homeless people off streets when China's leader visited, only to return them immediately after the visit ended, proving authorities know they can house these people but choose not to.

He mentions homeless veterans with mental health issues the country isn't helping, then describes Trump's executive order to get homeless people off streets, provide psychiatric help, and offer housing and jobs, with prison as consequence for those who refuse. The protester mentions hearing on Fox News a host suggesting lethal injections for such people, calling it "pretty stupid." The interviewer doesn't agree with that opinion but asks if the protester supports Trump's executive order approach of rehabilitation rather than temporary removal like Newsom's actions.

Civil Discourse Achievement

After the extended conversation, the interviewer thanks the protester for the interview, calling it "great political discussion." He identifies himself as Nathan Remillard with Yankee News 1776, noting the protester isn't on social media but thanking him for his time. Both agree this kind of open political discussion is what the country needs.

In his closing remarks to camera, the interviewer reflects on finishing the Trump protest in Hopkinton, Massachusetts, noting he had very good discussions with people and achieved his goal of open dialogue. They discussed topics like Charlie Kirk, the Big Beautiful Bill, and Trump administration actions. While people remain upset with the government, the interviewer disagrees with their positions and came to "disprove and actually try to educate some of them with the facts that they've been lied to with the media." He encourages viewers to follow Yankee News 1776 on all platforms for more videos like this one.

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