Charlie Kirk and Mark Halperin Discuss Democrat Reactions to the Trump-Elon Musk Rift and Reconciliation

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[00:31] charlariekirk.com. We are here at the

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[00:36] studio. We have a phenomenal guest and a

[00:39] regular of the show, Mark Halprin,

[00:41] editor-inchief of two-way and host of

[00:43] Next Up on the Megan Kelly Network.

[00:46] Mark, great to see you. I'm coming on

[00:48] your show a lot, so you had to

[00:49] reciprocate. Great to have you back on

[00:50] the program. Uh, delighted to be here

[00:53] and uh, you've inspired me. I need to

[00:55] get a name for my studio. I needed

[00:56] something for maybe the Fredo Lays. Yes,

[00:59] you got Come on. Wendy's. Hey, look. You

[01:02] got to name it. You got to name the

[01:03] studio. You got You got You got to name

[01:05] every If If it's not moving, you got to

[01:07] label it or brand it. So, um So, so

[01:10] Mark, there's a question I I've been

[01:13] meaning to ask you, which is how from

[01:15] the outside are Democrats, how were they

[01:18] viewing the Elon Trump situation last

[01:21] week? And then how is it settling in

[01:24] their mind today? At least from my

[01:26] outsider perspective, it seemed as if

[01:29] there was some sort of like joy and

[01:31] delight in the kind of schism, but it

[01:33] looks as if that is being healed. From

[01:36] the Democrats that you talked to, walk

[01:38] us through the um the inside of like the

[01:42] inside chatter that they're having,

[01:44] Mark. So, I think there are two groups

[01:46] of Democrats who I've talked to about

[01:48] this. So I'd break them down and and the

[01:50] larger group uh tends to respond to

[01:53] things uh always leading with Trump

[01:55] derangement syndrome and and so for them

[01:58] anything that's you know chaos with

[02:00] Donald Trump's world or anything that

[02:01] suggests uh a negative storyline that

[02:04] the press is going to cover they like

[02:06] they just kind of have a visceral

[02:08] reaction to it. So they're just happy to

[02:10] see Donald Trump, you know, in conflict

[02:12] and and they always want to then plug

[02:15] that into their sustaining now decadel

[02:18] long narrative of he's the chaos

[02:20] candidate, he's the chaos president. Um

[02:22] all this is going to come a cropper

[02:24] because he doesn't have any idea what

[02:26] he's doing and he's so murial. there's a

[02:28] smaller, more thoughtful group that

[02:31] recognizes that the party has a problem

[02:35] uh from a practical point of view on on

[02:37] fundraising and and and a relationship

[02:40] to the future with Silicon Valley

[02:43] because the Silicon Valley wing of

[02:45] America used to be much more aligned

[02:47] with the Democrats ideologically,

[02:49] practically in terms of helping with

[02:52] campaigns, etc. And that's shifted now.

[02:54] Now, it's not a 100% shift and Elon, but

[02:56] Elon is just one of many uh who many of

[02:59] whom you know well who now think of

[03:01] themselves as being part of team Trump

[03:03] and and more Republican, more

[03:04] conservative. And that group of

[03:06] Democrats says, well, is this an opening

[03:08] uh either explicitly with Elon, which I

[03:11] doubt it will be, or more generally, can

[03:14] we use this as an opportunity to to say

[03:16] where the where the disagreements are?

[03:18] Uh for instance, Elon seems very

[03:20] concerned all of a sudden or some Trump

[03:23] people would tell you about deficit

[03:24] reduction. Maybe uh this is an

[03:27] opportunity for the Democrats to to glom

[03:29] onto that and become the deficit

[03:30] reduction party. I don't know that that

[03:32] second group more thoughtful group has

[03:34] made any headway and if there is a

[03:37] reproach m with the president Elon Musk

[03:39] of course that will undermine those

[03:40] efforts but that is the smaller group

[03:42] but it's at least a group that's

[03:44] thinking straight. I made a prediction

[03:47] the day that all this happened and I was

[03:48] mocked. I said before Christmas, Elon

[03:51] Musk will be at Mara Lago with two

[03:53] scoops of ice cream next to President

[03:56] Donald Trump on the patio and all will

[03:59] be right in the world. And people said,

[04:00] "No way." I said, "Just I think I know

[04:02] these two guys." I said, "And even a

[04:04] week from now, it's going to be a little

[04:06] bit simmerred down." And looks like um

[04:09] looks like that prediction might be

[04:10] right. We'll see what happens. It could

[04:11] it might be as early as July 4th in

[04:13] Bedminster. We'll see. I'll just I'll

[04:15] I'll just say I think Elon's going to

[04:16] have to pony up some cash for the

[04:18] midterms in order to to make this fully

[04:20] right, which he might have done anyway.

[04:22] I'll just say I thought they'd stay

[04:24] together longer and there's really

[04:27] nothing in it for Elon Mus to be at war

[04:29] with the president. There's lots of

[04:30] negatives to it, but there's nothing

[04:32] positive about it. And so I think you're

[04:34] right that this is kind of some sort of

[04:36] reproach was inexraable. And Donald

[04:39] Trump, contrary to what people think

[04:40] about him, is the ultimate forgiver. He

[04:42] just he just is happy to move on if he

[04:44] thinks it's in his interest and it's his

[04:46] interest to have reproach as