Charlie Kirk Clashes With Student Pushing 'Free Love'

[00:00] yes sir you were talking about like

[00:01] premarital sex and things like that

[00:03] which I feel like is a great concept

[00:05] yeah but the question is do you think

[00:07] men and women both having high body

[00:09] counts like is is the same thing

[00:13] um no I they're both bad but they're

[00:16] they're men deal with different sexual

[00:19] Temptation than women it's much easier

[00:21] for a woman to say no to sex than men a

[00:24] man much easier so which one do you

[00:26] think is worse is tell you mean by what

[00:29] worse for them it's actually worse for

[00:30] the female psychologically right worse

[00:33] like like worse from an outside judgment

[00:36] standpoint I mean it it's it's probably

[00:38] a tie I mean but they they're they're

[00:40] worse for bad for different reasons so

[00:43] the man has a much harder time

[00:45] restraining sexual impulse than a female

[00:47] right but but it's it's also a fact that

[00:50] when a woman has a high body count they

[00:52] become less desirable in the eyes of a

[00:53] man I don't I don't know if that's a

[00:55] that's not a good thing or a bad thing

[00:56] it's just reality right so on the

[00:58] contrary to that if if a man is a virgin

[01:01] especially in the generation we live in

[01:03] yes why are we not like if you're if if

[01:06] you're a virgin are you going to be

[01:08] respected as a man I

[01:10] was I I'm right but I was a virgin till

[01:13] I got married right but think about the

[01:14] majority I had a pretty good life and

[01:16] good career like career career yes but

[01:18] also why are you sharing your sexual

[01:20] behavior with people like that's weird

[01:22] like why is it their business that

[01:23] you're a virgin or not like that's

[01:25] that's like who cares I agree with you I

[01:27] agree with is the argument that you have

[01:29] sex because you might be like called a

[01:31] virgin like yeah I don't have STDs go to

[01:33] hell like okay no I I again I I

[01:35] completely agree with you but the but

[01:37] like the fact is I hear the social

[01:39] pressure argument like the social

[01:40] pressure is it's like if a man is a

[01:42] virgin in especially in this dating

[01:44] market right like yeah I think that's

[01:47] unbelievably attractive to

[01:48] women I disagree my wife's pretty

[01:52] beautiful right right like she's pretty

[01:55] desirable right would you guys agree

[01:57] yeah Erica is pretty beautiful I I'll

[01:59] just tell you that if a man or a woman

[02:01] remains a virgin you become insanely

[02:04] attractive in a time when everyone else

[02:06] has been

[02:08] shared it's not easy I understand that

[02:11] we live in a hypersexualized culture I'm

[02:12] not even shaming people I know it's

[02:15] difficult but if you commit yourself to

[02:16] it you should be you should be

[02:18] platformed as a desirable you know way

[02:21] to live and I again I'm not here to

[02:24] humiliate everyone struggles and

[02:25] everyone has uh maybe today though if

[02:27] you could rededicate yourself to that

[02:29] way of life it's a beautiful

[02:31] thing but okay so then again does the

[02:34] innocence of being a virgin as a man

[02:36] yeah like lower his masculinity no it

[02:40] actually increases his

[02:42] masculinity actually yeah if you if you

[02:45] remain a virgin that means that you have

[02:46] so much self-control over your animal

[02:48] instincts that you're like the most

[02:50] badass man it's easy not to be a virgin

[02:53] it's hard to be a virgin masculinity is

[02:56] doing the hard stuff not the easy stuff

[02:59] like I zero respect for a 17y oldold

[03:01] it's like bro I have all this sex with

[03:02] people like yeah you're nothing more

[03:03] than a rabbit yeah like good for you

[03:06] again like control yourself again but it

[03:08] it does it doesn't it also come down to

[03:10] if innocence raises femininity and makes

[03:13] a woman more attractive wouldn't it do

[03:14] the opposite for a no I'm saying it

[03:16] actually makes the man more I think

[03:17] virginity makes both sexes more

[03:19] attractive I'm not arguing for there's

[03:22] some people that are like men should

[03:24] have as much sex as they want and women

[03:25] shouldn't I think both should save

[03:27] themselves from marriage but it's a fact

[03:29] that and it's not a good fact that if

[03:31] women do have a high body count men do

[03:33] not find that to be attractive right

[03:35] that that's a fact I completely agree

[03:36] with you yeah and so I'm just I just

[03:38] don't agree fact I just don't agree with

[03:40] the opposite that's yeah I mean but I

[03:42] hear all the time from young women why

[03:44] can't I find a man well because you've

[03:46] been sleeping around for the last decade

[03:48] I hear from men why are there no good

[03:50] women well because the women are you

[03:51] know pseudo prostitutes most of them you

[03:54] know in the

[03:55] area yeah no again you say Charlie

[03:58] that's not fair what is only fans it's

[04:00] online

[04:02] prostitution how many how many of you

[04:03] guys know girls that have only fans

[04:05] accounts all of you so you all know

[04:07] hookers it's what it

[04:11] is how pay for ASU welome to ASU but

[04:17] what I was going to ask we all got

[04:19] friends who probably like sleep around

[04:21] yeah and I'm not trying to shame anyone

[04:22] that does that I'm trying to challenge

[04:24] you to be better I want to be very clear

[04:25] do you think that's a lost

[04:26] cause anyone can change at any time I

[04:29] would ch look if someone who's sleeping

[04:31] around all the time deep down they

[04:32] probably are mentally tormented if

[04:34] they're a man I guarantee they're going

[04:35] to be accused of rape at any time by

[04:37] some girl that wakes up and has a

[04:39] different version of events and in

[04:41] today's life that could destroy your

[04:43] life right you could have an STD and or

[04:46] like you have just cheapened the sacred

[04:48] the holy right you have something holy

[04:51] why share it with like every random

[04:53] person at

[04:54] ASU right save it for your soul partner

[04:58] save it for the person you want want to

[04:59] send for the rest of your life not easy

[05:02] but the fulfilling life is for those

[05:04] people that do hard stuff not easy stuff

[05:08] both are hard you have to choose your

[05:09] difficulty yes it's a difficult path to

[05:11] say no to hookup culture it's a

[05:13] difficult path I get it but it's it's

[05:15] also insanely fulfilling how do you get

[05:18] friends to see like sex as more sacred I

[05:21] feel like it's hard I mean it's just

[05:22] they look at it through a highly

[05:24] pornified sexualized

[05:28] lens

[05:30] yeah even so with the hookup culture

[05:32] thing like I think that's a great point

[05:34] I mean it's uh it's very unrealistic

[05:37] especially in the generation we were in

[05:39] today it might be unrealistic yeah right

[05:41] so but even if right you don't just date

[05:43] a girl to marry her right you got you

[05:45] should right okay okay the reason that's

[05:47] that's where I'm like we got everything

[05:49] messed up and I know it's hard but yeah

[05:51] I mean you don't want to you don't want

[05:51] to commit to to anything like too

[05:54] seriously before you you know completely

[05:55] know the girl first correct well yeah

[05:57] but you shouldn't even date without the

[05:58] intention to Mar

[06:01] da dating is not recreational it's not

[06:04] for sex it should be with the intent to

[06:06] find a soul me what else would you

[06:09] date yeah you're just spending money on

[06:11] her to them before yeah I mean but it's

[06:15] like study for an exam that doesn't

[06:17] right but for me personally if I'm going

[06:18] to if I'm no no listen listen if I'm if

[06:21] I'm dating a girl right I would want to

[06:23] like I would want to be in a

[06:24] relationship with her for at least 3

[06:26] years before before marrying her because

[06:28] you would you would need to understand

[06:29] compatibility between you do have the

[06:31] intent to 100% okay that's fine yeah but

[06:34] I mean then therefore you shouldn't even

[06:35] go on the first date without in your

[06:36] head I'm looking for Flags or things

[06:39] that and then for example if you say to

[06:42] myself I will never marry someone of the

[06:45] another religion perfectly respectable

[06:47] thing for any religion right and you

[06:49] happen to be dating somebody of a

[06:50] different religion just for the sex and

[06:52] the companionship that's I think immoral

[06:55] you're leading her on you're leading

[06:56] yourself on the whole thing is scre does

[06:58] that make sense yeah it's like a

[07:00] placeholder the whole thing screwed up

[07:01] so dating to intent to marry I think is

[07:03] a good virtue but also at the same time

[07:05] if you don't want to commit to marriage

[07:06] too quickly in a relationship isn't

[07:08] intimacy a big part of a relationship so

[07:10] why would you save yourself yourself for

[07:12] marriage you should save yourself for

[07:13] marriage uh that's a great question even

[07:15] in a committed relationship 100% yes yes

[07:18] without a doubt because the sacred

[07:20] should only be shared with the person

[07:22] when the vows are shared in my in the

[07:24] ideal I know that's unrealistic okay but

[07:27] I it's hard for a generation that's so

[07:29] sexualized to get this but to describe

[07:32] how awesome it is to not have to worry

[07:34] that your partner had to share that with

[07:36] somebody else and you didn't have to

[07:38] share it that's not on it it can happen

[07:41] because your grandfather's generation

[07:43] and great-grandfather's generation lived

[07:45] that and they lived happier and Better

[07:46] Lives it it can be done right where

[07:49] you're both not wondering am I living up

[07:51] to a previous partner you know am I

[07:54] thinking about a different

[07:56] partner that it and by the way with

[07:58] women in in in particular the studies

[08:00] show there is um it's there's there's a

[08:03] chemical there's an attachment that

[08:05] young ladies have as soon as they have

[08:08] they they have sex with somebody and it

[08:09] it's very hard for young women to

[08:12] overcome that right right and that's

[08:14] where you sometimes get like

[08:15] ex-girlfriend syndrome it's honestly

[08:17] understandable like biologically they're

[08:20] not wired to have 15 Partners right men

[08:24] on the other hand have a much easier

[08:26] time moving on from one partner to the

[08:28] other but they restrain their animal

[08:30] impulse yeah I I I just think it comes

[08:32] down to the time period at the end no

[08:34] but we should we should speak out

[08:36] against but we should say okay just

[08:39] because it's hard doesn't mean we

[08:41] shouldn't set the standard it's possible

[08:44] right yeah there's pressure yeah there's

[08:47] external stuff and there's evidence to

[08:48] show that we can move public opinion

[08:51] I'll I'll prove it to you okay

[08:53] so how many of you guys know people that

[08:56] smoke tobacco regularly how many of your

[08:59] friends would you say a majority or a

[09:01] minority majority a majority smoke

[09:04] tobacco like cigarettes yeah minority

[09:07] minority minority that's surprising okay

[09:10] well my point would have been I I'm not

[09:13] even talking about vaping or marijuana

[09:14] that's a separate issue but if you would

[09:16] have went to a college campus in the 70s

[09:19] I would have saw a lot of kids with

[09:20] cigarettes I don't see that very often

[09:22] maybe you guys are going to tell me

[09:24] wrong we moved public opinion on

[09:26] cigarettes now unfortunately we now

[09:28] replaced it with other

[09:29] but you can get people to change

[09:31] behaviors is what I'm saying Sometimes

[09:33] good sometimes bad and we should try to

[09:35] challenge young

[09:36] men to not have sex with everything that

[09:40] moves yeah again that that goes down to

[09:42] hookup culture but I I think at the end

[09:44] of the day it's like if I'm in a

[09:46] committed relationship with a girl

[09:47] that's a better moral standard you're

[09:49] right right better moral standard I

[09:50] agree but it's not the

[09:52] ideal say the ideal is marriage of

[09:54] course it is yes and I think we all need

[09:55] to acknowledge that that there is an

[09:57] ideal it's not possible but it's very

[10:01] difficult right and again I will go back

[10:04] to the approach you you took that sex

[10:06] and ethics course you mentioned

[10:07] previously which is you don't you need

[10:11] to eat to survive you need to drink to

[10:14] survive you do not need to have sex to

[10:16] survive you

[10:17] don't it's you're tempted towards it

[10:20] you're drawn towards it but you will not

[10:22] die right and so I actually think it

[10:26] creates stronger men and women with a

[10:29] better ability to find their place in

[10:30] the world less Depression more purpose

[10:33] and by the way all the studies show this

[10:34] that couples that save themselves for

[10:36] marriage they have like far less rates

[10:38] of alcoholism far less rates of domestic

[10:41] abuse and it could be a sampling error

[10:44] because you're like oh it's not fair

[10:44] because those are the people that

[10:45] actually have more disciplined lives or

[10:47] maybe did they develop discipline by

[10:49] saying no to the thing that they were

[10:50] most tempted to

[10:57] do

yes sir you were talking about like premarital sex and things like that which I feel like is a great concept yeah but the question is do you think men and women both having high body counts like is is the same thing um no I they're both bad but they're they're men deal with different sexual Temptation than women it's much easier for a woman to say no to sex than men a man much easier so which one do you think is worse is tell you mean by what worse for them it's actually worse for the female psychologically right worse like like worse from an outside judgment standpoint I mean it it's it's probably a tie I mean but they they're they're worse for bad for different reasons so the man has a much harder time restraining sexual impulse than a female right but but it's it's also a fact that when a woman has a high body count they become less desirable in the eyes of a man I don't I don't know if that's a that's not a good thing or a bad thing it's just reality right so on the contrary to that if if a man is a virgin especially in the generation we live in yes why are we not like if you're if if you're a virgin are you going to be respected as a man I was I I'm right but I was a virgin till I got married right but think about the majority I had a pretty good life and good career like career career yes but also why are you sharing your sexual behavior with people like that's weird like why is it their business that you're a virgin or not like that's that's like who cares I agree with you I agree with is the argument that you have sex because you might be like called a virgin like yeah I don't have STDs go to hell like okay no I I again I I completely agree with you but the but like the fact is I hear the social pressure argument like the social pressure is it's like if a man is a virgin in especially in this dating market right like yeah I think that's unbelievably attractive to women I disagree my wife's pretty beautiful right right like she's pretty desirable right would you guys agree yeah Erica is pretty beautiful I I'll just tell you that if a man or a woman remains a virgin you become insanely attractive in a time when everyone else has been shared it's not easy I understand that we live in a hypersexualized culture I'm not even shaming people I know it's difficult but if you commit yourself to it you should be you should be platformed as a desirable you know way to live and I again I'm not here to humiliate everyone struggles and everyone has uh maybe today though if you could rededicate yourself to that way of life it's a beautiful thing but okay so then again does the innocence of being a virgin as a man yeah like lower his masculinity no it actually increases his masculinity actually yeah if you if you remain a virgin that means that you have so much self-control over your animal instincts that you're like the most badass man it's easy not to be a virgin it's hard to be a virgin masculinity is doing the hard stuff not the easy stuff like I zero respect for a 17y oldold it's like bro I have all this sex with people like yeah you're nothing more than a rabbit yeah like good for you again like control yourself again but it it does it doesn't it also come down to if innocence raises femininity and makes a woman more attractive wouldn't it do the opposite for a no I'm saying it actually makes the man more I think virginity makes both sexes more attractive I'm not arguing for there's some people that are like men should have as much sex as they want and women shouldn't I think both should save themselves from marriage but it's a fact that and it's not a good fact that if women do have a high body count men do not find that to be attractive right that that's a fact I completely agree with you yeah and so I'm just I just don't agree fact I just don't agree with the opposite that's yeah I mean but I hear all the time from young women why can't I find a man well because you've been sleeping around for the last decade I hear from men why are there no good women well because the women are you know pseudo prostitutes most of them you know in the area yeah no again you say Charlie that's not fair what is only fans it's online prostitution how many how many of you guys know girls that have only fans accounts all of you so you all know hookers it's what it is how pay for ASU welome to ASU but what I was going to ask we all got friends who probably like sleep around yeah and I'm not trying to shame anyone that does that I'm trying to challenge you to be better I want to be very clear do you think that's a lost cause anyone can change at any time I would ch look if someone who's sleeping around all the time deep down they probably are mentally tormented if they're a man I guarantee they're going to be accused of rape at any time by some girl that wakes up and has a different version of events and in today's life that could destroy your life right you could have an STD and or like you have just cheapened the sacred the holy right you have something holy why share it with like every random person at ASU right save it for your soul partner save it for the person you want want to send for the rest of your life not easy but the fulfilling life is for those people that do hard stuff not easy stuff both are hard you have to choose your difficulty yes it's a difficult path to say no to hookup culture it's a difficult path I get it but it's it's also insanely fulfilling how do you get friends to see like sex as more sacred I feel like it's hard I mean it's just they look at it through a highly pornified sexualized lens yeah even so with the hookup culture thing like I think that's a great point I mean it's uh it's very unrealistic especially in the generation we were in today it might be unrealistic yeah right so but even if right you don't just date a girl to marry her right you got you should right okay okay the reason that's that's where I'm like we got everything messed up and I know it's hard but yeah I mean you don't want to you don't want to commit to to anything like too seriously before you you know completely know the girl first correct well yeah but you shouldn't even date without the intention to Mar da dating is not recreational it's not for sex it should be with the intent to find a soul me what else would you date yeah you're just spending money on her to them before yeah I mean but it's like study for an exam that doesn't right but for me personally if I'm going to if I'm no no listen listen if I'm if I'm dating a girl right I would want to like I would want to be in a relationship with her for at least 3 years before before marrying her because you would you would need to understand compatibility between you do have the intent to 100% okay that's fine yeah but I mean then therefore you shouldn't even go on the first date without in your head I'm looking for Flags or things that and then for example if you say to myself I will never marry someone of the another religion perfectly respectable thing for any religion right and you happen to be dating somebody of a different religion just for the sex and the companionship that's I think immoral you're leading her on you're leading yourself on the whole thing is scre does that make sense yeah it's like a placeholder the whole thing screwed up so dating to intent to marry I think is a good virtue but also at the same time if you don't want to commit to marriage too quickly in a relationship isn't intimacy a big part of a relationship so why would you save yourself yourself for marriage you should save yourself for marriage uh that's a great question even in a committed relationship 100% yes yes without a doubt because the sacred should only be shared with the person when the vows are shared in my in the ideal I know that's unrealistic okay but I it's hard for a generation that's so sexualized to get this but to describe how awesome it is to not have to worry that your partner had to share that with somebody else and you didn't have to share it that's not on it it can happen because your grandfather's generation and great-grandfather's generation lived that and they lived happier and Better Lives it it can be done right where you're both not wondering am I living up to a previous partner you know am I thinking about a different partner that it and by the way with women in in in particular the studies show there is um it's there's there's a chemical there's an attachment that young ladies have as soon as they have they they have sex with somebody and it it's very hard for young women to overcome that right right and that's where you sometimes get like ex-girlfriend syndrome it's honestly understandable like biologically they're not wired to have 15 Partners right men on the other hand have a much easier time moving on from one partner to the other but they restrain their animal impulse yeah I I I just think it comes down to the time period at the end no but we should we should speak out against but we should say okay just because it's hard doesn't mean we shouldn't set the standard it's possible right yeah there's pressure yeah there's external stuff and there's evidence to show that we can move public opinion I'll I'll prove it to you okay so how many of you guys know people that smoke tobacco regularly how many of your friends would you say a majority or a minority majority a majority smoke tobacco like cigarettes yeah minority minority minority that's surprising okay well my point would have been I I'm not even talking about vaping or marijuana that's a separate issue but if you would have went to a college campus in the 70s I would have saw a lot of kids with cigarettes I don't see that very often maybe you guys are going to tell me wrong we moved public opinion on cigarettes now unfortunately we now replaced it with other but you can get people to change behaviors is what I'm saying Sometimes good sometimes bad and we should try to challenge young men to not have sex with everything that moves yeah again that that goes down to hookup culture but I I think at the end of the day it's like if I'm in a committed relationship with a girl that's a better moral standard you're right right better moral standard I agree but it's not the ideal say the ideal is marriage of course it is yes and I think we all need to acknowledge that that there is an ideal it's not possible but it's very difficult right and again I will go back to the approach you you took that sex and ethics course you mentioned previously which is you don't you need to eat to survive you need to drink to survive you do not need to have sex to survive you don't it's you're tempted towards it you're drawn towards it but you will not die right and so I actually think it creates stronger men and women with a better ability to find their place in the world less Depression more purpose and by the way all the studies show this that couples that save themselves for marriage they have like far less rates of alcoholism far less rates of domestic abuse and it could be a sampling error because you're like oh it's not fair because those are the people that actually have more disciplined lives or maybe did they develop discipline by saying no to the thing that they were most tempted to do