Charlie Kirk and Barry Meguiar on Finding Joy in Faith, Tucker Carlson's Spiritual Battle, and Igniting Your Life for Christ

thank you everybody please take a seat thank you we have a great guest tonight so I'm not going to take much time but I do have to address something that I've received a lot of questions about that is an ongoing issue um you know we've been doing this now for two years uh so praise God has anyone attended every single one wow I have um so there you go and very few of us so it's been a pretty amazing thing if you ever want to go back and re-watch all of these I encourage you to do so there's been some amazing guests over the last couple of years and just awesome knowledge and wisdom shared and thanks to Dream City for allowing this platform to happen so for years it's important we recognize something has changed in the last couple weeks not just the last couple weeks so in January James O'Keefe was still at project Veritas Donald Trump was not yet indicted and Tucker Carlson still had a television program and those three things have changed and I'm going to talk about the Tucker one in particular because I'm receiving a lot of questions about that and if you saw my show today I was pretty fired up about it and so if you look at America as something that is worthy of protection let's use something we're all very familiar with over the last couple years let's just say it's an immune system what are the what are the elements that prevent in bacterial infection or viral infection truth and Justice and you need truth and you need Justice that is what creates society's antibodies if you will truth tellers are necessary to be able to check the massive lies in your society and it's been remarkable in the last week and a half how many messages I've received but also just seeing more broadly how important one man's cable television program was to so many of you and I have not seen that sort of let's just say response to any sort of medium since the great Rush Limbaugh passed away and in some ways Tucker Carlson was almost The Unofficial handing of the Baton from rush to Tucker and so Tucker Carlson was fired he told us why he was fired if you speak Tucker's language which I'm going to show you the video and I'll tell you how to interpret it because you put out this uh this video on Twitter that to the outsider or to the untrained eye you're like okay this is just the generic video I happen to know Tucker rather well and he was communicating exactly what happened to you see Tucker was on air for seven years and it was a remarkable thing right Tucker was able to challenge some of the biggest lies in our society they came after him they intimidated him in fact Tucker was willing to say that we were in a spiritual war on cable television that is very very hard to hear to find a cable television host say you know this is just diabolical but Tucker was not just effective and persuasive let's be honest Tucker was willing to use his Prime Time television program to talk about topics that you cared about but the regime did not want you to talk about the open border Adverse Events to a vaccine why are we involved in this proxy war in eastern Ukraine asking the questions about that January six tapes you might agree or disagree on these topics but he certainly made it interesting and he was darn effective at it and one of the things we're trying to do by having this Gathering is trying to tell you that you need to speak the truth in your life in every circumstance especially in our community and I think we could all take really a lesson from Tucker is he did this night after night in an incredibly effective way and he's not done you've not heard the laughs to Tucker Carlson let me tell you you've not heard the last of Tucker Carlson let me just tell you it's a total mess right now they're trying to take them out and there's so many leaks and awful things let me just ask I'm just very curious how many of you have stopped watching Fox News raise your hands after this wow that's uh that's pretty decisive right wow um I wonder why all of a sudden they went from 3.5 million viewers and now 1.3 million people and I just think people have I don't know it's pretty amazing and the reason they the reasons they give gave us terrible so I want to play this piece of tape you've probably seen it has 80 million views of Tucker putting it on Twitter but the reason I think it's very fitting tonight not just because all of you are immensely curious in it is that Tucker actually makes one of the most um let's just say articulate spiritual arguments that you'll hear if you listen to it carefully enough he walks through the beginning this first 17 seconds is just kind of that he's he's basically telling you he's having fun despite all the nonsense because Tucker is a lighthearted guy then he goes into telling you in code this is why I got fired because the people in charge of my network were angry I challenge neoliberalism and then he calls them all a bunch of liars without saying it because he's still technically an employee of fox he was not fired by the way his show was canceled it's very important but then at the end he makes this unbelievably triumphant beautiful and Only Way Tucker can he basically says that true things ultimately prevail that is Christianity everybody that that is the promise of Christ and if you know Tucker well you could see because some people were accusing him oh he's reading oh if Tucker's reading it that means he wrote it and Tucker does not write anything by mistake he was a 30-year magazine writer and he's a darn talented writer let me tell you one of the most gifted writers of a generation so he you have to he prayed over in poured over every single word of this so I want you to listen carefully and at the end he makes an argument the iron law of the universe this could be best summarized as John 1. in the beginning was the logos was the word that there's a natural Harmony of the cosmos what Tucker is saying without saying it is hey we're in a spiritual war and truth will always win with that kind of backdrop for some of you this will be the second or third time watching this video for somebody the first time watching this listen to Tucker Carlson speak in code of what actually happened to him in the last couple weeks enjoy good evening it's Tucker Carlson one of the first things you realize when you step outside the noise for a few days is how many genuinely nice people there are in this country kind and decent people people who really care about what's true and a bunch of hilarious people also a lot of those it's got to be the majority of the population even now so that's heartening the other thing you notice when you take a little time off is how unbelievably stupid most of the debates you see on television are they're completely irrelevant they mean nothing in five years we won't even remember that we have them trust me as someone who's participated and yet at the same time and this is the amazing thing the undeniably big topics the ones that will Define our future get virtually no discussion at all war civil liberties emerging science demographic change corporate power natural resources when was the last time you heard a legitimate debate about any of those issues it's been a long time debates like that are not permitted in American Media both political parties and their donors have reached consensus on what benefits them and they actively collude to shut down any conversation about it suddenly the United States looks very much like a one-party state that's a depressing realization but it's not permanent our current orthodoxies won't last they're brain dead nobody actually believes them hardly anyone's life is improved by them this moment is to inherently ridiculous to continue and so it won't people in charge know this that's why they're hysterical and aggressive they're afraid they've given up persuasion they're resorting to force but it won't work when honest people say what's true calmly and without embarrassment they become powerful at the same time the Liars who've been trying to silence them shrink and they become weaker that's the iron law of the universe true things prevail where can you still find Americans saying true things there aren't many places left but there are some and that's enough as long as you can hear the words there is hope see you soon isn't that beautiful especially from a spiritual perspective as long as you can hear the words that is Christianity the spoken truth in the beginning was the word and the word became flesh and I have no idea how this entire thing is going to end up except I can tell you if Tucker wrote that those last three words he put there intentionally see you soon he's not done and I hope all of us remember this and make let's just say more enlightened media choices if you want to listen to our podcast that's fine here's my one recommendation support Independent Media support people that are pushing back on the consensus that are doing reporting people like Matt Walsh people like Tim Poole people like Steve Bannon real America's Voice or whatever because he's right there are real issues in our country that have spiritual Dynamics to it that are much more important than oh this side is good and that side is bad so I'm getting asked a lot of questions about the Tucker thing but the last thing I'll say is this I had a conversation with him a couple days ago he's in great spirits what he was wrong but he's not acting like a victim in fact I think the enemy is going to regret ever doing what they did to Tucker because he's more motivated than ever to make sure that our side wins with that join me in welcoming our guest tonight an amazing American get on your feet he is someone who's going to reignite America he inspires me he's a hero of mine Barry McGuire everybody author of ignite your life Barry come on up here [Applause] I'm sorry take a seat everybody thank you well Barry welcome I want to say having Barry here is a real blessing usually buries right up front taking notes you know you don't get invited to your own church you do know that I speak all over the country but you never you're without honor it's your own country as we're breaking the rules I think that's actually in Luke that it's you can't be a prophet in your own Hometown right exactly is that Nazareth Jesus was rejected that's true is that correct yeah so uh we're now bucking the trend uh Barry is welcome in Nazareth uh at AKA Phoenix so uh so so Barry I wish we had hours to go through this I've known you for years and I just want to break you were 22 years old when I met you the first time yeah Trump Hotel in DC I was naive enough to believe I could save the whole country still working on that so uh thank you I'm not going to give up not gonna give up but but Barry from the first time I met you I saw something rare you were a joyful Christian yes there's so many angry Christians out there which I think is one of the most awful things if you're an angry Christian you're a bad Ambassador for the promise and for the hope of the Gospel right but Barry I saw you in real time so we got to know each other we saw each other at events probably a hundred events right and Ever from Bell hops to waiters to waitresses to people that were serving us to random people buried go up and say do you know the Lord and he would just love on people and it just poured out and those you that know Barry know that this is not some just sort of stick this is who he is Barry tell your story and talk about your book ignite your life and let's have some fun uh well you know the the story of joy is an interesting one because karenine Karen could be up here with me Karen I love you to death you're my my my life everywhere there she is right there you were working on 60 years of marriage in December frankly I think frankly I think the Lord's coming before that we're not going to see it but you know um but um you know I was born in a Christian home and so a Sunday morning Sunday night Wednesday night so you know all the stuff and and um the parents had mentored me well and so we got married and Karen did not have quite the same operating I did but she she was solid with me and we were we were volunteering for everything in the church and you know like during the week we'd go out and knock on doors or we just doing everything we possibly could and we realized we didn't have joy and we said how's that possible God we're doing obviously we're trying to earn our our way into heaven like earn God's favor which you can't do that by the way he already loves you completely you can't get any more than completely so but we were just trying to figure that out and we actually we're we're having some times when we were we're kind of nipping at each other right I was like this should not be right we should not be having uh these kind of situations having Joy where's all this Joy going to come from and so we started praying for joy we literally started praying every day God we want joy and uh we end up um about um maybe a month later or so and we went to a to a um a lunch at our church 50th Anniversary luncheon they had herb Ellingwood herb was the legal Affairs secretary for Ronald Reagan and then President Reagan after that and he was a speaker and I was assigned the seat next to him next to at the podium and and for an hour I was wanting to hear about Reagan do they do you really pray in his office all he said well he never mentioned Reagan I never thought of Reagan for an hour he's told me story after story after story he was laughing he was crying about how he's sharing his faith all these crazy places and in last night if you don't believe what happened last night I walked away from that in tears and I said I want what he has I want what he has I want that Joy so Karen I talked about we said well um we had no idea that Joy came from sharing Faith sharing faith is something we'd been doing a good bit we'd gone to evangelism explosion class but it was hard it was you know all the scripting and getting the points right and it was it was it was a difficult type of thing and here he's having fun and he's not doing anything he's just loving on people so we talked oh he said okay we're gonna start doing that so we start we started just loving on people and having the time of our lives doing it immediately within oh I know maybe three or four weeks we were laughing one day and I said to Karen we have joy never guessed it had anything to do with sharing the faith that we don't want to do right nobody wants to share their faith so it was just amazing so that was 1973. the next three years we were sharing our faith to the point where uh just amazing things were happening in our lives every day it has it for all these years since 50 years of doing this Karen and I and um uh one day of I was uh in my office I decided God you must be leading me into full-time Ministry I can see where this is going it keeps getting stronger and stronger and stronger and I'd had a Jewish rep I was back in New Jersey and earlier that week and it was snowing outside we got back in the car I turned the engine on he says before you put in gear I wonder if we could talk and I said what about he says I I'm heading for divorce I don't know what to do would you pray for me now I had never sat a serious conversation with him about the Lord but you know what if you just love on people and let them know that you're a Christian that you trust God when they have a problem they come they do and so we had a great time together I got there okay God you're taking me in the next realm now people are actually asking for stuff without even you know being out there in front of them on it just doing it matter of factly so I prayed this most fervent prayer of my life literally I said God I want to be where you want me to be I don't care what it is my family business I love it I'm the only I'm the third generation leader in my business we're just starting into retail just baby steps are just getting going I was excited about that but more importantly I want to serve God I just want to be close to God that's why I said God if you want me to leave I'll leave but you do know that if I leave the family business will fail there's no way else to lead it and it'd be the end of McGuire's car wax and I have two little girls to feed you know that as well but I I if you want me to leave you you almost have to speak to me in an audible voice is what I said okay not 20 minutes later a guy came into my office his name was Dave McNutt from my church I didn't know him but I knew he's a missionary Kid born in Africa my same age he'd spoken from the platform a couple times we'd never exchanged a glance in areas of my office and I said hi Dave how you doing I'm fine absolutely hear I thought I'd ask you how you were doing how's life and so I started going down a path and I made a set decision he wasn't into cool cars and shiny paint finishes as a missionary kid so um I started telling people but sharing my faith with and I joined that last story and he said wow God's given you a wonderful ministry here hadn't he and I said wait a minute it's like Twilight Zone I said why would you say that he says well a pastor couldn't reach those people you're reaching but as a businessman you can and it's obvious that your business is your pulpit that was 1976. it's obvious that your business is your Pulpit folks wherever you are that's your Pulpit you know at your boyfriend take full advantage of it so I I told myself I know I just prayed this prayer and I 20 minutes early well that explains it I said explains what he's I just dropped missionaries off in the Orange County airport and I was I was driving up Red Hill the closest Main Street to my office and God spoke to me and said go see Barry McGuire and I said I don't know this guy I see his name I recognize of a church but I don't know what kind of business it is I'm going to make a fool out of myself but I I walked in with he's actually my my throat was my my heart was beating in my throat I was so nervous that I didn't know what to say but how's it going so that's um that God is in the direction of sharing our faith and I mean let me just do a little add-on 24 years later he calls me I've seen you for 24 years he went on to a different Church and he said um I have a word for you for the Lord I didn't want to hear it I mean he can't follow all the words from the Lord you get a few of those but he he sat me down he said have you heard this book The Prayer Jabez I'd not heard of it yet because it just come out well I hadn't heard of it either I think three months later everybody we knew in the Christian world of read prayer Chambers but that moment they had not he said my friend gave it to me as I as I was reading the book God spoke to me said go back and tell Barry I'm going to enlarge his territory and and and I'm going to give him Ministry separate apart from his business and I knew what that meant it was a it was a Ministry to talk to Christians about how much fun it is to share your faith and all the good things that go with it the next seven years our 100 year old family business doubled in size our TV show went Global on on uh you know all the discovery networks and uh the right I mean now we're the number one selling car wax in America and countries all over the world it's been a crazy ride but because I haven't looked at my business as as the important thing my my business is my fulfit it's secondary folks we can we can be in politics we can be teaching whatever but secondarily to to living the commission and doing what God's called us to do let's get more people in heaven that's what we got to do so so Barry you know there's there's some people right now in the audience they say but it's hard at my job it's do you mean that when I go out to a restaurant I gotta say just walk us through what what is the McGuire experience I mean I've seen it everybody it's it's unbelievable I mean it's everybody you could imagine is that an obstacle like oh that person's in the way it's an opportunity an opportunity to bring that person in heaven so walk us through the the the McGuire day from Starbucks Baristas to everybody everywhere you're going You're spring you're putting the gospel all over the valley I would correct you say Maguire Way I'm saying it's God's way um we have been taught all of us have been in church all our year all these years that it's difficult and you have to study and you have to get your points down you have to get your your your life story I got a hundred life stories which one do you want me to memorize you know you get this all down then you go out and expect to be persecuted and you go out and you and finally get somebody and you're going through the points and by the between 0.2 and 0.3 they're off somewhere and I'm trying to hit them back so I can get them to point three I gotta get him save here on the spot I did it all wrong Jesus said they'll know your way disciple by your love and that changes everything it doesn't take you out of your comfort zone if you're Christian you'd like to love on people but if you love on people intensely with the idea that you could move and move everybody every day closer to Jesus don't worry about getting them saved but just love on them when you love on people folks the holy spirit is loving them through you when he self when he loves you he's salvationing you the whole purpose of his love is to Salvation you to get you to heaven when you love on other people he is salvation them through you got it there there's no secular conversation every every conversation is sacred every single one every person you talk to I don't care if they call themselves Christians or not but God is Sovereign particularly the ones that don't look like me I love the ones that don't look like me they're the most fun and you know that God is sovereignly moving on everybody all around us at the same time and what we would we come in we enter in it's it's a sacred opportunity God is actually bringing us in being a physical manifestation of what he's already talking to them about and when you do that they sense the Holy Spirit I tell you even scandals they said something's different here you're loving on these people and I love to do it with people who don't expect me to love about them we had a waiter the other day and he could not have been more of a different persuasion you could possibly imagine but we loved on him and complimented him on his perfume and tipped him wealthy and and talking about God to him and he was all into it it had to stop being defensive we're serving the King of Kings I mean God God is using us to be able to represent him in these last days it's amazing so you're saying how do you make that work you just love my people I I can't make it into more simple than that you you love on people and when they see that they respond and it happens in the craziest ways Karen and I get on the plane we're always sit next to each other but all of a sudden we're set we're split up every time we get split up we know okay God's up to something and he sent me next to a gal who who has a girlfriend and I brought a Bible and I do something she says oh you're a pastor I said no I'm not a pastor I'm a businessman well what's that oh I love God she's Roy God doesn't love me very much I said why are you saying I'm in a relationship and she starts saying I said you've got that so wrong she's why I said God loves you why yeah he loves you he loves you as much he's ever loved anybody you know what that means to people you know most people can't comprehend that God loves them they think God's beating up on all the bad stuff God is mad at them trying to punish them he loves them and he wants to bring him to Eternity he wants him to spend eternity in heaven when you start sharing that message it just opens up the doors it's just and Barry it should be fun though it should be it should be exhilarating tell us tell us about it because some people are saying this sounds hard and it's another thing I have to do people don't get mad at you when when you um when you tell them God loves them they just don't that particular gal was praying for her was related but I can think of another I got in a taxi and I was just going a short while ways but it was seven degrees outside I'm from California Arizona I don't like cohorts a short trip I'll give you a big tip yeah I don't want to tip I said excuse me I don't want a tip well sir what did you want to do I'm a bad person I don't deserve a tip there's people that are hurting around us they're everywhere everywhere you look at people are hurting the world is hurting and we have God's love and we just walk right by him on our way to our Bible studies or what church we got to recognize that we're in a war this is spiritual warfare and we have the opportunity every moment I don't care who they are they're all needing God and when you allow God to move you by his holy spirit in things happen you know so I I said do you know that God loves you no you know scruffy guy shorted his which sorted his steering wheel I said y'all gun runs no I said sir I'm a Christian I know the Bible I can tell you he loves you it's no answer I said in fact you know he loves you but she's ever loved anybody no answer I said dude I'll give you it gets even better do you know he loves you as much as he loves his own son Jesus Christ no answer now I'm at the end of my road so I get out he puts the window down this with the salt of the glass it's snowing and everything's look at me just blank I said sir uh God put me in your taxi right now because he wants you to know he loves you and he went to spend eternity with him he just blanked he's just blank he just blank then I gave him a really big tip have a good day sir God bless you I walked away yes did I get him saved no I didn't get him saved and I'm moving closer to Jesus you better believe it and and it's imagine how many opportunities we're missing every day every day everywhere myself included I mean I get annoyed with people and I mean we all do right I especially do at times I could be better about this right which is you know it's I mean I gotta tell you somebody who's Relentless if we are all like Angel Barnett on airplanes I'll tell you this is our relation no it's a real thing she'll tell you I was I was taking a nap it was a six a.m flight on exit Road Angel kept on coming back and she was relentless if we're all like that when spreading the gospel we could double the amount of Christians in America I could tell you for all like Angel Barnett um I'm half kidding but Barry let's talk about atrophy right because so there's two types of people I think that are here tonight this is an over generalization people some people here that have given their life to the Lord and been Christians for decades and some people that have not yet given their life to the Lord and I want to talk to both of them here let's first talk about people to people here in the audience Charlie or Barry okay I'm a Christian but you're trying to get people out of that try to that atrophy right of like you just feel as if you're going through the motions how can we reignite them get them back into enjoying being a Christian I think the Telltale sign is fear uh do you know that 80 of all Christians are living in fear today fear they're living in fear uh 80 percent of you apparently are living in fear there's lots of things to be afraid of you start looking around all things I mean it's really so how do you get out of here if I asked you how many of you could live your life I trust the Lord with your whole heart lean not under your own understanding in all your ways acknowledge him he'll direct your fat you all raise your hands but 80 percent of you living in fear so you you actually believe stuff but you're not living it okay so how do you get out of that how do you actually start living your faith it's it's a whole different world it's not actually looking at what the scriptures have to say how do you have wholehearted faith how can you live every day knowing God's going to answer your prayers that he is answering your prayers how do you know every day that God's directing your sets Karen and I've been there for years I our website is it called igniteamerica.com you see all kinds of people don't look like me that are enjoying the same thing I don't have a yeah you know my Edge on this they're people of all types of Persuasions doing it they're just not enough of it eighty percent of the unchurched know the world's out of control would like to believe there's a God uh that could solve the problems and are looking for them eighty percent of the insurance that's basically everybody around us they're all looking you can you can't cop out and they'll say they're going to think you're a fanatic they're looking and guess what over 80 percent already have a Christian in their life that they Trust we're good night America with the Revival in 30 days if we wanted to and it's so easy but we got all these fears and we just don't want to do it but you just let go of your fears stay in your comfort zone just love on people and it's amazing what happens let me give you a critical voice I'll give you two critical verses tonight Romans 8 28 is one that you all know but I doubt very many of you are really living it it's that one that goes all things work together for good you know I want to talk about but they don't go too good for me and maybe they're going good for somebody else but not for me I got all you don't know the problems I have um you know the fact of the matter is he actually said that God doesn't lie God is truth and he says I'll make everything everything in your life for now until you get to heaven I think it's the second most important scripture after John 3 16 I will make everything in your life work together for good if you do two things you got to read the whole scripture if you love me with all your heart all your mind you're so God you own me I had nothing between me and you and you live for my purpose did you hear that if you love me and live for my purpose my purpose he came to seek and save the losses there's no confrontation no disagreement on that he came to seek and say the Lost would we live our lives not for our purpose or something in the Bible about your purpose it's one purpose seek and save the law so when we live for his purpose every day then his promise flips in that all things work together for good now I've lost a daughter Karen I lost that 49 year old daughter about four years ago I was in the hospital dying in the hospital they gave up on me and the only people that weren't crying were caring to me that's a great story I um I was having a Droid Venture partner uh taking my 100 year old family business away from me I was 65 years old my viewer tell it let me tell you because bad things of Heaven Was I've been on the top of the mountain all the time so I'm 65 years old half my business is owned by a joint venture partner and he's taking my business away from me tomorrow morning he said he's taken over the board uh one board member he had three of our members I had three board members it was an independent one he bought them out and we're going to have if that's going to happen tomorrow morning and they're going to vote me out of my company I've lost my company I've lost my income I've lost my reputation I've lost my testimony everything's gone at 65 years of age I can't start over again you want to know my response was now it took a while to get there because of all kinds of bad things I learned how to respond properly where there's no bad there's no bad when you live for his purpose so the night before I said to God I ask you for nothing because of two things you know I live for your purpose I do it every day and I know you're under your word I'm good and I went to sleep that night as God's hearing my voice I slept soundly I didn't wake up all night long I slept selling I woke up the next morning refreshed and I went to that meeting it was it was a conference call meeting I was with my attorney in my office that everybody else was on their phone calls and uh you have to read the book ignite your life to get the punchline but in eight minutes he destroyed my partner he destroyed him turned him upside down they were they're the the foul language that was coming out of their mouth they were so mad that this thing had been found out something happened five years earlier I could have I could have paced all night long God I need your help God I need your help you know help me you know I didn't I didn't I didn't ask you for anything and again stopped asking for solutions to problems anymore we say God we live for you you know it and you're going to make it all good and it changes your life changes your life it ignites hey it ignites your life so so Barry for the people in the audience that don't yet know the Lord speak to them you've been doing this for 50 years speak to them and what respect they they there might be their first time in church in a long time or they're watching online and they don't like they don't know Jesus yet and because Barry this gets re-aired on our podcast listen to my millions of people not everyone who listens is a Believer we want to try to bring them to the Lord no one's better than you Barry well you're if it's unbelievable that you don't understand who God is he created you he's you know this new telescope 13.7 billion light years out God's beyond that what's the size of us to God and yet he endowed us you know he made us his own image he loves us he wants to spend eternity together in heaven rain over the angels I mean golly it says wild could stop you for making that stuff are just receiving the gift of eternal life that he's given us and we'll get some of you once you have a seat I think I see it's a two-step thing we're on Earth long enough to figure out who he is and accept him and then for the rest of our lives to get as many people in heaven as we possibly can in our chosen vocations you have life I have a life I love shiny cars you know I love shiny cars I'm a car guy I love my business I'm patient I've worked so hard in my business all my years when I recognize that when I get to heaven it's not going to matter how many balls of car wax I sold it's just not that's that's absurd it's not even going to matter if I'm an American or a Russian or Chinese the way that's going to matter did you accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior and secondarily and listen to this folks secondarily if you're a Christian how many people are going to be in heaven because of your influence that's the currency of Heaven how many people are going to be happy because of your influence and when you cross that line and just receive his gift and then serve him and keep that passion you have from that first moment I mean your life changes I mean we never have a bad day we'd never every day is an adventure and the things that happen to us and the experiences we have are just amazing as he brings people in our lives from all over and and you can't get it done at one time it could be take years you love on people and sometimes it takes you I get a call from from villain Detroit he says hey our friend Jack in Oregon is in the hospice bed he told his wife he's got to talk to you so I called him I said what's going on Jack he's I'm in a hospital bed I'm dying I said oh my goodness what can I do for you he says well I need God in about 12 minutes I led him to the Lord you know and I I had your second time so he said it's like guess what Jack we're going to spend eternity together what it never occurred to him we're gonna spend his journey together oh my goodness that took about 12 minutes but it took about 50 years it took 50 years folks who are really good as Christians of doing good things if everybody saw our goodness as being from God we need to be a different country but we're really good at doing good things tipping extra being kind to people walking away without ever mentioning God it just happens all the time recognize that you're being listened do you realize that everything you say and do every day all day long is moving everybody will watch you closer or further away from God everything so that I mean that changes what he says love God and love your neighbors yourself it fulfills the rest of the law you want to know why because if you love your neighbors the people around you is what you love yourself you're as concerned for their salvation as you are your own and then you're going to start doing everything you can to encourage them to come closer to Jesus Christ that change the way you dress what you indulge in you are you telling me if I indulge in that I can I won't go to heaven of course not I'm not talking about that will that help you move people closer to Jesus what jokes do you laugh at what every Everything About You changes okay you're fulfilled hold on when you when you love that say see first love Jesus in in Revelation Chapter 2 the love of the church absence he says I know you go to church you go to church and you go sacrificially no good teaching for bad but I have this against you you've left your first love you've left your first love let me tell you whatever you're excited about you talk about if you're not talking about Jesus you've lost your excitement for Jesus yeah and we start talking about it all said everything starts happening and guess what when you start having these experiences no one has to tell you to be in the word because you're being asked questions you don't know how to answer yeah I'll get back to that now you're digging in the word and you're praying and and God's speaking to you everything's happening and now you know God's Direction your steps he's answering your prayers and and he's giving you Joy every John 15 11 says when you bear fruit I will give you Joy your joy be full I mean there's no downside to this but we've been Simon Simon because we thought we had to do something first and we had to be trained and we had to be ready to get personal I've never been persecuted I'm sorry he gets persecuted I don't I'm an expert in that area but I got to tell you the same people that will be persecuting him I get him alone I got another different conversation yeah I I you could win him over yeah I haven't been I mean he just love on them the power of the Holy Spirit flowing through you somebody else is so much fun folks you got to get off the bench at the end of the game we need to do that only there's only about about 30 million of us we still got game we got about 10 on the U.S population it really knows God but only one percent of us are sharing our faith see they're lost okay we can get mad at them but they're lost they're passing all these crazy laws they're lost they see evil as good and good as evil they're lost they have an excuse what's our excuse you know we're in a church here we're sending people down all the time but most most people aren't you need to realize that only ten percent of our church even preaching salvation anymore I mean it's it's we have to take personal responsibility we forget all that it's what God is going to do with you every single one of you we decided to get off the bench and make a commitment make a commitment to Nitro now on I'm going to start moving everybody every day closer to Jesus and when you do that I gotta tell you light your fire and you'll have a lot of Joy when I uh when I met Barry I said I want to be like that and uh still working on that by the way but it's just amazing Joy let's start lining up for some questions Barry tell us more about your book as we start to line up for some questions and we do right quickly Karen I've been sharing our faith every day for 50 years a lot of stories there more importantly when you when you focus on start realizing all the scriptures the powerful scriptures that come down to telling us and supporting the fact that is the Great Commission there's there there's there's no alternative to that to get away from it and in fact I'll give you a powerful scripture have in you which is even more important do you know why he's told us to share our faith do you know it's secondary to win the Lost yeah there's all these scriptures in Genesis and Revelations telling us we should share our faith there's only one I can find that says why and it's in Isaiah Isaiah 43 10. here's what he says thus saith the Lord now remember Jeremiah he says before I place you in your mother's womb I set you apart to be my spokesman so it goes way back to that for every one of us but then across the board he says uh in in Isaiah 43 10 I appoint you as my witness so that you will believe so you've really so you believe you so you understand and believe that I am God don't say it didn't say that you'll believe more he said so she'll believe this is why he did it so it's hugely because I got to tell you when when you're speaking and God speaking through you and you feel him speaking through you and giving you words to say and you see the life changing in front of you there's nothing like that folks and most you've never experienced that's intimacy with God and it changes your life and you walk away from that moment and you just you just built when you're not jumping for joy of God I just pedal car wax and you just use me and I've done that we've done that for 50 years there's nothing like it so if you want if you want to have some great sound scripture every every chapter there's 26 chapters in there I think it is every every chapter is a lot of us with scriptures that will tell you exactly what I'm telling you but ten thousand times better that we have life traffic to show you how that works so until she gets a perspective and how it works on a natural basis but this book is powerful and they'll tell you get to the end and then the last chapter that you have three choices you can ignore God altogether and I give the scriptures to that and that's not really a good option and we've kind of forgotten about hell have we second door you go through is you're a Christian you're on your way to heaven but you're not having any fun and that's where most of you are right now I got to tell you is statistics tell us you're you're going through it and you're happy but you don't have joy there's a difference between happiness and joy we can be happy about all kinds of things but joy is eternal has nothing to do with circumstance in the worst of circumstances you have joy and the third door is when you decide I'm going to do what God's actually asked me to do and when you do that you're Uncorked and you're going to have the you're going to have the time of your life for the rest of your life let's get to the question here [Applause] hello my name is Melissa and my question is I have been a dental hygienist for 23 years and I got fired in 2000 right after the pandemic at age 40 and that was very hard to swallow but the reason why I was let go was because I was too firm in my faith and the doctor said I was too strongly opinionated so I cried a lot of tears and I poured out to the Lord and I just said you know you gave me this platform for 23 years to be a witness and to share the gospel for an hour they can't talk back to me they can only hear me so what am I supposed to learn from this and it was a hard burn and it's taken some time but how do I as a Christian move positively through that well the answer if so far I don't concerns love you know I I love apologetics a lot of great programs I don't argue with anybody not anybody don't cast your Pearls Before Swine you just don't do that don't argue with the fool uh you could tell if it were really open or not so my it's not a technique it's what the bible really tells them I call it chunning when you go deep sea fishing you throw on Chum to get the bigger fish and so I don't make it a mission that I'm going to get this person saved I never even think that of what my mission is and I move them even to skosh a little closer to God it takes the average person maybe 20 times talking to a Christian before they'll actually get saved I don't know where they are in that on that on that path but I do know this if I love them and just love them without confronting them on their sin or anything else and just love them and they say here's a wholesome Godly person who just pouring out love on them it almost doesn't even matter what you say I mean it goes closer to Jesus and so it's a matter of technique I think I think they wouldn't get in people's faces or we get strong with the best of intentions where we can turn people off and quite frankly people don't like Christians today if you Google why are Christians so if you Google that why are Christians so why are they so overbearing and angry and mean and pointing fingers and all this stuff and they don't want what we have but when you're loving them it changes everything so I would suggest that you play a play to that side of it yeah thank you and God bless you for your courage in your workplace I wish more people had that hey Charlie I'm a big fan of yours um and other conservative uh figures like uh for instance Stephen Crowder um who recently uh had a very private um divorce that had been private since 2021 exposed what are the chances that something like this coincides with some of the other cancellations that you mentioned yeah I'm praying for Stephen he's going through a tough time and I I that's a that's a tough video to watch I don't think that's him in his best light and I I don't like when private anything private text messages or private videos get me it just we we all have moments when we're um not exactly proud of so I'm praying for Steven I I don't like it I'm not going to defend it because it's it's a pretty bad video right but at the same time I think we should all have mercy and Grace and he's a here's the thing Stephen Crowder is a special talent my goodness he's an unbelievable talent to reach young people and the content he's creating so I'm praying for Stephen I don't know how coordinated this is uh there's a ton of just like conservative and conservative anger and animosity if you guys follow it at all on conservative internet culture I'm staying out of all of it I want to defeat the left more than ever before um and I'm not here to kind of get now if you're a fake conservative that's a separate issue but I'm praying for Stephen it's so sad to see him have to go through a divorce he's got he's got twins it's a tragedy and the enemy has been targeting Stephen for a cup many years because he is effective and he reaches tens of millions of people and he has six million YouTube subscribers and all that so we should all keep Steven and his family in his prayers and his wife right because they both need prayers and not defensible what I saw in that video we all have moments that we're less than proud of at the same time I think we should all be given you know second and third chances if he does repent for that but uh I'm rooting for a comeback for Steven at some point um because Boyd is the country needs Stephen Crowder thank you hi Charlie why do you think that like the Mormon Church in the Catholic church have so much influence but us as a church we don't have that kind of influence yeah so um you know it's interesting I'll answer the Catholic one you know um my grandma was like EWTN 24 7 Catholic right she had EWTN as much as you guys have Fox News used to have Fox News on right it was just like white noise in the background if you don't know what EWTN is it's the Catholic Channel and and I'm very I'm very fond of Catholics I have some beautiful Catholics in my life including those that work for us and work with us I don't like the anti-catholic stuff that happens too often in Evangelical circles It actually drives me nuts I'm not a Catholic I have differences theologically there's a lot I disagree with but you know what the Catholics get right they take education very seriously they take it way more seriously than Protestants do they have Clarence Thomas Brett Kavanaugh Amy Coney Barrett they have a they have an unbelievable representation at the highest levels of government of you know in the Speaker of the House Senate Majority Leader president United States you could hardly call them Catholic the point is that they have been they had a multi-decade plan to build institutions to try to pour into young people to try to then change culture we need to do a much better job of that that's why we're doing what we're doing a Dream City Christian a turning point Academy send your kids there by the way to try to have that multi-decade approach I can't speak as much to the Mormon deal as except in the LDS community and it's changing because there's a lot of wokism in the LDS world and I spent a lot of time with Mormons and I've you know we work with a ton of LDS and I think very favorably again I'm not Mormon I think very favorably of a lot of what they do and what they believe in obviously with some huge differences needless to say is that they care about America and they really have for quite some time that's changing but traditionally the LDS Community has been some of the most patriotic uh fighters in the conservative World a lot more than evangelicals and quite honestly I think they traditionally and again that has changed in recent years they deserve a lot of credit for how much they've cared about this beautiful country so I think that we evangelicals can learn from Catholics and LDS in that regard I I would just add what is the church what is the Christian Church something around 70 percent of Americans say they're they're Christians today okay uh but before coven um about 20 of our population was still going to church on a regular basis and since covered 30 of those have stopped going so the best we can figure there's about 10 percent of us um Americans so around 30 35 million Christians actually believe and and love the Lord but we're staying silent and we're sitting inside a lot of these issues going on we can't stay silent anymore but I'm saying that we with the Charlie's of this world or we support them to do it uh you know in your face thank God for Charlie you know but uh independent of that it there's there's so much hypocrisy and they see one of us where they see somebody that's out there and they don't know what they have no idea what Christianity is I don't know what an Evangelical is anymore very you know we were down to like 25 percent of evangelicals even holding a Biblical world view or even thinking that g is the only way to to get to heaven anymore it's it's it's it's a it's it's puts all the more pressure on us those of us who know the Lord to speak the truth and speak in love and we'll make a difference amen your question um so they told me I had to ask a question so I'm gonna see how this question correlates with what I wanted to say so I'm the same way where I love everybody I I love everybody and I've been told by multiple people you don't know what that word is you know stop telling people you love them and I go you can't tell me I don't love them I care about their well-being like I want to see people genuinely happy and filled with joy I might not be in love with anybody but I do love everybody um so like you said when you have that Holy Spirit and it just fills you with joy and it's just exhilarating and it was hard for me to even stay in my seat like I saw you even want to just jump up same you know uh how do you stop from like turning that joy into like obnoxiousness that makes you know because it's really it's really hard when you're in a public place you're like sorry guys but I just I feel it I feel it you know like it's it's like I'm trying to settle down but like I sometimes don't want to praise God well um I don't know if anybody's ever called me obnoxious yeah um I I don't offend anybody I I measure it you know I keep it I mean I'm not ready to burst for Joy all the time but I just measure it and and I use it accordingly but you just love everybody when you love them it's not just loving them I understand it's not loving them it's Allowing God to love them through you and there's a difference I just love everybody oh I love you all or you could be saying when you when you love them without God to love them there is a a bit of a governor I would say that just allows your words to come out in a way that really does love them and help them to see Jesus Through you they wonder you want people to say I want what he has you know and it's all it works it works really well thank you this question is for either of you um I have a family that I love tremendously I spread the word of God to them from my friends my family my kids my my grandkids excuse me uh if a family member believes in Jesus Christ um but is living unsound Doctrine how do you how do you get them to lead a more life in a more sound Doctrine way you know um I got to tell you family members are the hardest people to reach right hey Mike how many anybody it's really difficult it can happen but it's not it doesn't happen all you can do is just really love on them and and allow God to just um confirm that love to them and and and allow God to open up the timing he just can't the moment you start pushing you're you've lost the battle what if that sound Doctrine difference is creating a division how do you do you just wait for God to answer your prayers yeah well yes um I don't want to get real personal on this but I can but I certainly have people close to me that are that are in that area and I just love on them and I pray for them and I look for opportunities to say different things to them but but it's I'm not running a short race I'm running I'm running a bit of a marathon here but I'll never cross the line where I will get them upset or make them think that I'm more even more important to them or more holy than them I just I just want to be there and love them and be careful them it's amazing how things will happen in their lives all of a sudden and now they want to talk and and they'll Circle back are more more likely they'll go to somebody that's not a family member but or you just just gotta love them as and and just be precious to them and don't do anything to upset them or or or to move them in in in the wrong direction thank you so like Jesus says that in the Bible that it is harder for us to preach in our own town how do you feel the difference between being in another country from being in America has changed you in your life experience well first off I think you can be a prophet in your own town I have been all my life and in my business and everybody's known it but I've I've Loved on people and just model what they've had it's amazing the people that come to my office asking for help even though they've been Christians sometimes even Jewish and so loving on everybody evenly opens up the door I think Karen and I are most profound experience we were behind the Iron Curtain and and we saw people who were there was like eight family members in a three-room Blow apartment with a with a with a coal stove and they had nothing and they had more joy than Karen I had ever seen before because they were trusting God to keep them out of jail tomorrow they were trusting God for the next meal they're trusting God for everything they had no without God they had nothing and Karen and I walked away from that experience so he said who's impoverished I think the word the impoverished ones uh you know as God looks down I think he sees that the persecuted church is a much better model for Christianity than the the church that the church is living with all the afterwards that we have in America it's tough but you know what you could you could still learn that by I mean we may not be suffering for things but when you say God make me a blessing today help me move everybody every day closer to Jesus and the people that come to you with their needs it's just just amazing and then you you need to have the right words you need to have the right scriptures and all and all sudden you're on that on that Cutting Edge of that and all of a sudden you find your joy is coming from from being on The Cutting Edge and doing what God's called you to do and that's an amazing experience thank you hey Charlie here Barry thank you for presenting us today it's unfortunate or maybe rather fortunate what happened to Tucker Carlson so here's my question what can we do for turker to show that we love him and support him but do it in such a way that sets an example for what we ought to do for people who get canceled or cut off Ishmael right yeah welcome back um so let me two things I it is sending a message that the ratings are down dramatically let me tell you it is setting a massive message the second thing is look I the the spirit of Tucker's journalism is that of an independent voice in Independent Media we are seeing corporate media fall apart and that's a really good thing and if you don't know what I'm talking about you please get involved you know get into podcasting get into real America's voice we're on there for two out anyone watch us on real America's voices anyone yeah thank you guys I love you guys and I want more people to be aware of the channel where Steve Bannon does two hours we do two hours and I think it's if you watch just a little bit of band and a little bit of our show I think you get better news than almost any other lineup out there I'm a little biased but you know I think I think it's a pretty good one-two punch but the other thing is whatever he does next um I hope that there and I believe there will be millions of people overnight that gravitate to that platform that concept whatever it is um I have no idea where he'll land but I mean I think Tucker in an unscripted unfiltered format I think he could challenge Joe Rogan as one of the most successful podcasters Tucker has a youth appeal younger people love Tucker they love how genuine he is how persuasive he is um in some ways you're only going to make Tucker more popular the further away from the cable television box he is if he actually gets into that unscripted long-form kind of Tim pool-esque type conversation watch out I think he could do a lot of damage and a lot of good but then the final thing is we should all be praying for Tucker this is a spiritual war my fear is that they say we have you locked up till February 2025. and we lose one of our most effective voices through the 2024 election that is probable at this point they have the contract they they have not fired him they're still paying him his 20 million dollars a year and you and you might say well why doesn't he just quit it doesn't it if he quits it doesn't matter they have a non-compete until 2025 so it's actually in his best interest not to quit to actually use a leverage of a public war against Fox at this point so he needs your prayers he does he's in great spirits he's in the middle of a highly intense spiritual battle but my advice to you is please the same way that you are changing your consumer habits we are no longer going to woke companies please change your information consumption habits please support Independent Media we need it we really do uh because corporate media is not the answer to our problems thank you let me take a little more of an umbrella view for a moment because we can get all twisted about what this truck going to be the nominee or not is Tucker going to happen and there's a million things going on right now um that we need to be concerned about but not worry about what are you praying about what what fills your prayers uh I'm I'm noticed that so many Christians when you go out to eat they'll just do nothing but talk about all these problems I mean it's just further most into their friend their friend God help us in this this stop it you know God has everything under control and I I'm absolutely convinced that um had had I'll just say if Trump had been elected and he made America great again we would not be where we are today spiritually the fact of the matter is that the world is coming to us the none church is coming to us 80 of the unchurched are coming to us they want to you know that 40 of of the of Americans now would believe were in the last days I mean is is it's astounding with all the bad stuff going on God's getting the attention of the populace of the United States meanwhile only one percent of us helping them telling the telling the telling the truth so the opportunity for us and whatever fills your prayers your God if you're praying for certain problems in your life it could be Health fronts it could be job problems whatever if that's filling your life God would just let you flap in the wind because you're not his first love and you're worrying and if you're worrying he's saying you're like a wave of the seed driven by the wind and toss a double-minded man on in in all your ways so how do you give back we have absolute 100 faith and when you answer you when you pray you're going to have answers to that you do that by stepping into the promise like out follow the nudge living in the fog you follow the nudge where God nudges you he nudges all of us I should call that first they just got the word that they're dying they got cancer I should call them but I don't know what I'm going to say I'm sitting across the table from an unsafe person they're ringing they're pouring up their heart to me I should say I should can I pray for you but they might think I'm a fool I see somebody in a problem and well I should stop but I I got a problem I got a Bible study or whatever We're Off to the Races no when you follow the night you live in the fog follow the nudge I guarantee every time you do that God will fill you and use you and you'll live you'll walk in right into this promise of Romans 8 28 folks all things work together for good he'll take your life and change it completely it ignites your life so there's nothing like it so all these things are going to happen but you know what you know Jesus is coming and the darker it gets the closer we are to him and the easier it is to share our faith with everybody around us it's amazing and and I'll I'll just tell all you I I'm not perfect in the regard of having no fears none of us are right I mean I'll be very honest one of the most disappointing and temporarily fearful moments I had is when Kerry Lake was you know announced she wasn't going to be Governor like oh my goodness is this happening and it happens to all of us right and so it took a lot of faith and okay God what are you gonna use in this moment I'm really not seeing it right and so we're all guilty of that right and so we could all do better okay you'll be the last question last last Point as America you could say this to anybody I don't care how Heathen they are see what's the soul what's what's the solution to it you just say do you understand that the further away you could even say to people are atheists well you understand when you're the the further away you get from God the more angst and the more chaos and the more disunity and all the fighting and all that everybody says yes everybody does so what's the answer the answer is we need as a country and as individuals we need to get back in sync with God we have that will have unity and that solves all the problems and everybody can understand that real quick okay oh um so I have kind of a more personal question my sister um is in the hospital for a mass tumor and cancer right now and um I don't know how long she has and I recently had a conversation about her beliefs and she she's shy but she believes in Jesus Christ she believes in God but she also believes that Jesus Christ Buddha and other religions higher power are all the same and I know what that means I know where that leads for her if she were to so I I don't I want to reach her I'm I need to reach my sister and I don't know how to do that without because she believes that she's going to heaven I just I don't know how to just Turner to before it's too late and I I just want to know how to go about that please break breaks are hard to hear that and all of us have had those kind of situations and all we can do is just pray for the Holy Spirit to use us and bring other people in to use use them as well and touch your heart she has to that last moment right I spoke at a funeral last week and the guy was a calendar of his entire life and just before he died somebody totally unknown came in to talk to him about the Lord and he couldn't even talk and he grabbed the hand and squeezes saying I understand is there the last moments of his life you know if you're that person I'll give you a real quick example of how do you do it correctly when you're dying and you are a Christian Mr bottle love the Lord totally love the Lord unbelievable just let people the Lord did all kinds of wonderful things for Life ended up with cancer she was dying horribly the pain was unbelievable they could not stop for pain and she dies and we go to the funeral and this time I'm mad at God I mean I mean spokes coming up I'm really mad at God but I get mad at God I tell I think God could handle it he just shakes his fists on streets he just added us we have to lea