Charlie Kirk Explains the Twitter Ban and Victor Marx on Spiritual Warfare Against Demonic Forces

thank you everybody thank you please take a seat barry that was awesome wasn't that great barry's testing what that was so amazing we need to share our faith with boldness everybody and i'll tell you i've uh i think i've known barry what for uh eight years more or less maybe almost a decade and everywhere i go waiters waitresses car valets he's sharing his testimony he's sharing the gospel with everyone um that kind of boldness inspires me it really does so that was really special um i want to i want to talk about a couple things and then we're gonna have our very special guest here tonight who's he's special i'll tell you what we're gonna talk about a lot of different things and if you don't follow victor marks after tonight you will follow victor marks he's doing some incredibly important work uh but first there's a birthday tonight my mother-in-law's birthday lori stand up we call her fightful and we're gonna sing her happy birthday the mother of my beautiful wife on three okay one two three happy birthday to you happy birthday to you happy birthday dear glory [Applause] so i want to start tonight talking about something a little bit more national than we're used to at the beginning of these things usually we talk about things happening locally and there have been some phenomenal accomplishments the arizona legislature has been very very busy thankfully the arizona legislature has passed a law that immediately got challenged as soon it was as soon as it was passed saying that only u.s citizens should vote in elections in arizona pretty simple right [Applause] also some phenomenal pro-life pieces of legislation have been passing through uh the house and the senate and also signed by the governor which is huge victories for life but i want to talk about something nationally that involves me personally involves the church and it involves cultural issues it involves education it's something that whether you like it or not this issue is going to come front and center for each and every one of you so i'll kind of start by telling you what my last couple weeks have been uh conor is up here somewhere we were kind of going through what we wanted to express on social media uh for the week and we were kind of really outraged that a person who was born a biological man uh was becoming woman of the year and was called by usa today the a woman of the year and so we knew that social media could be very sensitive to this so we were very careful the way we wrote the tweet um and we said that this person once had a name of richard levine and then changed the name to rachel levine uh 54 years spent as a man had a couple children and then was named a woman of the year and then biden made them like a health secretary rear admiral deal and where are the feminists that was basically the tweet so i tweet that out and i get banned from twitter right so i just love when people applaud when i get banned i totally agree by the way that's the appropriate reaction and so all this happened so quickly so the day before the babylon b which should be your trusted news source by the way just so you know more accurate than cnn fake news you can trust babylon b it's a satire website and when you read it's just i'll give you one example of what the babylon b would say which is cnn praises taliban for wearing masks during invasion of kabul like that's the type of stuff just to give an idea of that sort of stuff that they write so the babylon b tweeted something very similar they get kicked off of twitter i lose my twitter account day after tucker carlson tweets about how both of us have lost our twitter accounts he loses his twitter account so this is kind of this rolling thing now let me be very specific though uh twitter offered me an opportunity to get my twitter account back uh they all i had to do though was acknowledge i violated their policies and that i engaged in hate speech and press this red button so a lot of people message me just charlie do it get your twitter account back and i thought to myself i thought of actually our gatherings here how many times in the last year we've been doing this for just about a year have i told you to hold the line and it's worth the cost and what a hypocrite i would be if all of a sudden i pressed the red button to get my twitter account back when i told it's going to cost all of us something right and look i'm far from taking credit from anything but what just happened is so incredibly hilarious and awesome and just god had his hand on this whole thing so i get banned babylon b gets man tucker carlson gets banned now someone else loves the babylon b it's his favorite news source the world's richest man loves reading babylon b elon musk and so we were kind of part of this whole kind of news story where elon is like wait a second they're banned from twitter because they made a joke and all this the kind of censorship was happening and mass suppression of speech all of this kind of happening simultaneously and i thought it really was a satire article when i woke up monday morning and all of a sudden elon musk becomes twitter's number one shareholder i said this this can't be actually happening now let me be clear you know elon there's a lot wrong with elon i i understand that i'm not defending him he does a lot of stuff with neurolink which i don't like messing with the brain and i don't like to kind of push towards a mandatory push towards electrical vehicles but however if someone wants to come down and fight for free speech online i say you know what good for that person truly because about time that someone starts to deploy their assets and their resources that way but so that's happening right now which is a really positive development in the last uh couple of weeks and i would i would just imagine what would have happened if the babylon b and myself if we would have just deleted the tweet it probably wouldn't have resulted in elon coming off the sidelines and doing that however i want to focus on kind of what the re why the regime was so focused on censoring us and what motivated them to censor us now without getting too graphic some of the worst material you could imagine is on twitter graphic pornography i want to give you an example vladimir putin has a twitter account and i don't have a twitter account right so we're supposed to say that russia is the worst thing ever and yet he still has a twitter account but there's a reason why they censored us it's because we talked about the issue you're not supposed to talk about which is biological men and biological women now mind you all of this has happened just the last couple weeks since we have last met this has now become like the premier issue that we as a civilization are kind of thinking about and contemplating and it happened in a variety of different ways the first of course is when women swimming basically got completely abolished and no one wanted to talk about it many of you know this story where the university of pennsylvania swimmer biological man born that way 462nd best male swimmer transitions to become a female ncaa champion very few people stood up and protested it ncaa allowed it women's sports basically as we know it completely and totally abolished so that happened levine was named woman of the year and then something else really interesting happened which was another revealing moment now mind you if i were to have you come up to the microphone tonight a month ago and name the 10 most dangerous companies to your children you would probably say facebook and you would say google and but there's a company you probably wouldn't list but you're already listing it for me right now this is very important that every christian takes note of this you want action items i'm going to give you an action item tonight i'm going to give you an action item to remove sending your money to a specific company and do something about it but here it got revealed the most amazing way is that governor ron desantis who just god bless him for his courage and for his conviction this is phenomenal a bill got sent to his desk and i encourage you all to read the bill seven pages nowhere does it say you can't say gay that's how they characterized it it was very clear that kindergarten first second and third graders should not be taught about sexual matters whether it be homosexuality or transgenderism or sex ed not the place for that and parents should be able to have access to their kids medical records such as are they be administered puberty blockers and all these things it happens in secret in a lot of schools across the country so again this bill is very vanilla right this bill is not something controversial ten years ago this bill would have passed with unanimous consent and no one would have done anything about it but the reaction to it was so undisciplined and erratic and irrational and the the reaction came from the most unexpected organization you could imagine so every every state has a company or group of companies that run them so for example in texas i want to say run them but influence politics heavily texas it's the oil companies right in illinois it would be united airlines or boeing in new york city it would be the wall street bankers in san francisco would be the tech companies in florida it's disney they're the number one employer in florida 68 000 people work for disney they have always said that they are the family friendly capital of america when you come to orlando they basically built orlando no offense to orlando i don't think it would be one-tenth the size of it is right now it's just it's like the most humid weird place to put a city is because of disney world right and they are totally reliant on it so what does disney do disney comes out and says this is hate speech this is an attack on our youth don't say gay five million dollars to the human rights campaign but it didn't stop there the bill gets signed into law and they're unable to actually control their employees and their backlash and all these things that are happening so disney comes out and they have a zoom call that happened last week where they said quote we have a not so secret gay agenda this is now a policy at disney where 50 of their children's movies by the end of this year will have lesbian gay bisexual transgender kissing or romantic scenes in them 50 they go a step further by saying they will no longer refer to people when they come to disney world as boys or girls but persons when they come into disney world now here's what animates me and here's one of your action items disney's a 250 billion dollar company i know you're probably doing the math can elon buy disney too we'll get to that later okay the answer is it would be a very close call okay would be close depending on the share price no disney got wealthy and rich being a safe haven for families disney got wealthy and rich because you trusted them because you thought okay disney plus there's no way anything bad will happen go to disney world there's no way anything bad will happen well now disney has made a decision to no longer be a family-friendly platform disney is now a platform for radical sexual ideas for anti-biblical behavior and every god-fearing patriot in america should divest all of their dollars from the walt disney company and no longer support them in any way shape or form whatsoever [Applause] but isn't it interesting as i kind of summarize all this together banning from twitter this bill in florida all of this stuff ncaa championship they are trying to by fiat push forward an unpopular unscientific anti-reality agenda that men can become pregnant and that that makes you laugh that is the belief at the walt disney company that is the belief at apple where they have a pregnant man emoji where you can actually look on your iphone or they have a pregnant man you can look at it yourself right now and this is a this is a clarion call moment for the american church this one's not tough some issues i know that you asked for clarification on maybe gun control immigration like god created man god created a woman we don't have to overthink this one and in fact this is one of those issues where 95 of the country agrees this is insane however 95 of the country is afraid to speak out about it and it's now happening all across the country those of you with daughters they're going to try to ruin female sports for good men have a moral prerogative to protect women against other men and guess what that's what's happening right now is men are competing against other women in these sports this issue i believe is fundamental and i believe the enemy knows exactly what he is doing with this issue by pushing forward forward sexual deviancy moral confusion if you cannot properly understand what a man or a woman is how can you properly orient yourself in society on the most on the other critical issues and so i'm not going to delete the tweet maybe i'll get reinstated now that elon is there but they banned me for a reason and they're going to try to silence you for a reason because they know that if they can pervert this fundamental issue this building block issue then all of a sudden they'll be able to have you say well maybe there's no god maybe there's no such thing as right or wrong it starts with something as simple as man and woman something i wouldn't even question for the last 2 000 years and i believe bold people that are filled with the spirit are going to be the instrumental reason why this gets back into a place of reality and gets anxious to anchor to the truth so we're going to keep on exploring that during question and answer but i want to bring our guests up victor marks is just amazing now i am indebted to victor marks because i met victor at an event last summer and i was so blown away by his dog i was like i want one and so he helped set that up you guys know mr briggs or have seen a picture of him um they come from the same company bad in k9 in canada they're amazing and victor is just incredible he uh has he has a full-time ministry uh where he goes and teaches biblical truth with marriage you guys were just in iraq doing a marriage conference where you not exactly the hot spot for a marriage conference a christian marriage conference but maybe it was the hot spot um anti-child sex trafficking all across the world one of the most powerful ministries and someone who loves the lord and i'll tell you what in a world where it's hard to find strong men victor marx is one of them so please join me in welcoming the great victor marks [Applause] thank y'all very much i appreciate that thanks joe so introduce your friend here victor this is fifi my service cat she identifies as a cat this this is scout a scout is a belgian malinois and um i've had her five years she's she'll be she's almost she'll turn six in june and um she's one of the few dogs that's face isis fighters and then within a couple hours of you know that she was letting women and children that we had recovered or rescued hug her so it's it's a real dramatic switch but she's great and uh she's good she's a sin sniffer so who's over there that's not doing well with this that's my security guy jeff can he do some repentance one of the funniest things about scout we were in a big airport and we're walking and a guy and a gal walked up to me and and the young guy goes can i pet your dog i said well first thank you for asking because it says do not pet and and i said sure go ahead so the girl's petting her and the guy standing next to her when she was done he went to pet her and i went oh i wouldn't do that because why not i said well she's not really trained to allow men to pet her and sure as i'm sitting here he in a very loud voice with a lot of people watching goes why are you judging my gender and i said not leave it it's not a threat unless it's a threat and then we'll just unhook this for a minute we'll continue to talk so this guy goes why are you judging my joke leave it crother's clumsy so when he said why are you judging my gender leave it i said your gender and it was a guy and i was like uh because you're a guy and he goes you have no right to judge my gender and everybody's watching now and you know i'm the older white man who's a threat to america and i can feel the eyes so i just go well okay man hey okay better if you want she'll decide what gender you are [Applause] he opted not to pet her so victor uh let's talk about why why do you do what you do you travel the world you're in some of the most dangerous places you're doing rescue missions ministry why do you do it to get away from my house hi no actually no because some of the things that we do most guys come back from combat areas or the work that we do you come home to your wife you're like yeah isis was shooting at me on this trip and uh they were trying to you know we uh my wife just looks at me and goes yeah i was there with you so my wife actually of 34 years this year is one of our most courageous team members who does the deal with us all over the world [Applause] i think charlie one of the reasons why we do first it's a calling to i wasn't great in ministry in america i tried to be a pastor for a while and if you maybe she was under me for a while sorry i apologize um no when i knew because i was involved in churches as an assistant pastor and then you know i try to be a senior pastor which was interesting but when i really realized i'm not called i mean i'm called by god but not i don't fit into this space was i remember there was a guy that came in for uh counseling and he had cheated on his wife and i met with her and you know i brought him back together you know forgive him he's a bomb and all that and then a few months later he does it again and increased in really just his poor choices of perversion the third time i get a call from her and she says he's high really high smoking crack and he's violent he cheated again and he just left our house and he knocked our little toddler against the wall and she goes i don't know if he's going to come to the church but you know what do you think i should do i said you call the police right now and i am that's for your child we'll let the governmental sources take care of him and sure enough he comes to the church and he's like he saw me and he went to go to another pastor and i said i'll take this one i brought him to my office had him sit in my desk away from the door and he's like oh man it's really bad i said yeah i heard and he's like oh and then i said i heard you hit your daughter you're tolerant bouncer off a wall and then he starts this fake crying i know i don't know what's wrong with me i don't know and then he said these words maybe i should get hit i thought to myself i'm very comfortable in conflict so we i executed the laying on of hands and uh it's biblical i mean come on don't and as he's on the ground and i'm laying hands on him the door the door bust open and it's an associate pastor who's in heaven now he's like hey victor victor come here i was like i'm counseling that's really what i thought i was like did you just say i don't interrupt you and he's like come here and we step down the guy's like call the helmets and he goes hey when people come here to get counsel we don't hit them i was like oh i don't know we have a waiver he asked for it guys like i'll take it from here i go yeah he's pretty relaxed right now gonna be okay so anyway i realized and some of you don't fit into regular ministry uh and i'm not saying you know the proving ground is if you have to hurt somebody's feelings but the lord did direct my steps to finally where we started a ministry not only reaching and rescuing those in harm's way but also providing an avenue of justice to make those who are wicked unrepented evil doers peer priced for what they've done so victor talk more about what you do talk in some detail and some specifics you know give our audience a little window into that yeah we started the ministry about 20 years ago and before that we were with a little uh struggling ministry called focus on the family a guy named james dobson i don't know if you heard him so i was an assistant dr dobson for a bit and that's really where god launches out of that because he is one of the greatest men of integrity what you read what you see it is him and he i mean he's 85 and still him and miss shirley walk with the lord what a national treasure for the christian faith in in our country so my wife and i started reaching kids who were incarcerated because they had the most trauma in a condensed space and then it grew and most of this was born out of my background which i'll share in a little bit but it was interesting to see where god started placing us and it eventually led to the opportunity to go to iraq when isis invaded and started attacking killing and the lord told me to go through my wife and i just come back from burma and she's like i think the lord wants you to go to iraq and i'm like no he doesn't and uh and we gotten a good discussion about it i'm like hey i still got the mosquito fever right now i'm not ready to and she goes well you ought to pray have you prayed yet i'm like what's that got to do with it i mean and she said pray and i did i didn't even finish the prayer the lord said yeah you're going to go and then i put a gut on a team the mission was to help some girls who had been held captive by isis to help them recover from the trauma of it and this was while isis is everywhere i put together a great team former seal team guys delta some marines i did i say seo still team guys because if there's a picture taken you got to have a seal in the photo i served in the marine corps so some of you will get that and put the team together i said okay this is the mission and then my wife who's also my girlfriend because it's safer and cheaper to have her as both tells me the lord is putting on my heart to go with you i said no he's not and then we've got another argument and finally i just said you know why do you want to go and she looks at me and she says i know you and the team will find those girls and it made me feel proud like yes yes ma'am we will she goes but when you find them you can't hug them and they'll need to be hugged i'll do the hugging and i went whoa that's really we need that and then she said honey what's the worst that can happen we die i'm like yeah we we died people were dying and then she said this but then don't we win with such confidence trust me my wife is a black belt she can shoot multiple platforms work a blade drive armored vehicles she is trained and she's irish and she went and she did hug so we end up getting a house there in iraq so if anybody you want to come visit it's great i hear it's nice this time it is for about two weeks and then vents from hell open up and you can't breathe and but the opportunity is great and again like we were just in iraq recently doing that marriage conference like what you said a marriage conference three over 300 people signed up to come to a marriage conference by two americans [Applause] it gets funny when the guy's going i'm having trouble with my first wife and the second one she's kind of and that third one oh my goodness i'm like all right talk to my wife's shoes so yeah god really did bless it and you know the thing that shocked us most was the number of single young men that came out who have no role models or leaders as a man because most of their dads have been killed by isis that's what we're facing there and god is blessed and he continues to bless so yeah we we help people who've been affected by trauma whether in iraq cambodia south of the border and even here in the united states that is one of our main objectives and it's played out what we call our faith in action by looking at where darkness is and then running toward the sound of it to be the light and i don't i promise you i don't sit up here saying that we're some lighthouse we just go to the places that are so dark that if you're just a spark everybody looks and then god gets glorified so counter sex trafficking is one of our big initiatives and it is led by our team lead colonel tiggs who's here can you stand up sir just so that i want them to see your face just stand up let's give them a hand he retired from the army out of the special operations community he was a ranger that became a green beret that became a delta operator that led men and teens on over a thousand missions he was awarded five bronze stars and a silver with a v for valor for the combat and uh he has helped remove from the face of the earth what we would call the manifestation of evil in people so victor talk about you said your background prepared you for this yeah you know people ask me why do you do this and the short answer is i had a childhood that was representative of suffering and i wrote a little book and at an eighth grade level because eighth grade was the best six years of my life kickball watch me go cause i'm shaving no i you know i but uh i tell people folks will admire you for your success but they'll relate to you because you're pain and pain crosses all it's a human condition so my background is my father didn't claim me as this kid the night my mother got pregnant by him he actually shoved rosary beats down her throat and put a pistol to her head and threatened to kill her my mother would go on to marry six different men and i went to 14 different schools within 17 different houses my father had a span of time when he was a drug dealer and a pimp and then got involved in the occult it was a practicing warlock because of that unstable background i suffered as a kid i suffered physical sexual and of course emotional abuse i was tortured i don't get emotional because of the memory i get emotional because i think god redeemed my life [Applause] and truly the scripture is right what the devil meant for the worst god can redeem for the best but what i'd say to people who have suffered the hardest thing for me was to replace the lies i had believed through the suffering to replace it with the truth of how god actually views me and i'll give you an example there was one time the abuse came through my stepfather the main abuse and torture he laid me on some pallets in the middle of the summer and tied me down on my back as a kid i had a really severe concave chest and we poured water in it and then he would take a cattle prod and he'd stick the tip of it in the water not to touch my skin so it wouldn't burn me but just shocked me and my body would arch up he'd release it what most people think that when you get electrocuted like that when you release you take a breath in but actually don't because you see the you see it coming at you i would take a breath in and tighten and he would hit me with that and the moment it released air would come out i would exhale and this man was so evil he would lean forward and say boy do you know what that sound is it's the sound of hope leaving your body i had to by the grace of god learning that my hope is in jesus not the torment or the torture and certainly not what a man who was demonized would tell me and i did hate that man more than anybody else in my life and i had to get i had to get help for my brain housing group where i 123 visits in nine months to a trauma specialist you do the math i was there a lot i've been on difficult debt but keen prozac zoloft lithium abuse bar and to have a psychiatrist tell you you will never fully function and my mind thinks differently i'm like well i never really did anyway keep paying your student loan um and i can tell you right now by the grace of god i never forgot the suffering so when children suffer i still hear their cries and it is something else to be the real answer to a kid's prayer it's real it is real and if not us then who so victor talk about spiritual warfare all this is the invisible war is impacting the physical war what we cannot see is actually much more important than what we can see i agree with you because that's what the word says i i think one of the biggest problems in america um is you know the epidemic of dads men not being fathers and you know that that's more dangerous than isis attacking men not stepping up the second thing is probably pastors who don't have a backbone and i say that in the most sincere way because some of them are just jack wagons that shouldn't even be in ministry he's like can you get a different career path son and uh i'll tell you i'm shocked by the need for people in america who need to be trained and armed and equipped to fight the demonic but they can't get a pastor who will give them the goods and speak the truth so i mean i think most of the balls down to fear and and truly lack of faith they don't understand their authority and my wife and i my wife i trust me she's part spartan woman uh i mean there's there's been times where i had to do a mission i'm like hey you know this one this one it was a tough one you know you okay with in case i don't come back and i have heard from her mouth to my ears i'd rather be a widow than married to a coward go get it and i'm but it's all based on real faith it's not just bravado she's like did god tell you and i knew when we were dating she was that type of woman because there was a guy named brian wilson of the beach boys the singer and he i had trained him in some combative stuff and he wanted me to work for him and i'll never forget everybody's saying oh this is a great opportunity this young lady says did god tell you to do it i was like well you ain't gonna be so technical um i didn't take the job and i end up marrying her so i got the better deal surfing usa the spiritual warfare i realized how real it was as a young kid and i think god prepared me to be able to deal wholesale with so much demonic activity as an adult and it just didn't bother me and it certainly didn't bother my wife we have a friend in india we helped start a uh orphanage i never forget he was helping a little kid who had just become an orphan both parents did and he said something to him and the kid was crying to help him he was really patting him on his back hard and he walked away i said what did you just tell he said i told him i'll be your father you're not alone and then he said this i'll never forget this he goes victor i have learned from trauma that when you're born in the fire of life you won't be burned by the heat of life keep your eyes on the lord and then god started bringing into our lives people who were oppressed or demonized and it was pastors that started calling me right away and they would say hey i have somebody over here that's you know and i'm like what do you want me to do they're like why don't you come do something i go i'm a i'm a black belt not a exorcist and so we you know we had to kind of figure this out where we started praying and then it became very specific where we started seeing a pattern of people who were demonized and oppressed and god gave us a very simple way to find out if someone has assignments against them what are the lies they've told them when did this demon come does it have a legal right to stay is it head of a demon horde against him and then what is the truth that god speaks about this person not what the demon has been telling in the lies and then people get set free it is unbelievable and i trust me i'm i'm the reluctant evangelist and certainly the reluctant praying for people with demons but uh we just got back from a deal and i'm on the phone it's on speaker and there's a pastor going hey we really need you to come to church this is somebody's manifesting this team and i was like uh well you know you know hey just it's not my wife goes it's just a demon pastor deal with it i'm like he doesn't know don't he's scared and uh so demons don't impress her and they don't make us afraid and when we wake up it's true they get nervous that's not bravado that's the power of god that should be in every believer that when you walk into a place you they know it i believe that how um a couple minutes prior to q a how do we deal with the demonic what are some tools the bible gives us what are some truths of the bible that everyday believers can use to fight the supernatural war yeah i would say garlic my wife makes me eat garlic like it does something no i'd say the first thing is we are to take every thought captive that is the best because the battlefield's in the mind right it's not in the it's the mind so this is how i tell people you may have a certain level of oppression and i pray for people who are from children to movie stars to people in the pentagon it's it's been really fun and uh to see people get free to be able to do and have the full capacity of what god's called them to do including pray for non-believers where you pray for a non-believer to be set free and they get set free i remember one time this guy gets free and he's like wow that's really real i said yep sure is and i'm getting ready to leave he's like i said oh do you know jesus christ like in a personal way feels no i go well he just delivered you you saw that right i mean it's him i can't do it would you like to give your life to him and surrender he goes that's a very good idea that's a very good idea what do i need to do so the first thing i tell people is take every thought captive young ladies i tell young ladies look you get out of the shower you're getting dressed and you know you're in the mirror i said do you ever hear this thought in your mind that says you're ugly you are worthless no one will ever love you you are and they're like yeah i said that's negative chatter but the key here is does it say you because self-assessment is fun i need to lose weight or yeah i should do my hair but when there's another person saying you that's an entity that's a demonic whisper and trust me the whispers are a lot more powerful than the yelling at times and that's when you take that dog captive as a believer and go no i'm not going to be like my dad no i'm a new creature in christ when my family told me i would never stay married i said i'm a new creature in christ i can do all things through him who strengthens me i'm more than a conqueror i never have to cheat on my wife she never has to cheat on me i'm not going to abandon my kids i'm not going to abuse my kids because greater is heat that is in me than is he that's in this world and it's a word that renews our mind romans 12 2 don't be conformed to this world any longer but be transformed by the renewing of your mind so that's the first step and then maybe garlic it's uh victor let me ask you a question the bible talks about how satan is not everywhere he has to pick certain cities and places he is not omnipresent do you feel in the last couple of years that there is more of the demonic in this country than the country you grew up in or especially in politically and socially or morally or do you just think that we're talking about it more or do you think no it's always been the same and there there aren't times where it's more emphasized or not well no i i think christians in america have done a really good pr job for the devil those demons are over there not here and yet if you look at the fruit of people's lives divorces addiction the craziness of it all you go well yeah if they live over there they're vacationing over here all right and i i think the demonic has always been here but we're seeing the manifestation of it more in greater ways in the political realm in entertainment it's it's just i mean do you those you've been a christian remember when it was a really big thing backward masking does anybody where you would play a record backwards and hear a message from the devil satan is god or whatever i'm like oh to go back to those days now it's just in your face i mean yeah it's it's dizzy so i'll tell you it's a time it's a great time in history that god has placed us all here to stand up and move the needle for the kingdom to advance forward so victor last question is ties into kind of our theme here jeremiah 29 7 demand the welfare of the city of which you are in because your welfare is tied to your nation's welfare if we are looking at the manifestation of the invisible in the visible should we still contest in the visible against these demonic forces against the the tactics of the enemy i'd say it's both him if we don't have faith in action do we really have faith and i and i think i could take any one of y'all on a mission with us and a girl that we just had in our safe house in iraq was abducted at 11 years old by isis and has been with him seven years as a victim of sex trafficking and the worst abuse let me tell you as a christian if we could help her should we and we did and we were in iraq we had her in the house 48 hours after she was out of harm's way with isis she had a broke nose and a broken back but a big old smile and i'll tell you what is christians that are helping her no one else and we always serve people so yes we must engage against warfare that's manifested or we will lose it's that simple and when people go oh i'm praying i go great prayer changes things but also just like god told joshua get up you've been praying long enough you better get up and do something there's a time we must put our faith in action or else the devil will win and christians will feel a false sense of well i prayed but did you do were you his hands and feet and i'll tell you something you young man are a source of inspiration and encouragement for all of us gray hairs and it's not just your boys good looks and high intellect are your beautiful bride god has his hand on you a mantel and i went to his headquarters for the first time today and i'm like i want to just buy a little bus and be a tour guide and start bringing people in there it's unreal if you've never seen what god is doing and that's what we have to be part of what where is god doing it and we engaged so thank you and we will pray and support the work well thank you victor so let's line up for some questions uh you guys know the routine by now um let's keep the question short no statements please um and students get the preference two lines here and also if you've never asked a question before at one of these events you guys can cut in line because we have some people that have questions month after month that's okay so if you never asked a question before and as they line up victor can you just tell how people can support you and get behind you your website and all that sort of stuff yeah um next time we go just hop on the plane with us uh we'll issue you an ak once you arrive in a med pack i'm joking but i will say this we've had some super spiritual people in america go i saw a picture of you holding a kid and an ak what kind of missionary are you i go well probably not a great one but why don't you come on over and show me how you'll do it because i've had them shoot at us i've had my children at our home in iraq where we had to hide for three days because they were coming after us and i go i've seen it where we were in a bad spot and although i believe in prayer i believe in practical means of god what should we do here from up armored vehicles to weapons i i just got to say this real quick my wife as an intercessor prayer we were praying because it was bad one time like really exciting bad like we may be going to heaven so it's it's exciting but it's bad uh and i i go lord please send send legions of angels right now we need sin a battalion god right now and i'm just god bring them and my wife and sergeant friends she goes lord could you just send that one angel that killed all those sirens in the old testament these he's like a veteran and he's really good at killing a lot we just need one and i was like that's a good idea yeah lord what she said the one the the one specially trained delta angel we'll take that one so we do pray but we prepare i love it all right we'll start with a question here and then we'll go to the other side uh yeah this will be i guess for both of you but um i was curious both of your perspectives about how you deal with like hate and anger um you know you spoke about the hate you had for your stepdad um and i guess how you deal that not just with an instant in the past but also with something that's ongoing and then also for you you know i'm sure you have enemies that are trying to take you down on a regular basis actually yeah and so how do you not let resentment build or hate build um and keep forgiveness at the front and i just was curious on your guys's lessons that you've learned on that topic um yeah look i i struggle with it i'll be honest look there's uh if you uh listen to my podcast or my radio show there's this kind of tension where i just kind of have to stop and there's this kind of like six seconds of silence and i just kind of look around and uh then i just kind of move on from the topic because i might be talking i mean look i'll be very honest i it's hard not to have resentment when someone is intentionally destroying your country i'll be very honest it's very difficult i struggle with it i pray for peace with that and it's hard it's an injustice um it's hard when i see what's happening and um and i'm not even talking about the attacks towards me i mean that's fine but i'm just talking about when i see injustice and people get away with it right when i see all of a sudden you know there is whether it be dinesh d'souza's upcoming movie with you should all see by the way 2000 mules which is just going to be eye-opening um and i see people that are trafficking ballots in these states and they act as if they can get away with it it angers me it really does um and only the peace of jesus christ is able to bring me to some place where i don't lose my mind i mean that um and i say this to people all the time that are conservatives i say if you are not a christian okay that's your decision i think it's the wrong decision i don't think you'll last in this space i don't if you do not have the peace peace of jesus christ you will not last in this political space because you will be lied about you'll be torn down you'll be leaked on you'll be conspired against and you will not have any sort of prism to be able to make sense of what's happening in the world for me there's an eternal game at play here and i know how it ends we go to heaven satan gets thrown into the pit of hell lake of fire okay that's that's a good ending right i can work backwards from that right and so everything that but i'll be honest from a personal perspective it takes a lot of prayer and there are times when i think i'm unfairly maligned or criticized or attacked and it's it's not easy but it takes practice it takes work it really does um and it also it helps to have a good group like victor's a really good friend and become an even better friend and we were just like friends the first time we met that's just kind of how we were it's like hand in glove it was amazing um that's an important thing too when you have 10 or 12 really good people around you maybe less four or five what happens outside of that circle matters less and less it really does victor that's good it's it's a two-part question the first thing that helped me is is the scripture that said be angry but don't sin i didn't want to discount the emotion of anger because i think not enough christians get angry at what is wrong amen and but that part about you know don't sin if you're an angry christian then you got to repent your heart's getting hard and you know when we help kids and girls we've helped over 43 000 women and children in iraq and syria and yeah praise the lord it's when you hear them or you hold them and they say please kill isis um it's easy to to move toward becoming hardened and anger can turn into bitterness and there have been times where i was like lord i'm i'm starting to shift where it's it's more about the killing than the healing and we've made decisions that made bad people go away and it was righteous in our decisions but you have to guard your heart and go lord please and listen to the holy spirit the other one from my past my childhood when i tell people the best weapon i've ever used in my life is forgiveness forgiveness is the and and this is the story i'll tell you guys my stepfather who abused me horribly when i was actually working for focus on the family dr dobson i was traveling and speaking on his behalf and i went through a little town and it was a town where i had suffered abuse by his hand and that man my stepfather had been arrested put in prison and he got out and the lord told me go find him i thought man lord not that he said you need to find him and forgive them and guys i trusted god to forgive this man and forgiveness has given up your right to hurt someone back for hurting you it doesn't mean there's not justice it doesn't mean reconciliation but you're giving up your right and i was with that man in the hospital when he was dying i actually took him to the hospital and i said can i i said you're dying and you're going to go to hell big is that see why i was a great sensitive counselor and uh and he i said do you mind if i read scripture to you and uh i learned i'd rather be a kind christian than a nice one and i i said um he said go ahead if you want to i read scripture every day to him about the cross and now jesus would forgive him and the last day i would never see him again i walked in and the night before about four o'clock my wife and i got out of bed and i started actually crying that god would save him and i knew my heart was clear i walked in there and he looks at me and he looks at this nurse it was a new nurse and he goes nurse that's my son he goes i'm proud of him he goes he kind of like became a preacher and i said that's true it's kind of and this is what he said he's been worried about my eternity but he didn't have to worry anymore i made it right with god last night and i knew at that point i'd forgiven him my heart felt softer the nurse walks out of the room and then i just said lord what do you want me to tell this man and guess what god told my last words to him he said tell him you love him and i said dad i love you and he turned and he looked at me in the first time in my life ever he goes boy i love you too and i know it's done so i took a pillow and then i arizona babe it's rough in here in phoenix jeez i i lifted his neck up and put it behind it and support it was a mike lindell pillow don't worry it was mike mendel's pillow he got set free but i did and satan doesn't have a place in my heart because of anger i'm set free god bless you next question hi guys um i'm a 16 year old girl who wakes up in the morning and stalks pop lytics and turning points instagram i came across something really demonic this morning um in california they introduced a bill ab2223 and it allows mothers to kill their babies up to seven days after birth and this made me really emotional is there something we can do to fight this it's it's horrible yeah so that that's correct um so you're seeing a lot of activity happen here and victor i want you to comment on the spiritual aspect of that too in a sec um colorado passed a similar bill where they are now allowing abortion all throughout the pregnancy but that's not enough you see now they have to allow abortion after the pregnancy up to seven days after which of course is infanticide which is murder we've said that is what abortion is the entire time read the bill for yourself by the way if you don't believe us it's a b 2 4 something if i remember correctly i could be wrong associ it's assembly bill a b 2 2 2 3. it's murder yeah that's right yeah um and it has passed the committee um and it will go to a house vote a senate vote and then to the governor's signature yeah we got to let our voice be heard i think it's a opportunity to educate people on what's really happening i wish i was surprised i i'm not nothing surprises me it's a culture of death and read the bill yourself it would allow doctors to fully execute a child up to seven days afterwards um if they so choose they say of course only medical professionals they say if that would if that would be there very little to no nuance whatsoever it is infanticide but let's let's think about it though they're being consistent they are you got to hand it to them they're being consistent if you can murder a child at six weeks why not six days after right i mean they're being consistent they're running the whole thing i know that sounds really weird for me to say that but that is completely philosophically consistent with their position and i want to say look i'm glad you're pointing it out every decent person in california there's a lot of decent people left in california there's a lot of great pastors in california rob mccoy and jack hibbs just to name a few and we've heard them talk here are going to be speaking out against this i pray that this bill will be defeated um i don't i can't even imagine that every left winger will be in support of this but you know this is um it's really i'll say one final thing we always were talking about how awful post um like late term abortion is now they're talking about post birth abortion and when when the moral compass starts to slide who's to say that's wrong it's just your opinion that it's wrong if there is no god right and wrong is merely an opinion and it's playing right now in california abortion law what you're talking about is the manifestation of evil right before us it's so important for people to remember satan loves to kill children he's been doing it for a long time from burning babies in the hands of this idol molly to remember moses jesus babies being slaughtered and i think that there's a strong demonic assignment to kill children and most people follow out of emotion but not realistically and i'll tell you what i know i can make a post last week we reached i think 39 million people and i can make a post that says something pro-life and you know i'd be hypocrite if i didn't stand up for unborn children because i'm saving live ones right and people will just rage against me and i read some of the comments i go this is this person is demonically inspired but i posted a video of a kid we we couldn't save a little baby ice has killed their parents and left them next to a garbage can this tiny child in a diaper flies on it you watch this video and you're sickened at the thought of this baby being dead and then you see its legs move and you realize it's not dead yet and the number one thing people ask me were you able to save the child and i go no by the time we got the video that baby was left there to die and that's what they're doing right now we have to be able to know the reality not just the head knowledge but the reality to go you're murdering a child can i say one more thing on the abortion issue if you understand the left it makes a lot of sense why they're so passionate about it they they really want to use scientific industry and scientific advancement to try to create themselves close to god as possible and nothing makes you closer to a god than the ability to take life nothing that that to them is the ability to try to have dominion that's what they use that term over others and since they believe that there is no god and if there was a god it would be them this is this is one of the reasons why they're so focused on this issue so thank you for your question i love your heart for the lord that's very sweet thank you next question so i have a more philosophical two-part question and this is mostly for charlie but victor you're welcome to answer it as well thank you you just pointed out my iq all 60 points of it squeezing it charlie take it so my question is related to the fact that right now it feels as though conservatives and people who are pro-liberty and just pro-life in general we're being dictated to the terms by those in power and by the left so and they're defining the identities so my question is what does the word conservatism mean and is it more than just a political ideology or is it something else okay that's a good question yes so look the best way i can describe conservative that i think is without getting too deep into it is a defense of the natural law a moral right to self-government the belief that rights come from god not from government um and also conservatives believe that human beings are naturally flawed and if you believe human beings are naturally flawed then you're definitely going to want to make sure that when you have government human beings don't have all the power in one place there's a check and balance that there is a separation of powers if you will um conservatives also believe in an unchanging principles of human nature is a very important thing where we do not believe that human nature changes as time goes on so this is why the constitution is the greatest political document ever written and is a conservative document in nature in essence because in federalist 51 james madison writes he's explaining the constitution he says an observation of human nature will tell you that if all men were angels no government would be necessary and if angels were to govern men then this constitution would not be necessary what he's saying is that we know human beings are flawed so we as conservatives recognize that even though the constitution was written in 17 um the late 1787 ratified in 1791 um 1787 ratified 1791 bill of rights that we recognize that just because times change human beings do not conservatives believe that there are some things that should not change hence the word conserve that some things must stay the same liberals do not believe that leftists do not believe that they believe things are constantly changing this is why woodrow wilson was such a destructive president uh in the 1915 1916-1917 he said the founding fathers did not have to encounter the same challenges that we have to encounter they're saying that today aren't they they're saying the founding fathers didn't have to go to the same thing of having twitter or airlines the principles stay the same and so that's how i define a conservative and look so our identity first and foremost needs to be in christ it needs to be in our relationship with god but then immediately after if you're trying like well what's my government philosophy well if you believe in god you believe in a natural law and you believe in a law that doesn't change it doesn't change whether or not you have airplanes or nuclear weapons it doesn't change just because you have guns that can shoot faster the question is what are you dealing with human beings well human beings are going to sin they're going to fall they're going to try to collectivize evil and so a good thought experiment to do to a young person is what's the worst thing human beings can do and they'll say murder or steal or rape and you know that's not the question is no no the answer actually is the worst thing that someone can do is to mandate the murder to on upon everybody not just doing it individually but do it through government or through the state so you must make sure that does not happen so we conservatives come from a position that men have a moral right to be free and we want to defend and preserve that and that government gets in the way of that or power centers get in the way of our inevitable human flourishing or prosperity does that help answer your question uh yes okay great okay thanks for being here tonight appreciate it uh hi charlie my name is anderson and so i used to attend a church and recently we stopped attending it because they do preaching sort of which they talk about race in it the main senior pastor he said that there's too many white people attending our church and our my mother she had a conversation with him but he still kind of does the same things but our youth pastor he has also said the same things talking about oh i met this great couple of a black man and a hispanic mother and their child was just so beautiful and what i want to do is have a conversation with that youth pastor i wanted to ask you like what things should i say to them to try to prove that point that's not right yeah look um i hate talking about race i do i'm exhausted talking about it it just i think it's a distraction and it's terrible so let me give you a couple pieces of advice but i'll tell you i'm running out of patience talking about race your race means nothing to me and it means nothing to god let me say that again it means nothing to god whatsoever period we think it matters then we have a word for that and that word is used rather generously but it's actually racism it's racist to believe that race matters okay let me give you two two principles of christianity that i think you should challenge on these are the questions do you believe and things do what is more important that which is visible or that which is invisible ask him that question and then when not you but ask the youth pastor and he'll have to say invisible he'll have to or else he's not a christian okay now that's not to say that you can't see god you can't hear from god but the things we can't sense immediately with our five senses are way more important than the things we can sense it's the flesh versus the invisible war okay that's and then the second thing you say okay what do you take a higher preference on things you can change or things you cannot change and if you was of course a christian he should say the things you can change or else we wouldn't believe in redemptive christianity right we'd believe you become a christian through blood right and so those are the only two questions that you should ask and if he says okay well yeah i believe in the invisible more than the visible and i believe that things you can change versus things you can't change you say then how do you care about race so much because that you're focusing on things that are visible and something that can't change and therefore you're focusing on things that are unbiblical and against christianity [Applause] so that's how i would answer that question hey the only caveat to put on it i'm kind of happy these last couple of years where pastors tilted their hand down and you can kind of see what they really believe because now they're not hiding and i just go thank you i'll remember that and i tell people leave a church let god direct you to a balanced loving pastor who doesn't have all these crazy biases and and can feed the sheep and equip them for the work of the ministry let me add one thing too when you leave that church i think the exit conversation is very important uh there's a mixed opinion about this some people say leave quietly i think you should leave respectfully but i think you need to confront i i'm a big believer in this need to have a big long drawn-out meeting and know your stuff and say this is why we are leaving why after the fifth or sixth time they have to confront the family that will do that that makes a big difference and in fact nine months 18 months 24 months later they might all of a sudden remember one sentence that was said in that conversation that could change their life now i travel to churches across the country so does victor and i was just recently as a church and they were never talking about these issues but one family in the midst of all the stuff that was happening in the summer to give you an idea they were recommending white fragility by robin d'angelo and ebermex kennedy and one family who the pastor trusted says i need to see you i've known you for 35 years you have no idea the demonic influences you bring into this church one conversation and the pastor talked to me said there's no way this could all be true he never heard of thomas soul before he had never heard of any of this stuff after one conversation he said i need to take a month to study this stuff he had a complete 180 reversal and he realized that critical race theory wokism all this stuff was from the enemy and that church is now growing and they're courageous and they're talking about these things so i want to just encourage you to have those conversations they're so incredibly important god bless you man thank you for being here hello my question is for victor and the uh subject of demonic things i just think it would be so wonderful if us as christians were trained in that and could decipher it and understand it i know that we have the authority to rebuke them and all that but is there a book or a training program that we could teach ours yeah it's a great question i you know i think for the times we're in god has uh given us an approach our specific prayer we actually named it retooling and it's so effective i've prayed for a guy on the plane on the descent and seen him got set free and uh again i felt like the lord said you need to pray for this guy and i'm starting to like no it's we're on a plane and i don't want to do that and my wife she can sense it she looks at him she goes what is that i go i think the lord wants me to pray for him she goes well pray for him champ get it i'm like good you know help and i and this is how i started conversation do you believe in evil he goes yeah i said well do you ever feel oppressed by it or anybody he's like yeah i said god's given me a skill skill sets over years and i can take care of this if you want he goes well yeah i said okay and before we touch down the guy was set free and when he stood up on the plane where he's like i'm free i don't know what just happened but i'm really free and and so to your point we do have an approach that if god wills it uh we're happy to come back to this area and and meet with a group of people and and teach the approach it's very simple hence the cajun approach and and yet we've seen literally thousands of people set free and a lot of demons got their feelings hurt it's it's and again it boils down to the authority but there is a specific approach that we use that i think for the times that we're in and guess what it's not very dramatic the devil doesn't get any any kudos for right you know like shut up it's it's not in my current book but but we're we're writing another book that you know not just crayon so yes pray for us but we'd love to come back and and we do desire to help christians be equipped for the work [Applause] hi this is for victor but how do you use your past to not bring you down but to use to help others and your past trauma to forgive other people that is a beautiful question first i had to learn that the bad things that happened to me it wasn't god that caused it it was not god that's one of the biggest lies that people who suffer bad things the enemy whispers what i had to learn is that god allows people the choice to do right or wrong and it is people who do wrong to other people often inspired by forces of darkness but they're still responsible and i think see i got born again while i was a marine so that's quite the conversion and the lord showed me and he'll do it for anybody because his word says i'll redeem what the evil one meant for bad he's a great redeemer and i can tell you this much i don't think i would have the capacity to travel around the world or hunt bad people here who hurt children if i personally didn't know what it's like to be hurt and i said god thank you that you didn't cause this but you give people the free will to do right or wrong but thank you for redeeming it see him as a redeemer and watch what he does um this is for um victor um thank you for your ministry uh i grew up in abusive home and i when i left home god used your story to show and your marriage to show me that there was hope and i could have a future that was different from what i grew up and i was wondering your thoughts got people say that god is our father but i have a really hard time um and a huge conflict between paul talks about living with content and mashing that together with desire for parents i tell you i can relate to that question really good when people were trying to tell me that god wants to be my father it's a it was offensive to me i said the only examples i've had of fathers i don't want anything to do with him if he's a i had to relearn and retrain my brain of who is god he's almighty i love that he was almighty i love that he get this pass to angels but i had to learn that my relationship with him was based on one thing love and therefore i could trust him as a father because it was love and when you do that love conquers all and then you trust him as a father and sometimes you get all call him dad and you know he becomes very real in that way but he's never against anyone who doesn't see him as a loving father yet he's patient and he's loving and he still loves you and if he had a wallet he'd pull it out and it'd be your picture and go look at her i love this one she's one of my favorites so thank you it's a great question and i'm glad my story helped yours to be better we will do two more right here and then right there then we gotta wrap for the evening my friend she is kind of demonic she likes score and blood i just want to know we've been praying for her but it's kind of not working i want to k