Charlie Kirk on Why Big Corporations Push Minimum Wage Hikes to Crush Mom and Pop Competitors

[00:00] is all for the show we've got david back

[00:03] with us sabrina charlie

[00:04] um charlie the whole goal here is to

[00:08] kind of shame others into hiking their

[00:10] minimum wage as well will it happen

[00:13] uh i don't know but there's an

[00:15] interesting second part of this that

[00:16] i'll point out is that these bigger

[00:18] corporations like panera bread or

[00:19] mcdonald's

[00:20] that are coming out in favor of a higher

[00:22] minimum wage we have to realize that

[00:24] it's not necessarily the worst

[00:25] additional cost for these bigger

[00:27] corporations

[00:27] so for a small mom and pop store on main

[00:30] street a

[00:30] minimum wage hike in a public policy

[00:32] sense would really negatively harm them

[00:34] so what do you think these companies are

[00:36] trying to do

[00:36] is they're trying to get ahead of the

[00:38] curve get anticipate it so when there is

[00:40] a minimum wage hike in congress

[00:42] they're already there and mom and pop go

[00:44] out of business so it's their way of

[00:45] crowding up competition

[00:47] too young to be that jaded but um well

[00:49] thank you that's very clever i didn't

[00:51] think of that but sabrina he is right to

[00:53] say that

[00:53] there is a big difference between a

[00:55] large retail like a gap or ikea

[00:57] um you know hiking their minimum wage

[00:59] and a mom and pop shop right

[01:00] of course and not only might it put the

[01:02] mom and pop shop out of business but at

[01:04] the same time a place like mcdonald's

[01:05] might be introducing an app to replace

[01:07] the job altogether so they can say

[01:09] you know what raise the minimum wage we

[01:10] don't even need people we need an app to

[01:12] do this

[01:12] to the the cashier and to exchange to

[01:15] exchange money and let's also be careful

[01:17] i mean companies like the gap it's great

[01:18] to feel sort of high and mighty that

[01:20] you're able to raise the minimum wage

[01:21] but just a couple of months ago that

[01:23] they were under intense scrutiny for

[01:25] their sweat shops overseas so

[01:26] none of these companies are quite so

[01:28] perfect right

[01:30] do you notice the young people but they

[01:31] have a very nasty time what i notice is

[01:33] there's something somebody has something

[01:35] against ikea here first of all i like

[01:37] their swedish meatballs

[01:38] horse meat or no really well just talk

[01:40] to mr red secondly i would have had a

[01:42] stick of furniture if it hadn't been for

[01:44] ikea back when i was in my 30s many many

[01:46] years ago

[01:47] but it and thirdly this is better than

[01:50] obama's one size fits all plan

[01:52] his thirty nine percent right david

[01:55] don't you see what's going on if they

[01:57] decide that they can squeeze their

[01:58] profit margin to the point where they

[02:00] can

[02:01] they can pay their workers a little more

[02:03] money you're encouraging them to serve

[02:04] more cheap

[02:05] more swedish meat with that bring on the

[02:08] horseman

[02:09] i liked it the last time i had it okay

[02:11] well it does it tastes like chicken

[02:12] uh all right well charlie bottom line

[02:15] you're going to see more townsend isn't

[02:16] paladi's doing this seattle looking at a

[02:17] 15

[02:18] minute wage pushing it pushing it

[02:20] there's a district in california but

[02:21] that's government neil

[02:23] i'm joining them all together to link

[02:25] this idea where

[02:26] we are going to be grateful if the

[02:28] minimum wage ends up just being 10 10 an

[02:30] hour

[02:31] and that's where this is going what do

[02:32] you think charlie yeah absolutely and i

[02:35] think that when you're seeing these

[02:36] companies try to set this precedent

[02:38] i think sabrina is exactly right you're

[02:40] seeing the advance mechanization of

[02:42] labor so sure

[02:43] 15 an hour for the now five employees

[02:46] that will work at a gap store instead of

[02:47] the 15 that we're working

[02:49] because then they have automated

[02:50] checkout and they'll have machines fold

[02:52] all the clothes

[02:53] and they'll have you know all these

[02:54] different ways to mechanize their labor

[02:55] so sure

[02:56] 15 an hour sound really good but guess

[02:58] what neil now there's going to be a

[02:59] machine making your horse

[03:01] swedish meatballs not a going to tell

[03:03] you you know and i just want to touch it

[03:05] so and of course he's going to be

[03:07] hurting the most

[03:08] sorry absolutely so the advancement

[03:10] mechanization is

[03:12] is going to raise minimum wage right and

[03:13] the people who are going to hurt the

[03:14] most are the people who charlie's

[03:15] interested in right those

[03:17] lower skilled younger younger employees

[03:19] who are trying to break into the job

[03:21] market

[03:21] women women are definitely going to be

[03:23] at a disadvantage many of whom are

[03:24] part-time workers those jobs are going

[03:26] to be gone first

[03:27] so of course i mean the bottom line and

[03:28] what ikea like the gap but others are

[03:30] just ignoring

[03:31] is that when you increase the minimum

[03:33] wage it increases the cost of hiring and

[03:35] that is bad

[03:35] when it's mandated but hold on sabrina

[03:37] that's only when it's mandated by the

[03:39] government if they make up their mind

[03:41] that it's good business

[03:42] to pay their workers more then they'll

[03:44] be in business if it's bad business

[03:46] they'll be out of business swedish

[03:47] meatballs are not no i agree that's fine

[03:50] it's just that if they're doing it to

[03:51] sort of set the precedent

[03:52] and put pressure on businesses that

[03:54] can't afford it and that's going to be a

[03:56] net loss for workers

[03:57] wait until your kids are old enough to

[03:59] make the minimum wage i i my kid

[04:01] is and she is making minimum wage i'm

[04:03] kind of glad when they find a way to

[04:05] increase the wage well when you get

[04:06] really like my daughter just retired

[04:08] that's how it's right

[04:09] now guys i want to switch gears it's a

[04:11] little goofy but i've been following it

[04:12] all you know this soccer thing world cup

[04:14] is big big big

[04:15] apparently it's huge but here's what's

[04:17] outrageous and maybe

[04:18] it surprised me the off the chart

[04:20] ratings and attention this is getting

[04:23] uh all over the world but especially our

[04:26] country

[04:26] and a lot of the locks and sponsorship

[04:28] deals and a lot of the attention to this

[04:30] um charlie what's going on here i'm

[04:34] loving watching it personally there's a

[04:35] certain romanticism this year

[04:37] to the world cup we were super underdogs

[04:39] our best player

[04:41] supposedly landon donovan didn't make

[04:43] the team but yet we're the huge

[04:44] underdogs we overcome in a true yeah but

[04:46] it could have

[04:47] made sense the argument was sabrina it

[04:49] couldn't be that big here because they

[04:51] don't stop it's nonstop

[04:52] furthermore it takes a you know it takes

[04:55] a long time to

[04:56] get get to a goal or whatever didn't we

[04:58] find that with germany but my point was

[05:00] i don't even understand how we're still

[05:01] in the damn thing when we lose it's okay

[05:03] we're still in that's fine

[05:05] but but is the education process part of

[05:07] it what's what's behind it

[05:09] clicking i think part of it is that

[05:11] there's big you know groups that ayso i

[05:13] grew up with

[05:14] ayso every saturday morning every kid in

[05:16] southern california was playing soccer

[05:18] and now they're grown up and they like

[05:20] watching it i take my own kids to soccer

[05:22] games

[05:22] they're interested in watching it so i

[05:24] think we've had sort of this um

[05:25] you know it's it's continuous it's grown

[05:27] here so maybe it's replacing football

[05:29] replacing basically

[05:30] i don't like it i'm bored by it i don't

[05:33] care if we win i'm with you neil when we

[05:34] lose they're still cheering about it

[05:36] i don't understand it i don't get it

[05:39] and they changed the illusions we were

[05:41] winning until the refs came

[05:43] and said okay give the other team five

[05:44] extra don't even get me started

[05:47] there's a lot of drama the biting and

[05:49] falling down

[05:50] where's savannah holyfield like give

[05:52] matinee a soccer outfit

[05:54] all right well we roared and now