Now, here's the real evidence of Turning Point USA that they don't want you to know. [music] >> They just shot Charlie. >> They just shot Charlie. They just shot Charlie. [cheering] >> He's dead. >> God help him. >> Shame on you for criticizing Tero for his reaction. Like and subscribe to the channel. Hit the bell so you get notifications anytime I go live or make a video. Make sure you're still subscribed to this channel. Let's get into this. Every time you watch me when I talk about a police shooting, when I talk about any of these things, I [music] make sure that I do my due diligence first and I rule out all the stuff first before I present it to you. It makes no sense for me say what if. The what if was a what if when the what if before the what if was what if and then get you all riled up and you know what? Wait till my next show. Wait till the next clip. Wait till the next post. I KNOW ALL THE TEA, BUT I don't want to tell y'all THE TEA NOW CUZ I WANT TO KEEP MAKING MONEY OFF OF YOU. So I'mma drip drip dripity and drip drip drip to the end. So let's talk about um Taro. Now they put his name out there. I'mma call his name Tero. is one of the nicest, coolest, faithful guys that I have ever met in my life. I've been working with Tero since I first started Turning Point. When he first started, I have done probably 20 or 30 events with Tero. When I was going on tour for the last two years on all these college campuses, many of them Tara was there and Ter set up the tent. He put on my lapel mic. He monitored the cameras and he endured for three hours every time listening to people that say the craziest things you can ever think you can hear of. He did the same thing with Charlie. Ter is a good dude and they now are using him to make money and get you all riled up. Ter never released this video publicly. That was his own personal video that he decided to make when the rubber hit the road. His friend died in front of him. And one of the things that came to his mind was probably recording his last recording ever cuz he don't know if somebody's going to come and do a rampage. Everybody's running. There's shots fired. We don't know if there's multiple asalants. And Ter decided to do this. Ter will never portray Charlie Kirk. I will put my life on Ter. I can't name these other people. I don't know. I if I don't know whether you would do well you will you'll betray Charlie or not. I can't speak for you. But I know Ter. He would never betray Charlie. He's not a combat veteran. So, of course, he's going to do things that now in hindsight some people think is mysterious. When they say he stepped on the chair and he took down the cameras, you put your thinker cap on real quick. The shooting has been over for a period of time now. Now, you see some of the FBI agents are showing up. He's taken down. Would you want him to leave it up there in perpetuity? He take it down. Give it over to the FBI. But let's play this clip real quick of Ter that people are now blasting him over because I'm going to defend him to no end. And I don't care if you like it or not to be honest. I'mma stand by. I'm a loyal person. I'mma stand by people that I can vouch for. Wrote a clip. >> They just shot Charlie. They just shot Charlie. They just shot Charlie. There's your shot, Charlie. >> He's dead. God help her. >> Shame on you. I'm looking at you. Shame on you for criticizing Tero for his reaction. Were you there? Did you witness Charlie die in front of you? And and I don't want to hear nobody say he he prematurely said, "Did you see the video?" My team saw the video the the the day it happened. I didn't see it. I was on the live stream praying cuz I saw the one at a distance. They watched it and it it popped up over here and they go, "Oh no. Oh my god." I said, "Don't show it to me because I actually cared about Charlie. It it it hurt me. I cried on my live stream. My wife had nobody's ever seen me cry before. I cried on my live stream cuz I love Charlie and I didn't want to see him die. But I knew that something was bad when they when they gave the reaction right over here. And when I later watched the close-up video, I said, "There's no way he lived it through that. He died instantly." And and now the medical examiner and all the reports have come out. Yeah, he died instantly. It severed his spinal cord. He got a he got a pulse at the hospital, but he had already he it was not connected. So the pulse was they got the heart beating again because it's electrical, but there was no purpose of the heartbeating because the brain wasn't connected to the body. It severed all of that. And me being a person who know something about ballistics, it don't matter if it was a 5.56 or a 308 or or a 306. When you get shot in the neck like that, the cavity that it creates is everything is eviscerated in the size of my fist through Charlie's neck. There's no way he survived that. Imagine watching it in person and seeing blood come out of his neck and his body stiff and his eyes roll back. Ter knew he was gone. You didn't know cuz you wasn't there. I'm watching his real reaction of fear, anxiety, stress. He don't know what to do. What would you do? Oh, you wasn't there. Oh, you've never been in a situation like this before. I've seen cops act like this at a crime scene that we've done five or six times already. But it's cute for you to judge behind your TV screen, behind your cell phone, in your mama base, wherever y'all doing your thing at than to have a heart for this man. Your your reaction should be dang. Like when I just looked at this, I'M LIKE MY HEART BROKE for him because I know him and I know how much he loved Charlie. You foolish person that will judge him in that way. So if you want to participate, get you one of these shirts or one of these merch items and your purchase will go towards the Kirk family. A lot of people say, "Well, they already rich. I'm pretty sure Charlie Kirk was a multi-millionaire." But one thing that you guys don't realize is that once you are done with your life and you can't bring in income anymore, that is a that's detrimental to a person's family. Charlie Kirk had a show that was tremendously successful. It's a it's a doggy dog world. They're not going to keep his show going. They're going to cut his show after probably another week or so and they're going to put somebody else in that spot. You're talking millions of dollars coming into his family that's no longer there. Unrealized gains. Charlie Kirk probably would have wrote 40 more books. Charlie Kirk should have lived another 50 years and his children and his wife are not going to have that unrealized gain from Charlie Kirk's legacy moving forward. So, this is a contributing um option for us that love him, that really love him and that care about his family. This is a way that you can do it. Go to tatstore.com. tatamstore.com. Let's go to Let's go to Mikey. I didn't know Mikey as well. I knew Rob. I didn't know Mike as well, but every time I saw the kid, he's an innocent, friendly, go-lucky kid. If any of these guys were confronted in a fist fight, they would they probably would freeze up. They not built for this stuff. These guys are not tactical like his team. They not ready for this. I think we got a closer clip. Remember the one that I said that I didn't like the guy's commentary? Did we get we get that one? >> Yeah. cuz I want to play that one cuz it's it's a closer look at at Mikey because right here you can't really see Mikey because he's up under the tent. But in the one that we're going to put together for you, um you it's a close view of Mikey and you can see Mikey looking at Charlie and you can see Charlie gets shot and you can see Mikey do like this while he's looking at Charlie and Charlie tumbles over the thing and he goes behind the tent. And I got evidence and facts about when he actually called Erica and when he called his dad because Turning Point USA came out and Andrew um did a post or they did a live show on Charlie's show where they explained the moment in which he called Erica and the moment that he called uh his dad Rob McCoy >> and I I can't even remember those moments very clearly. I wasn't even there. Mikey was too talked about that and he he and I asked him I was like, "Do you even remember the moments after?" He's like, "I can't I can't even really remember. I know I called Erica. I know I called my wife. I know I called my dad. I can't even really remember the the steps I took. I can't He But here's the last thing I want to make a point of." And Charlie cuz Charlie had given me similar instructions along the years. He said, "If anything ever happens to me, you call Erica. and he drilled that into Mikey's brain so that when this moment of trauma happened that he turned around and he knew he had to do it. And by the way, I just last thing because this is part of the the video allegations here is that they think they they're alleging that he was on the phone immediately. He was not. He was taking social videos which he would send to our group chat which we would then put on Charlie's social while the event was happening so you could see like the crowd come in or his interactions. And we were only two questions into this event. So he was still getting it out to all the chats he needed to do, which he did at every event. He turns around and it was so blaringly loud. I'm told, you would know this better than this is what I'm told. It was so blaringly loud and he was so shell shocked. He put his fingers in his ear, but his phone was still in his hand. He walks away and he's I mean >> not even not even walk I want because people are talking about that the way it was is we had a cordoned off area with you know rates so you could had controlled access >> all the people when this happens they all get the idea we should leave before we are shot and so there's a little narrow gap that I think people it's not really walking it's that everyone has to slow up to get through this little narrow choke point to get out of the area and >> anyways well the point is he walks briskly it does I don't even care if he's walking, running, whatever, because again, the most traumatic thing you could imagine had just happened to him. My brain fried. I cannot imagine what was going through your guys' head being on the scene and seeing it and knowing again, the security guys are jumping in. He turns and he like I'm telling you Mikey that day turned into a general on a field marshalling the troops going but but like for a second there obviously he didn't know what to do and then he clicked into gear eventually. It was amazing. Mikey was a heroic figure on that day and I just I really want anyone who finds like these narratives attacking him to be romantly credible to really really stop and think about what you are doing because what you are doing is bad and it is gross and it is a choice and [music] it's a choice you shouldn't make >> and it debunks and unless you silly and you just want to believe anything you read because you like the person or the people or whoever is talking about it. This is a clear indication or debunking of somebody saying he didn't see Charlie die and that he somehow got on the phone. Ladies and gentlemen, there's no way in the world that right after Charlie gets shot, he somehow go call somebody on the phone and talk to him. Right after he got shot, it didn't happen. when he was in the parking lot down the road past Charlie's vehicle, he probably made a phone call which was verified from the guy that was on Charlie Kirk's show just just recently. Here's other rumors of people saying his his team is stumbling over the crime scene. Wrote a clip real quick. [music] Pause it. Let's talk about crime scene for a minute. Some of you guys are watching CSI and you don't know what a crime scene is. Now, the crime scene, the majority of the crime scene is where the guy took the shot at him going up and down the stairs, taking DNA from the staircase and taking shoe impressions from the ground. That is majority of the crime scene and evidence. Charlie getting shot in the neck. The only evidence there will be the cameras and it'll be Charlie's person because there is no exit wound. So Charlie's person and the cameras is the only crime scene preservation that you would need in a crime scene like this. You don't need his chair. The chair is not a part of the crime scene. It has blood on it. That's not that they're not going and and taking blood samples from a chair. The only thing that could have been a foot in this situation would be the cameras that showed evidence of what happened and Charlie Kirk's person. Everything else is irrelevant to walk through grass. This is not a crime scene. If somebody steps over the crime scene, it's not a crime scene. Or stepping over grass and and in in the table with the hats. That's not a crime scene. And there's no real preservation in stepping on grass. Just so you guys know, there's no evidence that they took from the grass. Maybe they look for an exit wound. They knew immediately there was no exit wound, so they weren't looking for a bullet. and maybe they canvas the area, but at the same time when things are happening instantaneously, there's going to be people that walk around the crime scene anyway. It just like when when a guy goes into a church and starts shooting random people, everybody's running and scrambling and picking up their kids and the kid is a crime scene. You still take the kid and you take him to safety, you take him to the hospital. All of that stuff can be considered mobile crime scene and it doesn't mean you're destroying a crime scene because you take your kid to safety or do CPR on a person. Now you're contaminating the person. But let's go back to the clip because we got it available. Clip 602. 602. >> That's the same. >> It is. It zooms in. Okay, >> let's go with it. They had it already. It was my fault. I think there's going to be a part here that zooms in. So, okay. I think it gets closer. It's five. Okay. Now, five is a lot, right? I'm going to give you credit. Do you imagine there have been in America over the last 10 years? >> Counting or not counting gang violence. Great. >> He looks at him. He He see Charlie gets shot. Look at Mikey. Mikey looks over at him and Mikey's going like this. Walks behind the tent like this. Mikey's not on the phone somehow mysteriously dialing somebody up. He goes way back there probably before he gets on the phone to call. And people say, "All right, I think that's good." [cheering] People say he abandoned Charlie. What he what are you supposed to do? Get on top of Charlie and do CPR? They got a team of people that are there to protect Charlie and to render aid to Charlie and to excavate Char or take him to the car and take him to the hospital. It's not your place to jump in the middle of what the professionals are supposed to be doing. They talk about this all the time. I guarantee you if anything happened to Charlie, we're going to get on Charlie. Let us do our business. They're the ones that got guns. They're the ones that going to protect him. They're the ones that gonna protect him for follow-up shooters. is not Mikey or not Tero or none of the video guys. Get out of the way. The guy from Rei and you can go back and look at this because people don't understand what they're looking at. They see a guy come in, they go, "Look, he passed off something to him. That guy wasn't on the security team. That was a guy from Wy, which is one of their sponsors. He probably came in to try to see if he could help." And they like, "Get out the way, dude. We got this. Go to the car. Go do something there. We're going to take care of Charlie here." And the reason that I want to point these things out because you got people online trying to act like something is something is not nothing. Now, this is the question that you should ask the people when you go on their social media platforms and ask them what they're saying. You go, "Okay, if he did call immediately, what are you accusing him of? What are you accusing Mikey of? That that he was terrified that he was scared? that he followed protocol from the security team that he ran off somewhere and called somebody on the phone. What is is that a crime? Is that that does that mean he had anything to do with Charlie getting shot? What are you accusing Tara of? Cuz Terara goes behind a building, uploads a video that he never put online and never been for anybody to see. Was his own personal video. Well, what are you accusing him of? What's the accusation? He made that video because he really didn't believe Charlie was dead. Like, what are you saying? He prematurely said Charlie was dead. Are are you saying that he did that on purpose? What are you saying? Like, you can't just come out and say these people are suspicious. You have to articulate what is the suspicion that you're accusing them of of doing. Freaking out when somebody got killed in front of them. Is that Let me tell you why people are disingenuous. If you really cared and you really wanted to know why they reacted that way, what I would do, a person acting in good faith, I would interview a psychologist, a person who understand human behavior. So before I put it out to the audience that all of this is weird, I would invite somebody on to talk about the stress psychologically that goes on when people see things that are traumatic. And then therefore, I could I will put it in context for you. So then you have a the context around why people may act a certain way after a shooting and then you can make your own decision. I won't say unilaterally as somebody that don't understand psychology to just say that's suspicious. H that's weird. That's bizarre. Why would he act like that? No. Bring an expert on to explain why he would act like that. I have seen people, the lady, I'm going to give y'all three examples of where people flipped out to no end. On the freeway, I19, I go to a call, two guys racing each other, one on a motorcycle, one in a car. The guy on the motorcycle gets clipped. He fall off the motorcycle at 90 miles per hour. He gets run over by three cars. The last person that ran him over ran his head over. And of course, you know what happened with that? The woman who ran him over was hysterical on the side of the road. She could not speak. She was crying. She couldn't talk. She couldn't dial 911. She couldn't think. She couldn't think. She was distraught. You go to the underpass at Grant and I 10. A guy was going to work. He was a security guard. A drunk driver plowed into him head on. Killed him instantly. Well, it was killing him because he died slowly in front of the witness. I I checked his post. He was dead by the time I got there, which was like 2 minutes. But the witness that saw him that was watching him beg for his life before he eventually expired was inconsolable. She couldn't even mention, she couldn't even talk straight on a 911 call. We had no idea what she was talking about cuz she couldn't talk and she had nothing to do with the accident. She just witnessed the guy die in front of her. I mean, I could go on and on. I mean, there's there's there's a lot more. But when you witness something that's traumatizing, it it it scars you and your body reacts to it where you can't control what you do and say and what you think. A lot of times people don't even remember what happened for another for 48 72 hours after an incident like this. They don't even remember what they did. It's all fight or flight autopilot human reaction that they can't even control most of the time. You ask a person in the traumat and everybody in in this live stream that have ever had anything traumatic happen to them. You know what I'm talking about. Why do I why am I so confident? Because when when I was on the SWAT team, they brought in psychologists who would talk to us about the way the brain works. So when we go and we do certain stuff in training, we understand that the brain is tricky. We had a scenario on the SWAT team where we enter the room and we put a they put a gun on the table. Like 60% of the people never saw that gun. Matter of fact, not only did they not see the gun, they looked at the table and they say the gun wasn't on the table. Why does that happen to the human brain? Under stress, your brain would omit things to preserve your life because the threat is the person in front of you that you have to shoot. In that scenario, when we entered the house, the gun is irrelevant to the threat level. So, your brain will omit the gun off of the table. Your brain did. Your brain saw a table with no gun on it because your mind begin to play tricks on you because it's trying to save your life. That's why when people come out and they go, it was all in slow motion. That's because your brain have the capacity to rapidly process information. Your brain don't normally operate like that. So, it rapidly processes information so that you can form methodical movements under stress uncontrollable to you. And this is why people have these weird experiences. This is why investigators don't interview people on the spot a lot of the times or they interview you and then they follow up and interview you a couple days later because then your memory comes back. Then you begin to smell and see things and you begin to remember what you did, how you reacted. Most people in the traumatic situations, they watch the video of what they did, they wouldn't even believe they did it. I did that. I ran all the way over there. It looked like I just walked. I ran. I I covered my ears and I turned away from it. I don't even remember none of that. I put my life on it that that Mikey at least when it first happened, he didn't remember none of that. I bet you I bet you I bet you almost any money that's in my bank account right now that Ter didn't quite remember everything that happened. He probably don't remember how he got his phone out. He probably barely remember that he even recorded that. I'm telling you, it happened to me one time when I was fighting a guy. He had cut his throat from here to here. He had glass in his hand. He attacked me at the front door and then I gave him that work. But while I was giving him the work, I have no idea that I pulled out my pepper spray and I sprayed him. I would never use my pepper spray. We all know never uses pepper spray because everybody get doubts with it and we all got doubts with it. But for some reason, I got it out of the clip, got it and sprayed the guy and put it back in and didn't I could not explain why I did it or how I did it. It was training that took over when I did it. Now, if you really care about Charlie, if you really care about the people that you knew, you like, you work with, why wouldn't you get a psychologist on to explain the mental stress that people do and why they react the way they do? But instead, people rather get you riled up and create conspiracies in your mind. Why don't you interview somebody that's a former FBI agent that that's not associated with the FBI, Frank Turk did, and I'm going to interview the same guy he interviewed because the guy goes and tells you protocol. This is why we can't tell you this. We're not hiding anything from you. We're not trying to lie to you. It's just that during the investigation, there's certain things we cannot say to you, even if we wanted to. Now, when you go out and make a statement, and this is for anybody that does this, if you're acting in good faith and you're trying to get information from Turning Point USA or anybody else that's a witness, you know they can't talk to you because they have a gag order. Anybody that's a material witness in this case has a gag order. So, you have been court ordered to not disclose or say anything about the case to anybody that's not a detective or anybody that's not associated with the court that you've gotten approval to. So when you go out on a limb and you go, "Why are they not disclosing anything? Why is Turning Point being secretive? Why are they not show?" If you know what happened, why don't you just come out and say it? Because there's a gag order. You want people to violate the gag order and go to jail. Because somebody want instantaneous glorification for their own personal endeavor. Instead, you need to wait on the trial. And when the trial occurs and you see all the evidence that the that the FBI has or they don't have, you get all of their witnesses cross-examined by the defense. And when there's a conclusion made, then you can go back and SAY, "OH, WAIT a minute. You didn't you didn't have real information or you lied or didn't lie or you omitted." That's when you go through and say these things. People are asking me, Brandon, why are you not asking questions? What question you want me to ask? I don't have text messages. I don't have DNA evidence. I wasn't at the crime scene. I didn't go door to door asking people for their uh ring cameras. I didn't review any ring camera evidence. I didn't talk to Robins or Robinson. The FBI talked to him. I didn't talk to him. I didn't interview his mama. I didn't interview his dad. I didn't interview a transgender person. I didn't interview any of these people. I don't know what they actually said. We only get a glimpse of what may have been put out on the social media and some of it is lies. But when you didn't talk to these people, how do you make a judgment of whether or not it's true or not? And how do you know this, Brandon? Cuz I've done plenty of investigations and I know for a fact we don't tell the public everything cuz we can't. We are preparing to prosecute a person for one of the most egregious crimes that have happened in our lifetime. Our lifetime. My my age demographic. We're not worried about you getting views on your social media account. And and and for people to jump to the conclusion to say he didn't do it. He didn't do it. He confessed to his parents that he did it. They turned him in. His parents turned him in. Do we not? Are we Are we Are we Are we forgetting that that happened? I'm just throwing it out there. Are we Are we acting as if his parents did not turn him in? The cops did not find him. The cops did not find him. They put a picture out. Mama said, "That's my son." On that picture, mama called dad and confirmed and said, "That's that's that's our son." And they didn't call the I don't think they communicated with police initially. They communicated with him. And according to them, he was when he wanted to take his own life and his dad said, "Don't do it. Come home. We'll deal with this together." He comes home, which is all which is what they told they told the FBI. He called his neighbor who then called the sheriff who the sheriff said on national TV and and uh verified this that they would he would turn himself in but he did not want the SWAT team to come to the house. So they coordinated an effort for him to turn himself in with his parents and a sheriff deputy admitting that he did it. Now, there's a difference between admitting that you committed a crime and filing not guilty in the court of law. That's two different things. You could be guilty. You can confess and you can say, "I plead not guilty in the court of law." Why would a person plead not guilty even though they know they did it? It's the same reason why a person would defend a person that they know did it in the because it's a job. They don't want him to get the death penalty. I think his family don't want him to get the death penalty. This is why they plead not guilty. Let me give you another example for for for the people who actually care about this. Why do you think the defense is saying we don't want cameras in the courtroom? Why? If he's innocent now, the his defense has not come out in public and said he was innocent. They've not said whatsoever that he's getting framed, that he's innocent, and that any of this. His defense team has not said any of that. They have not held a press conference and said our client is being mistreated. the FBI, they haven't said any of that. You know why? Because they probably know he did it, but they need to defend him and humanize him. So they say, "We don't want cameras," which was denied. The cameras will be in the courtroom. They say, "We want him to be able to dress in regular civilian clothes." Why? Because they want him to be presentable as human to the jurors. Then they requested, "Don't show him entering and exiting from the the trial because they want to humanize him publicly because then when they go for that death penalty, the public is going to be against the death penalty of a guy that they humanized and made him out to be a normal person. If he's in a jumpsuit with shackles, which the judge granted that they won't show or they won't film sha him being in shackles, although they will have him handcuffed. That's why the defense wanted that to be because they need him to be normal. They're not trying to get him off. They need him to be considered to be normal so that people can treat so they can get a fair trial. That's not enough for a defense to do that when that's your objective. There is a mountain of evidence against him. And I would argue if you really cared about justice for Charlie Kirk, then you can have your conspiracies, but also at some point you need to address the fact that he may have done this. Why is there no uh uh uh uh podcasts, video series, people coming out explaining why he could have done this? There's so much evidence against this guy that if they didn't found if they did not find the bullet, he would go to prison for the rest of his life. For sure. If they didn't find any bullet in Charlie Kirk, he would go to prison for the rest of his life because of all of the circumstantial evidence. When your mother identifies you on a on a call, I mean on a on a from a photo that's grainy and they and you got to think the FBI got they said 15,000 leads the like two or three days after Charlie died. They're going to put all these leads together and say out of all this, there's one family that said this was my son. They got DNA on the trigger, DNA on the ammo. They got him jumping off the building, shoe impressions of a shoe that he owned, DNA, uh, a palm impression when he landed on the ground, the palm that matched his palm. So, the person you see jumping out the building had a palm impression that they have submitted as evidence that matches his his palm. They got him running through the community. They got him ditching a gun. They got him communicating on Discord. They got him communicating with the training. They interviewed the transgender person. What do you think the transgender person said to them? You think the transgender gender person said he didn't do it? It was a fake text message. You think that's what he said? That's not what they wrote in the affidavit. When [snorts] you write an improbable cause statement in affidavit and any of what you said is wrong, they throw the case out. So FBI agents are not going to write something in the affidavit that's not true. They will omit it. They said in the affidavit that the person confessed to them that Robinson wrote the message to to him the training and that he also told her go under the keyboard and get the note that I have a and yet you got people that spend more time questioning his team than actually questioning and Robinson. It's it's crazy to me and and I and people don't watch me say this, right? But if I was questioning and lying about it, y'all be watching me to no end. I'll be rich, too. I go I go buy me another car. I go buy me a Bentley Bentega, man. Rolls-Royce. I like that Spectra. I go buy a Spectra pimping y'all out on online if I if I wasn't acting in good faith. Do you not think I want justice for Charlie Kirk? You think you think I'm sitting on here and the killer is free? Right. That they're going to come kill me one day and I'm cool with that. Right. We cool with the killer of Charlie Kirk being free. We just going to let him go. But we happy they got an innocent kid that didn't do nothing while the killer is still out here plotting to kill one of us. You think we think that's a that makes sense? Heat. Heat. [music] >> [music]
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