Candace Owens Exposes Disturbing Questions Surrounding Charlie Kirk Assassination and Erika Kirk's Suspicious Behavior

[00:00] Well, the Aspen people who were at the

[00:01] event said that never happened.

[00:03] >> What?

[00:03] >> These are the Turning Point USA donors

[00:05] who have contacted me and said,

[00:06] "Candice, that is AI." He did not say

[00:08] that.

[00:09] >> What? Now, they have alleged that they

[00:10] have the video of that. Why do they only

[00:12] play the audio? And I obviously have a

[00:15] lot of resentment, particularly for Cash

[00:16] Patel because of the Charlie Kirk

[00:18] situation. looking at what he has done.

[00:20] The fact that he won't hand over the

[00:22] documents and the theater of that, the

[00:25] theater of how they came out and uh oh

[00:28] gosh, it makes me so sick. You have no

[00:31] idea how sick it all makes me to reflect

[00:33] upon just the fact that Charlie

[00:35] empowered these people like that. Like

[00:37] it makes me sick. Well, I mean, look, I

[00:41] So, I started watching I I had never

[00:44] watched your show until after he was

[00:46] assassinated cuz I'm like there there's

[00:48] something off. And she knew him better

[00:50] than anyone else in the media. So, let

[00:52] me see what she's got. But, I've got so

[00:55] much going on and it was hard to follow

[00:56] your like, you know, your investigation

[00:58] because there were so many moving parts

[01:00] and I got to produce a show and so I

[01:02] just kind of like dropped off a little

[01:03] bit. But what were you saying about Cash

[01:07] Patel's refusal to hand over documents?

[01:09] I don't know about that.

[01:10] >> So, the trial, I'm obviously on top of

[01:12] it because they

[01:14] >> I I really do think that what they're so

[01:16] angry about right now,

[01:18] >> more broadly speaking, is that we're

[01:20] staying focused on things.

[01:21] >> We are designed to be an ADHD culture.

[01:24] >> Charlie died yesterday. I forgive him.

[01:26] Okay, everybody, move on. We're all

[01:27] good. We're Let's move on. She's moved

[01:28] on. Everyone, forget about it. Uh

[01:30] Epstein files. Oh, who are we talking

[01:32] about? The Epste files. Okay, good.

[01:33] Let's move on. Let's move on. Okay.

[01:34] Trump says it's good and you're MAGA,

[01:36] right? Here's some red meat. You're

[01:37] MAGA. Trump said it. Lantern the king.

[01:39] Yeah.

[01:40] >> And we're not doing that. We're not

[01:42] move. We're not doing that. And with

[01:44] this, I was like, I am not moving on

[01:46] from this. And so the midterms. Exactly.

[01:48] We've signed up. We're getting the

[01:49] documents obviously, but the midterms

[01:52] and uh in this particular case, so they

[01:55] uh obviously I sat down with Erica and

[01:57] she explained to me they were sort of

[01:58] moving towards this May date or where he

[02:00] he hasn't even entered a plea yet to be

[02:02] clear. And so in May, they're supposed

[02:05] to have this hearing and there's limited

[02:07] discovery in that in that time frame

[02:08] because one of the questions I asked

[02:10] Erica uh sincerely was you're

[02:12] communicating to the public that you

[02:15] believe they have the right guy. So my

[02:17] assumption when she was saying that to

[02:18] Barry Weiss was that they obviously she

[02:20] has access to more information than we

[02:22] have like as you know she's involved in

[02:24] the case. She's listed as a victim on

[02:25] the case. Like she can see stuff that we

[02:26] can't see. Maybe it's literally a clear

[02:28] video of Tyler Robinson coming out and

[02:30] shooting Charlie. Like open to that. And

[02:31] then when I sat down with her, she was

[02:32] like, "Oh, no. I haven't I don't have

[02:33] anything more than the public has

[02:35] because we're now what happens is we

[02:37] have to move towards this May date and

[02:39] the um SBI, which is the uh Bureau of

[02:44] Investigations in Utah, is the state

[02:46] investigations in Utah. They're going to

[02:47] go now find the all of this evidence

[02:50] that Tyler Robinson did it." And Tyler

[02:53] Robinson then they present that to Tyler

[02:54] Robinson's team and they then build

[02:56] their sort of defense leading to this

[02:59] May date. Well, it turns out that Tyler

[03:02] Robbins's team false document and says,

[03:04] "We need to move the state because they

[03:06] we have been asking for Cash Patel, who

[03:09] should not even be involved in this

[03:10] case, mind you, it's a state case,

[03:12] >> to release the information to us to give

[03:14] us these documents to his defense, to

[03:17] his defense." So, like they're like, "He

[03:18] haven't even given it to Utah. Forget

[03:19] SBI. He hasn't given it to the SBI. The

[03:21] defense doesn't have it." and they're

[03:23] like, "How are we going to have this

[03:25] hearing when they're going to get up

[03:26] there and essentially put on a show

[03:28] trial and say, "Your honor, look at

[03:29] these messages." Where they're like, "We

[03:30] don't even know those messages are

[03:32] real." That's crazy,

[03:32] >> right? So, imagine you're you're we're

[03:34] moving toward this date and all they

[03:36] have is what Cash Patel told us in the

[03:38] first 48 hours, but they will not give

[03:40] them the discovery on that. They won't

[03:42] give them. So, like, if I say Anna

[03:44] texted me and said she did it, and that

[03:46] they want to say that blah blah blah,

[03:48] she hasn't even been able, the defense

[03:49] has not even been able to access Tyler

[03:50] Robinson's phone. They haven't been able

[03:52] to see the gun. Nothing.

[03:53] >> Wow.

[03:54] >> And what's holding that up?

[03:56] >> That is weird. And also, what's up with

[03:57] the arbitrary May date, right?

[04:00] >> Yeah. They So, and that was the thing.

[04:01] They fought back immediately cuz they

[04:02] were like, "We want to make sure that

[04:03] like we get the discovery that we're

[04:04] asking for." And the judge was like,

[04:05] "Oh, it'll be fine. Don't worry about

[04:06] it." By then in May, if we need to bump

[04:08] it, we will. And they all kind of agreed

[04:10] to that. And now that May is upon us, um

[04:13] Erica's team, cuz she's a listed victim.

[04:15] So, when I say Erica's team, I mean

[04:16] literally, she's a victim in this case,

[04:18] is fighting them. They're like, "No, we

[04:19] want to keep the May date." And I'm

[04:20] like, Why would you want to keep the May

[04:22] date? And I instantly alerted the public

[04:25] to that. I'm like, they are not giving

[04:27] them. They have no We have no idea these

[04:29] shady messages.

[04:31] >> Did Cash Patel uh after a few beers type

[04:34] them up? We don't know. We can't say no.

[04:36] >> That's so weird. You know what? So, when

[04:38] it comes to Erica's behavior, like I

[04:40] will admit like some of her behavior is

[04:42] odd, right? And off-putting. And I try

[04:45] to give people the benefit of the doubt.

[04:47] And I wonder if, you know, her

[04:50] insistence that it's Tyler Robinson and

[04:53] nothing else is shady and like we need

[04:55] to pursue this prosecution. It's

[04:56] definitely him. I wonder if it's

[04:58] because, you know, when a a family

[05:00] member of yours gets murdered or killed

[05:02] or harmed in some way. Usually the

[05:05] family members want closure so badly

[05:07] that they as soon as there's a suspect,

[05:08] they want that suspect to be the guilty

[05:10] one and they just go for it full force.

[05:13] And maybe that's what's

[05:16] informing her decisions to kind of

[05:18] pursue it the way that she's pursuing

[05:19] it. I don't know. But I will say this.

[05:23] I actually I don't know how I would

[05:24] behave to be honest. Like I just think

[05:26] about how much I love my husband and I I

[05:30] I don't think anyone would see me for a

[05:31] few years. Like I just would not be able

[05:33] to go public. I wouldn't be able to have

[05:36] the strength to even talk in public

[05:38] about anything. And so that stood out to

[05:41] me about her. But also, she's a

[05:43] different person than me. So, I I just

[05:46] people people do grieve differently. I

[05:48] just know that the case itself has a few

[05:51] elements to it that raise some eyebrows.

[05:54] >> Everyone in the media that's critical of

[05:56] you is like so voseiferous that it kind

[05:59] of gave me the idea that like the

[06:02] general public isn't with you until I

[06:04] told um female family members of mine

[06:06] that I'm doing your show and they're

[06:07] like, "Oh my god, I love Candace. I

[06:09] watch her every day." And I'm like,

[06:10] "Really? you're not mad at her because

[06:12] of the whole Erica thing. They're like,

[06:13] "No, no." And I'm like, "Really?" Like,

[06:15] I couldn't believe it. So,

[06:17] >> yeah,

[06:17] >> clearly what you're seeing is something.

[06:19] And I mean, the numbers in your show,

[06:21] like it's very highly viewed. Okay. So,

[06:24] obviously the people agree with you that

[06:26] there's something off and I agree with

[06:27] you that there's something off. I just

[06:28] don't know what it is. Yeah. And I think

[06:30] that what you're describing in is the

[06:33] process that we all went through because

[06:36] you don't want to even go down that

[06:39] route. Maybe it's maybe in my head I was

[06:41] like maybe she's being blackmailed.

[06:42] Maybe she's scared they're going to kill

[06:43] her. Maybe like like you said, she just

[06:46] wants a quick conclusion to all of this.

[06:48] Maybe she's still in shell shock and is

[06:50] actually not controlling anything at

[06:51] turning point was my initial suspicion

[06:53] and just on paper she's CEO but she's

[06:55] actually just home crying every day and

[06:57] like behind the scenes like you know

[06:58] Justin. I went through that whole thing

[07:00] and

[07:01] >> for me I never wanted to arrive at Erica

[07:06] being suspicious. I didn't abstained

[07:09] from the like, oh, she's wearing hot

[07:11] pants with J. None of that matters to me

[07:13] because I don't think people understand.

[07:15] I needed it as a part of my grieving

[07:18] process not to accept that plausibility

[07:21] because then for me beyond just having

[07:24] lost Charlie and having to wake up to

[07:27] then I then had to wake up to the idea

[07:28] that Trump betrayed him in a way and

[07:31] Cash Patel, everyone is betraying him

[07:34] and not want seeking more investigation.

[07:37] what I I had to go through to pursue

[07:39] that for it was I had to grieve again,

[07:42] right? Because I knew how much Charlie

[07:43] wanted love. Like I have these messages

[07:45] like I was helping Charlie draft text

[07:48] messages and what should I say? So I had

[07:51] to grieve again

[07:54] >> and go, okay, I need to like really just

[07:56] follow the facts here. And that's all

[07:57] I've done. And um it's landed me at

[08:00] she's remarkably suspicious. Not because

[08:02] of the way she dresses, not because of

[08:03] whether or not she's crying enough. All

[08:05] of that kind of paints a picture that

[08:06] makes people uncomfortable, but just

[08:09] objective lies. Objective lies that I

[08:12] can't comprehend. Why would you lie and

[08:14] tell the public? And I think for me, the

[08:15] most explosive one that no one wants to

[08:17] uh address by calling me a monster. Why

[08:20] would you lie and say that the surgeon

[08:24] told you or told Andrew that he had a

[08:26] Superman neck and all this stuff? That

[08:28] objectively did not come from the

[08:30] surgeon. It came from Erica. And why

[08:32] would you lie and tell me that Andrew

[08:34] went rogue and sent that message when

[08:36] you did it with him? I can't I can't

[08:37] make sense of that.

[08:39] >> Um a a source uh you know a source and I

[08:43] trust the source and obviously that's a

[08:45] strong statement to make. And so when

[08:47] Erica first said to me I also didn't

[08:49] believe her right. So when she said,

[08:51] "Oh," I said, "What's the Superman

[08:52] neck?" And she said, "Oh, well, you

[08:53] know, Andrew went rogue." And then I

[08:55] said, "The surgeon went rogue though and

[08:56] talked to the surgeon violated HIPPA and

[08:58] Andrew went and beyond having the

[09:01] conversation, Andrew then tweeted

[09:02] without your permission." Like that's a

[09:03] lot to have had to happen. I don't

[09:05] believe that the surgeon violated HIPPA

[09:06] and spoke to Andrew without your

[09:08] permission. And I said that to her face.

[09:09] I said,

[09:10] >> "That's a tough one for me, but okay."

[09:12] And then I got the information that no,

[09:14] Erica actually called the surgeon. It's

[09:17] a three-way call. and she wanted to know

[09:19] what to tell the public about why the

[09:21] bullet didn't go through and that

[09:23] Superman neck thing came from her. So,

[09:25] the public was told from Andrew.

[09:27] >> So, I'm like I can't somebody just

[09:29] defend it. Somebody just tell me why

[09:30] that shouldn't completely unnerve me.

[09:34] >> Donors the another huge one where like

[09:37] these are my two biggest things. Donors

[09:40] saying that that video that or or hasn't

[09:43] existed yet. the AI, alleged AI of

[09:46] Charlie saying, "I appoint Erica to be

[09:48] the CEO." Erica told me that he said

[09:50] that at an Aspen event. I was like,

[09:52] "Okay, great."

[09:53] >> Well, the Aspen people who were at the

[09:55] event said that never happened.

[09:56] >> What?

[09:57] >> These are the Turning Point USA donors

[09:59] who have contacted me and said,

[10:00] "Candice, that is AI." He did not say

[10:02] that.

[10:02] >> What?

[10:03] >> Now, they have alleged that they have

[10:04] the video of that. Why do they only play

[10:06] the audio?

[10:07] >> And then when I said, "Hey guys, um,

[10:09] this is not normal. It doesn't actually

[10:10] really sound like Charlie. the cadence

[10:12] is somewhat off and I said, "Okay, so

[10:14] just drop the video so we can all put

[10:16] this to bed." Not only that, people at

[10:18] Turning Point told me that he never said

[10:20] that at this event. Okay, so what am I

[10:22] left to do? I You guys mentioned this to

[10:25] the public. You said that Charlie two

[10:27] weeks before, I guess, had done a

[10:28] complete 180 on his entire life's

[10:30] perspective that women should stay home

[10:32] and raise the children and not be CEOs.

[10:34] And suddenly he was like, "You know

[10:35] what? Actually, not only should women do

[10:36] it, but single women should do it.

[10:38] Widows should do it. and the kids should

[10:40] just be raised by the nanny and they

[10:41] they should work 80 hour weeks.

[10:42] >> That does seem uncharacteristic of

[10:44] Charlie Kur,

[10:45] >> completely uncharacteristic of

[10:47] everything he's ever said.

[10:48] >> In fact, one of the last conversations I

[10:50] had with him was at the Democratic

[10:52] National Convention and um look, I

[10:54] always appreciated the fact that he was

[10:56] down to debate, right? And that he

[10:57] didn't ever let it get dirty like

[11:00] >> and so I I I appreciated that. And so we

[11:02] started debating about the role of women

[11:05] and he basically said cuz I don't have

[11:07] children. I don't plan on having

[11:08] children. It's just a decision that me

[11:10] and my husband made together. And

[11:12] honestly, I don't think that I have the

[11:14] right temperament to be a mom in today's

[11:15] society because I will definitely kill

[11:17] people if they come anywhere. Like what

[11:20] they're doing to my husband right now if

[11:21] they tried to like harm my kids

[11:23] >> prison.

[11:24] >> I Yeah, I would 100%. I don't give a

[11:26] damn. That's how I am. I'm like fiercely

[11:29] loyal and defensive of my family. Um but

[11:31] anyway, um he told me, "Well, you know,

[11:34] if you don't have kids, you don't really

[11:35] have a stake in the future of this

[11:36] country. And I just remember being very

[11:39] offended by that because I love this

[11:41] country so much and I definitely do have

[11:43] a stake in the future. Like I have

[11:44] young, you know, nieces and nephews that

[11:46] I love to death, but even if I didn't, I

[11:49] love the people of this country. Like I

[11:50] want it to succeed. And so, and so in

[11:53] that conversation, he like really

[11:55] reiterated what he believes the role of

[11:58] women should be. So then after he gets

[12:00] assassinated and you don't really

[12:03] question it at first because you don't

[12:05] want to be that guy or that person who's

[12:06] just like I don't know that sounds a

[12:08] little shady and weird

[12:10] >> and you go along to get along. That's a

[12:11] good example of a story where you go

[12:13] along to get along. But yeah, there was

[12:16] this feeling within me where it's like

[12:18] well maybe he was willing to go against

[12:20] his beliefs or his values because he

[12:23] wants to make sure that the business

[12:25] falls in the hands of a family member,

[12:28] right? Maybe that's why. But I just I do

[12:30] find it strange. I do.

[12:31] >> But it goes against common sense cuz not

[12:33] only the story we're being told is like

[12:35] specifically he said if anything ever

[12:37] happens to me, meaning like if I get

[12:38] killed, I want my wife to be the next

[12:40] person that gets into the line of fire

[12:41] while my kids are at home. Like what?

[12:43] Like no. That's a good point. Actually,

[12:44] your instinct is then no, shut this

[12:46] down. You go and move and stay away from

[12:49] politics forever and protect our

[12:51] children. So it defies common sense. And

[12:54] I know what Charlie's perspectives were.

[12:56] obviously the light that he wanted and

[12:58] what he said every time anybody asked

[13:00] him on his podcast. I mean, we have a

[13:02] decade of Charlie saying what he what

[13:03] his perspective perspective was on how

[13:05] women should stay home and there's no

[13:06] value in becoming a CEO and then

[13:08] suddenly it's whiplash and we're told

[13:09] actually right before he died he just

[13:10] had this amazing 180 that nobody it was

[13:13] a you know private donor event and now

[13:15] the donors are saying it didn't happen

[13:17] and that that is AI. Okay, that's a very

[13:20] big claim that I am making, right? And

[13:22] I'm not making that claim. By the way,

[13:23] the donors are contacting me and saying

[13:26] this never happened because they

[13:27] couldn't believe it because they said

[13:28] they were watching my podcast and when

[13:30] they had heard it initially when Erica

[13:31] told the story to Megan Kelly, they

[13:33] thought, "Oh, it must have been at the

[13:34] Hampton's or whatever it was." And then

[13:36] when I said it was Aspen, they were

[13:39] shocked. They said, "This absolutely

[13:41] does not happen." So, if I'm lying about

[13:43] that, wouldn't you, if you're Andrew

[13:45] Kovette, instantly say, "Oh, here's the

[13:48] video, Candace." Like, I don't know,

[13:50] maybe the donor forgot, but here it is.

[13:51] And now we're suddenly going, "Why

[13:52] didn't they drop the video?"

[13:54] >> Yeah.

[13:54] >> Like, they had her walk out to the

[13:55] audio. That would have been a very

[13:56] powerful Could you imagine? You have a

[13:59] video of Charlie on stage at an event

[14:00] and he says like, "I want Erica Kirk. I

[14:02] appoint Erica Kirk to be the CEO." Like,

[14:05] people would have had not had a dry eye

[14:07] in the place.

[14:08] I think it would have like even more

[14:10] people around her and said, "Okay, I

[14:12] don't love it, but like it is it was

[14:14] like Charlie's dying wish."

[14:16] >> And Blake Nef says, "We're never

[14:18] dropping the video."

[14:19] >> That's so weird.

[14:20] >> It's bonkers. And so I have there are

[14:22] are real things that are compelling me

[14:24] to continue this pursuit. I'm not

[14:26] interested in the vanity of like, you

[14:28] know, her outfits or her makeup. And

[14:31] >> you're under tremendous fire right now.

[14:34] I mean, it's I can't even imagine like

[14:37] people in the media are really going at

[14:39] it like just trying to, you know, attack

[14:42] you for being cruel and and you know,

[14:44] going after Erica and like I do think

[14:47] that they put words in your mouth

[14:48] sometimes and say things that you didn't

[14:50] actually say. But, you know, the other

[14:53] thing that I mean, look, you tend to

[14:57] provide receipts when you have them,

[14:59] right? And so everyone was denying what

[15:01] you were saying about the very real

[15:03] pressure campaign that Charlie was

[15:05] undergoing. And when you released those

[15:07] text messages, I was like, "Oh my gosh,

[15:10] like this is this is a big deal."

[15:13] >> And I'm not saying that it's definitive

[15:15] that there's like a connection uh to his

[15:17] assassination. But just knowing what he

[15:20] was going through personally behind the

[15:22] scenes in the months leading up to his

[15:24] assassination is um information that

[15:28] maybe the FBI should be pursuing. No. or

[15:31] if you if you are the wife of Charlie

[15:33] Kirk

[15:35] >> um wouldn't heads be rolling like would

[15:37] I I the last people

[15:40] >> that would ever have a platform at

[15:42] Turning Point USA if I was the helm of

[15:43] it were the people who stressed him out

[15:45] who pressured him who

[15:46] >> I would go to war with Josh Hammer

[15:49] >> if that were my husband and Josh Hammer

[15:51] was lying about what my husband actually

[15:54] believed

[15:55] I would be at war with him right

[15:57] >> till this day

[15:58] >> immediate partnership with all of all of

[16:00] his enemies.

[16:00] >> It's crazy. They can't make sense of

[16:02] that. Weird. I can't make sense of that.

[16:04] Everybody knows Ben and Charlie hated

[16:05] each other. Like it's like just a known

[16:07] thing in politics. Like they just never

[16:09] got along and then he's opening and it

[16:12] doesn't make sense to me. Setting aside

[16:13] my personal feelings for Ben, uh which

[16:15] were always in line with Charlie's

[16:16] because of how he behaves behind the

[16:18] scenes. How do you explain that?

[16:20] >> Yeah. He comes in with a million dollar

[16:22] check, sits in a chair, and then just

[16:23] says not. Like, it's like that doesn't

[16:25] make sense to the public because a

[16:27] normal reaction to a loved one is

[16:29] everybody who caused them grief, who put

[16:31] pressure on their donors, who uh how

[16:33] about me having to be the one to tell

[16:35] people that he the night before texted

[16:39] and said that he thought they were going

[16:41] to kill him. And not only that, but she

[16:43] explicitly denied that I'm going back

[16:45] until I clocked it and said, "Well,

[16:47] Andrew Kovette told me that he was one

[16:48] of the ones that received it." And then

[16:50] it became the story about, oh, maybe it

[16:52] was in Telegram. Dan Flood received a

[16:54] message as well. It wasn't on Telegram.

[16:56] It was on iMessage. So, who who deleted

[16:58] it? Or or were you lying or did somebody

[17:01] delete it? Okay, I want to give you the

[17:02] benefit of the doubt. Maybe someone took

[17:04] his phone in between and deleted all

[17:05] that.

[17:06] >> I don't even know why you have his phone

[17:07] actually. I feel like that should be an

[17:08] evidence. But it's it becomes

[17:11] increasingly hard that no one is

[17:13] attacking the substance of what I'm

[17:14] presenting. They're just saying like,

[17:17] "How dare you? How dare you keep telling

[17:19] the truth about what Charlie was going

[17:21] through? How dare you present to the

[17:22] public that he did not die a

[17:24] Judeo-Christian and that he was angry

[17:27] with how he was being treated?

[17:29] >> Well, there was one other thing that I

[17:30] thought was interesting, right?

[17:34] The audio of uh Tyler Robinson's

[17:37] grandfather, remember Tyler Robinson

[17:40] allegedly was like turned in by his

[17:42] family. his like family knew he was

[17:44] guilty and they No, it turns out his

[17:46] grandfather whose weapon he allegedly

[17:48] used, right, to carry out the

[17:50] assassination was there at the trial

[17:53] defending his grandson. But we were all

[17:55] led to believe that the family, you

[17:56] know, knew that Tyler Robinson is guilty

[17:59] and are not supporting him in this

[18:01] process.

[18:02] >> Everything has been a lie. And I've I've

[18:04] told the public that. I'm like, when

[18:05] this case gets going, you're going to

[18:07] see that everything's a lie. And so, we

[18:08] are left asking the question is, why are

[18:10] they lying? And I I'm sorry that we're

[18:13] rational thinkers and we are seeing how

[18:15] >> I don't trust my government. Like it's

[18:16] it's that simple. I just don't trust the

[18:19] government. That's where we're at. So I

[18:22] I feel like anyone who doesn't have a

[18:24] healthy dose of skepticism

[18:26] needs to get some. Okay. Because

[18:28] >> BB's radical denials when no one was

[18:30] pointing the finger at him was also kind

[18:32] of just like weird.

[18:33] >> Yeah.

[18:33] >> I didn't kill Charlie Kirk. I I didn't I

[18:35] I didn't kill Charlie Kirk. Why Why are

[18:36] you saying that right now?

[18:37] >> I know. That was pretty wild. First of

[18:39] all, why was he on a US media tour on

[18:43] the day that he got assassinated?

[18:46] >> I like I don't care what Netanyahu

[18:48] thinks about anything that happens in

[18:49] our country at all. He should be in

[18:51] prison for the rest of his life uh as a

[18:53] war criminal because that's what he is.

[18:56] Why are we hosting him on media shows

[18:58] here in the US to chime in on Charlie

[19:01] Kirk's assassination?

[19:02] >> It's bonkers. I have resisted

[19:07] like allowing myself to believe that

[19:09] there's like a wider conspiracy because

[19:11] you just don't want to believe it.

[19:13] >> But I will say this, I nothing adds up.

[19:16] Like this whole situation doesn't add

[19:18] up. And I do find it very strange that

[19:20] the person who wants to ask questions

[19:22] and look, you might pursue threads that

[19:25] don't go anywhere. And I think people

[19:27] have a problem with that, right? They

[19:28] feel like, oh, you're incriminating

[19:29] individuals who are innocent. Like

[19:31] that's the big argument I hear against

[19:32] you. But I don't think you'd be pursuing

[19:34] this if you felt like there was an

[19:36] adequate investigation being done. And I

[19:37] myself agree with you that there isn't

[19:39] an adequate investigation being done.

[19:41] >> And he went toe-to-toe with BB and he

[19:43] won over the Iran war. And I think that

[19:45] people have to understand that we're

[19:47] sitting here talking about how he feels

[19:48] nothing as he mass murders children. The

[19:50] way that he lies is also there's

[19:52] something so psychopathic about it when

[19:54] he just gets on and pretends he's

[19:55] perpetually the victim and he's just

[19:58] killing people all day, every homicidal

[20:00] maniac who is supported by the halls of

[20:02] Congress who gets a standing ovation

[20:04] when he walks into Congress. So if

[20:06] that's possible, if it's plausible for

[20:08] these people not to want to spit in his

[20:10] direction when he walks by them, uh then

[20:13] we have to imagine that would you think

[20:14] you'd have an issue like doing something

[20:16] to Charlie Kirk? He it means nothing to

[20:18] these and I'm not saying that we have

[20:20] evidence that BB Netanyahu did

[20:23] >> but I am saying that the way in which he

[20:25] reacted and me knowing how they wanted

[20:27] this war so badly and that Charlie at

[20:30] first stood in the way of it literally

[20:32] like debated and got Trump not to do

[20:35] anything more than that limited a

[20:37] military operation um when they when

[20:40] they bombed Fort

[20:41] >> and the other was it tons the other

[20:43] nuclear sites and BB was pissed and then

[20:45] we fast forward Charlie's out of the And

[20:47] what are we doing? Everything BB wanted

[20:49] to be done. So