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off. How's that? >> See if uh see if if uh if if that did it. >> Yep. I took the echo off. >> Okay, let's see. Um All right. Tell me what we're looking at here. This is an image obviously not of UVU. And tell me what we're seeing when you look at this. Why Why would we select this image to show folks? >> Okay, this particular one, I think this one's yours. I the other one I had of is the one of the grass, >> but >> but that's okay. Um I'm seeing that he's on a chair that is uh it looks like it has rubber stoppers on it >> and he's elevated. Yeah, he's elevated on I don't know what kind of table that is. Maybe somebody in the chat can tell me. >> Well, he's sitting there on a plastic table. He's in a chair with rubber um with a rubber bottom. >> Yep. I like this photo because it shows the sound guy on the table next to him. >> This was a typical setup for Charlie Kirk. For those that that didn't uh those that didn't know, this is a very typical setup from them. This is a um you've got the uh the sound guy at the table. You've got um Charlie Kirk in the middle of the table and you're on some kind of padding or concrete. And this is a very typical setup. I'll show you another one. Here's another one. Very similar setup. This is not the same event. You go back and look, you'll say, "That's the same event." No, this is just a very typical setup. You've got the sound guy on the table next to him. You've got Charlie Kirk in a chair with rubber stoppers. If you look at the very bottom, he's sitting in a chair with rubber stoppers at the bottom. Um, and he's sitting on concrete, not on grass. >> Correct. >> So, now we go to a an event on grass. I think this was one that you found. What are you looking at here? >> Well, I'm looking at rubber mats >> and I'm looking at rubber stopper on the chairs. >> Mhm. And we still have we still have the sound guy in the chair next to us. >> Yeah. And I'm looking at the sound guy. And if you notice on the day of UVU, they had water bottles and juice and all the stuff all around his audio table, which is a no no. I've done events before and I'm a photographer and that's a absolute no no to have any kind of water bottles near um any kind of electrical um board of any kind. So this one was just right at the end. I see there's some water bottles there, but it's right at the end. Yeah, but we're on grass, but we're sitting on some sort mats or rubber mats or something that provides some sort of insulation between um between the chairs, which are also have rubber stoppers at the bottom uh and uh and the ground itself. So, we have this sort of uh grounding barrier here between them. I grabbed this one. Uh again, this was showing you the sound guy on the chair on the table next to Charlie where you can see him. This has been the case. I'll go back and look. In all of these images, the sound guy is on the table next to him. We'll examine in a few minutes whether the whether the uh um UVU setup was any different. Here's a setup where they are on concrete and you'll notice uh I grabbed this one because the tent stoppers are actually on the ground directly on the ground. I don't remember where all these were. I think this might have been the University of Florida, but there but each one of these was in a little different setup. And the tent stoppers were actually down there on the ground. The tent is sitting directly on the ground. You'll notice that here. The tent is sitting directly on the ground. It's sitting on grass. Charlie himself is sitting on some sort of concrete, but the tent is definitely directly on the ground. >> Dan Flood is standing directly on the ground. [snorts] >> Yes. >> Now, similar situation here. We're on concrete, but again, the tent is directly on the ground. is at the University of Arizona. The sound guy, you'll notice, directly next to Charlie Kirk. He's not there's no barrier between them. He's not down on the ground. He's directly level with Charlie Kirk. He's at the chair directly next to him and the tent is uh directly on the ground. Here we are again with a grass bottom down here. There I I can't tell if he's sitting it looks like he's sitting on some kind of a sidewalk over there. Not necessarily grass. Dan is standing in the gr half in the grass and half on the sidewalk, but the tent is actually sitting directly on the ground. >> I think this is important context for the things we'll talk about tonight. So, the tent directly on the ground, Charlie sitting on the concrete. Um, the sound guy, you'll notice on the table back there in the back directly next to Charlie. For those of you who've been complaining about my mouse, guess what? I got a new mouse, baby. Y'all have been complaining for since you met me about the mouse. I got a bright green mouse now. Took me a minute to figure that one out. Again, same setup. Uh this time they we do actually have a fire extinguisher. This time the fire extinguisher makes an appearance, but it's in a it's in a uh a box, but it's a tent directly on the ground. Dan Flood standing directly on the ground. Um and they are standing on some sort of concrete. So, in every image we've looked at so far, Ally, >> Charlie Kirk is sitting on either concrete or some sort of barrier between him and the ground. >> Correct. >> In every single image we've looked at so far, the tent is sitting directly on the ground, just like it is here, the tent is sitting directly on the ground. >> And when he was on grass, I noticed that he had rubber mats every time, especially when he had a speaker with him. >> Yeah. Yeah. every every time I looked at many debates and if I'm not correct, maybe somebody can correct me. Maybe I'm wrong. >> Look, we're always open to being corrected. You can't possibly rule it's it's impossible to rule something out unless you've seen every image from every debate. And I have not, but I've seen a lot and I've not seen any that break this pattern. Again, on some kind of concrete, tent stands directly on the ground. Charlie Kirk sitting below table level. That was a little different that day. And you'll notice the sound guy, you can't see because of the sign, but he is on this table right here. He's not down below next to it. So, the pattern holds time and time and time again. Now, what we're going to do next is we're going to flip to a side view of the UVU day. This was a picture taken from Charlie's 9:00. I think you provided this picture. It's a picture taken from Charlie's 9:00. It's not up yet. I'm looking at the preview of what's coming up. Okay. >> Uh, taken from Charlie's 9:00, he has um, it will give you an idea of of how the sound guy is not on the same level as Charlie Kirk, and it will show you the grass and a little bit about the tent. So, tell me why you selected this picture, why this drew your attention, and what it is we're looking at. >> Well, this was the UVU, right? >> I'm pretty sure this was the UV. This Yeah, this is the one that I found. >> Here we have Terrell Farnsworth. Here we have 1776 guy. Uh we have Rick Cutler down here on the lower left looking up at the camera smiling for some reason. Uh we've got the >> Yes, that's odd. I I did see him talking to somebody else before that guy went up the hill. But yes, I noticed that just the whole area you can just literally put a rubber mat with everything. You could put it with the speakers underneath Charlie. What I noticed is also there's there's fountains, there's like water underground, there's like a lot of a lot of problems. You would need an electrician to come there to to certify this to be an outdoor event or if they have that at UVU itself. I would strongly suggest whenever there's anything to do with water involved that's so close to where he's speaking because you wouldn't put your kid up on on a microphone singing by a pool, right? So you would definitely make sure that he would be secured as the, you know, he's the star, so he would be secured and he would have something other than a metal table, feet on water bottles, and a metal a metal chair with no rubber stoppers. Everything just seems to me so sketchy, and that's why I I emailed you about it because it just didn't seem right to me. >> So now we're looking at another one. This is another image from behind. Um I think if I'm not mistaken, this may be the last photo Mikey McCoy took allegedly. >> Yes, I got it from his story. >> Yeah, this was mere seconds before Charlie Kirk passed away. Like under 20 seconds. >> Yes. >> Um but we see here no rubber stoppers on the table. I mean on the chair. Um metal stands running directly from the stand down into the grass. Um, his legs leaning against the metal frame of the chair. His back leaning against the metal frame of the chair. Dan Flood standing on what? What are those? Plastic. What is he standing on? I think we have a better >> It's It's It's like a rubber uh table. Uh, it's a It could be rubber. It could be plastic, but he's standing on something and then he's standing on top of equipment case. So he has a barrier between himself and the ground. >> He does. >> He does. >> And Charlie Kirk is on a metal chair on a metal table on metal stands going into the ground. >> And metal legs of the table >> and metal legs of the table. Yeah. So Charlie Kirk's in a little different situation than Dan Flood is in here. Um and if you want to get an idea of just how much metal is involved, here is um the aftermath. You have the again the metal chair. You can see from the bottom there are no metal stoppers. You see the um metal legs of the chair going directly into the ground. Um right there. And let me flip here. I've I've I put a little sensor that was there was a lot of blood there. So I went ahead and and blurred it out a little bit. So >> if you notice there's no there's nothing like further there's no um blood further from that. just on that part of the table. >> Yeah. >> You know what I noticed in this picture when you sent it to me? The first thing I noticed was the the suitcase or whatever that is to the left uh on just on the other side. >> Yeah. This equipment case right here, this equipment case right here, um is plastic. It looks plastic to me. >> And it is it looks to be about six feet long. And when when Dan Flood tips Charlie over, he lands on that equipment case. He doesn't land on the ground. >> I actually emailed that to Candace and she talked about it on her one of her streams and I like, shout out to Scooby-Doo Files and other other um live streams I've been on. She she discussed it on that one live stream she had that he fell on top of an equipment case because that that would that that's very [clears throat] very important than just throw him on the ground and he didn't really grab him, you know, and hold him and then put him down. He kind of like went, "Oh, I got to touch you first kind of thing and then then he put him on on top of the case if that makes sense." >> Yeah. But in in the instance of a bullet wound, and here's what I thought I think got lost in that coverage, cuz um I heard Candace cover it. I've heard other people cover it. Um what typically happens is she covers something and everybody instantly picks up on it because she's she's got a keen eye for for evidence. What I what I'm looking at now in the last couple of weeks when I look at um when I look at that equipment case is if he's if he's shot through the neck with a 300 six it doesn't matter whether he lands on the ground or whether he lands on an equipment case. Right. But if if there's electricity going through them, >> if the if the the ground around it was a little bit moist or you know, I don't know what the grass was like. That's the problem. And there was no rubber mats or anything. >> Yeah. If there's still if there's still electricity coursing through him and he hits the ground, he potentially could light up people around him. >> Exactly. But if he lands on a gigantic plastic tub that creates a grounding barrier between the earth and him, the electric will stop. >> Exactly. You got it. [snorts] >> So that's uh that's one of the things I noticed. So we're going to get another side angle here. Um this side angle shows the these are look like plastic tubs. I'm I'm guessing they're plastic. I don't know. They might be rubber or something, but these are some kind of Oop. I went back one too many. Um, these look like plastic tubs of some sort. This is the platform Dan was standing on. You'll notice there's a fire extinguisher on the front right. There's a fire extinguisher on the back left, uh, or the back right right here. Uh, I don't know if people can see that in that shadow, but that's a fire extinguisher there. There's a fire extinguisher here. Um, and you'll notice every chair of the tent is elevated above ground. They're all on these plastic stools that create a barrier between the earth and the tent itself. That barrier is important if there's electricity involved because if there's a giant electrical bolt, the uh the tent could then become electrified. And if somebody's leaning against the pole and doesn't know the tent is going to be electrified, they might be at risk as well. Anything else you see on this one um before we click the next one? No, I just I can't I can't really tell if that table that Dan Flood was on was, you know, plastic or heavy duty plastic or rubber. I could I know those are uh sound equipment cases that they store stuff in, but I can't tell what that material was. That's that's the only thing. >> Again, couple things to see here. Uh one is this is the the elusive Jeff Long. Jeff Long is um the deputy chief of police that Brian Harpole tried to throw under the bus and back the bus over him acting like he didn't get what he wanted and it was somehow Jeff Long's fault that somebody was able to get on a on a roof. We covered that extensively. Jeff Long gave him everything he wanted. The the text exchange, I don't want to beat a dead horse. But at work, we always do this. If somebody's beating a dead horse, right, the the horse's legs up, leave it alone. Uh, but Jeff Long and the text message with with I think it was Dan Flood, it turns out to be. Um, but essentially what that what that text message exchange was is, hey, can we put somebody on this roof up here above us? This is a walkway above them. Can we put somebody up there and can you block it off so people can't get down there and chunk rocks down at us? Sure, you can. No problem. And they did. And they did. But again, you have an elevated tent right here. Uh, you have the deputy chief of police. He's playing with a microphone. My guess is in looking at this, and I I checked with a friend of mine who's a sound guy. He thinks this is the um the microphone for the guest. He thinks this is the guest microphone. >> Well, we don't know, right? Yeah. >> We don't know. But based on where it's located, he thinks it's the guest microphone. And the guest microphone is missing. >> Still a no no. Still a no. No. In something like this, you should put gloves on. You shouldn't touch it. >> That's just >> Well, again, they I think they thought he got shot in the neck. I don't think they I mean, most people wouldn't be worried about a microphone, you know? >> Right. But you still got to secure the scene and not touch the evidence that >> Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Well, that the there there was there was no sec scene securing as we'll see in this next image. [laughter] >> Oh, man. So, so one of the things I want to talk about tonight, this this image has taken on new importance for me. >> Yes. >> Originally, this was um this was one of those images that circulated not terribly long afterwards as evidence that the scene wasn't secured. It was evidence that um maybe people were doing something shady because when he was when he was removing the SD card, he was kind of looking around left and right. He looked kind of shady. Uh, but he was taking the SD card out of here. And for those that don't, uh, you know, not everybody does photography or computer stuff, the SD card is a storage device, right? I don't know that it stands for storage device, but in my head, it's always stood for storage device. Um, but the storage device was in the camera and it was recording or capturing on the SD card everything that it was seeing out in front of it. So, um, whatever they did behind the table, for example, after the Charlie after Charlie Kirk went down, whatever they did behind the table would have been captured on that camera. I know Candace Owens was invited to view a portion of that footage. Uh, primarily, I think, for the purpose of saying, uh, no, nothing uh, nothing came out of the back of his head. There was no exit wound and there was no entrance wound from the back of the head. There was a lot of rumor at the beginning that he was shot actually shot from behind. >> Correct. >> Or that or that he was shot here and it might should have blown out of the back of his neck. She gets in touch with this guy right here, Terrell Farnsworth. He lets her see this footage. My question is, if I ever talk to Candace, what I'm going to ask her is, did they shut it down before you saw what was going on to Charlie under the tent? because I have a lot of concerns we'll talk about in the next few episodes of things that might have gone on under that tent. Um >> I know I know he was there for quite a while. I did an interview with Henry, the first speaker that talked about Mormons. Um he was actually the last one to have a full debate with Charlie. So that was interesting conversation that me, him, and Mr. Leo had on his liveream. and um he was pretty sure um that he was told that the SD card went to um the proper avenue. Um and I said, "Well, how do you know that it, you know, like he was on camera for quite a while with it, um you know, putting it in his pocket, putting it wherever he was putting it? How do you know it went somewhere?" Well, they took all the kids to a certain area and locked them in a room and were told that the SD card went somewhere. >> So, that I had a problem with. >> Um, so a lot of the kids, >> all the kids that were there, like the speakers and main the main people in the front were directed to a different room, you know, I guess to be interviewed or whatnot. and he told me his accounts and I said and um our live stream that we had on that he said well I know it went to the proper I don't know if I can say it the f whatever B whatever yeah it went there and I go well how do you know that did you see it him put it in his hands or did you see anything and he said no like a staff person told him that I said well then you don't know because he was out there for quite some time if you watch UVU events. He's out there for a long time with that in his possession. So, we don't know when it got to them. >> Well, so and and and here's how here's what I would say. If if Terl Farnsworth, who's taking the SD card out here, if Terrell Farnsworth turned the SD card over immediately to the feds, Terrell Farnsworth wouldn't still have a copy of it to show Candace. >> Correct. Correct. Unless Unless the unthinkable, which is the feds made a copy and then sent it back to him. >> Yes. >> Right. That would that doesn't even make sense. Nobody would even think that that's possible. And so, uh, you know, if if he did actually turn it over to the feds, if he did turn it over to the feds, then, um, then he did not, um, he either made a backup copy and he didn't turn it over immediately. >> Mhm. >> Because if he turned it over immediately, he wouldn't have a copy of it in all likelihood. So, that's uh that's the way I look at that. Now, I want to show now that we were talking about um Terrell Farnsworth, I want to show why this video matters in a new light. Well, actually, let me do let me show this first. Let me show this video first. This video, for those that are worried about seeing the gore, this has been edited. It is not going to um it is not going to show the moment of impact, so to speak. But I want I want to play a portion of this video. I don't want to play the whole video. It's it's a little over 10 minutes long. Um this is going to show the uh a minute or so before Charlie Kirk is uh the loud bang. I can't even say he was shot because I don't I don't know that I believe that anymore. It's going to show a little bit before the loud bang. It's going to show him fall down, but it's blurred out. you're not going to see anything. It's going to show the hustle and bustle afterwards and it's going to show them carry it off. Most people haven't seen this in its entirety. We've seen clips, but I think it's important because you get a real sense for just how quick they get him out of there. And when we're talking about my idea of what might have happened, you'll get a you'll get a really good idea for why how fast they got out of there really matters because [snorts] we're talking about uh you know neck injuries and and all kinds of Let me let me just let me just let this roll for just a second. and they're taking them wide away right there. So, as of this point, there's no uh there's no life- saving measures being taken place, right? So, this is 948 on this video. So, let's go back to the moment it blurs out for the shot. It's 9:30. 18 seconds he was on that ground. Now, I want to think counterfactually for just a second. We'll watch we'll watch a clip of this again in a second, but I want to I want to pause here and have a discussion. Had he been on the ground longer, first responders are going to show up. >> Yes, >> first responders are going to report to the scene. There were paramedics there with red bags. If he's on the ground longer in, you know, 30 seconds, 45 seconds, a minute, minute and a half, if they're really in there trying to stop the bleeding, if they're really trying to evaluate the cervical neck to determine whether it's broken and he can be moved, I mean, you have a giant gaping wound on the neck and he's unconscious, you you might ought to consider a couple of quick things before you pick a man up and let his head flop around. And let me tell you, I've seen images that have not been released and they did not secure his head whatsoever. It flopped all the way to the SUV. It just did. >> It's interesting you say that because I was on a live space and we were discussing that with an actual EMT and they have those neck braces and platforms and stuff to carry somebody away. So, I found it very odd that they didn't, you know, they ignored the EMT that was there. It was almost like they were non-existent when I looked at the video footage. >> So, there's 18 seconds. In those 18 seconds, there were, you know, we there were a lot of things, a lot of handoffs it looked like, or or you know, people moving and somebody comes in and somebody else runs off. We have no idea what was happening during those 18 seconds. I'm suggesting perhaps the footage on the SD card would could give us a lot of information as to what happened during those 18 seconds. And it might be critical to understanding whether they've been honest about whether or not they took life-saving measures or were they removing stuff from the scene? Could they have been pulling things off of Charlie Kirk's body and scuttling them away from the scene? That's something we'll explore not tonight, but in a later episode. Um, >> can I say something? I I just feel like [laughter] >> well when he was taking the SD card out I just feel like all there was a whole bunch of other cameras around that were not not significant to him. You know they were saying that oh someone's going to steal the camera. Well you you would have to get up on a chair unscrew cuz it was screwed into the the tent area and you have to take it down. you know, that would be a process, but the cameras that were around the tent would be much easier just to grab and go off with. And they were still sitting there while he was taking down the SD cards, stepping on the chair that Charlie was on. >> So, I want to introduce another video here. Um, and I don't know whether they can hear these videos. I think they can. I pulled the video way down. Just I don't know for those of you who don't know, I don't hear really well. Um, and [clears throat] things in my ears that are really loud are really bothersome to me. So, uh, you'll see me a lot of times I'll pull the headphone out of one ear, um, and turn the volume down. So, if it's if it's too low that you can't hear it, let me know. I want to show you this and I want you guys all to focus on one thing in particular. This guy right here in the 1776 hat. Now, this video will terminate one second after Charlie Kirk after here, after we all hear the loud bang, but I want you to watch this guy as he gets ready for the loud bang. And then I want to go back to the other video once you've keyed in on him and see what he does. And I want to see you to see the timing with which he does it. Now, am I want to be very careful. I am not accusing this man of participating in Charlie Kirk's death. I'm not suggesting anybody should find out the identity of this man and harass him and ask him questions and email him and call him and show up at his house. I'm not suggesting any of that. What I'm suggesting is there is a coincidence that I've noticed that if I am on Tyler Robinson's defense team or if I am the Utah County police or sheriff or if I am the Utah State Police or if I'm the FBI, I want to know more about this action. Now, it could be it's absolutely nothing, but I want us all to watch this very carefully and I want to watch and learn what we hear. Now, you guys in the are going to have to tell me whether or not you can hear sound because sound is going to be a critical component of this. Um, I'm going to go for just for the sake of argument. I'm just going to do about 15 seconds. Uh, if I need to, I can back it back up, but let me know if you guys can hear this. Okay. Could you I don't know if they could hear. Okay, they couldn't hear it. So, no audio, but So, so without the audio, I don't have to worry about you guys hearing it. Notice what he does here with his head. He's looking looking and then he turns to the side right here. He's looking, looking, looking looking. And then I'm going to show you the bigger video in just a second. He turns to the side right there. So, he's looking, he's looking, he's looking, looking forward. We've got about 7 seconds left in Charlie Kirk's life. He's looking forward. Looking forward, looking forward. Just watch his head. See that right there? That turn his head and put his head down because I'm going to show it to you now in the context of the larger video. And I want people to look at the Dan Flood signal while you look at him. Turn his head and put his head down. I think it's critical to understanding what's happening here. Oh, wouldn't you know it, I I uh [laughter] I uh shut down the uh um the other video. I might have >> Well, they shouldn't even be they shouldn't even be there to be honest. Once you have a setup, usually the sound guys are not like right there. I don't know. That's just me. Well, you know, I get it if they want to be there for the purpose of of, you know, like that moment there was feedback. Let's say that was an accident and there wasn't supposed to be feedback, right? Um, if if they want to be there for that because um because there's feedback and they want to the the questioner, he's the one right here on the right hand side. Right before he gets to the last question, he looks off to the left and he does something to his glasses. Now, I don't know what that means. >> I don't know what it is that that uh Right there. Boom. You see that? He looks over to the left and he does something with his glasses. Immediately upon him looking to the left and doing something with his glasses. Watch Frank Turk. Frank Turk's the guy with the white hat over here. Immediately now Frank Turk has turned towards Charlie Kirk. He will now go to the hat. When he goes to the hat, watch Dan Flood's head. He goes to the hat. Dan Flood turned his head and looked at him. When he goes to the hat, now these two over here are talking. Watch where his eyes go. Watch where Hunter's eyes, not Hunter, excuse me. Watch where Terrell Farnsworth's eyes go. They go down at the sound guy. They go down at the sound guy. When they go down at the sound guy, watch Dan Flood give the signal. When he gives the signal, watch sound guy turn his head. This might be, and I'll play that back in real time so you can watch it. I just wanted to stop it and explain it. It goes Hunter Kak looks to the left, either towards Frank Turk or to somebody over here. He does something with his glasses. Frank Turk then goes to the hat. Dan Flood looks at him. Dan Flood looks to his left at somebody. Could be the sound guy. Could be something. I don't know who, but he looks over there. When he looks over there, Terrell Farnsworth, who's right here, his eyes go down to the sound guy. When his eyes go down to the sound guy, Dan Flood steps forward and gives the most obvious signal in the history of mankind. In my opinion, >> me too. And when he gives the signal, sound guy winces and shields his head before the bang. Watch it again. Watch it again. So we've got Hunter is going to kick it off with the look to his left and the glasses. Glasses. Now watch Frank Turk in the white hat over here. There's the hat. Now watch. There's the look to the left. He looks to the right. Now watch here. He looks down. Gives the signal. sound guy turns his head down and then Charlie goes over. >> Yeah, [snorts] >> this is >> It literally takes just a a fraction of a second for you know what I'm talking about to happen. A fraction of a second. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, it's it's my or I don't want to say it's my theory of what happened because I don't know that it is yet, but I think it needs to be investigated whether Charlie Kirk was in fact shot at all. I don't care. I don't care what the autopsy shows. And here's why. If I'm right, if this theory pans out, here's who all is indicated. You have five people in the SUV. Five people in the SUV who know his hands are fried. They can see him. You've got the driver guy named Brian. I think you told me. You've got the passenger, Dan Flood. >> Just Justin. Justin was the driver. >> Excuse me. That's why you're here. Justin the driver, Dan Flood in the passenger seat. In the way back, you have Frank Turk, >> and then you have Rick Cutler and Brian Harpole >> in the back seat with >> Charlie Kirk. [snorts] All five of them would know Charlie's hands are all burned up. Even if they didn't know whether or not he got shot, they would be able to look at his hands and say, "The hell happened to his hands? Why do his hands look like that?" Anybody Anybody would know that anybody would know the hands didn't look right. So, >> and and it looks like there's a there's to me it looks like there's a finger broken. >> Uh I was electrocuted I was electrocuted when I don't know if I'm allowed to tell my story. You let me know if I'm allowed. >> Go ahead. Go ahead. >> Yep. Uh it's dear to me. >> I know you. >> Yeah. When I first heard about this, I immediately um you know thought of a different uh scenario. Don't know if I'm right, and I'm not saying anything. I'm just sharing my experience. Um when I was little, I was like 13 years old. Um, uh, my my sister was, you know, washing clothes in the in the laundry room and the tub overfilled, the drain was plugged, the water went everywhere, and she was 5 years older than me and I she asked me to help her. I'm only 13 years old and oddly enough, my dad's an electrician, okay? We were taught never to touch water and plugs or anything like that. But I [clears throat] came in there with nothing. Just, you know, I'm just a kid playing outside with shorts and a t-shirt. Come in like, ah, Alli's going to save the day. And I said, "Well, just unplug it." She's she's screaming that it's overflooding. And I came in and I reached for the the plug to unplug it. And I got electrocuted. And my sister was she had boots on cuz she was going to a party that night. So she had she put my dad's construction boots on because everything was wet and um she saw got electrocuted and my hand curled up. My eyes went in the back of my head. I just all I I don't remember anything else. Just like my whole entire hand went into the socket and my sister grabbed a broom within seconds and hit me with the broom on my hand. And um I'm lucky to be alive. I didn't have any jewelry on. My dad said if I had a jewelry on I I would be dead. >> So I I do have what's called a left bundle branch block >> and that's from that's from the electrocution that that happened to me. And so my hand did get blistered. It went a little bit black and I kind of hid it from my parents for a bit and then I then I had to go to the hospital and that's the end of history. But anyways, I do have a heart problem from that. Well, so we have a uh you know, obviously you have a a personal history with this. I I dropped the slow mode to 30 seconds because I'm I'm watching spam in real time. So, for those of you who are contributing faithfully and and well, I appreciate it. For those that aren't, this gives the uh moderators a chance to to find them and block them. Um so, I I want to go through this though. There there's a roster of people that is now growing. And for those of you in the chat, I was watching the chat a little bit while um while Ally was telling her story from her childhood with electricity. For those of you who don't know what I'm talking about, the burnup hands, go watch the last episode. Go watch number 29. This is number 30. Go watch number 29. Number 29 talks about the hands. It shows a lot of images. You'll see what we're talking about. But if you're not up to pace, that's fine. You don't have to watch every episode of the Real Baron podcast. You're welcome to, and I I encourage you to, but you don't have to. Um, but but the five people in the in the SUV definitely would have seen the hands. Brian Harpole said on the Shawn Ryan show, he made a 911 call to let them know they were on the way to the hospital. Based Sam Parker, a uh Twitter superstar who's done yman's work on this. I mean, heroic work on this. Uh, again, curating things, breaking original reporting. He's the one, I believe, that broke the Mikey McCoy walking away story. >> Um, he's the one that proved that was Charlie's necklace coming out of the back of the shirt. >> Um, he's done a great job. Sam Parker requested the 911 calls. >> No 911 call existed from Charlie's team to the hospital. Now, let me speculate. Let me speculate why that might have been. If Charlie's hands are all burned up, the last thing you want is a team meeting you at the door with a stretcher saying, "Hand us the body. We'll take it from here." Because now you've lost control of the body. If you can get the body into the surgical suite, which is what Brian said they did, nobody met him at the door. They rushed in. They dropped him in there. Now you have a surgeon. So you've limited the number of people who have seen the body. They've also further limited the number of people seen the body because they didn't turn it over to a crematorium and they didn't turn it over to somebody to bury him. But you do have the five people in the SUV that you have the surgeon. You have anybody else in that room who was there who by HIPPA cannot discuss it. There are privacy rules associated with this and that would that carry criminal penalties if you discuss it. So nobody in that suite is going to be able to talk about the condition of the body. But you also have a medical examiner who must be in on it. Again, if the hands are burned up, if the hands are burned up, you have five people in the SUV. You have a surgeon, whoever else was in the suite, we'll call it two or three people. Let's say eight or nine people. You have a medical examiner. You have whoever's storing the body. You have a mortician because somebody had to get the body all prettied up and get the hands right for Erica to come in and do that really weird video where she's kissing all over his hands. So you have a growing group of people who if this um hypothesis is correct, you have a growing group of people who would know about it. Now why do I say that? Obviously on the one hand it's more difficult to keep a secret secret the more people know about it. But if you know about it you're implicating yourself in a felony potentially a felony murder. So, it might not be in your interest to tell other people that you know about it. So, that's kind of one. But number two is this gives Tyler Robinson's team, the Utah County Police, the Utah County Sheriff's Office, the Orin Police, the Utah County Sheriff's Department, the uh Utah Valley University Police, who probably have joint jurisdiction, I'm guessing. Uh the Utah State Police, the FBI. It gives a lot of different investigatory groups numbers of people they can approach to ask did you see his hands? What do they look like? And here's why that question is so important. If I had a deposition, if I was a lawyer and could take I don't know what the rule is in Utah. Some states allow precriminal trial depositions, some don't. But if I'm a lawyer in Utah and they allow criminal depositions, pre-trial criminal depositions of witnesses, I would be putting these people under oath and asking that one question. Did you happen to see his hands? What did they look like? Anyone who says I don't remember is suspect. They're in on it. If it because his hands look all burnt up, then I'm showing them pictures. I'm marking for identification purposes. Defense exhibit one. This is a picture of his hands. We'll worry about the authentication later. Do you recognize this picture? What does this appear to be? I don't know. I've never seen hands look like that. Okay, you're a suspect. This is This is a real easy wedge issue to get in on people because we have high quality imagery of his hands immediately immediately after the shot. I'm talking 26 seconds after the shot. I have a photographs from 26 seconds after he was shot. Eight seconds after they let him off the ground, both hands look burn up. One's oozing and the other one's >> right right up to his arm. Like right. >> Yeah, it goes up his wrist, his forearm, and everything else. Great call. I want to show one more piece here. Um, one more video here tonight because this was on Candace Owens broadcast when she broke the news that Terrell Farnsworth Now, where is it? Hold on. This is when she broke the news that Terrell Farnsworth had this imagery. There it is. You guys should be able to hear this. If you cannot hear this, I can't help you. [laughter] If you can't hear it, you're on your own. Oh, please. All right, here we go. >> They just shot Charlie. They just shot Charlie. P your shots early. There's a shot, Charlie. >> Right there at the end, he said he's dead. They just shot Charlie. He's dead. At the time, this didn't really jump out to me as more than speculation that this guy must have known perhaps there was a gunshot coming or this guy, you know, for for some reason thought it a good idea when his boss got shot that he ran into a prime filming position and started doing selfies. It looked really weird. It looked um like it was it was just one of those moments where you think, "What the hell's going on? Why would he do this?" I look back now after talking to Ally, after talking to electricians, after talking to a neurosurgeon, after talking to an orthopedic surgeon, after talking to a burn wound nurse, after talking to an AV professional who does stages for a living, after talking to another AV professional who I've known for 25 years, this now looks like someone who thought it a good idea and in their interest, in my opinion, to instantly begin planting the narrative that Charlie Kirk was shot. We got to get this planted that Charlie Kirk was shot. My guess is, my opinion, if you pulled this guy's phone, there's 70 videos of this routine from the week before where he's doing this number in his closet. [sighs and gasps] They shot Charlie. They shot Charlie. And then he watches it and says, "Oh, that doesn't look believable. Let me try it again." He's dead. No, that doesn't look believable. Whatever happened, he ended up recording this and he didn't share it. He recorded this, but they didn't share it. Why? Because he looked at it and thought, "This is this isn't believable either." Even with all my rehearsals, I couldn't get it down right. Again, my opinion. I don't know whether that's true, but I'll tell you what, if I'm Tyler Robinson's defense team, if I'm the Utah County Sheriff, if I'm the Utah County Police, if I'm the UT or ORM Utah Police, Utah Valley University Police, if I'm the FBI, I'm asking for this guy's phone because your sound guy shielded his face half a second before the bang went off. and he shielded his face in concert with a guy stepping forward and touching his left open hand to his straightened right upper arm. And your guy shielded his face when the guy did that shortly after there was some sound issues and we were having to go up to Charlie and say, "Hey, you need to hold on to the microphone." And your guy right before he did this, your client Charlie, his hands were all burned up. And the only thing electronic around him was a microphone that your guy controlled. And then and after all of those coincidences, you think now's the time to jump up on gravel and start trending a narrative, setting a narrative that Charlie just got shot and he's dead. >> It didn't look authentic. And there was other people that were there. Even Butch Hibbs was in the background saying, "Oh, this is it looked like a gunshot." And it looked like, you know, that the guy that was speaking was it was in his uh he was talking about guns, you know. So, we want to get that narrative out there. And it is out there. >> I mean, it was instant. The narrative was he got shot. >> Yep. And once there's a narrative out there, it's very difficult to get people off of that narrative. It's very difficult to get people off of that narrative. Um, I think Charles Mcccleintoch Wilson, if this case ever gets solved as something other than a gunshot, deserves a Pulitzer Prize for his photography, his photojournalism. >> Um, because without Charles Mcccleintoch Wilson, all we would have is is grainy like zerk images. second, 15 second videos. >> Yeah. That are like all blurry. You can't see a single thing going on. You could kind of make out that the hand looks charred. Then you get >> And that's what I was saying to you like when I when we were messaging, I I said there's something wrong. It even looks like, you know, his shoulder is broken or something is not right and his pinkie is broken and yeah, it just doesn't look right. >> So there's additional again, there's additional imagery out there. Charles Mcccleintoch Wilson gave me one particular photo he asked me not to share. I'm going to honor his uh wishes and I'm not going to share it. Uh he did tell me I could describe it and I will describe it in more detail later um and then determine how to present that. But I will say this, zero caution was given to Charlie's neck. Either the wound or the break. Zero caution whatsoever was given to Charlie's neck during the transport from behind the table to the SUV. [snorts] And anyone who wants to challenge me on that is wrong. I've tried to get my head in the position I saw in that image and my head will not go in that position. If that gives you an idea of what his head was doing while they were carrying him off. Now you ask yourself, you pay millions of dollars a year. These guys are supposedly your brothers and your friends. Is that how you want to be carried away from the scene? Cuz I'm telling you right now, I saw how he was carried away from the scene. I physically cannot make my neck get in that position. And if I tried to get someone else's neck in that position, I think I would go to prison. And that's not a joke. >> Don't talk to me guys about this was your brother and your son because if I'm >> if it was well if it was your daughter up on up on that stage, wouldn't you fight to the to the universe to find out what happened? Or are you just going to leave it to whoever to deal with it? Like if that was my child, let we're not going to even talk about husbands, wives. Let's just say it was your daughter. What would you do? >> Yeah. I mean, that's exactly. Yeah. So, it's it's uh it's it's been an an interesting investigation with you, Ally. I really do appreciate it. Uh I'll show quickly on X, um where you can see Ally, if you want to give her a follow. She does great investigatory work. She doesn't publish a lot under her own name, but she does great investigatory work. her name's Ali Top Files on X. Um, and on YouTube, it's the same, right? >> Yeah. I'm I'm not that I'm more of a researcher, guys. I'm kind of like everybody else out there that's um just re researching and I go on other people's lives. Like I went on Trigger Smart. I went on Mr. Leos, Kelly, Blake. We do live spaces. Um yeah, I just uh I love researching and I'm not so much love the camera, let's say. Um, >> you've done great tonight. Truly, you've truly done great tonight. >> You know what I mean? >> Yeah. So, there she is. There you guys can see all my subs off to the side. My most recent ones. So, [laughter] I'm outing myself here uh as a as a Dave Smith, Valhalla, Brandy and Billy Eden, Carol, Candace Owens, Andrew Hiller, Coach Colin, uh uh Stan for all those. >> I'm not I'm not ashamed of it. Uh but yeah, go check her out on Ali Top Files on X, Allet Top Files on YouTube. And um Ally, I really appreciate you joining us today. This has been helpful. Great to get your perspective and glad people got a chance to meet you. >> So yes, I'm very happy that you had me on and we got to discuss a lot today. And uh yeah, so checking out and I hope everybody can uh follow my page and keep on um digging because this is what it's all about. >> Yep. Thank you, Ally. I'm going to go through some supers now. Uh guys, I appreciate you hanging with us. has been uh uh again kind of a heavy show in terms of evidence.