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Charlie Kirk is the Founder and President of Turning Point USA, the largest and fastest growing conservative youth activist organization in the country with over 250,000 student members, over 150 full-time staff, and a presence on over 2,000 high school and college campuses nationwide. Charlie is also the Chairman of Students for Trump, which aims to activate one million new college voters on campuses in battleground states in the lead up to the 2020 presidential election. His social media reaches over 100 million people per month and according to�Axios, he is one of the "top 10 most engaged" Twitter handles in the world. He is also the host of �The Charlie Kirk Show,� which regularly ranks among the top news shows on Apple podcast charts.

January 6th Questions

"Hello, my name is Dominic. Mr. Kirk, it's lovely to have this conversation with you. In the interest of time, I have three questions for you, and it has to do with January 6th."

"The first question is: do you acknowledge or believe that Trump incited violence?"

"No."

"Do you acknowledge that Trump waited 187 minutes before he said anything to the protesters to go home?"

"That's debated."

"Because remember, the instructions he gave were to 'peacefully and patriotically march.'"

"Sure, but he also said to the protesters - the speech, I think it was at the Oval or I can't remember what it was specifically, but he also said 'make your voice heard' is what he said."

"But he also said to 'fight like hell, you're going to lose your country.'"

"Time out - Kamala Harris's phrase right now is 'when we fight, we win.' So 'fight' is an open-ended term. Do we agree with that?"

"Sure, yeah."

"Kamala Harris literally at the DNC had a big thing that said 'when we fight, we win.' So telling somebody to fight, we shouldn't... that's a little bit nitpicky, right?"

"Sure, yeah. I would say they're different contextually, but..."

"You can't emphasize that word. What was your third question?"

"Do you acknowledge that many of Trump's staffers, including Donald Trump Jr., were begging him during those three hours to stop, call off the protest, or stop the riot?"

"I don't know. That's going to... I don't think so, though."

"All right, well thank you. Thank you very much. Appreciate it."

Addressing Socioeconomic Disparities: The Fatherhood Factor

"Thank you Mr. Kirk. Thank you. First, I'll start with the fact that I don't agree with affirmative action. I agree it's kind of wrong."

"Try to talk right into the mic."

"I have a question about the underlying issues that the other girl mentioned, the socioeconomic statuses of different people from different groups. I just wanted to ask you why you think that issue, that underlying issue, is still a problem in America and how we should solve it."

"Biggest issue is lack of fathers, and no one wants to talk about it. So let's take the black community - 75% of black youth will grow up without a father around. And we have spent trillions, tens of trillions of dollars on social welfare programs. It's not a matter of stuff. It's not a matter of having access to care from welfare to housing, Urban Development, to Medicaid. We've spent more money on the Great Society project than ever."

"It's a matter of values, and if you do not have a strong father around imparting those values, saying 'no,' and teaching discipline, especially to young men, then you're going to have a major cycle of violence and poverty and despair. And so that's what makes us, as conservatives, different than liberals. They think it's a material problem. They think, 'Oh, just give more stuff and you're going to break out of poverty.'"

"We've tried that since the 1960s Great Society. We spent $25 trillion trying to eradicate poverty, and we have more poverty than before we started. It's because we subsidized single motherhood, and dads aren't around. It's a major problem."

"Is there like a proven correlation to that, like statistical record?"

"Yeah, absolutely. I mean, well, first of all, it's rather common sense, right? It's rather self-evident that if you don't have two parents around. But every major study shows—the Brookings Institution is the best that's done this—which shows that if you have a mother and a father around, stable, you are far less likely to go to jail, more likely to graduate from high school, have a higher wage—every possible outcome that would be considered to be desirable."

Gay Conservatives: Identity and Politics

"I'm a gay conservative, and I just want to kind of ask you, like, what do you have to say for people like me who kind of feel... I guess it's kind of hard for gay conservatives because there's not a lot of us. So like, what do you have to say to other gay people who need to realize, like, they do have a choice?"

"First of all, welcome to the conservative movement. But I want to be clear—I don't agree with your lifestyle, and I don't think you should introduce yourself just based on your sexual attraction. That's not who you are. I like to be thought of as a person."

"For sure, I'm not..."

"I think you're actually way more interesting based on things other than your sexual tendencies, right? So I think we should get away from this idea that your identity is based on your bedroom behavior. You are a complete human being, and I'm sure you treat people well, and you're studying something."

"So I want to get away with this idea that you're 'gay' anything. First, you should say 'I'm a conservative, I also have same-sex attraction.' That's fine. I just think that we have gone a long way in the negative direction in this country where we act as if the most important part of your identity is what you do in the bedroom. It doesn't mean that much to me."

"But if you ask from a perspective as a Christian and conservative, I don't agree with that lifestyle. But politics is about addition and multiplication. I imagine you agree with a lot of what we talk about, right? Strong borders, strong country. And for that, you know, we welcome you into the conservative movement."

The Civil Rights Act: Intent vs. Implementation

"Hey Charlie, I'm talking. So I saw on a video the other day, a little kid came up to you and he said, 'Oh, I heard you said that the Civil Rights bill should...' And I was just kind of wondering... and then you said, 'No, I said it was a mistake.' I was just kind of wondering if you could maybe... taken out of context or maybe..."

"No, I just didn't want to debate a 12-year-old of the DNC. Honestly, it was the time. Like, he was 12 and he was super sweet and super nice. Like, I'm not going to debate you. Like Michael Knowles ended up debating him—it was a disaster."

"So, look, very clear: of course we needed to end evil segregation. The way we did it was with a wide-ranging, over-the-top bill called the Civil Rights Act that has now created the prerequisite of what we now call 'woke.' And so, for example, the Civil Rights Act is now being used to shut down people's businesses if they have a certain belief on one-man-one-woman marriage, saying that that is discrimination under the Civil Rights Act."

"So, of course, my perspective is it should be illegal to actively discriminate against somebody based on their skin color. That's not what the Civil Rights Act only did, though. That's one portion of the Civil Rights Act. There's nine or 10 components that people don't even recognize or realize that effectively created this massive 'anti-racist'—'anti-racist' is the term the left uses—monstrosity that is now being used for things that it was never intended for, including affirmative action."

"And what's, like, can you name maybe a few specific cases where people have cited...?"

"Great question. So Merrick Garland, recently, the Attorney General of the United States, recently said that North Carolina and Georgia cannot have voter ID laws—so asking somebody to provide identification when they vote—because it's a violation of the Civil Rights Act, because they say that it disproportionately impacts black Americans."

"So the issue with the Civil Rights Act is not just the action of being racially segregating or of being racially insensitive or to somebody. It is the impact. So if it impacts a certain group, therefore it's also then called illegal under the Civil Rights Act. Does that make sense?"

"Yeah. So it most certainly wasn't a mistake though?"

"Well, of course it was a mistake, the way it was written. The intent was not, though."

"Okay, but at the time, of course, it was not a mistake."

"Yes, it was. The way that it was written..."

"What people have used it for now, maybe. Yes. But back then, it wasn't a mistake though."

"No, but you have to judge the law as it is now, right? So it's like saying, well, the law might have been good 20 years ago, okay, but..."

"So you did say, 'Oh, I'm against discrimination, but I don't think the Civil Rights bill should have been signed?'"

"One provision I think should have been passed."

"So one provision, but it should... you're saying it should have been whittled down, and it shouldn't have been this massive, overreaching monstrosity?"

"Okay, okay, thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it."

Healthcare: Beyond Cost to Root Causes

"First off, I'm a Republican voting for Trump, super excited about that, but there is obviously a huge issue in the country with healthcare prices. And I know Trump had the transparency executive order, but what do you think is the best way to lower costs for families?"

"This is huge. First of all, you just have to lower inflation more broadly. That's number one. Number two, you have to go after the hospital lobby, where the hospitals are gouging prices significantly. Number three, this is why I'm wearing the 'Make America Healthy' shirt—we have to try to get at the root cause, which is the food that we are feeding ourselves and our kids."

"We have to get to the fact that we are an increasingly sedentary country. We aren't walking enough, we're not exercising enough, and healthcare costs are exploding because we don't actually address the root cause 20 or 30 years prior."

"How do we take on those huge food companies?"

"The first thing is, we should have a real conversation about banning pesticides in when we're making our food. Ultra-processed food should not be on the FDA recommended food pyramid. This is why I love Bobby Kennedy coming and joining teams with Donald Trump, because it's his life mission to make America healthier."

"We have a chronic disease epidemic. Half of all America's kids are chronically obese or overweight. In Japan, it is 3%. It's not because our kids are lazier; it's because we are actively poisoning our kids with food from Big Ag that we're spraying with all these pesticides, these chemicals. And if you look at the ingredient list of just a Lunchables box, we are basically giving kids the worst thing possible for their metabolism, for their endocrinology."

"So I'm more interested in a healthcare conversation that tries to make sure that a 12-year-old doesn't have to get on Ozempic by the time they're 18 years old. And just so you know, they're giving pediatric Ozempic now for 12 and 13-year-olds. They're now treating obesity as a genetic disorder that you cannot do anything about, and they just want a 12-year-old to now have to take a shot every week to try to curb their obesity, which has all other sorts of very negative health implications."

"So how do we solve that?"

"Well, my personal crusade—we have to blow up the food pyramid that we have. Way too many carbohydrates in our diet, not enough healthy fats, and not enough protein. Whoever made that was obviously bought by the Big Ag companies. And you should just say, 'I'm not going to have any more high fructose corn syrup. I'm not going to have any more processed sugars. And if there are ingredients I can't pronounce, I should resist it.'"

"And in the ideal, we should have a government that promotes the question: 'Did God make it or did man make it?' Have more foods every day that God made, more so than what man made, and you'll be a lot healthier because of it."

Animal Rights and Free Markets

"Wearing on campus for a Republican party that prides itself on personal responsibility, protecting the sentient unborn, and free markets, I was curious about your thoughts on animal rights. Just because the government subsidizes animal agriculture far more than fruits and vegetables and plant foods, which inhibits the free market and ends up slaughtering lots of animals. And animals are also sentient beings, like the unborn, so I was curious about your thoughts on all of that."

"So the question is first: is an animal a human?"

"No."

"Okay, so does it therefore have rights? I mean, we already have rights for animals, for dogs, cats, and even for some..."

"But do you get First Amendment protections for your dog? Can your dog own a firearm?"

"No, no, of course not."

"So it's not the same thing as a human. Now, as a Christian, we're also not allowed to torture or to slaughter. That's in the Noahic Covenant and repeatedly throughout the Scriptures. We must be humane in our treatment of animals. But I don't know where you're coming from with this perspective, but some people would say that animals and humans are on the same moral plane. I don't think that's what you're saying, right?"

"However, there is a push, though, to say that we should no longer eat meat because it's bad for the life of animals. We should do what's best for human beings first and foremost, and it's good for human beings to eat meat. It's good for human beings to be able to eat animals. It's good for human beings to not just eat, like, this synthetic fake meat that Bill Gates wants to make all day long."

"And so, where do I stand on animal rights? I mean, I don't think any living being should be tortured or should be cruelly treated. At the same time, we should always do what's best for human beings and human beings first. So for example, when there's an environmental question, the question should first be: what is best for the human species? Not what's best for, you know, the trees or for the snake. Those things are important, but it's more important about humans. Does that answer your question, or in part, is it okay if I follow up?"

"I mean, in terms of what rights we give to animals, of course we wouldn't give animals the right to drive a car, vote, because it's not relevant to them. But the rights that would be relevant to them are basic negative rights—the right not to be tortured or killed. And we already have that for cats and dogs and even cruelty laws on farm animals."

"Well, we're allowed to kill dogs. That's not true. We have kill shelters for dogs, right? We also kill dogs that bite their owners and dogs with rabies. So if a human being gets rabies, what do we do?"

"We treat the human."

"If a dog gets rabies, unless there's like a miraculous treatment, which there usually isn't... So you're right, the negative rights. We do have rights, to be able to, for better or worse, because we do not treat dogs and cats as the same moral level because we, as human beings, have a soul. We have reason. We have the ability to make sense of the natural world. Dogs do not. Dogs only have senses. They do not have reason."

"And so, for example, a dog cannot tell that it's a dog. Now, there's some disagreement about that, but we as human beings can make sense in the natural world. We are the speaking beings to say differently. But no animal should be mistreated. But to say that animals are not allowed to be killed would be therefore an argument against meat, correct?"

"Right, yeah."

"And against hunting, right? That's very unpopular probably at, you know, Wisconsin-Madison, to get rid of bacon. Just guessing."

"Yeah. And I mean the reason I'm bringing this up ultimately is these animals that we kill on factory farms—we kill pigs in gas chambers, we grind up male chicks alive for the egg industry because only the female hens lay eggs, all these different things—is because we view animals as not having enough rights to actually protect their livelihood. I'm making an argument that we shouldn't obviously give animals rights that aren't relevant to them."

"If you were a dictator, would you say we cannot kill pigs?"

"No, I think that should be left up to the free market. The reason I'm concerned about it is the government is spending billions of dollars..."

"I think factory farming has a lot of problems, more because of the health of the human that eats the meat, less than about the animal, because it's just not as good for the human."

"Real quick, do you think ultimately that Republican party that is pro-free market should be propping up billions of dollars towards subsidies for...?"

"I'm not a huge subsidy fan of things that make people fat and unhealthy."

"So would you, if you were in a voting position, either if you were an elected leader, would you vote against, and should Republicans vote against that?"

"I'm not in a voting position, but yeah, I would advocate for—I advocate against most of our current agricultural subsidies, for sure."

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[00:00] hello hello uh my name is Dominic Mr

[00:02] Kirk it's lovely to have this

[00:04] conversation with you uh in the interest

[00:06] in the interest of time I have three

[00:07] questions for you and it has to do with

[00:09] January 6th okay so the first question

[00:12] is do you acknowledge or believe that

[00:15] Trump incited uh violence no no okay do

[00:19] you acknowledge that Trump waited 187

[00:22] minutes before he said anything to the

[00:24] protesters home that's debated yeah okay

[00:27] because remember the instructions he

[00:29] gave were to peaceful and patriotically

[00:30] March sure but he also said to the

[00:33] protesters uh the speech I think it was

[00:36] at the oval or I can't remember what it

[00:37] was specifically but he also said make

[00:39] your voice heard is what he said right

[00:40] but he also said to fight like hell

[00:41] you're going to lose your country right

[00:42] but I think we both agree time out kamla

[00:45] Harris's phrase right now is when we

[00:46] fight we win so fight is a open-ended

[00:49] term do we agree with that sure yeah

[00:51] okay KLA Harris litered the DNC had a

[00:52] big thing that said when we fight we win

[00:54] so telling somebody to fight we

[00:56] shouldn't that's a little bit Ticky Tech

[00:59] right

[01:00] sure yeah I would say they're different

[01:02] contextual but just you can't you can't

[01:04] emphasize that word but third third

[01:05] question on that you had third question

[01:07] um do you acknowledge that many of

[01:08] Trump's staffers uh including Donald

[01:10] Trump Jr were begging him during those

[01:12] three hours to stop call off the protest

[01:14] or stop the riot I don't know that

[01:15] that's that's going to come out I I

[01:17] don't think so though okay all right

[01:18] well thank you thank you very much

[01:20] appreciate it yes ma'am thank you yeah

[01:22] thank you yes yes okay do you mind if I

[01:26] film uh without a doubt all right all

[01:30] right all right um Camas everywhere so

[01:32] yeah it's a pleasure to meet you Mr Kirk

[01:33] would you sign this for me really quick

[01:35] okay great yes what is this is this a

[01:38] it's the poster from your booth oh is

[01:40] that right yeah

[01:41] yeah go ahead all right um okay sorry I

[01:47] signed G P's face all right thank you so

[01:49] much thank you

[01:50] so great I just have one question for

[01:53] you um would you mind answering um what

[01:54] is your thought on the new Minecraft

[01:56] movie

[01:58] trailer no idea what you're talking

[01:59] about thank you that's it thank you next

[02:02] question you're not even a good troll

[02:04] next question thank you Mr Kirk thank

[02:06] you first I'll start with the fact that

[02:08] I don't agree with affirmative action I

[02:10] agree it's kind of wrong try to talk

[02:12] right into the mic um so I have a

[02:16] question about the underlying issues

[02:17] that the other girl mentioned the um

[02:19] socioeconomic statuses of different

[02:21] people from different groups and I just

[02:24] wanted to ask you why you think that

[02:25] issue that underlying issue is still a

[02:28] problem in America and how we should

[02:29] solve it biggest issue is lack of

[02:30] fathers and no one wants to talk about

[02:32] it so let's take the black community 75%

[02:34] of black youth will grow up without a

[02:36] father

[02:37] around and that we have spent trillions

[02:39] tens of trillions of dollars on social

[02:41] welfare program it's not a matter of

[02:42] stuff it's not a matter of having access

[02:45] to care from welfare to housing Urban

[02:47] Development to Medicaid we have we've

[02:49] spent more money on the Great Society

[02:52] project than ever it's a matter of

[02:54] values and if you do not have a strong

[02:56] father around uh imparting those values

[02:58] saying no and teaching discipline

[03:00] especially to young men then uh you're

[03:02] going to have a major cycle of violence

[03:04] and poverty and despair and so that's

[03:06] what makes us diff us as conservatives

[03:08] different than liberals they think it's

[03:10] a material problem they think oh just

[03:11] give more stuff and you're going to

[03:12] break out of poverty we've tried that

[03:14] since the 1960s Great Society we spent

[03:16] $25 trillion try to eradicate poverty

[03:18] and we have more poverty than before we

[03:20] started it's because we subsidized

[03:22] single motherhood and dads aren't around

[03:24] it's a major problem is there like a

[03:26] proven correlation to that like

[03:27] statistical record yeah absolutely I

[03:29] mean well first of all it's it's rather

[03:31] common sense right it's rather

[03:33] self-evident that if you don't have two

[03:34] parents around but every major study

[03:36] shows the Brookings institution is the

[03:38] best that's done this which shows that

[03:40] if you have a mother and a father around

[03:42] stable you are far more like far less

[03:44] likely to go to jail graduate from high

[03:46] school have a higher wage every possible

[03:49] um outcome that would be uh considered

[03:51] to be uh desirable all right thank you

[03:54] can I lean for a selfie yes we're at of

[03:56] hats I think yes next question um so I'm

[04:00] a gay conservative and I just want to

[04:02] kind of ask you like what do you have to

[04:04] say for people like me who kind of feel

[04:06] like I guess it's kind of hard for gay

[04:10] conservatives because there's not a lot

[04:11] of us so like what do you have to say to

[04:12] other gay people who who need to realize

[04:14] like they do have a choice like yeah

[04:17] first of all welcome to the conservative

[04:18] movement but I want to be clear um I

[04:20] don't agree with your lifestyle and I

[04:21] don't think you should introduce

[04:22] yourself just based on your your sexual

[04:24] attraction I like that's not who you are

[04:26] I like to be thought of as a person and

[04:28] for sure I'm not I think you're actually

[04:30] way more interesting based on your your

[04:32] sexual Tendencies right so I think we

[04:34] should get away from this idea that your

[04:36] identity is based on your bedroom

[04:37] Behavior yes I you have a you you you

[04:40] are a complete human being and I'm sure

[04:41] you treat people well and you're

[04:43] studying something so I want to get away

[04:45] with this idea that you're gay anything

[04:48] right first you should say I'm a

[04:49] conservative I also have you know same

[04:51] seex attraction that's fine I just think

[04:52] that we have gone a long way in the

[04:54] negative direction of this country where

[04:55] we act as if the most important part of

[04:57] your identity is what you do in the

[05:00] bedroom it doesn't mean that much to me

[05:02] but if you ask from a perspective as a

[05:04] Christian and conservative I I I don't

[05:06] agree with that lifestyle but politics

[05:08] is about addition and multiplication I

[05:09] imagine you agree with a lot of what we

[05:11] talk about right strong borders strong

[05:13] country and for that you know we we

[05:15] welcome you into the conservative

[05:16] movement thank you could could I get a

[05:18] hat yes you can absolutely yes yes oh

[05:20] hey Charlie I'm talking yeah um so I saw

[05:24] on a video the other day so a little kid

[05:25] came up to you and he said oh I heard

[05:27] you said that the Civil Rights bill

[05:28] should and I was just kind of wondering

[05:30] and then you said no I said it was a

[05:32] mistake I was just kind of wondering if

[05:33] you could maybe taken out of context or

[05:35] maybe no I just didn't want to debate a

[05:36] 12-year-old of DNC honestly was the time

[05:39] like it was 12 and he was super sweet

[05:42] and super nice like I'm not going to

[05:43] debate you like Michael lell ended up

[05:44] debating him it was a disaster so um

[05:47] yeah look very clear of course we needed

[05:48] to end evil segregation the way we did

[05:50] it was with a wide ranging over-the-top

[05:54] bill called the Civil Rights Act that

[05:56] has now created the prerequisite of what

[05:58] we now call woke and so so for example

[06:00] the Civil Rights Act is now being used

[06:02] to shut down people's business if they

[06:04] have a certain belief on uh one man one

[06:07] woman marriage saying that that is

[06:08] discrimination under the Civil Rights

[06:09] Act so of course my perspective is it

[06:11] should be illegal to actively

[06:12] discriminate against somebody based on

[06:14] their skin color that's not what the

[06:15] Civil Rights Act only did though that's

[06:17] one portion of the Civil Rights Act

[06:18] there's nine or 10 components that

[06:20] people don't even recognize or realize

[06:22] that effectively created this massive

[06:25] anti-racist anti-racist is the term the

[06:27] left use uses uh monstrosity that is now

[06:31] being used for things that it was never

[06:33] intended for including affirmative

[06:35] action and and what's like can you name

[06:37] a maybe a few specific cases where

[06:38] people have cited

[06:40] like doesn't relate to Great ex great

[06:43] question so Merrick Garland recently the

[06:45] the Attorney General of the United

[06:46] States recently said that North Carolina

[06:50] and Georgia cannot have voter ID laws so

[06:53] asking somebody to provide

[06:54] identification when they vote because

[06:56] it's a violation of the Civil Rights

[06:58] Act because they say that it

[07:00] disproportionately impacts black

[07:02] Americans so the issue with the Civil

[07:04] Rights Act is um is not just the not

[07:09] just the action of being of racially

[07:12] segregating or of being uh racially

[07:15] insensitive or to somebody it is the

[07:17] impact so if it impacts a certain group

[07:20] therefore it's also then called illegal

[07:22] under the Civil Rights Act does that

[07:23] make sense yeah so it most certainly

[07:25] wasn't wasn't a mistake though well of

[07:27] course it was a mistake The Way It Was

[07:28] Written the intent was not though okay

[07:30] but at the time of course it was not a

[07:33] mistake yes it was the the way that it

[07:34] was written what people have used it for

[07:36] now maybe yes but back then it wasn't a

[07:38] mistake though because no but you have

[07:39] to judge the law as it is now right so

[07:42] it's like saying well the law might have

[07:44] been good 20 years ago okay but so you

[07:46] did say oh I'm against discrimination

[07:48] but I don't think the Civil Rights bill

[07:49] should have be signed so one provision I

[07:51] think should have been passed so one

[07:53] provision but it should you're saying it

[07:54] should have been like like should have

[07:56] been Whitted down and it should have

[07:57] been this massive over ing uh

[08:01] monstrosity okay okay thank you thank

[08:03] you appreciate it yes yes sir um so

[08:06] first off I'm a republican voting for

[08:07] trump super excited about that but there

[08:10] is a obviously a huge issue in the

[08:12] country with health care

[08:14] prices and I know Trump had the

[08:16] transparency uh uh executive order but

[08:20] what do you think is the best way to

[08:22] lower costs for families yeah I mean

[08:25] this is huge first of all you just have

[08:26] to lower inflation more broadly that's

[08:28] number one number two you have to go

[08:29] after the hospital Lobby uh where the

[08:31] hospitals are gouging prices

[08:33] significantly um number three this is

[08:35] why I'm wearing the make America Health

[08:36] the make America healthy shirt um we

[08:39] have to try to get at the root cause

[08:41] which is the food that we are feeding

[08:43] ourselves and our kids we have to we

[08:45] have to get to the fact that we are an

[08:47] increasingly sedentary country we aren't

[08:49] walking enough we're not exercising

[08:51] enough and health care costs are

[08:53] exploding because we don't actually

[08:55] address the root cause 20 or 30 years

[08:57] prior how do we how do we take those

[09:00] huge food companies well the first thing

[09:01] is we should have a real conversation

[09:02] about banning pesticides in when we're

[09:04] making our food um Ultra ultr processed

[09:07] food ultr processed food should not be

[09:09] on the FDA recommended food pyramid

[09:12] right this is why I love Bobby Kennedy

[09:14] coming and joining teams with Donald

[09:16] Trump is that it's his life mission to

[09:18] make America healthier we have a chronic

[09:20] disease epidemic half of all America's

[09:22] kids are chronically obese or overweight

[09:25] in Japan it is 3% it's not because our

[09:28] kids are lazier it's because we are

[09:30] actively poisoning our kids with food

[09:33] from Big A that is that we're spraying

[09:36] with all these pesticides these

[09:37] chemicals and if you look at the

[09:38] ingredient list of just a Lunchables box

[09:41] we we are basically giving kids the

[09:42] worst thing possible for their

[09:43] metabolism for their Endocrinology so

[09:46] that I I'm more interested in a

[09:48] healthcare conversation that tries to

[09:49] make sure that a 12-year-old doesn't

[09:52] have to get on OIC by the time they're

[09:53] 18 years old and just so you know

[09:55] they're giving pediatric OIC now for 12

[09:58] and 13 year olds they are they're now

[10:00] treating obesity as a genetic disorder

[10:03] that you cannot do anything about and

[10:05] they just want a 12-year-old to now have

[10:07] to take a shot every week to try to curb

[10:09] their obesity which has all other sorts

[10:10] of very very negative Health

[10:12] implications so um every day potentially

[10:15] right and so so how do we solve that

[10:18] well my personal Crusade we have to blow

[10:21] up the food pyramid that we have way too

[10:23] many carbohydrates in our diet not

[10:25] enough healthy fats and not enough

[10:27] protein whoever made that was obviously

[10:29] ly bought by the big a companies and you

[10:31] should just say I'm not going to have

[10:32] any more high fructose corn syrup I'm

[10:34] not going to have any more processed

[10:35] sugars and if there are ingredience I

[10:37] can't pronounce I should resist it and

[10:39] in the ideal we should have a government

[10:41] that promotes the question did God make

[10:43] it or did man make it have more foods

[10:45] every day that God made more so than

[10:47] what man made and you'll be a lot

[10:49] healthier because of it so thank you

[10:50] very much appreciate it thank you can I

[10:53] get yeah wearing on

[10:55] campus for a Republican party that

[10:58] Prides itself on person responsibility

[11:00] protecting the sentient unborn and free

[11:02] markets I was curious your thoughts on

[11:05] animal rights just because the

[11:07] government subsidizes animal agriculture

[11:09] far more than fruits and vegetables and

[11:11] plant foods which inhibits the free

[11:13] market and ends up slaughtering lots of

[11:15] animals and animals are also sentient

[11:17] beings like The Unborn so I was curious

[11:19] your thoughts on all of that yeah so the

[11:22] question is first is an animal a

[11:24] human no okay so does it therefore have

[11:27] rights I mean we all already have rights

[11:30] for animals for dogs cats and even for

[11:32] some but do you get First Amendment

[11:33] protections for your dog does can your

[11:35] dog own a firearm right no no of course

[11:37] not so it's it's not the same thing as a

[11:39] human I'm not saying now as a Christian

[11:42] we're also not allowed to torture or to

[11:45] slaughter that's in the noic Covenant

[11:47] and repeatedly out the scriptures we

[11:48] must be Humane in our treatment of

[11:50] animals but as far I don't know where

[11:52] you're coming out from this perspective

[11:53] but some people would say that animals

[11:56] and humans are on the same moral plane I

[11:58] don't think that's what you're saying

[11:59] right um however there is a push though

[12:03] to say that we should no longer eat meat

[12:05] because it's bad for the life of animals

[12:08] we should do what's best for human

[12:09] beings first and foremost and it's good

[12:12] for human beings to eat meat it's good

[12:13] for human beings to be able to eat

[12:14] animals it's good for human beings to

[12:16] not just eat Pro like this synthetic

[12:19] fake meat that Bill Gates wants to make

[12:20] all day long um and so yeah we where do

[12:23] I stand on animal rights I mean I don't

[12:25] think any living being should be

[12:27] tortured or should be cruy treed um at

[12:30] the same time we should always do what's

[12:32] best for human beings and human beings

[12:33] first so for example when there's an

[12:34] environmental question the question

[12:36] should first be what is best for the

[12:38] human species not what's best for you

[12:40] know the trees or for the the snake

[12:43] those things are important but it's more

[12:44] important about uh for humans does that

[12:46] answer your question or in part is okay

[12:47] if I follow yeah I mean in terms of what

[12:50] rights we give to animals of course we

[12:51] wouldn't give animals the right to drive

[12:53] a car vote because it's not relevant to

[12:55] them but the rights that would be

[12:56] relevant to them are basic negative

[12:57] rights the right not to be treated or

[12:59] killed and we already have that for cats

[13:01] and dogs and even cruelty laws on farm

[13:03] animals well well we're allowed to kill

[13:04] dogs that's not true we have kill

[13:06] shelters for dogs right we also kill

[13:08] dogs that bite their owners and dogs

[13:09] with rabies right so if a human being

[13:11] gets rabies what do we

[13:13] do we we treat the human if a dog gets

[13:16] rabies unless there's like a miraculous

[13:19] treatment which there usually isn't

[13:20] right so you're right the negative

[13:22] rights we do have rights to be able to

[13:24] for better for worse because we do not

[13:26] treat dogs and cats as the same moral

[13:29] level because we as human beings have a

[13:31] soul we have reason we have the ability

[13:33] to make sense of the natural world dogs

[13:35] do not right dogs only have senses they

[13:38] do not have reason and so for example a

[13:41] dog cannot tell that it's a dog it now

[13:43] there's some disagreement about that but

[13:45] we as human beings can make sense in the

[13:47] natural world we are the speaking beings

[13:48] to to say differently but no no animal

[13:50] should be mistreated but to say that

[13:53] animals are not allowed to be killed

[13:55] would be therefore an argument against

[13:56] meat correct right yeah

[13:59] andu against right that's very unpopular

[14:02] probably at you know W Madison to get

[14:04] rid of bacon right so just guessing yeah

[14:07] yeah and I mean the reason I'm I'm

[14:09] bringing this up ultimately is these

[14:12] animals that we kill on factory farms we

[14:14] kill them pigs in gas Chambers we ground

[14:17] up male chicks alive for the egg

[14:19] industry because only the female hens

[14:20] lay eggs all these different things is

[14:22] because we view animals on not having

[14:26] enough rights to actually protect their

[14:28] livelihood I'm making an argument that

[14:30] we shouldn't obviously give animals

[14:31] rights that aren't relevant to them yeah

[14:35] if if you were a dictator would you say

[14:37] we cannot kill pigs no I think that

[14:40] should be left up to the free market the

[14:41] reason I'm concerned about it is the

[14:43] government is spending billions of

[14:45] dollars yeah I I I think factory farming

[14:47] has a lot of problems more because of

[14:49] the health of the human that eats the

[14:50] meat less than about the animal because

[14:53] it's just not as good for uh the human

[14:55] so thank you real quick do you think

[14:57] ultimately that Republican party that is

[15:00] pro- free market should be propping up

[15:02] billions of dollars towards subsidies

[15:04] for I'm not a huge subsidy fan of things

[15:06] that make people fat and unhealthy so

[15:07] would you if you were in a voting

[15:08] position either if you were an elected

[15:10] leader would you vote against and should

[15:11] Republicans vote against that I'm not in

[15:13] a voting position but yeah I I would

[15:15] advocate for I advocate against most of

[15:17] our current agricultural subsidies for

[15:19] sure okay thank you thank you

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