Candace Owens SLAMS Turning Point USA For Continuing To Lie About Charlie Kirk

[00:00] They're gaslighting you and then they're

[00:02] diagnosing you. Yes, we are asking

[00:04] questions. No, we are not akin to people

[00:08] that watch pornography all day. And no,

[00:10] we're not getting high on it. We're

[00:12] going to get high when we find out what

[00:14] actually happened. That's going to feel

[00:15] like a high to us, right? That's going

[00:16] to be that natural rush that we feel

[00:18] when we've actually solved what happened

[00:20] to Charlie Kirk.

[00:22] >> And Sons just slammed Turning Point USA

[00:25] for continuing to lie about Charlie

[00:27] Kirk. This after Turning Point USA

[00:30] produced some information, some

[00:32] explanation, let's call it, for his

[00:35] chief of staff, Mikey McCoy's reaction

[00:37] to the murder within a second of it

[00:40] happening, either placing, taking, or

[00:42] continuing a call. Why Candace doesn't

[00:45] think that this argument's plausible.

[00:46] Let's take a look. Please like the video

[00:48] and subscribe to the channel.

[00:49] >> Okay, let's jump in here to TPUSA's

[00:52] response to the Mikey McQue. It wasn't

[00:55] really a response because to be fair,

[00:57] they did their episode before my episode

[00:59] went out. Charlie Kirk's show is before

[01:00] my show is, but it was their response to

[01:03] the Mikey McCoy video going viral. So,

[01:06] not a response to me, but rather a

[01:07] response to the people who had pulled

[01:09] this out um who had discovered this over

[01:12] the weekend. So, like James Lee, Ian

[01:14] Carol, Sam Parker. And here is what

[01:17] Andrew Kul had to say. is going to tell

[01:19] us that

[01:21] Mikey was told to do this in the event

[01:24] of this type of an emergency by you

[01:27] guessed it Charlie Kirk. Take a listen.

[01:30] >> Here's the last thing I want to make a

[01:31] point of. And Charlie cuz Charlie had

[01:33] given me similar instructions along the

[01:36] years. Said if anything ever happens to

[01:38] me you call Erica. That is and he

[01:40] drilled that into Mikey's brain so that

[01:43] when this moment of trauma happened that

[01:46] he turned around and he knew how to do

[01:48] it. And by the way, I just last thing

[01:49] because this is part of the the video

[01:51] allegations here is that they think they

[01:54] they're alleging that he was on the

[01:55] phone immediately. He was not. He was

[01:57] taking social videos which he would send

[01:59] to our group chat which we would then

[02:00] put on Charlie social while the event

[02:02] was happening so you could see like the

[02:03] crowd come in or his interactions. And

[02:05] we were only two questions into this

[02:07] event. So he was still getting it out to

[02:09] all the chats he needed to do which he

[02:10] did at every event. He turns around and

[02:13] it was so blaringly loud. I'm told you

[02:15] would know this better than this is what

[02:16] I'm told. It was so blaringly loud and

[02:18] he was so shell shocked. He put his

[02:19] fingers in his ear but his phone was

[02:21] still in his hand. He walks away

[02:24] >> and he's I mean

[02:25] >> not even not even walk I want to cuz

[02:27] people are talking about that. The way

[02:29] it was is we had a cordoned off area

[02:31] with you know rates so you could had

[02:33] controlled access.

[02:34] >> All the people when this happens they

[02:36] all get the idea we should leave before

[02:38] we are shot. And so there's a little

[02:40] narrow gap that I think people it's not

[02:43] really walking, it's that everyone has

[02:44] to slow up to get through this little

[02:46] narrow choke point to get out of the

[02:47] area.

[02:50] >> Okay. Elsewhere they say that so

[02:52] basically he was on the phone, he was

[02:54] holding his ears. Okay.

[02:55] >> And then once he got out into the

[02:57] distance beyond Charlie but beyond the

[02:59] car that Charlie would be carried into

[03:00] is when he called Erica first and then

[03:03] his father. That's what they tell us.

[03:05] Now, in regards to him saying that Mikey

[03:08] was taking social videos, I can tell you

[03:11] it tracks that Mikey would be taking

[03:13] videos behind like, you know, when

[03:14] Charlie first comes out of the event,

[03:16] he's throwing hats. That tracks that def

[03:18] absolutely is a thing at Turning Point

[03:20] USA. You follow the person to get behind

[03:22] the scenes. I would have Savannah do

[03:24] this. Before Mikey McCoy did this, it

[03:26] was Sarah Schmackenberger. Uh, and they

[03:29] do that. They like the behind-the-scenes

[03:30] reactions. But in this particular video,

[03:33] he's not standing where you can get a

[03:36] view of Charlie asking a question.

[03:38] >> Yeah, I think she's right about that. He

[03:40] wouldn't be doing that. It doesn't seem

[03:42] like from the footage that he was

[03:44] pointing his camera in that direction.

[03:46] He did seem to be pointing it out to the

[03:48] crowds though at certain points or at

[03:50] least holding the phone up and touching

[03:52] the phone in those moments. And if he

[03:54] was taking pictures of the crowds, that

[03:57] might be an a plausible explanation

[03:59] here. Now, I'm a little bit surprised

[04:01] Candace didn't show well, we'll see what

[04:03] else she shows, but there was a time in

[04:06] this clip. I watched this entire clip

[04:07] from Turning Point USA where Andrew

[04:10] Kovit says that, you know, Mikey McCoy

[04:13] doesn't actually remember exactly what

[04:15] transpired in those moments after

[04:17] Charlie Kirk's death. But it was

[04:18] actually him, Andrew Kovit, that

[04:20] actually observed him calling Erica Kirk

[04:23] and then calling Rob McCoy. But again,

[04:26] we don't really have Mikey's explanation

[04:28] for it. He doesn't owe that to us. He's

[04:30] not guilty of a crime. He's not alleged

[04:32] to have committed a crime. Doesn't seem

[04:34] like the FBI cared to talk to him

[04:36] despite Cash Patel's, you know,

[04:38] insistence that they were going to

[04:40] explore every angle of this. But he

[04:42] could allay, you know, these kind of

[04:43] criticisms by showing the timestamps

[04:46] within his phone if he wanted to. Again,

[04:48] he's not under that obligation, but he

[04:50] could do that lest, you know, these, if

[04:53] they're going to call it conspiracy

[04:54] theories get, you know, out of control.

[04:57] And that is the risk you run by this guy

[04:59] not responding personally.

[05:01] >> So this this part is not tracking. Okay.

[05:03] Mikey is not standing to the side of

[05:06] Charlie. He is behind. And so if you're

[05:08] saying what earlier we're supposed to

[05:10] see him the best place to stand if

[05:13] you're going to get a video of Charlie

[05:14] asking a question is going to be in a

[05:16] place where you can see both Charlie and

[05:17] the person asking the question. And

[05:20] >> also I'll note that there are other

[05:21] people running behind that tent running

[05:24] quicker than Mike McCoy walks away. Now,

[05:26] I'm not saying that's indicative of

[05:28] necessarily suspicion, but it also

[05:31] throws a wrench into what this guy on

[05:33] Turning Point USA was saying where, you

[05:35] know, you had to slow down to get

[05:37] through this choke point. Well, other

[05:39] people were actually running. And I'm

[05:41] again, I'm not even saying that multiple

[05:43] people wouldn't behave differently in

[05:45] this sort of situation, but that is the

[05:47] case. It seems like other people were

[05:49] able to run through that corridor at

[05:52] this time. You do see right after the

[05:54] gunshot, he does put both of his fingers

[05:57] up by his ears. You can see that it's

[05:59] not just one, which you would need to

[06:01] place a call if you're going to do it

[06:03] manually. Like I talked about in the

[06:05] video yesterday, he could have done that

[06:06] verbally through Siri or Google

[06:08] Assistant. A lot of people criticize

[06:10] that, saying there's no way with that

[06:12] level of noise that that could happen,

[06:14] but that's not true. You can test this

[06:15] with your own phone in a loud car or at

[06:18] a rock concert. Seir uses machine

[06:20] learning and audio processing actually

[06:22] to filter out background noise and you

[06:24] can place calls verbally. That's not

[06:28] necessarily saying that's what he did.

[06:29] If you're following the co uh coalit

[06:32] line of reasoning here, he just did that

[06:34] temporarily and then later placed those

[06:36] calls.

[06:36] >> That's just not where he's standing. So

[06:39] that excuse doesn't make sense to me.

[06:42] Now, maybe he's saying he was and Mikey

[06:44] was there when he was throwing hats out

[06:45] and he was there trying to send videos

[06:48] thereafter once things got started.

[06:50] That's all possible. I don't know.

[06:52] Regarding him putting his hands up to

[06:54] his ear, it does sound completely

[06:57] plausible to me that if you first hear a

[06:59] gunshot, you're going to naturally do

[07:00] this, right? That kind of makes sense.

[07:03] You're going to go, "What? You know,

[07:04] what was that?" Maybe. And then I think

[07:06] typically you get down. And the issue

[07:10] that I have is he just I never see him

[07:13] take that phone down. Maybe he does,

[07:16] right? Maybe he does. We don't know for

[07:19] a fact. And so we should be clear that

[07:22] it doesn't look to me like he's just

[07:24] covering his ears there, but maybe he

[07:27] is.

[07:28] >> Yeah. Credit to Candace for saying maybe

[07:30] he is. I don't know what would look

[07:33] different if you're not, you know,

[07:35] holding your ears there or if you're you

[07:38] are. You only see one of his hands when

[07:40] he's behind the tent there. It's hard to

[07:42] completely see, but I don't know what

[07:44] the difference would be is if he's doing

[07:46] that or not. You can't see what that

[07:48] right arm is doing as he walks away. You

[07:50] can see what that right arm is doing

[07:52] when he's, you know, just to the side of

[07:53] the tent. That initial reaction is to

[07:56] put both of them up there. But hey,

[07:58] credit to Candace for at least

[07:59] acknowledging, hey, there might be a

[08:01] plausible explanation here. But again,

[08:03] we're not we're we're not given the call

[08:05] logs or anything like that. And we're

[08:07] not privy to them. We're not obligated

[08:09] to have them, but you can see why people

[08:12] are focusing on this because it does

[08:14] seem like, you know, if you put your

[08:16] phone up right away, a lot of people

[08:18] might suspect, hey, you're on a call or

[08:20] something like that. And you know, this

[08:23] is a plausible explanation, but it

[08:26] certainly doesn't answer the words of

[08:27] his father, Rob McCoy, who said that his

[08:30] son, Mike McCoy, was drenched in blood.

[08:32] Also, that's very odd, too. We talked

[08:34] about it yesterday.

[08:35] >> What I will say is that it would be

[08:39] unlikely that you would keep holding

[08:41] your ears until you get all the way out

[08:44] and that you wouldn't duck down. And

[08:47] regarding Charlie always told us to call

[08:49] Erica if anything happens. Yeah, that's

[08:51] kind of common sense. That's not exactly

[08:52] like, hey, if I get shot in the throat,

[08:54] don't help me and call Erica. I think

[08:57] obviously if I

[09:00] that's called like first of kin, right?

[09:02] First of kin. If something happens to

[09:04] me, call George. Something happens to

[09:06] George, call Candace. That is almost in

[09:09] the sphere of common sense.

[09:11] >> Yeah, totally agree with her on that.

[09:13] It's in the sphere of common sense, and

[09:15] you would default to maybe that attitude

[09:17] probably. But that doesn't mean that

[09:19] Charlie didn't say to do that to Andrew

[09:22] or Mike in the event that something

[09:23] happened to him. I can see someone

[09:25] saying, "Hey, make sure my wife knows if

[09:27] I'm in a, you know, a tragic situation,

[09:29] a serious situation, a violent

[09:31] situation." You can understand how that

[09:34] might be said and also be common sense.

[09:36] I don't think that, you know, takes away

[09:38] or detracts from that sentiment or that

[09:41] viewpoint. And also, she says, "I think

[09:44] you would duck." I think I mean I think

[09:45] that's just projection of what she might

[09:48] do. And some people that you see running

[09:50] behind the tent do kind of duck down a

[09:52] little bit as they're quickly running.

[09:54] Some people don't though. So are the

[09:56] people that didn't duck all now suspect

[09:59] of being implicated in this crime or

[10:01] some connection to it or behaving

[10:03] suspiciously because there were more

[10:05] people that didn't duck even in that

[10:07] footage that they showed us than Mikey

[10:09] McCoy. So, I'm just saying that some of

[10:11] this stuff we're projecting what we

[10:13] think we would do and being suspicious

[10:16] if people don't behave in that way, but

[10:17] it seems like it's focused on Mike

[10:19] McCoy. When many other people didn't,

[10:21] Doug,

[10:21] >> so I believe that. I don't believe that

[10:24] Charlie said, "If I get shot, don't help

[10:26] me calmly walk away and call Erica

[10:30] first." Like, I think Yeah. I don't

[10:31] know. I don't know. Like I said, we have

[10:33] nothing to go off of. I think it's

[10:34] curious that we're hearing this from

[10:35] Andrew and we're not hearing it from

[10:37] Mikey McCoy. It's very easy to dispel

[10:39] any in internet innuendo. You don't

[10:41] actually have to jump into ad hominant

[10:43] attacks. The first thing I would have

[10:45] done, just like I did when I was being

[10:47] accused of colluding on the Blake Lively

[10:50] story when I got drafted into that

[10:51] lawsuit and they thought that I was

[10:53] working with Blake Lively's um sorry,

[10:56] working with Justin Baldon's team is I

[10:58] quite literally live subpoenaed myself.

[11:01] Held up my phone. I typed in Blake

[11:03] Lively and I showed you the only two

[11:06] times that I had ever texted about her

[11:08] in my phone at all to demonstrate that

[11:12] there was no collusion happening and no

[11:13] one compelled me to speak. It's just

[11:15] it's it was a ridiculous thing for her

[11:16] to say. I laughed at it. I wasn't upset

[11:19] about it, right? And I said, "This is

[11:21] crazy. Here is my phone. I'm live

[11:23] opening it for you." Why why not do

[11:25] that? Doesn't that seem easier to like

[11:26] the easier thing if you feel that

[11:29] pressure is to just say, "I'm going to

[11:30] dispel this." is kind of like the

[11:32] Breijit Mcronone thing. Hey, here's a

[11:34] couple of pictures of me raising my

[11:35] kids. 30 years was missing because I I

[11:38] really was just camera shy. I'm just

[11:40] going to show you the pictures. It's so

[11:41] much easier rather than fighting a tip

[11:43] fortat war to just share the truth.

[11:46] People are uncomfortable.

[11:48] >> Yeah, I generally agree with this. That

[11:50] would be generally my mindset. However,

[11:53] again, other people don't necessarily

[11:54] have this mindset. A lot of other people

[11:57] cling to their privacy in ways that I

[11:59] don't even fully understand. You know,

[12:01] I'm a public figure, so to speak. Now, I

[12:03] have so many videos and there's so much

[12:05] information on my thoughts. It would be

[12:07] hard for me to conceal this. Candace is

[12:10] the same way. Her life is on full

[12:11] display on her show, other content

[12:14] creators as well. But some people don't

[12:16] necessarily want that kind of spotlight,

[12:18] even if you're a chief of staff of

[12:20] sorts. So, at least there's a plausible

[12:22] explanation as to why you wouldn't want

[12:24] to divulge this. You could also think

[12:26] that, hey, if I divulge this, no matter

[12:29] what I do, they're going to say my

[12:30] response to this is suspect, and it's

[12:32] going to be even deeper in the

[12:34] conspiracies looking my way, even though

[12:36] I'm innocent. Again, just another

[12:38] plausible reading of what could be the

[12:40] case or could be the mind frame of

[12:42] someone that doesn't share this. Now,

[12:44] I'm not saying he shouldn't share this.

[12:45] I think that it might behoove him and,

[12:48] you know, anyone else in involved in

[12:50] this in particular to share this

[12:52] information. I would tend to be more

[12:54] forthcoming about that information. But

[12:56] at the same time, I can see some

[12:57] plausible reasonings why people might

[13:00] not want to.

[13:01] >> It's going to get even more interesting

[13:02] though because Alex Marlo, who runs

[13:03] Breitbart News, was their guest for the

[13:06] day on the show, and he then kind of

[13:09] shifts gears and pretends like we're all

[13:11] drug addicts, right? We're just high on

[13:14] conspiracy theory. Take a listen.

[13:16] >> There's a suggestion online that Mikey

[13:18] Charlie's chief of staff, one of the

[13:20] most sincere people you'd ever meet,

[13:22] brilliant, Christian, kind, everyone

[13:24] who's he ever met in his entire life,

[13:26] couldn't hurt a fly, was part of a

[13:28] conspiracy to murder Charlie. That's

[13:29] what's going on.

[13:30] >> It's it's vile. It's it's utterly vile.

[13:32] >> Who would do this? What type of

[13:33] individual just to create content, do we

[13:35] think, or is there some What's the

[13:37] >> I don't know. I think a lot of this

[13:39] mindset just sort of fuels itself. Uh

[13:42] it's it's sort of addictive in the same

[13:44] way a lot of social media stuff is

[13:46] addictive or in the way like uh honestly

[13:49] something like pornography is addictive

[13:51] or something like they get really they

[13:54] they almost get they get a high off of

[13:58] like the idea of like that they're doing

[13:59] something that's daring or out there.

[14:04] >> So that right there is a psychological

[14:05] operation. And because we're reading

[14:08] about Sigman Freud, they diagnose you.

[14:10] When they don't want you to look into

[14:12] something, they diagnose you. So right

[14:13] there, he's going, "Oh my, are they just

[14:15] doing this to create content? Are these

[14:17] people akin to drug addicts are just

[14:19] high on the conspiracy theory? They're

[14:21] gaslighting you and then they're

[14:23] diagnosing you." So totally agree with

[14:25] her on this. It's the same line of

[14:27] reasoning that the regime establishment

[14:30] government does when they just call you

[14:32] an extremist. that nothing you say is

[14:34] worthy of consideration or argument

[14:37] because I just called you extremist in

[14:39] this case diagnosing you of being some

[14:42] kooky conspiracy theorist that it's

[14:44] addicted to you know the spotlight that

[14:46] comes from this like it's a porn

[14:48] addiction or something to explore every

[14:50] avenue of this because people are

[14:52] untrustworthy for good reason of the FBI

[14:55] narrative on this stuff of you know

[14:57] their story of events the timeline the

[15:00] George Zinn connection things that just

[15:03] don't add up. It's only the FBI's fault.

[15:05] And I noticed that this line of

[15:07] reasoning, it's rarely from any kind of

[15:09] establishment operation or institution

[15:12] ever levied toward the FBI that the FBI,

[15:16] you know, gets off on, you know,

[15:18] completely gaslighting the public, not

[15:20] being forthcoming about information that

[15:22] they have, even though we know that they

[15:24] have it, you know, not clarifying where

[15:28] there are abnormalities and

[15:30] contradictions in their narrative. It's

[15:32] never hoisted at those people. It's

[15:34] always hoisted at people like Candace

[15:36] who is actually conducting an

[15:37] investigation and trying to search into

[15:40] every crevice here because the feds

[15:42] clearly aren't doing that. They already

[15:44] have their narrative, it seems. So yeah,

[15:46] I'm with Candace on this completely. And

[15:48] again, I don't always agree with Candace

[15:50] on every avenue of this case, but she's

[15:52] to so totally right. They're trying to

[15:54] gaslight and diagnose you such that you

[15:56] just look like a kook and they just look

[15:59] like, you know, people that, you know,

[16:01] are above all the argumentation and

[16:03] above having to deal with these types of

[16:05] arguments.

[16:06] >> We all just watched Charlie die. We are

[16:08] having a perfectly rational response to

[16:11] watching that and then watching the

[16:13] strange reaction of his peers or the

[16:15] non-reaction of his peers who just want

[16:16] our money, right? And are are are asking

[16:19] for Susie Wilds. side. This is the

[16:21] craziest part of this whole thing for

[16:22] me. It was like why is Susie Wild? I

[16:23] don't know. It just feels really weird

[16:24] like a weird pick for her to eulogize

[16:26] him. Uh but yeah, and and not maybe his

[16:29] parents. Maybe they didn't want to.

[16:30] Actually, they were quite private

[16:31] people. But all this happens and we're

[16:34] having a natural reaction which is we

[16:36] feel alarmed. We feel suspicious. And

[16:39] they're going, "Oh,

[16:41] you're a drug addict. You're You know

[16:44] what? I get it. You kind of like porn.

[16:46] You're into that. You're into the porn

[16:48] thing. It's I get it. No, I I get it. If

[16:50] if you want to watch porn all day, you

[16:52] want to watch porn all day. That, my

[16:54] friends, is a psychological operation.

[16:56] Steal yourselves against this. Yes, we

[16:59] are asking questions. No, we are not

[17:02] akin to people that watch pornography

[17:04] all day. And no, we're not getting high

[17:06] on it. We're going to get high when we

[17:08] find out what actually happened. That's

[17:09] going to feel like a high to us, right?

[17:11] That's going to be that natural rush

[17:12] that we feel when we've actually solved

[17:15] what happened to Charlie Kirk.

[17:18] >> Right on. Perfect answer, man. I just

[17:20] love how unapologetic Hannah Sons is. If

[17:23] you have anything negative to say about

[17:25] her, you can never say that she isn't

[17:28] fearless. She is fearless. You can never

[17:30] say she's a coward. She isn't a coward.

[17:33] You know, she is willing to go through

[17:35] slings and arrows to try to get to the

[17:37] bottom of this thing. Even if she

[17:39] doesn't get led to the same necessary

[17:41] conclusions I do, I find that admirable.

[17:44] I really do find that admirable,

[17:46] especially because of how close she was

[17:48] to Charlie and how, you know, she wants

[17:51] to vindicate, you know, this operation

[17:54] and this investigation by searching for

[17:56] the truth when we know that we won't get

[17:58] it from the feds. We know that we won't

[18:00] get it from the FBI, the same

[18:02] institution that is covering up actively

[18:05] a child sex trafficking operation that

[18:07] likely took place as a foreign blackmail

[18:10] operation by Jeffrey Epste and Gain

[18:12] Maxwell. you know that same entity that

[18:15] you know entrapp people and to trying to

[18:18] you know nail them for a Whitmer

[18:20] kidnapping plot for January 6th trying

[18:23] to undermine a sitting president in

[18:25] Russia gate even while he was funding

[18:27] Ukraine and withdrawing for the in from

[18:29] the INF and denouncing Russia for two to

[18:31] three years. We were captivated by that

[18:33] by the same institution that wiretapped

[18:36] dissident like Stokeley Carmichael and

[18:38] Malcolm X and Martin Luther King and

[18:40] murdered Fred Hampton and tried to you

[18:43] know convince Martin Luther King to

[18:44] commit suicide engage in warrantless

[18:47] wiretapping shredding the fourth

[18:48] amendment has this FBI time and time

[18:51] again and you have Cash Patel there who

[18:53] kind of in campaigning for the position

[18:55] in 2024 said hey if I run the FBI what I

[18:59] do is shut down the Hoover building and

[19:01] set up a museum to the deep state in its

[19:04] place. Well, we're still waiting for

[19:05] that museum. We'd love to see the Hoover

[19:08] building come down, Cash. But, you know,

[19:10] I got off on a tangent, but I really

[19:12] admire Candace Owens for her

[19:14] unapologetic attitude here when she's

[19:16] being attacked by all circles. She

[19:19] deserves to be able to conduct whatever

[19:21] investigation she wants. People have the

[19:23] opportunity to rip her for that. But you

[19:25] can't blame her. If you want to blame

[19:28] someone for this investigation and

[19:30] things you might not necessarily agree

[19:32] with that come up in the process of this

[19:34] in investigation, look no further than

[19:37] the feds because no one trusts the FBI

[19:40] after everything that's happened in its

[19:42] weaponization of the state against

[19:44] dissident, which will continue. By the

[19:46] way, under Trump, it's continuing. Under

[19:48] Biden, it continued Obama, Bush, all the

[19:51] way to its advent. It has continued ever

[19:55] since J. Edgar Hoover spearheaded that

[19:57] operation. We're left with the same

[19:59] criminal organization that we can't

[20:01] trust. So, you can't trust the FBI. You

[20:03] can't trust police in many states, and

[20:05] that's the case, too. You know, law

[20:07] enforcement is not usually your friend.

[20:09] They're going to pervert your liberty

[20:11] any way they can in many opportunities.

[20:13] This is what the natural conclusion is.

[20:16] And this is a product of the new

[20:18] independent media that will rise to

[20:20] displace the legacy media, which no one

[20:22] trusts either. So, when you don't trust

[20:24] state institutions, especially federal

[20:26] institutions and the legacy media,

[20:28] that's when you're going to get this

[20:30] kind of uh investigation. And I Hey, I'm

[20:33] with Candace on that, even though I

[20:35] don't always agree with her. I don't

[20:36] even know I don't even agree with the

[20:38] fact that Tyler Robinson is a psy. I

[20:41] just don't I think he was involved in

[20:43] some way. I don't think you can get

[20:45] around that unless you can prove that

[20:47] the text messages were false and the

[20:49] defense is going to have subpoena power.

[20:50] they're going to have every opportunity

[20:52] to prove they're false. And I've had no

[20:54] indication that they're going to do

[20:56] that. The moment they do that, my

[20:57] eyebrow raises because even if you took

[20:59] away all the other evidence in the case

[21:01] that the state has, they've talked about

[21:03] included in the indictment documents,

[21:05] etc. away, those text messages are

[21:07] damning. And if the defense can't deal

[21:09] with it, this guy's going to walk. Maybe

[21:11] that'll happen. But almost every piece

[21:14] of this crime is inherent in those text

[21:16] messages. And that's what led some

[21:17] people to say, "Hey, they can't be right

[21:20] then." Well, let's see what the defense

[21:22] does because if his defense council

[21:24] doesn't deal with this either, it can be

[21:26] dismissed. And that's an easy way to

[21:28] walk to because of ineffective counsel.

[21:30] I just don't think it's going to happen

[21:32] in this case. I'd be surprised if it

[21:34] goes to trial. But just an example where

[21:36] I don't agree with Candace, but at the

[21:37] same time, I can see why her

[21:39] investigation's valuable. And, you know,

[21:42] screw the haters of it. I'm I'm team

[21:44] Candace as far as trying to explore

[21:47] every avenue of this. And what do you

[21:49] think, though? Let me know in the

[21:50] comments down below. Do you agree with

[21:51] me on this? Do you disagree? What do you

[21:53] think is interesting about this? Do you

[21:55] think their explanation at turning point

[21:57] is plausible about this? Let me know in

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[22:38] guiding our policy from a deep state

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