BREAKING: Charlie Kirk Told Netanyahu: “Do Your Own Propaganda!” - w/ Max Blumenthal

[00:00] I think a lot of people do blame Israel

[00:02] for Charlie Kirk's uh assassination. I

[00:05] know a lot of people do. And I wonder

[00:07] how many people at the Talking Points

[00:09] USA, not the people in the leadership,

[00:11] but the members, the rank and file

[00:14] college kids, because they're already

[00:16] turned against Israel. And uh I I don't

[00:18] I don't see this coming back the way

[00:20] Benjamin Netanyahu or Donald Trump or

[00:24] anybody uh in leadership at Talking

[00:26] Point University uh thinks it's going to

[00:29] turn out.

[00:31] Before I let you go, is there any uh so

[00:34] you've been all over the place. You

[00:35] wrote that great article exposing the

[00:37] meeting uh with the Aman and all those

[00:40] influencers with Charlie Kirk on Long

[00:43] Island uh in the Hampton. So is is there

[00:46] any what's the most recent update on

[00:48] that?

[00:50] Um,

[00:51] well, I I've had a third po part to it,

[00:54] which is that Robert Schillman, who was

[00:57] one of the foremost,

[01:00] I would say, anti-Islam

[01:02] pro-Israel donors in the US, like really

[01:05] interested in demonizing Muslims as a

[01:07] whole and funding organizations that do

[01:09] that and was a longtime donor to Charlie

[01:12] Kirk through the David Horowitz Freedom

[01:14] Center. Uh, I reported that he pulled

[01:17] out of TPUSA

[01:20] because Charlie Kirk kept giving a

[01:22] platform to Tucker Carlson. He was going

[01:24] to put Marjgery Taylor Green on stage at

[01:26] the next America Fest. And Charlie Kirk

[01:28] was trying to sort of straddle the

[01:30] divide between his Zionist donors who

[01:33] helped make him who he was and the

[01:34] conservative grassroots that was moving

[01:36] away from this and Robert Schillman was

[01:37] like, "I'm out of here. You have to

[01:39] completely tow the Lud line." That's

[01:43] according to multiple many sources.

[01:45] Schillman has, you know, sponsored uh

[01:47] Laura Loomer in the past, Tommy Robinson

[01:50] in the UK and um you know, all these

[01:53] sorts of figures. And so now um

[01:57] Netanyahu or someone close to him has

[01:59] released this letter that Charlie Kirk

[02:01] supposedly

[02:03] delivered to him in the weeks before his

[02:05] death, basically advising him on how to

[02:08] improve Israel's image. and he's

[02:10] basically saying, "You have to do it

[02:12] yourselves. Stop counting on us to do

[02:14] it. It's it's it's sort of embarrassing

[02:16] for me." And uh stop trying to use us to

[02:20] sell your war with Iran. And it's being

[02:22] framed by Bill Aman and other pro-Israel

[02:26] elements as evidence that Charlie Kirk

[02:28] was just a die in the wool Zionist to

[02:31] the end. But it really shows the

[02:33] conflict at the same time. It's a weird

[02:35] letter. It's a digital reproduction with

[02:38] no date on it.

[02:40] And it's not how Netanyahu initially

[02:42] framed it when he attempted to claim the

[02:44] legacy of Charlie Kirk and before a

[02:46] suspect was even arrested. This was in a

[02:48] video message blamed the uh radical left

[02:52] and Muslims in the US to try to spin it

[02:55] against Israel's enemies. I mean that

[02:57] has failed for Netanyahu and since then

[03:00] he's had to come out for some reason he

[03:02] felt compelled not once but twice to

[03:05] deny playing a role in the killing of

[03:07] Charlie Kirk. So this is all part of the

[03:10] propaganda collapse that Israel is

[03:11] experiencing under Netanyahu.

[03:13] >> So you're you're saying that that letter

[03:15] that Netanyahu referenced immediately

[03:18] after Charlie Kirk's assassination and

[03:20] he said I had this letter and he said

[03:22] all these great how much he loved Israel

[03:23] and how he wouldn't be able to come to

[03:26] Israel and that on Benjamin that same

[03:30] letter cuz Candace Owen was saying why

[03:32] don't you read the rest of the letter?

[03:34] Why don't you show the whole letter? And

[03:35] so you're saying you now do have access

[03:37] to that letter and that letter says that

[03:40] what you just said that

[03:41] >> the letter came out and he's saying, you

[03:43] know, I'm pro-Israel and you know, I

[03:45] believe in the Judeo-Christian alliance,

[03:47] but we're I'm summarizing or

[03:49] paraphrasing it, but you're putting all

[03:51] of the weight on our shoulders to do

[03:54] your work. And this needs to come from

[03:56] Israel itself to convince Americans that

[03:58] we should go to war with Iran and stand

[04:00] with Israel. and you know it should come

[04:02] from your media. Which is interesting

[04:05] because I also had a source who is a

[04:08] longtime friend of Charlie Kirk tell me

[04:09] that he had rejected a funding offer

[04:13] from Netanyahu in which Netanyahu would

[04:15] sort of organize his consortium of

[04:17] millionaires and billionaires to pump

[04:19] money into TPUSA in exchange for Charlie

[04:22] Kirk's total obedience on this issue. I

[04:25] would assume that would mean like no

[04:26] more Tucker Carlson keynote speeches and

[04:29] that he rejected it and you know it it's

[04:31] been reported and I reported this that

[04:34] he rejected the trip that Netanyahu

[04:36] offered to Israel as well. I think

[04:38] Charlie Kirk probably was no friend of I

[04:42] there there was no evidence he was like

[04:43] a friend of Palestinians or that he was

[04:45] some anti-war guy but he was suffering

[04:48] from serious Israel fatigue. And that's

[04:50] for sure. Everything I reported was

[04:51] corroborated by Charlie Kirk's public

[04:54] statements. And now we know he lost one

[04:56] of his largest longtime donors, Robert

[04:59] Schillman, who was actually going to

[05:01] have a plaque erected for him at a

[05:03] building inside TPUSA's headquarters.

[05:06] And he said, "No, cancel that. I'm done

[05:08] with you. Maybe they'll take him back

[05:10] now."

[05:11] >> Yeah. Well, it seems that they're trying

[05:14] as hard as they can to turn uh TPUSA

[05:17] into a Zionist organization. Um,

[05:20] >> yeah, they want to bury this issue and

[05:23] uh I don't know where Erica Kirk stands

[05:24] on it. I'll have more reporting just on

[05:27] TPUSA in general and where they're going

[05:30] and so I don't want to telegraph any

[05:32] punches, but it would be much more

[05:35] comfortable for them in dealing with the

[05:37] donor class to bury this issue

[05:40] completely. But at the same time,

[05:42] they're not kicking Tucker Carlson or

[05:44] Marjorie Taylor Green off the stage at

[05:46] their upcoming December event. And

[05:49] that's because they don't want to lose

[05:53] what's left of the grassroots.

[05:56] They I mean they would it would be sort

[05:57] of like a star-studded

[06:02] Super Bowl style extravaganza kind of

[06:04] like the fairly tasteless memorial with

[06:07] pyrochnics but with like no one in the

[06:09] seats like no excitement there. And and

[06:12] another point is uh you know Megan Kelly

[06:14] filled Charlie Kirk's place at one of

[06:17] the stops on his tour where he you know

[06:20] he was killed so he couldn't finish the

[06:22] tour and she was asked many times tough

[06:26] questions about Israel and Israeli

[06:28] influence in the United States

[06:30] specifically about Bill Aman and Robert

[06:33] Schillman like stuff I never thought I

[06:35] would hear conservative youth say in

[06:36] public and she just had to deflect. She

[06:39] had no answer for it at all. This was

[06:41] what Charlie Kirk was sort of expecting.

[06:44] And so he was being very closely managed

[06:47] by a small group of Netanyahu cutouts in

[06:51] the US and Israel. And he was having to

[06:53] have constant Zoom calls with them. They

[06:55] were trying to set up a WhatsApp group

[06:56] with him. And uh they said that he was

[06:59] sort of resistant to it. And you know, I

[07:02] can understand. He wants to advance his

[07:06] agenda in the United States and he just

[07:08] has to do this to please the donors. it

[07:10] would get pretty annoying, if not

[07:12] aggravating, and then they would start

[07:14] attacking him if he didn't say what they

[07:16] wanted.

[07:18] >> Um, and it was kind of bizarre to see

[07:20] the prime minister of Israel twice come

[07:24] out and vehemently deny that he had

[07:27] anything to do with killing Charlie

[07:29] Kirk. That was kind of bizarre

[07:31] >> to see what

[07:32] >> Have you ever seen anything like that?

[07:33] No. Ever? No, I've never seen anything

[07:36] I've never seen anything like a foreign

[07:37] leader uh come to brag about um using

[07:42] social media to propagandize Americans

[07:46] uh for another country. I I've just

[07:48] never it and everybody just like, "Oh

[07:50] yeah, that's normal. It's not normal.

[07:52] Imagine any other leader of any other

[07:54] country saying that and it would be

[07:57] would be be met with outrage and but

[08:00] because it's Israel and because the

[08:03] Donald Trump has bosses who and so the

[08:06] bosses tell him to his boss one of them

[08:08] is Benjamin Netanyahu and um

[08:12] it it's I I just can't get over how

[08:14] bizarre this is. I can't I wish I could

[08:16] fast forward 5 years to see how this all

[08:19] turns out. Uh but I cannot see uh this

[08:22] actually working out at the in in favor

[08:26] of uh Zionism. I just can't see it. It's

[08:29] too far gone. They've made uh an enemy

[08:31] of the entire world, you know, to the

[08:34] point where you have uh countries now

[08:37] like the UK and uh and Spain

[08:40] acknowledging and Canada even

[08:42] acknowledging Palestinian state. You

[08:44] have Italy sending uh ships to protect

[08:46] the flotillas. you have there's there's

[08:49] all kinds of uh the whole world has

[08:51] turned against Israel. They become the

[08:52] pariah and deservedly so. Uh the if they

[08:56] did not have the United States military

[08:57] backing, this would have been over a

[08:59] long time ago and because even their

[09:01] economy is imploding. So um this is the

[09:05] most bizarre thing I've seen. This is

[09:07] desperation. And this is what the

[09:08] establishment does. Authoritarians do

[09:11] and when they're desperate or when

[09:13] they're desperate is they uh try to

[09:15] control the narrative and they try they

[09:16] they clamp down with censorship and

[09:19] conformity. And uh I don't think it's

[09:21] going to work. I think they've already

[09:22] lost I think a lot of people do blame

[09:25] Israel for Charlie Kirk's uh

[09:27] assassination. I know a lot of people

[09:29] do. And I wonder how many people at the

[09:32] Talking Points USA, not the people in

[09:34] the leadership, but the members, the

[09:36] rank and file college kids, because

[09:39] they're already turned against Israel.

[09:40] And uh I I don't I don't see this coming

[09:43] back the way Benjamin Netanyahu or

[09:46] Donald Trump or anybody uh in leadership

[09:49] at Talking Point University uh thinks

[09:51] it's going to turn out. I don't think

[09:53] it's going to turn out that way. I wish

[09:55] we could fast forward, but we can't. Uh,

[09:57] anything you'd like to say before we say

[09:58] goodbye?

[10:00] >> Yeah, I think

[10:02] in a regime that is lo losing or lost

[10:06] all credibility,

[10:08] there's not just going to be, you know,

[10:09] an attempt to control the mind through

[10:12] kind of cognitive warfare, taking over

[10:14] the media in a more naked way than ever

[10:16] before. You know, we're facing a

[10:18] strategy of tension kind of like years

[10:20] of lead will probably define the next

[10:23] five years where as the American public

[10:26] starts to unite against the 1% across

[10:30] the partisan divide, there will be

[10:33] efforts to divide us, including through

[10:36] very strange intelligence intrigues like

[10:39] we saw in Italy for example in 1969

[10:43] when the CIA and NATO under kind of

[10:47] Gladio style operation bombed a cafe in

[10:51] Milan and blamed it on anarchists in

[10:54] order to compel the population to fear

[10:57] change, fear a kind of political

[11:00] insurgency, a revolution, and to

[11:06] hug and to turn to the security state

[11:09] for protection. And that's what we're

[11:11] facing now. I think everybody can kind

[11:12] of see that. and they're starting to

[11:14] question the official narrative more and

[11:16] more. They're just going to keep trying

[11:18] to push us against each other and we

[11:20] have to be aware of what's going on.

[11:22] >> So that's sage advice, right? So the

[11:25] whole idea is divide and conquer.

[11:27] They're going to try and don't be

[11:29] surprised if there's false flag events

[11:32] inside the United States.

[11:33] >> Lots of engraved bullets in the next

[11:34] five years.

[11:35] >> Yeah, lots of engraved bullets. Uh their

[11:38] narrative around the shooter of Charlie

[11:40] Kirk has completely fallen apart. Uh

[11:42] it's it's been it it doesn't take much

[11:45] to see through Cash Patel when he's

[11:47] lying. He's got a million tells and uh

[11:50] it's it's unbelievable. He's his face.

[11:52] It's like he he went to a class to learn

[11:54] how to look guilty when you're when

[11:56] you're lying. And he did it. He's

[11:58] nailing it. And um so none of the stuff

[12:01] they're telling us about that shooter

[12:03] seems to be true. He's not anything. So

[12:06] anyway, it's um you're right. So my

[12:08] advice to the people watching is to be

[12:10] on the lookout for us to them to do a

[12:12] false flag and try to get us to divide

[12:14] each other. They tried to use Charlie

[12:15] Kirk's assassination to divide people uh

[12:19] to to get it back from to a leftright

[12:21] divide and Donald Trump's better clamp

[12:23] down on the left and their violence and

[12:24] the left's going to push back on ICE.

[12:26] And so this is all to keep us fighting

[12:29] each other so we don't come together

[12:30] against the 1% which is instituting

[12:33] right now through Palunteer through Tik

[12:35] Tok through and you heard him say even

[12:37] Twitter they're a surveillance state uh

[12:40] a Chinese style credit system uh they've

[12:43] rolled it out the the with the vaccine

[12:45] passports that was their uh trial

[12:48] balloon and now they know they can keep

[12:49] going and it's not going to be uh it's

[12:52] not going to be voluntary it's going to

[12:53] be mandatory and we're all going to be

[12:55] on digital ID and it's going to be a

[12:57] surveillance state. And uh I the good

[13:00] thing is that I know MAGA hates that.

[13:02] And so uh the now we got to make sure

[13:05] the left is on board with that because

[13:07] the left was all for a surveillance

[13:08] state when Don when Joe Biden was uh

[13:11] president. They did they didn't care

[13:12] about your civil rights. They didn't

[13:14] care about my body, my choice, your

[13:16] body. They didn't care about any of

[13:17] that. They were all for

[13:18] authoritarianism. They were all for

[13:20] censorship. The the hallmarks of

[13:22] fascists. The so the I think the real

[13:25] challenge is going to be get the people

[13:26] who vote Democrat to wake up to this and

[13:29] stop hating half the country. If you

[13:31] find yourself hate hating and blaming

[13:33] other workers for the problems in

[13:35] America, you know you lost the plot. The

[13:37] plot is to keep us divided so we don't

[13:40] come together. Um that's that's what I

[13:43] have to say. Uh thank you very much Max

[13:45] for showing up. I appreciate it. Great

[13:47] job everybody. Check out uh his work

[13:49] over at the Grey Zone. He's got a third

[13:51] part coming out on this whole thing. We

[13:53] look forward to it and we look forward

[13:54] to your uh your insight about what's

[13:56] happening with Turning Point USA. Can't

[13:58] wait to read it. Thanks, pal.

[14:00] >> Thanks a lot, Jimmy. Great seeing you.

[14:02] >> Okay, you too.

[14:03] >> Take care, Steph.

[14:03] >> Bye-bye, Betty.

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