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Isabel Brown reflects on Charlie Kirk's memorial service in Phoenix, Arizona, where 73,000 people gathered alongside the President, Vice President, and cabinet members to honor his legacy. What began as a political movement transformed into something far greater as government leaders publicly proclaimed their faith and commitment to God in unprecedented ways. Brown shares her firsthand account of the worship, the speeches, and Erika Kirk's stunning moment of forgiveness. This wasn't just a funeral, it was a divine turning point for a generation mourning the loss of their champion while simultaneously experiencing the greatest revival in American history.
An Unprecedented Gathering in Phoenix
After speaking at Colorado State University in Charlie Kirk's place and traveling through the night with her baby on a red-eye flight, Isabel Brown arrived in Washington DC determined to bring her show back to listeners. But first, she had to process what she witnessed in Phoenix, Arizona—an event unlike anything she'd experienced in nearly 200 political gatherings throughout her career in the conservative movement.
People began lining up days in advance, with reports of a father and his nine-year-old son arriving early Thursday morning to be first in line. By Sunday morning before sunrise, tens of thousands were already gathered, singing hymns and chanting Charlie's name. Aerial footage suggested between 100,000 to 300,000 people traveled from across America and around the world to attend.
The stadium filled with 73,000 people—every seat occupied, capacity exceeded. But this wasn't just another political rally. From the moment Brown walked through the doors, she felt a shift toward something transcendent. The entire Republican delegation of the United States Senate attended. Basically the entire cabinet of the White House. The President, Vice President, and Elon Musk were there. The Speaker of the House. Members of Congress from across the country.
The Organic Memorial Outside Turning Point USA
Before the main service, Brown visited the organic memorial that had sprung up outside the Turning Point USA office where she had worked for many years. Thousands of people had created a spontaneous tribute with flowers, handwritten notes, candles, and prayer cards.
The details were remarkably thoughtful and intentional. Hundreds of Starbucks cups lined the sidewalk, each filled with Charlie's signature order—Mint Majesty tea with two honeys, which he drank on the road to preserve his voice for debates. Notes on the cups read "so we don't lose our voice."
People remembered that Erika Kirk had told her daughter that "Daddy's on a work trip with Jesus" to afford her favorite snack, blueberries. Dozens of blueberry cartons appeared at the memorial. People sang Amazing Grace repeatedly, creating an atmosphere of solemn groundedness in something bigger than themselves.
For Brown, who lived across the street from the office and met her husband there, this was the moment it became real—Charlie wasn't coming back. This wasn't a temporary hiatus. He wouldn't be walking out on stage or hosting his show or sending random Bible verse texts anymore.
A Service Rooted in Worship
The memorial began not with political speeches but with a powerful worship service that brought the entire arena to tears. The Holy Spirit's presence was tangible as 73,000 people sang together, many experiencing worship music for the first time in their lives.
Some critics questioned why the service felt joyful rather than purely somber. They criticized the stage setup, the production value, even the sparkler fireworks that accompanied Erika Kirk's entrance. Charlie's executive producer, Andrew Kolvet, responded perfectly: "Because Charlie loved them. We don't grieve the way that the world grieves."
As Christians, death is not the worst thing that can happen. Death is the next great adventure into eternal life. Charlie is more alive now than any of us. So why should a funeral be nothing but doom and gloom, especially when celebrating the revival his death has sparked?
The Common Thread: Taking God to Unexpected Places
Nearly every speech preached the gospel in some capacity, but a fire and passion for bringing God to unexpected places emerged as the dominant theme. Brown felt ready to run into battle while simultaneously weeping and holding her daughter.
She could finally see the bigger picture of what they fight for every day. Charlie's movement with Turning Point USA started as a purely political effort to preserve America through free speech, limited government, and free markets. But as Charlie became a deeper student of truth, he recognized that the source of all truth is objectively God. A functioning society cannot exist without constant reminder of this reality.
Brown watched some of the most powerful people in media, television, independent podcasting, and government remind themselves of this truth in real time. The American dream cannot exist without constant reaffirmation—as individuals, communities, and as an entire country—that we are one nation under God.
The Blood of the Martyrs as Seed of the Church
Throughout church history, a principle has held true: the blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church. When Christians are killed for testifying to the gospel and their belief in God, it creates revival around the world. God uses martyrdom to build His church.
Benny Johnson delivered one of the day's most powerful speeches, drawing parallels between Charlie and Stephen, the first Christian martyr. Stephen was killed for speaking the truth about Christ. Like Charlie, Stephen was the same age when he was martyred.
At that time, Christianity was just a handful of scared believers in Jerusalem. After Stephen's martyrdom, Christianity spread throughout the known world. This is how God advances His kingdom—through the power of martyrdom. And He's doing it right now with Charlie Kirk.
Brown reflected on how we associate martyrdom with bygone eras—saints beheaded by the Roman Empire or thrown to lions in the Colosseum. We don't think of someone like Charlie Kirk as a martyr. But it's the exact same mechanism God has used since the dawn of the church to spread His message and awaken fire in people from the most unexpected places.
Tucker Carlson on Bringing the Gospel to the Country
Tucker Carlson emphasized that Charlie's main message was bringing the gospel to the country. He was doing the thing those in charge hate most—calling for them to repent.
Charlie was deeply interested in coalition building and getting the right people in office because he knew vast improvements are possible politically. But he also knew politics is not the final answer. It can't answer the deepest questions. The only real solution to a broken society is Jesus, is God.
In his later years, Charlie's main passion wasn't to own the libs or create viral smackdown moments. His real passion was introducing people to God—specifically people who could make huge impact on the world, whose repentance and bold public proclamation of faith would impact millions.
He understood Proverbs 29:2: "When the righteous rule, people rejoice." When righteous people are given God's ordinance of power, society will be rooted in what is good, true, and beautiful.
Government Leaders Proclaiming the Gospel
Brown never predicted the speeches that came from members of the United States government. She expected a political rally—go MAGA conservatism, Charlie's great, put your red hat on and get back out there.
Instead, it was a beautiful, solemn memorial that also became a hold-up-the-mirror introspective moment. The Secretary of War, Secretary of Health and Human Services, Secretary of State, Vice President, and President looked within themselves and declared: "I have not been who I want to be. I don't proclaim my faith loudly enough. I don't fearlessly go into a world rejecting my values and say them anyway. I'm afraid of political backlash. Never again will I be afraid because of how Charlie Kirk's life and death have changed me forever."
Secretary of State Marco Rubio used his time on stage to simply explain the gospel. He spoke of how God created every person before the beginning of time, how sin separated us from our Creator, how God took on human form and suffered and died like a man, but rose on the third day unlike any mortal man. He ate with His disciples to prove He rose in the flesh, not as a ghost or spirit. Then He ascended to heaven with a promise to return.
When He returns, because He carried the cross and took on death, we are freed from the sin that separated us from Him. There will be a new heaven and a new earth, and we will all be together, reunited with Charlie and all the people we love.
The response was thunderous. Every time Jesus Christ and the gospel were mentioned, 73,000 people leapt to their feet, clapping, cheering, giving thanks to God. This was the Secretary of State—in the line of presidential succession—using his minutes not to make it about himself or even Charlie, but to make it about God, because that is the ultimate battle we're fighting.
JD Vance's Moment of Reckoning
Vice President JD Vance's entire speech was remarkable, but one moment stood out. He had a look-in-the-mirror reckoning with himself, acknowledging his deep Christian faith while expressing embarrassment that he hadn't spoken enough about it publicly.
He confessed that he always felt uncomfortable talking about his faith in public. Despite loving the Lord and it being an important part of his life, he had talked more about Jesus Christ in the past two weeks than in his entire time in public life—in his entire life, period.
This wasn't about him or even about Charlie. It was about the movement, the country, the government, and the world taking a step back to look at the life of this extraordinary young man taken by evil and asking: What was it all about for him? Why did he get out of bed in the morning? Why was he ready—as he expressed to many people—to give his life if evil did strike?
It wasn't about who was running for president or American history alone. This was about something so much bigger. Somewhere along the way, America lost its connection to the divine. If anyone should exhibit that connection stronger than all of us, it should be our leadership—the people we elect to represent We the People.
What Strong Women Really Look Like
There's speculation that a political career may launch for Erika Kirk, Charlie's widow and newly appointed President and CEO of Turning Point USA's board of directors. But no one exhibited quiet strength, faithful fortitude, and willingness to become a vessel for God more than Erika Kirk.
Her strength was the most extraordinary thing Brown had ever witnessed. In an arena of 73,000 people, you could hear a pin drop when Erika said: "My husband Charlie, he wanted to save young men just like the one who took his life. That young man on the cross, our Savior, said, 'Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.' That man, that young man, I forgive him because it was what Christ did and is what Charlie would do. The answer to hate is not hate. The answer we know from the gospel is love and always love. Love for our enemies and love for those who persecute us."
Brown noted that culture tells us strong women are angry, hardened, tough, lacking vulnerability or femininity or softness. But can anyone with a soul watch that moment and not recognize Erika as the strongest woman they've ever seen? Yet she's the exact opposite of what culture calls empowering.
She's soft. Quick to forgive. Vulnerable. Crying in front of a hundred million people just eleven days after her husband was violently assassinated. But she's authentic. She realizes if this was just about her, of course she would hate, would never forgive. But it's not about her—because the answer to hate is always more love, and the answer to our brokenness and sin is always God.
The White House Posts Christian Content
After the event, the official White House Instagram and TikTok accounts posted video clips from the memorial with the caption "Heat." The White House posted Christian worship and gospel proclamation content. People were shocked. "We're back, baby," Brown exclaimed.
If this is what people call Christian nationalism, she wants it injected into her veins every five seconds. This isn't forcing anything on anyone. This is one nation under God. This is who we were designed to be. She had never felt prouder of being an American, of fighting in the conservative movement, of supporting this administration.
Growing Bigger Around the Hole
Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. shared a meaningful anecdote that got brushed over but was profoundly important. He asked his mother after his brother died whether the pain of losing someone, the hole they leave, ever goes away.
His mother, who lost her husband and brother-in-law to assassinations, told him: "It never gets any smaller. Our job is to grow ourselves bigger around the hole. We do that by taking the best qualities, the best most admirable character traits of the person who died and integrating them with restraint, with discipline, with practice into our own character. In doing that, we make ourselves larger and the hole gets proportionally smaller. But we also give a kind of immortality to the person who left us because their work continues through us."
That's how we make our lives bigger proportionally around the hole left when someone is missing from us and our movement. That's what we need to do with Charlie. Take his best qualities and attributes and diligently, willingly work them into our own lives to carry his torch forward.
Freedom Means Doing What We Should
Brown has come to realize that freedom—something she says she fights for every day—can't just mean our right to do whatever we want. Real freedom, genuine liberty, must come out of our call to do and say what we should, not just whatever we want. Otherwise, we will very quickly lose our society to evil.
It's up to every single person listening, everyone who knew and loved Charlie, and every child to come afterward to see this Charlie-sized hole and make their lives, movement, faith, and foundation in God so much bigger than ever thought possible—bigger than we can even envision today.
The UK Bans the Bible App
Evil is rearing its ugly head worldwide. In what seems like perfect timing this week, the United Kingdom and European Union banned the Bible app. People can no longer download the most popular Bible app onto their phones because of the totalitarian Digital Services Act, meant to protect people from hate speech and misinformation—things constitutionally protected for Americans but not for citizens under this dystopian law.
The Bible Gateway app, the most popular online Bible website and app in the world used by millions of Christians, is now unavailable in the UK and EU due to the Online Safety Act and equivalent EU legislation. When people try to access it, they receive a message saying the service is unavailable due to these laws.
Someone did basic investigation and discovered you can still download the Quran in the UK and EU. That's what happens when leaders lose groundedness in faith. That's what happens when we forget our tie to the divine. That's what happens when we label anything rooted in what is good, true, and beautiful as misinformation and hate speech.
It's obvious the Bible would be considered misinformation and hate speech, though even George Orwell might not have imagined this level of dystopia. We must pray fervently for leaders not just in the United States but in the UK and EU, and for everyone missing a link to the divine because of our lack of faith as a society.
Mass Arrests for Online Speech in Britain
Tommy Robinson tallied data on the number of people arrested for online comments in the most recent year available—2023. Britain has by far the most arrests per year related to speech issues, far more than Syria or even Iran.
The United Kingdom arrested more than 12,000 people in 2023 for online comments considered hate speech or misinformation. Iran arrested 100 by comparison. This is what happens when we lose our connection to God. When governments forget they're supposed to be under the sovereign rule of God. When we stop having hard conversations, stop bringing truth to people, stop having the courage Charlie Kirk demonstrated to stand up and fight back. Evil reigns supreme.
Are Americans comfortable letting it reach the foregone conclusion of what's happening in the UK? Brown certainly isn't. It's time to pick up Charlie's microphone, his torch, and run faster and scream louder than even he ever did.
Attacks from Within Congress
Even in the United States, elected leaders are doing everything they can to shut down this movement, even from inside the church. Representative Ilhan Omar spoke at a Lutheran church over the weekend, saying everything associated with Charlie is terrible and evil because he was an evil person. She went viral on CNN for these remarks.
She told the congregation: "If you are interested in honoring Charlie's legacy, rewriting her version of history, you are full of it." She called him a hateful man, though her version of history appears based on a totally different reality shaped by the media she consumes.
Representative Mikie Sherrill shared a statement refusing to vote for a resolution supporting Charlie Kirk's life, claiming he had "vile dissenting views" and advocated for "Christian nationalist government" and "rolling back the rights of women and black people"—none of which are true. She associated these views with President Trump, calling it hypocrisy from Trump and his supporters.
The Choice Before Us
We have a choice to make as a society, and it has never been more obvious. Sitting in an arena of 73,000 people worshiping God, crying over the senseless violence wreaking havoc across the country, and praying desperately for courage to tell the truth to a very angry, sinister, evil world—the choice is clear.
Path one: Stand up with courage and say, "Here I am, Lord. Send me." Path two: Let the demons win. Which way depends on us and our willingness to take a stand.
This doesn't necessarily mean subjecting yourself to a death sentence, though in extreme cases it might. It certainly meant that for Charlie. But it might mean being uncomfortable. Having tough conversations around the Thanksgiving dinner table. Evaluating where your kids go to school, where you're going to church or if you're going to church, what media you're consuming, how you're spending your free time, who your closest friends are and how their values impact you, who you're voting for.
Take it all seriously because we are on the precipice of evil. Are we going to let it get that far? Or are we willing to stand up and have the courage of Charlie Kirk?
Video Transcript
I am not exaggerating when I say Charlie Kirk's memorial service was the single most important event in modern American history as we teeter on the precipice of good versus evil in our society. And speaking of evil, the free speech battle in the United Kingdom heats up and our members of Congress are taking to churches to attack conservatives. Yikes. We're getting into all of it today on the Isabelle Brown Show with this episode brought to you by Bulland Branch. Visit bolandenbranch.com/isabel for an exclusive offer. [Music] We are back in Washington DC after an incredibly powerful few days. first speaking at Colorado State University at my alma mater in Charlie's place where he was scheduled to be on his next stop of the Prove Me Wrong American Comeback Tour. Then headed to Phoenix, Arizona for the absolutely stunning memorial service that I'm sure most of you had a chance to watch the vast majority of. We are going to be talking a lot about that on the show today. Apologies in advance for the bags under my eyes and my rambling sentences. Your girl did take the red eyee with a baby because I'm a glutton for punishment, but more so because we wanted to bring the show back to you. So, we had to have our booty in a seat this morning here in Washington DC. I hope you all had a restful weekend. And if you didn't get a chance to watch Charlie Kirk's memorial service, I have to say I have been probably to 200 political oriented events in my time working in the conservative movement, including almost every single Turning Point USA event since the first one I ever went to in 2017. And I have to tell you, I have never seen energy or felt the Holy Spirit move through an experience that had any ties to politics whatsoever like what I experienced yesterday in Phoenix, Arizona. And we have some clips to share with you. But just to set the preface of this, yes, we are devastated. Yes, we are heartbroken. Yes, we are so so sad about the tragic violent loss of Charlie Kirk, especially those of us who know him personally. But I have never felt more hopeful, more optimistic, and more 100% certain that we are fighting for what is good and true and beautiful amidst evil. And that our country is experiencing the greatest revival perhaps in our nation's history than I do right now. And all of that is because of you and your courage and your willingness to pick up the microphone from Charlie Kirk to say we are all Charlie Kirk and to fight now for free speech, for freedom, and for our free belief in God above. So, thank you for your courage in the process. All of this really started setting the tone for the energy of Charlie's memorial going into the weekend from clips I started seeing on social media of how you guys were traveling into Phoenix, Arizona. This one ended up going pretty viral on X, but entire planes, entire airplanes were full of people chanting Charlie Kirk, wearing MAGA hats, and of course, giving thanks to God. Listen to this. I once lost but now I'm found. Was mine but now I see for Charlie for Charlie. H I love that so much. And I heard that song probably 45 more times throughout the weekend, especially taking the time to visit the organic memorial that people had set up outside of the Turning Point USA office. I don't have any clips to share with you on the show for that today, but please go see my ex or my Instagram because we posted lots of pictures and videos. And as someone who worked in that office for a really long time, for many, many years, I met my husband working in that office. I used to live right across the street like many uh of my former friends who I met working there and we've now all gone our separate ways. That's when it really started to feel real to me that Charlie was not coming back. He wasn't going to be walking out on stage at some random moment in the future. He wasn't going to be hosting his show anytime. It's it's not just this rotating cast of guest hosts until we wait for him to get back, which is kind of I think how all of us have been feeling because we've known him so well. We see him run at break neck speed all the time and he was always living on an airplane. So you really only saw Charlie every couple weeks or every couple of months. And uh it really started to sink in that this wasn't one of those little hiatuses that we were just waiting to be reconnected with our friend and our mentor. This was very real when I showed up to the Turning Point USA office and thousands upon thousands of people had set up this organic memorial right outside the front gate into the Turning Point USA office complex with flowers and handwritten notes and candles and prayer cards and poster boards. There were hundreds of Starbucks cups lining the sidewalk of Charlie's Starbucks order, which was a Mint Majesty tea with two honeys. He would always drink it on the road so that he wouldn't lose his voice when debating. And people were leaving notes on the cups saying so we don't lose our voice. People remembered that Erica had said during her speech to the nation just 2 days after Charlie was killed that they were telling her daughter, "Daddy's on a work trip with Jesus to afford your blueberries because that's her favorite snack." And there were dozens of blueberry cartons everywhere. I mean, people were so thoughtful, so intentional, and so deeply rooted in giving thanks to God for this man with prayers, with candles, with singing hymns like Amazing Grace. I heard it probably 45 times, like I said, as I was walking up and down this memorial. And that energy, that solemn groundedness in something bigger than ourselves and realizing, yes, we lost this giant, but he is giving us a voice to move forward. we need to take up his Starbucks order so that we don't lose our voice. That's exactly what set the tone going into Sunday. You guys know how much I love the Hallow app and how it has totally transformed our family's prayer routine. This month, one of Hallow's most beloved prayer challenges has returned. One that I personally do every time it comes back, Saints in 7 Days. The point is really simple. The Saints are not just these distant figures on stained glass windows that you see at church on Sunday morning. They were and are real men and women whose lives and all of their struggles and triumphs reveal the full grace and glory of God. And in discovering their stories, we may just begin to see how God is quietly at work in our own lives, too. Starting September 15th, we just started with King David in the new Saints in 7 Days series brought to life by Michael Iscander from the House of David. David's story is one of the most dramatic stories in scripture. It's one of my personal favorites going from shepherd to warrior to king to poet. He was a flawed person, yes, but he's always returning back to the Lord, which can teach us so much. And his psalms still echo with raw honesty, repentance, and trust. On September 22nd and beyond, Gwen Stefani tells the beautiful story of Esther, the young queen who risked everything, stood before power, and became God's instrument of salvation for her people. Then, we're going to walk through one of my favorite saints lives, St. TZ of Lassou, who shows us that holiness is the little way. the choices we make in our everyday love and trust. And finally, with St. Oscar Romero, who teaches us what it means to stand for truth and justice, even to the point of martyrdom, which obviously we're talking a lot about these days in our country. Together, these witnesses remind us that holiness is not one-sizefits-all. God writes his story in every life, including in yours. Join us anytime on Hallow for Saints in 7 Days. Get three months free from Hallow at.com/isabel. So, I woke up on Sunday to go to the memorial, but they were actually instructing people to show up at like 2:00 3:00 in the morning because there was no guarantee that you could get into this event that started at 11:00 and uh the security was going to open promptly at 7:00 on the dot. So, I roll over in bed at about 6:00 6:30 and I open my phone and immediately I start seeing countless videos like this one before the sun was even up. This was posted around 4:00 4:30 in the morning in Phoenix, Arizona. Look at this. [Music] It's the most insane thing you've ever seen in your life. Like, I've been to numerous America, very impactful events. God bless America is right. Numerous, very impactful events, Trump rallies, big conferences, etc. But everyone was estimating from the aerial footage that 1 to 300,000 people showed up from all across America, from all across the world to be here to celebrate the life of Charlie Kirk and to say, "You tried to silence us. Look what you did instead." I saw allegedly the first people in line was a dad and a young son. He was about 9 years old and they had been in line since early morning on Thursday to be the first in line in order to enter this venue. Eventually on Sunday morning when the gates opened at 7:00 and almost immediately after the gates opened, the stadium started to fill up with a massive, massive crowd all for Charlie. This is what it looked like inside. Wow. I loved this tweet from a cactus flower. We are all here. There were 73,000 people inside this arena. We are all here because one kid, one person was bold and courageous enough to speak the truth. Absolutely amazing. W I mean, just chills, right? It was the craziest, coolest thing I've ever seen. And eventually once everyone poured in and we all started to gather together to celebrate Charlie's life, this is what the stadium ended up looking like. This is from TPUSA's Twitter account. All for Charlie Kirk. I was on the floor somewhere in there running around with a baby in my my arms. But I just kept looking up to the highest points of the rafters in this stadium and every single seat was occupied with a person. There were probably too many people for seats. We went way over capacity. But everyone was joyful. Everyone was smiling. Everyone was chanting Charlie's name and USA. And the energy started to get not just exciting in a patriotic political sense, but have a very big shift really from the second I walked in the front door, I don't know if it felt this way in line as well, toward God in a way that I have never seen in any political circle in America in my lifetime ever. And it's no doubt this was a political event. I mean, basically the entire United States government was there. numerous members of the House of Representatives, including the Speaker of the House. Basically, the entire Republican delegation of the United States Senate. Basically, the entire cabinet of the White House, the president and vice president and Elon were there. Looks like that's one of Charlie's first miracles is getting the band back together in that capacity. But everything was centered around this common theme of our collective submission as a nation and as a movement to God. Which is exactly why this memorial started with a very powerful worship service that just brought all of us to tears. If you didn't get to see this on the live stream, I hope you get a chance to hear it now because you can just hear the Holy Spirit moving through people. Hallelujah. [Music] One more time. So I hold my hand. Praise you again. All that I have is a And I know it's not [Music] for our single [Music] hallelujah. [Music] [Applause] You can see this dichotomy and I felt it the whole day between the solemn sadness and heartbreak that we were experiencing and we were the whole time. I mean, you might not be able to tell from a video like that, but there was not a dry eye in the house the entire day. We were all just weeping uncontrollably as we should be. We were mourning the loss of our friend, but there was also a sense of joy and optimism and a next step forward. And a lot of people were criticizing that. People were saying, "How dare you be treating a funeral or a memorial service like this joyful worship service concert," which was crazy. Other people criticized the way that the stage was set up and the specific AV uh that was put together to make this seem more like a rally or like a rah rahrrah moment rather than a funeral. I ended up seeing this tweet eventually that they were criticizing the fact that there were sparkler fireworks on the stage that we shouldn't be doing this at a funeral. Look at this. This is crazy. You see Erica walk out on stage. You can hear the roaring of applause for her. And Truth Seeker, not one of our Truth Seekers, says, "Why are there fireworks at the memorial service for Charlie Kirk?" They compared it to a WWE event. And Charlie's executive producer, Andrew Kovvette, says this so beautifully because Charlie loved them. We don't grieve the way that the world grieavves. We're heartbroken. We're miserable, of course. And this came up in many of the speeches. Yes, we're devastated. Yes, we have no idea how we are going to fill this hole that Charlie Kirk has left in the conservative movement in our hearts for those of us who knew him. The country and the world, an entire generation is mourning the loss of Charlie. But we as Christians, we as people of faith, don't grieve like the world grieavves. Because honestly, death is not the worst thing that could happen to you. The vice president ended up saying that directly in his speech, almost verbatim. Death is but the next great adventure into eternal life. And Charlie is more alive than we are. So why should a funeral or a memorial service just be completely doom and gloom negativity the whole time? especially when we're celebrating the impact of revival that Charlie's death has created in our society. What really struck me as the common thread throughout almost every single one of the speeches given yesterday, arguably every speech did preach the gospel in some capacity, but there was this fire and passion for bringing God to unexpected places in the speeches that were given yesterday. And frankly, I was ready to like run into battle in the midst of all of this as I'm uncontrollably weeping, holding my daughter. But I I felt so passionate about what we do every day, more than I have ever experienced in my life, more even than when I looked at my daughter and I said, "This is why what I do every day matters." Because I could start to see the bigger impact of what we're fighting for here. We spent so much time on the show last week talking about how Charlie's movement with Turning Point USA didn't really start out to transform people's souls. It was totally a political movement aimed at preserving the United States of America and fighting for free speech, limited government, and free markets, and that was it. But somewhere along the way, as Charlie started to delve further into and become a deeper student of truth, he'd be the first to tell you that the source of truth is objectively God. And we cannot live in a functioning society if we don't constantly remind ourselves of that every single day. Yesterday I watched some of the most powerful people in media, in television, in the new media and independent podcaster space. And maybe even more importantly, the government, the most powerful politicians and governance leaders in the world remind themselves of that in real time. that we cannot live in what we call the United States of America and we cannot embrace a true American dream if we don't constantly reaffirm as individuals, as communities, and as our entire country that we are one nation under God. It's been said throughout the history of the church that the blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church. And that throughout history as Christians when we see people martyed for their faith, when we see them killed for testifying to the gospel and their belief in God, that it creates a revival around the world. And God uses this to build the church around the world. And this goes all the way back to the very first martyr of Christianity named St. Steven. I have never really studied St. Steven very often. I just know that he is the first martyr of the church and that's pretty much it. Benny Johnson took me to church yesterday with one of the best speeches of the entire day, I have to say. And he provided some really amazing clarification on the fact that Charlie is following in those exact same steps. This is what Charlie always wanted. This is how he wanted to be remembered in the mold of Steven, the first martyr. Steven was killed for speaking the truth about Christ. Much like Charlie Kirk, the martyr Steven was the same age as Charlie Kirk when he was martyed. Wow. At that time, Christianity was just a few very scared Christians in Jerusalem. And after Steven's martyrdom, Christianity sped spread throughout the known world. The power of martyrdom. This is how God and Christ always advances his kingdom. And he's doing it right now with Charlie Kirk. The exact same age. The number of conversations I've had with my friends over the past few days about how we associate martyrdom with something of a bygone era of church history, something from thousands of years ago with someone like a St. Steven or I think about my patron confirmation saint, St. Cecilia, who was sentenced to death by the Roman Empire for spreading the gospel. They tried to behead her. Brutal way to go out. Three times, failed three times. Home girl's head half hanging off. She lives for like three days after this and is joyfully singing and proclaiming her faith in God and ended up converting countless other people throughout that process before she did eventually die. That's what we think of with martyrdom or being eaten by lions in the coliseum. We don't look at something like what happened 12 days ago with Charlie Kirk and associate that with being a martyr, but it's the exact same mechanism of action that God has been using since the dawn of the church, since the death of Christ to spread his church and his message throughout the world and to awaken this fire in people from the most unexpected places ever in order to change society and change humanity. Charlie and Steven are perfect examples of that. As a new mom and especially coming home to crawl in bed after a redeye flight, creating a cozy bedroom sanctuary has become so so important to me in my life. It's like my little escape at the end of all of the insanity. 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And Charlie was a political person who was deeply interested in coalition building and in getting the right people in office because he knew that vast improvements are possible politically. But he also knew that politics is not the final answer. it can't answer the deepest questions actually that the only real solution is Jesus politics is great saving the country is great but the only real solution to a broken society is Jesus is God and as Tucker so eloquently pointed out in the later years of Charlie's life this ended up coming out in the speeches to follow Charlie's main passion in life was not just to own the libs or to tell the truth and do a Smackdown viral moment on X. In fact, I don't even think Smackdown own the lib stuff was really his passion in life. That's what the left might like you to believe. His real passion was to introduce people to God and specifically people who could make a huge impact on the world whose repentance and whose running back to proclaim their faith boldly even if they've never done that in their career in public service would end up impacting millions upon millions of people. He understood from the book of Proverbs, Proverbs 29:2, when the righteous rule, people rejoice. When righteous people are given God-given ordinance of power, the people will rejoice because our society will be rooted in what is good and true and beautiful. I don't think I ever in my wildest dreams could have predicted the speeches that came out of the mouths of the members of the United States government yesterday. I expected this to be kind of a rah rah rah goan party. Go MAGA conservatism. Charlie's great. Now let's do our thing. Get back out there and put your red hat on thing with a political rally. And that is not at all the tone that came out yesterday. It was a beautiful solemn memorial honoring Charlie, grieving with Erica and making sure the Kirk family knows that we are with her. But almost also like a hold up the mirror introspective moment for the Secretary of War, for the Secretary of Health and Human Services, for the Secretary of State, for the Vice President of the United States, for the President of the United States to look within themselves and say, "I have not been who I want to be. I don't proclaim my faith loudly enough. I don't fearlessly go out into a world rejecting my values and say them anyway enough. I'm afraid of politics. I'm afraid of the political backlash. And never again will I be afraid because of how forever I have been changed because of Charlie Kirk's life and most recently his death. I need to be a righteous ruler if I'm serious about using this position that God has given me to impact positive change in the world. The Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, used his time on stage to literally just explain the gospel in a handful of seconds. Listen to this. I hope one of the things they take from this is that the movement Charlie Kirk led and started and gave fuel to was about politics, but not only about politics. It was deeper. It was broader. And I would say that taking the liberty, but I'm confident he would agree. One of the things he wants us to take away from this, from all of this, is the following. his deep belief that we were all created, every single one of us, before the beginning of time, by the hands of the God of the universe, an all powerful God who loved us and created us for the purpose of living with him in eternity. But then sin entered the world and separated us from our creator. And so God took on the form of a man and came down and lived among us and he suffered like men and he died like a man. But on the third day, he rose unlike any mortal man. And then, listen to those cheers. And to prove any doubters wrong, he ate with his disciples so they could see and they touched his wounds. He didn't rise as a ghost or as a spirit, but his flesh. And then he rose to the heaven, but he promised he would return. And he will. And when he returns, because he took on that death, because he carried that cross, we were freed from the sin that separated us from him. And when he returns, there will be a new heaven and a new earth, and we will all be together. And we are going to have a great reunion there again with Charlie and all the people we love. Thank you, and God bless you. [Music] And that response, that standing ovation, those cheers that you can barely hear yourself think over every single time Jesus Christ was mentioned and the gospel was mentioned yesterday. Every time an arena of 73,000 people leapt to their feet, clapping and cheering and giving thanks to God. That's the Secretary of State for the United States of America. in the line for presidency of the United States, using his handful of minutes on stage to honor his friend, someone he had come to know quite closely over the last few years, Charlie Kirk, to not make it about him and to not make it about Charlie, but instead to make it about God because that is the ultimate battle that we are fighting, says the Secretary of State of the United States of America. Every speech was this impactful and again there was not a dry eye in the House. the entire day. I mean, we were just so moved by the Holy Spirit. We we could feel tangibly God working in this room, especially for people that had come who might be really interested in politics, but maybe had never been to church before. They had never heard any of this before. They never heard a worship song before. They had never read the Bible before. They had no idea what any of this meant to them. You could see in the eyes of people that they would never be the same after powerful righteous people, righteous rulers taking their time to empty of themselves and to instead try to serve others and serve God. My two favorite moments of the entire memorial, three actually. So, we'll get to the third here in a second, but my my two really powerful moments that stand out to me from yesterday came from the vice president of the United States and of course Charlie's widow, Erica Kirk, my beautiful friend. But JD Vance's entire speech was amazing. We could watch all 15 20 minutes of it together. I want us to watch this one moment because he's having this look in the mirror reckoning moment with himself that yes, I am deeply Christian. Everything that I do is rooted in Christian values and Christian faith and my relationship with God. But I'm embarrassed of the fact that I haven't said enough about it yet. And that's always going to be the most important thing to me. So, we're never going back. Listen to his words. You know, I was telling somebody backstage that I always felt a little uncomfortable talking about my faith in public. As much as I loved the Lord and as much as it it was an important part of my life, I have talked more about Jesus Christ in the past two weeks than I have my entire time in public life. I have talked more about Jesus Christ in the past two weeks than I have in my entire life. Not about him. It's not even about Charlie. It's about our movement, our country, our government, and our world. Taking a step back, taking a deep breath, looking at the life of this extraordinary young man who is not here with us today because of evil and asking what was it all about for him? Why did he get out of bed in the morning? Why was he ready? And he expressed this to many people ready if evil did strike to give his life for this. It wasn't about who was running for president. It wasn't about American history alone. 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She talks about what's next for Turning Point, of course. But by far the most moving moment where you could hear a pin drop in an arena of 73,000 people is when Erica Kirk said this. My husband Charlie, he wanted to save young men just like the one who took his life. [Applause] [Music] [Applause] That young man, that young man on the cross, our savior said, "Father, forgive them for they not know what they do." That man, that young man, I forgive him. [Applause] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] I forgive him because it was what Christ did and is what Charlie would do. The answer to hate is not hate. The answer we know from the gospel is love and always love. Love for our enemies and love for those who persecute us. It hits the exact same. That's like the fifth time that I've watched that. Total tangent side note here for a second. The left would like for you to believe and our culture would like for you to believe that strong women are angry. That they're hardened. They're tough. They lack vulnerability. They lack femininity. They lack a softness to them. Can anyone with a soul watch that clip, watch that moment, let alone be there in that room? I mean, you saw how people were viscerally reacting in such a powerful way to what she just said. Can anyone watch that moment and genuinely tell me that that's not the strongest woman you've ever seen in your life? And yet, she's the exact opposite of what culture tells you is empowering. She's soft. She's quick to forgive. She gave that speech 11 days after her husband was violently assassinated to say, "I forgive you." She's vulnerable. She's crying in front of literally a 100red million people who were projected to be watching that live across various streams yesterday. But she's authentic. She realizes if this was just about me, of course I would hate. Of course, I would never forgive, but it's not because the answer to hate is always more love. And the answer to our brokenness and to sin is always God. You could genuinely, I know I've said it four or five times, but I think it bears repeating. You could genuinely feel the Holy Spirit move through every one of these speakers, through every single person sitting in the crowd. I have never sat in a room that felt like that ever. And I know it's not going to be the only room that I sit in in the next year or so as this revival sweeps an entire generation throughout the world, but certainly also transforms our country. I mean, for goodness sakes, the White House, the official White House Instagram and Tik Tok account ended up posting this after the event yesterday. Heat. Heat. [Music] Heat. Heat. [Music] The White House. The White House posted that. People, what? We're back, baby. Oh, we're so back. If this is what people call Christian nationalism, I want this injected into my veins every 5 seconds, okay? Because this is not forcing anything upon anyone. This is one nation under God. This is who we were designed to be. And I have never felt prouder of being an American. I've never felt prouder of fighting in this conservative movement. I've never felt prouder of supporting this administration. And it's not going to be easy. It's not going to be easy for any of us, but it's certainly not going to be easy for them in positions of of elected power. Before I transition into some thoughts on that, I want to leave you with one of the more poignant things said about how we move forward from here. Because I think it still is hitting all of us who know Charlie in waves every 15 minutes to every few hours that he's really gone. That he's not just going to walk out on stage at the next thing or host his podcast tomorrow or shoot us a text with a random Bible verse. That he really is gone from this life. He's more alive than we are, but he's gone from this life. And Secretary Kennedy had a really powerful anecdote to share with the audience. Uh all 73,000 of us and all 100 million of you that watched that live yesterday that got brushed over because it wasn't one of the flashier things that was said, but I think was one of the more meaningful things that was said. He asked his mother in the wake of his brother dying, "Does the pain of losing someone, does the hole that they leave really ever go away?" And of course, his mom lost her husband and her brother-in-law to assassinations a lot like this. And here's what she had to say in response. A few years ago, my brother David died. And I asked my mother, "Does the hole that they leave in you when they die, does it ever get any smaller?" And she said to me, "It never gets any smaller. And our job is to grow ourselves bigger around the whole. And we do that by taking the best qualities, the best most admirable character traits of the person that died and integrate them with restraint, with discipline, with practice into our own character. And in doing that, we make ourselves larger and the whole gets proportionally smaller. But we also give a kind of immortality to the person who left us because their work continues through us. Their work continues through us. And it's up to us to take the best qualities and the best attributes of the person who died and diligently, willingly work them into our own lives to carry their torch forward. That's how we make our lives bigger proportionally around the hole that is left when they're missing from us and when they're missing from our movement. That's what we need to do with Charlie. I've come to realize and appreciate more in the last couple of days than ever before in my work as a commentator and a creator that freedom, something I say I fight for every day. It's something I think we all say we fight for every day. Freedom can't just mean our right to do whatever we want. I think we've tried that in the last couple of years and it hasn't worked out very well for the country. 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But it was also so beyond empowering. It was a wake-up call for everyone sitting in that audience, even if you were the president of the United States, that we can no longer be lukewarm about truth and lukewarm about our faith. We can no longer just quietly pray in our rooms at home and fail to bring our prayers out to the public. We cannot idally expect someone else to morally lead our society. We have to. And especially because the boldest and the loudest and the most fearless and courageous advocate for real freedom grounded in truth is no longer with us. All of us have to work together to proportionately make this movement so much bigger than we ever thought possible. There's a unique set of circumstances on those in elected positions of power to get us there. And I think if you can be praying for anyone more fervently, except maybe the Kirk family, they deserve all of your most fervent prayers. But if you can pray for anyone right behind them, I think it should be our elected officials, the people that God has put into positions of righteous rulers, as we talked about earlier, to do what is right, to fight for God-given liberties, to preserve our basic, most dignified human rights and to bring faith, a groundedness in faith into public life again, more than we've ever seen in our lifetime. because we'll be very clear about this over the next several years and I think it's going to get very obvious even more than it already has been that this fight is not against one side or the other. This fight is not against the rulers and the working class. This fight is against good and evil and evil is mad as hell. The demons are shrieking. Satan is screaming in the wake of what we saw yesterday at Charlie Kirk's memorial. And all 100 million of you that maybe heard the gospel for the first time, that sung worship songs for the first time, that listened to the most powerful men in the world and women, share their unshakable faith and testimony in Christ. Evil is going to rear its ugly head and it's up to us to make sure that it never wins the war. Every battle we have to show up to. Every fight our leaders need to be on the front lines of and we need to support them in any way that we can. If we don't, stuff like what's happening in the UK and the European Union is going to start happening here in the United States where, by the way, just total coincidence that's happened this week. I just found out that in the United Kingdom and the European Union, they have banned the Bible app. Straight up, not even making this up. Totally forgot we had this in the lineup for the show today. You can no longer download the most popular Bible app onto your phone in the UK or the EU because of the radically totalitarian digital services act, which if you're watching from across the pond, you guys know is meant to protect you from hate speech and misinformation, things that are constitutionally protected for us as Americans, but not for you under this unbelievably disgusting dystopian law. I think we have a tweet pulled up about this about how people are trying to download the Bible Gateway app. It's the most popular online Bible website and app in the world. It's used by millions of Christians around the world. And instead of letting you see the content, when you Google if you can download it or you just try to open the app, it says that it is unavailable in the UK and EU specifically due to the online safety act and the equivalent EU legislation, which I'm pretty sure is called the digital services act. And sorry, can't use our services anymore. Some brave soul did a little barely their investigation. took one Google search to figure all of this out and found out that you can still get Let's pull this tweet up. Can't get the Bible, but you can still download the Quran in the UK and the EU. That's what happens when our leaders lose a groundedness in faith. That's what happens when we forget our tie to the divine. That's what happens when we label anything rooted in what is good and true and beautiful misinformation and hate speech. You end up with disastrous totalitarian authoritarian dystopian all of the ins policies that destroy your most basic fundamental human rights and destroy your lifeline connection with God with something bigger than yourself. It's obvious to me, totally obvious to me that the Bible would be considered misinformation and hate speech. Although, I don't even know if George Orwell could have thought it up himself as one of the most dystopian examples of British and European culture. But here we are. So pray, pray fervently for our leaders, not just in the United States, but in the UK and the EU as well, and for everyone who is missing a link to the divine and to something bigger than themselves because of our lack of faith as a society. That courage to speak out, to seek the truth, to say the hard thing even when it's labeled hate speech and misinformation, can't just be isolated to our leaders either. Tommy Robinson tweeted something a few days ago that really stuck with me and is still battling around in my head as one of the craziest things I've seen in 2025. He tallied up the data from the number of people arrested for online comments for the year that data is most recently available, which is 2023. And Britain, the UK, has by far, let's keep this up, the most arrests per year related to speech issues, far more than Syria or even Iran. The United Kingdom in 2023 arrested more than 12,000 people for online comments that were considered hate speech or misinformation. Uh yikes. Iran arrested 100 versus 12,000. This is what happens when we lose our connection to God. This is what happens when our governments forget that governments are supposed to be under the sovereign rule of God. This is what happens when we stop having hard conversations. When we stop bringing the truth to people. When we stop seeing people like Charlie Kirk have the courage to stand up and to fight back. Evil reigns supreme. And evil is rearing its ugly head this week all over the world. Are we as Americans comfortable letting it get to the bygone conclusion of what's happened in the UK? I sure as hell am not. So, it's time for us to pick up Charlie's microphone, to pick up his torch, and to run faster and scream louder than even he ever did. But that won't be easy. Even here in the United States, there are already other elected leaders in our country doing everything they can to shut down our movement as well. even from inside the church. Favorite uh congresswoman of mine. She's so great. Ilhan Omar over the weekend said that everything you see from Charlie is terrible and evil because he was an evil guy. went viral on I think it was a CNN clip for saying that, but then also took it upon herself to make the church about herself, speaking at a Lutheran church and saying, "If you're honoring the legacy of Charlie Kirk, you are rewriting history for the bad guys." I do believe those of you who are interested in writing this hateful man's history are full of thank if you are interested in honoring Charlie's legacy rewriting her version of history which is not hard to understand that it's a totally different reality based on the media she likely consumes you are full of Sh. I don't even want to dignify the quote. It's not going to be easy, but it's going to be worth it. A different member of the United States government, Representative Mikey Cheryl, ended up sharing this statement over the weekend. It's a long one, but I want you to read this. Charlie Kirk had vile dissenting views. Charlie Kirk was advocating for a Christian nationalist government and to roll back the rights of women and black people, none of which are true, by the way, that flies in the face of every value I hold dear and that I fight for. Hence why I cannot vote for a resolution supporting Charlie Kirk's life. And now President Trump is the problem associated with all of these racist anti-American views. It's hypocrisy coming from Trump and his acolytes. The language that they're using all comes from a very common starting point. And I think you're smart enough to piece that together for yourself. But we have a choice to make as a society. And it has never been more obvious to me than it was yesterday. sitting in an arena of 73,000 people worshiping God, crying over the completely senseless violence that is wreaking havoc across our country and praying desperately for us to all have the courage to tell the truth to a very angry, very sinister, very evil world. Path one. Path two, let the demons win. Which way? I think it depends on us and it depends on our willingness to stand up and say, "Here I am, Lord. Send me." That doesn't necessarily mean subjecting yourself to a death sentence. Although on the more extreme cases, it might. It certainly meant that for Charlie. But it might mean being uncomfortable a little bit. It might mean having the tough conversations in a couple of months around the family Thanksgiving dinner table. In fact, it should. It might mean evaluating where your kids go to school, where you're going to church, or if you're going to church on Sunday morning, what media you're consuming, how you're spending your free time, who are your closest group of friends, and how are their values impacting you every day? Who are you voting for? And take it wildly seriously because we are on the precipice of evil. Are we going to let it get that far? Or are we willing to stand up and have the courage of Charlie Kirk? [Music]
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