Charlie Kirk and Erika Kirk Share Their Love Story and Advice on Faith-Based Dating

[00:00] Hey everybody, welcome to this episode

[00:03] of the Charlie Kirk show.

[00:04] >> You're going to have to do it again.

[00:05] >> Introduce yourself.

[00:07] >> Is that what I'm gonna say?

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[00:14] >> Hey everybody, welcome to this episode

[00:16] of the Charlie Kirk Show.

[00:18] >> You're so handsome.

[00:19] >> I'm engaged.

[00:23] >> Would you like to introduce yourself or

[00:24] should I introduce you?

[00:27] >> This is mortifying.

[00:31] How would you like me to start?

[00:41] All right, we'll try it again.

[00:45] >> Hey everybody, welcome to this episode

[00:47] of the Charlie Kirk Show. Joining me is

[00:49] the most special guest,

[00:52] my fiance.

[00:53] >> That was a really long pause.

[00:56] We're going to be here for hours, you

[00:58] guys.

[01:00] I'm sorry. Okay, so you started Turning

[01:04] Point in 2012, right?

[01:07] >> So Trump's first rally in Arizona was

[01:09] when? And it was

[01:11] >> it was the summer of 15.

[01:12] >> Summer of 15. So I went with my mom. I

[01:15] was a Trump fan.

[01:16] >> To a Trump rally.

[01:17] >> To a Trump rally. His first one. And

[01:21] Tyler was there.

[01:22] >> Tyler Boyer.

[01:23] >> Yes. He was there with his wife, his

[01:24] beautiful wife, and his kids. And he

[01:27] came up to me afterwards and he was

[01:29] like, "Hey, we're starting this or we

[01:30] have this organization and we're

[01:32] starting in Arizona. Would love for you

[01:34] to be a part of it." And it was one of

[01:35] those things where everything he said

[01:37] sounded super exciting, but I was

[01:39] getting ready to move to New York. And

[01:41] that was a season of life that I really

[01:43] prayed on prayed about and it was

[01:44] something I needed to move on towards.

[01:46] And so I said, "Thank you for all the

[01:48] information, but I am moving to

[01:51] Manhattan." and I was like, "Stay in

[01:53] touch." And we didn't really stay in

[01:54] touch all that much. And then I went to

[01:57] Israel. And what year was that?

[02:00] >> That was 2018.

[02:02] >> 2018.

[02:03] >> That was May of 2018.

[02:04] >> And that was the embassy

[02:05] >> opening. So I happened to be there in

[02:07] Israel, too.

[02:08] >> And so I was on a pilgrimage with my mom

[02:10] in Israel. And it was our last day. And

[02:15] we were standing in the ticket line. And

[02:17] I remember just trying to deal with

[02:20] pulling together all of the documents

[02:22] and stuff at the ticket counter. And I

[02:24] turned around and I saw someone who

[02:28] looked super familiar, but I've never

[02:30] talked to them or met them before. And I

[02:33] looked at him and I was like turned over

[02:35] to my mom and I was like, he looks

[02:37] really familiar. And didn't say

[02:40] anything. and then came back home and

[02:42] got a message from Tyler uh from who I

[02:46] had met at the Trump rally and he was

[02:48] saying, "Hey, you should come to Turning

[02:50] Point's office. We're having an office

[02:51] opening. We'd like to discuss you with

[02:54] you about everything that we're doing

[02:55] with the faith component side of things

[02:58] and yeah, we met at the office very

[03:01] briefly

[03:02] >> and then we went to Bill's Burgers in

[03:03] New York." Best burgers.

[03:05] >> Oh my gosh. So then, do you want to tell

[03:07] that part?

[03:08] >> You can tell it. They hear enough of me.

[03:11] That's all they hear is me.

[03:12] >> Okay. So, we get to Bill's Burgers and

[03:15] I'm there thinking it's a business

[03:18] interview.

[03:19] >> It started that way,

[03:20] >> right? So, we sit down and you grill me

[03:23] for what? 3 hours.

[03:25] >> Yeah.

[03:25] >> Easily on philosophy, politics,

[03:28] >> culture,

[03:29] >> religion, culture,

[03:30] >> economics.

[03:31] >> Economics. What else? Everything else

[03:33] you can imagine. He grilled me. Anything

[03:34] he talks about on his podcast show, he

[03:36] grilled me on

[03:37] >> pretty much.

[03:38] >> Just didn't record it.

[03:40] And then afterwards he got finished with

[03:44] his burger and he just sat there and he

[03:46] looked at me and he's like, "You know

[03:48] what? I'm not going to hire you." I was

[03:50] like, "That's fine. I don't need this

[03:53] job. I doing plenty of other things here

[03:55] in Manhattan." He's like, "I'm going to

[03:57] date you." And

[04:00] you want to take it from there.

[04:02] >> And you said you were kind of confused.

[04:04] >> Of course I was confused.

[04:07] Now, I was somewhat blunt.

[04:09] >> Mhm.

[04:10] >> And how'd that make you feel?

[04:14] >> Good. You guys, wait. I have a question.

[04:16] >> What?

[04:17] >> Is this boring?

[04:19] >> No.

[04:20] >> Okay.

[04:20] >> No, this is not boring.

[04:23] No, it's not boring, right? Okay.

[04:25] >> Yeah. Stop. You're fine. You're fine.

[04:27] >> Okay.

[04:27] >> So, how did that make you feel

[04:29] >> when when I was that blunt? And I ask

[04:31] because people are trying to obviously

[04:33] compare this to their own life.

[04:35] >> Mhm. So, what how do I put this? I think

[04:40] we live in a day and age where dating is

[04:42] looked at as just this

[04:46] let's go out for drinks or let's go out

[04:48] for coffee, let's get to know each

[04:50] other, let's, you know, take it the and

[04:52] God knew I needed someone who was so

[04:54] assertive that was going to be like no,

[04:57] this is what I want. We're going to

[04:59] pursue this dating very seriously and go

[05:02] from there. And so I think I was taken

[05:05] back by the fact that you were assertive

[05:07] and you knew what you wanted, but at the

[05:09] same time it was something that I didn't

[05:11] even know I needed and I was like, you

[05:13] know what, this is he's he's the guy.

[05:15] And I remember trying to process it on

[05:18] the walk home because I literally had to

[05:20] walk from Bill's Burgers was that 50

[05:23] seconds right near Rockerfeller Center.

[05:24] Yeah.

[05:24] >> Right. All the way back to 30th of

[05:26] Madison just trying to like New York was

[05:29] >> the city.

[05:30] >> Oh, and home for me. I remember calling

[05:32] my mom and she was like, "Did you get

[05:34] the job?" And I was like, "No, but I got

[05:35] a boyfriend."

[05:38] >> And I tell this to young men all the

[05:40] time. I say, "You must be very direct."

[05:41] Cuz these young men, they wrap a tap

[05:43] dance around the issue. And

[05:45] >> Mhm.

[05:45] >> they are never actually and my not I

[05:49] shouldn't say never, but far too often.

[05:51] >> Yeah. I mean, don't be so direct where

[05:53] you are just

[05:54] >> a jerk.

[05:54] >> A jerk. But you can be assertive to the

[05:56] point where you're like, "Look, I don't

[05:58] want to I don't want to hurt your

[05:59] feelings. I don't want to get my

[06:00] feelings hurt. I'm really serious about

[06:02] this and I would like to pursue you in a

[06:05] very intentional manner.

[06:06] >> So, we've had two great years.

[06:08] >> We have had two great years.

[06:09] >> Done a lot of crazy things.

[06:11] >> Mhm. Traveled all over

[06:12] >> Israel,

[06:14] London.

[06:15] >> Mhm.

[06:16] >> Vienna.

[06:17] >> Oh my gosh. Yeah.

[06:19] >> Uh and then of course all over the

[06:21] country.

[06:21] >> Mhm.

[06:22] >> And the election.

[06:24] >> Which has been something. And so you've

[06:26] been working very hard on what we're

[06:28] wearing, your sweatshirt. Yeah.

[06:30] >> Proclaim street wear.

[06:32] >> Mhm.

[06:33] >> So, tell everybody about that.

[06:35] >> Right. So, I started that two and a half

[06:39] Well, let's see here. No, longer than

[06:41] that. I started it um yeah, I guess 2

[06:44] and a half, 3 years ago. So, this is the

[06:46] relaunch of it. But back in August of

[06:49] 2016, I was coming home from Boston,

[06:52] from New York, and I had a friend send

[06:55] me this video. I don't know, did you

[06:57] ever see it? It's a video on YouTube

[06:59] where this guy, this homeless guy

[07:00] sitting on the subway freezing and

[07:03] someone else on the subway sees him and

[07:04] puts walks over.

[07:06] >> I might have saw it.

[07:07] >> Yeah. Walks over to him, puts on him,

[07:09] the freezing man, his sweatshirt and his

[07:11] t-shirt and clothes him and has zero

[07:14] dialogue with the homeless man. And to

[07:16] me, it just showed um how powerful it

[07:19] is, how your actions speak more than

[07:22] your words. And so for me, uh, I was in

[07:26] and out of sleep on that train. And

[07:29] Isaiah 61 kept being talked about in my

[07:31] dream. And so when I woke up, I read

[07:33] Isaiah 61. And it was just beautiful. It

[07:37] was so powerful.

[07:39] And like most times when you read

[07:41] scripture, you're like, "This is

[07:42] beautiful. I'll, you know, live it out,

[07:44] but what am I, you know, I go about my

[07:47] day?"

[07:47] So then it wasn't until my grandfather

[07:50] had passed away in October of that year

[07:52] that I came across really the mission

[07:55] and purpose of Proclaim Street. And I

[07:58] love my grandparents. You know that both

[07:59] of us do. We've always had a soft spot

[08:01] in our heart for our grandparents. And

[08:03] so when he passed away to cope with

[08:06] that, uh, he passed away at 3:11 p.m.

[08:09] And I went through every single Bible

[08:10] verse of chapter 3:1 and came across

[08:14] Luke 3:1 that says, "If you have two

[08:17] shirts, give the second one away to

[08:20] someone in need." Um, and that's a

[08:22] paraphrase, but long story short, um, I

[08:26] started to pay attention more to the

[08:29] unnoticed in the city of Manhattan. And

[08:32] all these people in the streets during

[08:34] the colder seasons who didn't have

[08:37] really anything. I mean, they had a

[08:39] t-shirt or, you know, a blanket or a

[08:41] comforter to keep them warm, but a lot

[08:43] of them are just on the streets

[08:44] freezing. And I remember even just

[08:47] taking pictures on my phone to just

[08:49] remind me of either where they were on

[08:51] the cross street so I could bring them

[08:52] something um if I passed them again or

[08:55] just to be able to use that as fuel and

[08:58] as a drive to continue to push towards

[09:00] getting Proclaim going. Um so I I was

[09:04] like this is this is the mission. Isaiah

[09:06] 61 and Luke 3:11 blended together. So

[09:08] that's Proclaim Street and um with this

[09:11] it's purpose- driven. So every item has

[09:13] a certain give back component attached

[09:15] to it. So you're wearing the sweatshirt

[09:17] and the sweatshirt.

[09:18] >> Very nice.

[09:18] >> Yeah. It's amazing. So

[09:19] >> it's all made in America.

[09:21] >> That's the one thing I would not

[09:22] compromise on is the fact that

[09:24] >> some people told you not to.

[09:25] >> They did. I had mentors in the fashion

[09:27] industry that said

[09:28] >> make it in Wuhan. Right.

[09:30] >> That's what they said.

[09:32] >> Yeah. No, I don't think really anything

[09:35] good comes out of Wuhan.

[09:37] >> They said go make it in China. But this

[09:39] is made in America. So, it's made in in

[09:42] LA and then our other items are made in

[09:44] Manhattan. Um, so but everything that's

[09:47] something I just would not compromise on

[09:49] was making it in the States. I believe

[09:52] you invest in what you believe in. And

[09:54] to me, that's the American seamstress,

[09:56] the American worker, the American mill

[09:59] and fabric owner.

[10:01] >> And you could tell just it's much higher

[10:03] than the nonsense we import from

[10:05] >> Oh, like Gilden and all the textile

[10:08] stuff. So it's all ethically sourced.

[10:11] >> Sustainably sustainably made

[10:13] >> bamboo.

[10:14] >> So no that's not the t-shirts are

[10:15] bamboo. So each item has is purpose

[10:18] driven. So for the sweatshirts when you

[10:19] purchase a sweatshirt you're given the

[10:21] option of accepting the second

[10:24] sweatshirt as a gift and you taking it

[10:26] taking it upon yourself to go gift it to

[10:28] someone in need on the streets during

[10:30] the winter season. Someone who's cold

[10:31] that you see need something or someone

[10:33] that you feel like you can interact

[10:35] with. Um, and it's up to you to proclaim

[10:37] to them whatever God has placed in your

[10:39] heart, whether that's uh anything about

[10:42] Jesus, whether that's anything about

[10:43] scripture. Um, but we are a Christian

[10:46] clothing line and that's something that

[10:47] we are unapologetically very proud of.

[10:50] And so, um, if you decide not to pass

[10:52] out your second sweatshirt, the

[10:54] Proclaimed street team does it for you.

[10:56] And we had several outings in Manhattan

[10:58] with over the past few years prior to co

[11:01] and it was so powerful to witness u just

[11:04] everyone out there handing out the

[11:05] sweatshirts and being able to talk to

[11:06] people. Um so yeah

[11:08] >> and it's proclaimed streetear.com.

[11:10] >> Mhm.

[11:11] >> That's where people can go.

[11:12] >> Yeah. So

[11:13] >> and you've had a great launch.

[11:14] >> The launch has been unbelievable and

[11:16] that's all glory to God. But I don't I'm

[11:19] like you. We've talked about this all

[11:20] the time. We don't believe in having our

[11:23] faith just be in certain boxes. Like we

[11:26] really want to be able to live out our

[11:28] faith boldly. And

[11:30] you know, especially when it comes comes

[11:32] to culture. You can't transform culture

[11:33] without Christ.

[11:34] >> So, everyone should check out proclaimed

[11:36] street.com. You also you're getting your

[11:38] doctorate from Liberty.

[11:39] >> I am. Mhm.

[11:40] >> You already have your jurist master.

[11:42] >> I have all the college degrees, so you

[11:43] never have to go to school.

[11:44] >> You have them all for me.

[11:45] >> I do. We're a team. Same team.

[11:48] >> You were Miss Arizona.

[11:49] >> Mhm. I sometimes leave that off my

[11:51] resume, but yeah,

[11:51] >> I include it.

[11:52] >> Thank you.

[11:53] >> So, a lot of young people say, "What

[11:56] advice do you have for dating and

[11:57] relationships?"

[11:59] >> We can There's a lot of different ways

[12:00] we can go that way. What's What's on

[12:02] your heart with that?

[12:04] >> Gosh. Um,

[12:07] I think a lot of people get frustrated

[12:09] with the season of waiting. And I think

[12:11] it's something so powerful to be able to

[12:13] be in that season of really um, letting

[12:16] God mold your heart and mold you into

[12:19] the man or woman that he needs you to be

[12:20] for your spouse. And sometimes we rush

[12:23] that, but I think seasons are so

[12:25] important and every second that you live

[12:26] your life is connected to a season, but

[12:28] a season is not your whole lifetime

[12:31] period. Um, and I think that having just

[12:35] that intentional time with God to be

[12:37] able to just stay focused in the word to

[12:41] literally pursue what he has placed on

[12:43] your heart, he'll he knows who you're

[12:46] supposed to be with. And I think when we

[12:47] get when we rush that and we put our

[12:49] faith in algorithms like Bumble and what

[12:52] are the other ones I have never been on

[12:54] before, Tinder,

[12:56] >> all those apps, you you are just

[12:58] constantly swiping. And I saw that whole

[13:00] hookup culture in New York cuz I've had

[13:02] friends that lived it. And it's

[13:05] exhausting and it's I feel bad for

[13:06] people who go on these dates and then

[13:08] they're they're so excited. They get

[13:10] fully invested into someone and then

[13:12] they totally get ghosted and it's

[13:14] heartbreaking and it's and it makes

[13:16] people question, okay, am I not the

[13:18] right person? Do I need to change

[13:19] myself? Do I need to say things

[13:21] differently? Um, so it's just it's one

[13:23] of those things where I think having

[13:24] that waiting period of of

[13:28] >> you know, I guess

[13:31] I guess you could say fueling yourself

[13:34] with things that make you a better

[13:36] person and focusing on doing things for

[13:37] the kingdom.

[13:39] >> And you just keep running your race and

[13:40] running your path and God will line up

[13:42] someone next to you that's running

[13:44] alongside of you. not someone who's

[13:45] going to take you off track, but someone

[13:47] who keeps you focused on on him um and

[13:50] doesn't detract your attention from

[13:51] that.

[13:52] >> Young men ask me all the time. They say,

[13:54] "Well, how do I find somebody? How do I

[13:55] find somebody?"

[13:56] >> Mhm.

[13:57] >> And how do I find a Christian, you know,

[14:00] woman?