Candace Owens Responds to Erika Kirk's Fox News Interview About Charlie Kirk Conspiracy Theories

Okay, you guys. Now, I wasn't sure about Erica. I was waiting kind of a situation for her to be in. Obviously, having lost her husband, uh, becoming the CEO and the chairman of a company, it's just a lot of transition and it's nice to wait for more information before you prejudge or some, you know, just assume, make an assumption about somebody and it maybe is not based in reality. Well, we are getting a lot more of Erikica Kirk this week. I'll tell you that because she has been doing the rounds in the media really over the last couple of weeks. And she just gave an interview live with Harris Falner on Fox News where she finally addressed the quote unquote conspiracy theories. And I have to say this because it's true, but it completely missed the mark for me. I am sorry. It just has. But the good news is that she is now unmmering the water in terms of her intentions with this massive political organization. That's good news truly because we knew Charlie and now we are getting an opportunity to know Erica. Plus later on in the show it's knives out for Tucker Carlson as always. He's trending right now because he has officially waited into the who killed Charlie Kirk narrative. And since he is not a bought and paid for Fed, he is siding with not just the American people, people worldwide. And he says that he's not buying the official narrative. And there are some lingering questions. And he confirms what I told you about the Egyptian planes. So, um, let's jump right back into this. Welcome back to Candace. Look, I have been very patient. I do tend to focus on the evidence that's in front of us. Obviously, asking questions when a we come up across something that someone has said and it doesn't add up or if they lied, create a list. And you guys were coming after me cuz I was saying, "Look, you can we can write into our imaginations how Erica is thinking or how she's feeling or what she should be wearing, but she hasn't actually said anything yet." Right? That was my stance. She hasn't actually said anything yet. Give her a chance. Okay. And now she is making the rounds uh in the press because Charlie's book, this posthom humus book is coming out about the Sabbath and she's speaking about the quote unquote conspiracies as she sits down with a lot of these news anchors. So, first and foremost, she's sitting down here with Harris Falner. And I just want to show you a couple of clips from this sitdown, which is now trending. And she begins by addressing the question which has been in the air regarding where Charlie Kirk is buried. That question resurfaced this week in a big way because Milo Yiannopoulos and a few others have asserted with absolute certainty that Charlie has not yet been buried. That's what they're saying. They say they have proof of that. And at first, Harris Faulner is asking about that claim. Take a listen. >> Talk to me about this part of the conspiracies that are out there. This disturbing part that people are trying to guess where Charlie is. >> Can I have one thing? Can I have one thing? Can my children have one thing? Everything was public. We will be building the most beautiful memorial for my husband at Turning Point USA and it will be for the world to see and it will be spectacular and it will have um basically museum style for our Charlie, for my Charlie. But can I have one thing? Can my babies have one thing where we hold it sacred? Where my husband is laid to rest? where I don't have to be worried about some secular revolutionary coming and destroying my husband's grave while my daughter is sitting there praying one thing that this is my husband yes he was Charlie Kirk to the world and I know so many people love my husband and I am grateful for that but this is my husband and I want to be able to have one thing left that is sacred to our family to my in-laws to my babies and to my parents one Okay. >> Okay. So, on its face, I actually agree with that. I think that when people are being buried and where they're being buried and how their funerals are done, that is that is very private matter. Okay. So, objectively, I agree with what she's saying. Okay. But subjectively, because we are dealing with the subject of Erica Kirk, uh, and what transpired immediately following Charlie's assassination, this is going to be read as Megan Markle syndrome. Okay, Megan Markle syndrome, where you want privacy when you want it, but you want publicity whenever you want it. And that just doesn't work. Okay? It doesn't work that way. I honestly think it was said best by Bethany Frankle, not related to this situation. And Bethany Frankle is on Real Housewives, a real um a a a show, a a reality show. And she was referring to one of the housewives who lived her life very publicly, showcased her marriage, was buying tons of Louis Vuitton bags, and they had tons of money. And then when the relationship soured, the housewife basically asked the public for privacy. And Bethany was like, "No, this isn't how it works. Like, we were riding with you on the way up. We're riding with you on the way out. You don't get to like pick and choose when you want privacy and when you don't want privacy." And subjectively as it you know in the matter of Erikica Kirk this is the same person who recorded had somebody record her over Charlie Kirk's casket. That was not our business truly and I can say that decision was made by her and it there is yeah some credence to the claim that everybody grieavves differently. I wouldn't even record myself over a casket ever. Okay. Some people maybe perhaps want to have that memory. But the decision to publish that, you crying over your husband's casket and to publish his dead body on Instagram was a decision that was made by Erica. And we can watch that. Take a look. >> Oh, I love you. I love you. I love you. I know. >> I love you. >> I love you. I love you. God bless you. [snorts] That is an incredibly personal and an incredibly intimate moment. An intimate moment that you invited the public into. Okay. You you that there's there was no reason to do that outside of wanting to share something that was very private with the public. And now you fast forward 3 months removed and it's why why does the public want to know where where he's buried? It doesn't work like that. You you have to make a decision. I want this always to be private or I want this always to be public. That's that's my personal feedback there. Later on in this same interview, she launches into a strong defense of Turning Point USA employees who have just as a matter of fact told many lies, many inconsistencies. These are verifiable. So they are currently lying to the public or they have lied to the public. But she is going to deliver quite an impassioned defense regarding these particular individuals and the organization as a whole. And I want you to hear her passion. Take a listen. >> What are they taking from you right now? >> Nothing. But I will tell you what they are doing. It reminds me so much of chapter 6 in the book of Nehemiah. He is building a wall and the town's people are at the base of that hill saying Nehemiah calling him all these names, saying all these things, come on down. Every single time he had the same message four times in a row, I cannot come down. I am busy building. That is how I feel. I do not have time to address the noise. My silence does not mean that I am complacent. Mhm. >> My silence does not mean that somehow Turning Point USA and all of the handpicked staff that loved my husband and my husband loved them is somehow in on it. We are busy building. And you know what I thought? I thought these people are human. We are all grieving in our own way and they are trying to find the answer to something that happened that was so evil. They are trying so hard. And I get that. We're doing the same. Anytime we hear a lead or anytime we hear anything, we send it to the authorities. Please dig into this. No rock will be unturned. I want justice for my husband, for myself, for my family more than anyone else out there. So for me, you want to keep telling me to come down while we're we're building. I don't have time for that. >> But here's my breaking point on that. Come after me. Call me names. I don't care. Call me what you want. go down that rabbit hole, whatever. But when you go after my family, my Turning Point USA family, my Charlie Kirk show family, when you go after the people that I love and you're making hundreds and thousands of dollars every single episode going after the people that I love because somehow they're in on this. No, >> I'm sorry, but that that whole thing right there is frustrating. And I'm going to explain to you why. I just I just do not accept any of that. First and foremost, the idea that she does not have time. Okay, she definitely has time. Okay, she's done Hannity. She's done The Five. She's done Fox and Friends. She's done Outnumbered. She's done Megan Kelly Live. She sat down with the New York Times. She made time, by the way, in case you don't remember, to fly to DC for Sergio Gore to be sworn into the ambassador to India as as the ambassador to India, which feels kind of obscure and not necessarily related to Turning Point USA affairs, building affairs or whatever it is. But sure, that's fine. I mean, obviously, you're also allowed to be a person if that's the homie and that's what you want to do. Sure. But we are indeed speaking about a a coast to coast flight to stand up to next to somebody and basically say Charlie Charlie loved you. That was like the whatever 15-second speech that she gave. Right. Here's here's actually we have a clip of that speech that she gave. >> Well, he was also very good friends with a guy named Charlie. We just knew him as Charlie and his uh wife who we love so much is here with us. And maybe uh you know how close they were together. Maybe Erica, you could say a couple of words, please. >> An honor to, sir. Charlie loved you. It's hard not to get emotional because I know that he would have been the first phone call when he found out that you were going to be taking this position. And the way that I was able to witness the two of you work together for years and to champion and support the president was absolutely humbling to witness. And I am so proud of you. and Charlie is going to be with you every single day um in spirit and I will be praying for you every day because I know that this is just the beginning of an incredible opportunity for you and and sir, thank you for um allowing Sergio to have this beautiful moment. >> Thank you very much. Thank you. >> That's just an ambassador to India swearing in ceremony. Again, if that's your friend, you want to be there, that makes sense. You're she's also a person um and she can decide what she what she wants to do there. But the point that I am making is that's a coastal flight that she made to be there to watch a paper get signed. She has also made time for an upcoming CBS News town hall sit down with Barry Weiss which was filmed today. So Erica Kirk has time. She has time. It is just what she means to say not her priority which is you are allowed to prioritize things in your own life but the this is not a matter of time constraint. It is not her priority to respond to the majority. Actually, the majority of people think of this as BS. The majority of people think Turning Point is acting suspicious and she does not feel that it is what she wants to do um as a matter of priority responding. Okay, that's fine. Now, to that point that people are making hundreds and thousands of dollars I just don't get how there's not someone on this uh very large PR team as we're seeing these PR campaigns go out that doesn't go hey maybe we should strike that you know like you know they made 40 40 million like two nights ago at Mara Lago maybe doesn't maybe that feels kind of a little bit like let them eat cakeish oh and we've made more than separately from Mara Lago Turning Point USA since Charlie was killed just so you guys know this is a fact has made more than $100 million that is separate from the $40 million they made at Marago the other night. So since Charlie has died, that organization has taken in $140 million. But gosh darn you people that are making hundreds of dollars every day on YouTube talking about Charlie Kirk's assassination and the BS narrative that is being fed and the very obvious psychological operation that is being employed to make you accept the BS that they are trying to sell to us. Gosh darn you. Thousands. Did you make $1,000 today speaking about Charlie Kirk? Well, you should be ashamed of yourself, says Turning Point USA, who in large part made that money because of those very people who gave to the organization immediately following Charlie Kirk's assassination. And that the thing that is especially absurd about that is trying to like almost like I want to be clear that Turning Point USA is my family. The Charlie Kirk show is my family. You know, like she's she's just expanding the wings of people that we're not allowed to critique because they're in the family. If you call them fam, you can't you can't critique them, right? Oh, I'm sorry. Uh we actually are showing a clip of of Rob McCoy defending a pedophile or trying to like launder reputation of uh uh that's fam. That's the CK show, fam. Oh, I'm sorry. Uh, we are actually pointing to the fact that we know for certain that this person, your organization is a sexual deviant. Uhhuh. Uhhuh. That's fam. That's my bet is my Don't you get me upset. I know that this is a now $150 million in the last three-month organization and we employ tons of people. But you can't you can't critique you can't critique the fam. And I hate to say this, but I'm going to be very clear here. This is why there are many people who do not believe that women are equipped to lead companies because what you are watching here is an unbelievably emotional response that is absent of any logic. Okay? If you really care about your team, answer the questions. Okay? Just demystify the entire event. Answer, come out, sit down, answer the questions so people don't think Turning Point USA looks so suspicious. Don't try to like mom the organization and say, "Well, mother's upset cuz people are coming after her kids and all of the subsidi multi-million dollar subsidiaries. That's my children." Okay. The the multi-million dollar subsidiaries turning point like Turning Point action, all that. Those are my kids. So, you can't critique them. Not a good idea. Okay. It may work in PR world. You guys, I know have a It's an obvious PR campaign. It's never been more obvious of a psychological operation. I actually wish they would put me on payroll so I could help them make these things look more organic than having every single person that has been telling us to stop asking questions all make the exact same video within 4 seconds of each other being like, "Whoa, whoa, ERICA KIRK SHUTS DOWN the con." No, she didn't even respond to one of the conspiracies. She gave us emotion. She gave us emotion. She said, "I'm a mother. I am a wife." And we never asked about whether she was a mother or wife. We want to know if she is a CEO and a chairman. And a CEO and a chairman has to compartmentalize. A CEO and a chairman cannot respond to valid questions and critiques about finances, about shady actions that are being taken by people that require presidential pardons, people that are meaningfully asking uh why we are not getting a clear answer of what took place in September 10th. the CEO, okay, does not get to respond and say, "That's my family, okay? That's my that's my that is what I that's the energy of what I would expect from a mother speaking to a teacher, which I I was this mom." Like, that's my kid. Okay. And there I'll shut this down right now. That's my child. This is not a child. Turning Point USA is an organization. And Erica already had an uphill battle to climb like that. She had to climb this because, by the way, just because if if this was Goldman Sachs and the president of Goldman Sachs or managing director over at Goldman Sachs died in a horrifically violent way, the Goldman Sachs family uh might mourn for a couple of months, but they would have instantly had someone to replace that individual. And beyond that, they would have never accepted the the public and and the people that um are investing money. They would have never accepted, well, he's gone, but here's his wife. She already had an up a hill to climb here, right? Like, this does not make you qualified because you love someone to take on their job. I am not qualified to do what my husband does. That's why I said I would I wouldn't want to be the CEO and the chairman of a company. Actually, there's a great clip of Jordan Peterson asking that very question. Like why do women want to be like why would you want to have it's actually a lot of work and it's very stressful and it's a lot of numbers and you're crunching numbers and you have to be everywhere. Okay, if you want that great if you built the company and you're in the room like Charlie Kirk did and you have proven to the public like hey I built this company I didn't even go to college and I've been doing this for over a decade as Charlie Kirk did. You've earned that street cred. Okay. So, she already had a hill decline because now they're saying, "Well, this is his wife." And so, you know, that's it. Well, now you're gonna have to prove that you have the ability to be a CEO and a chairman and not just a wife who we expect a motion from. And you have you're rightful in that capacity. You are rightful to have a motion. You are rightful to be the agrieved widow, but you don't get to just be widowed into the position of chairman and CEO. don't get to respond to well in this case investors, donors who have given money and are asking meaningful questions with no you don't you you you don't you don't get replies right now cuz this this is the Charlie Kirk show fam doesn't work this way. Okay. Um, and the broader point removed from Erica, which a lot of these mockingb bird influencers seem to be making, is essentially they're saying to us that scientific inquiry and investigation in and of itself is now patently wrong. Right? Essentially, we should just trust the state. Don't believe your own instincts. Don't believe your own eyes. Don't ask any questions. And I really want to stress to you guys how utterly ridiculous that logic is, right? Because if we followed that logic in any other situation, there would never be a crime solved ever. Okay? If we just ascribed to the idea that scientific investigation is on its face wrong, it would not work. I'll give you a crappy ana an analogy here. But imagine if there's like some young mother and she dies suddenly in the middle of the night, presumably in the middle of the night and her husband is the first one to report it in the morning and the cops show up who happen to be his buddies. They get there and then they dramatically close the case in 48 hours and neighbors are like, "Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Excuse me officers. Actually, you might want to know some other facts here about this guy." Like, you know, he's in the mafia. These people would be like, "How dare you question the people closest to he loved her. That's his wife. Being a gang member is not evidence. Why are you saying he's a gang member? It's not evidence." And you got another nosy neighbor who produces evidence that in the middle of the night before she died, they saw the guy uh outside, the husband outside removing cameras in the front yard. That's not evidence. Yeah, but I saw him go out in the middle. He He put something in his car in the trunk. He was looking shady. That's not evidence. How dare you find that to be suspicious? More nosy neighbors start discussing and they were like, "Hey, we heard him." They were having actually a heated argument before she was found dead. It was I think it was about money. All of a sudden, next thing you know, you got Ally Stucky from the HOA. She blasts out an email and she says, "It's unbiblical. It's unbiblical to gossip. Hearing an argument is not hard evidence. You have no right to discuss it." Yeah, we're the nosy neighbors. Okay. We put together a list of 20 verifiable lies. that have been told in the weeks following this sudden death event. And uh yeah, we we have some questions. So, we're not going to accept Tim Pool jumping on the airwaves with big estrogen energy telling us we're evil because we have like school board elections next Thursday. We're the nosy neighbors. We don't care about the elections coming up. We want to know whether or not we are in bed with people who are capable of murder. people that are capable of covering up murders. Actually, we, the nosy neighbors, feel a little bit less safe in this neighborhood until we know whether or not there are some psychopathic killers in our midst. How about that? That's how I feel. I think that's how a lot of people feel right now. So, I want to express that. And this psychological campaign filled with emotional manipulation and how dare you and oh, the you know, the agreed widow speaks and so we you're not allowed to question a $150 million organization. No, I reject it. I reject that 100%. Uh, which is why I will say it has arrived as a blast of fresh air that on this very same day, Tucker Carlson is is standing up to the nonsense. He's not speaking about Erica, obviously. He is friends with Erica, but just the nonsense of what the FBI is saying. He's waiting in and saying, "Yeah, the FBI is not being clear in what happened, and I have questions." Uh because and I think it feels like a fresh air, a blast of fresh air because I and I know many people at home are seeing all of these people that we followed and we thought that they were hero heroes and suddenly this assassination has exposed them all to be frauds, you know, like for the right price they will join operation mockingb bird. For me personally, that is how I feel. Okay. like people in the military that I thought were forthright, people that were um uh journalists that I thought were forthright. I just am so let down and I don't think I would have been able to to handle if Tucker Carlson was among those people. The you need hard evidence as if the killer was going to walk in and be like, "Okay, here's how I did it. Okay, I'm gonna give you the hard evidence. I was here, here, there." Like what? [snorts] Instead, Tucker Carlson is coming out and he is blasting the corporate and the Fed narrative with common sense. Uh, he joined Theo Vaughn and here is what he had to say. Take a listen. >> I don't understand the official story at all. Uh, I assure that there is a like a truly rigorous and honest federal investigation of it. And I'm definitely concerned about that. A B the ID I think that um one of the I don't know many of the details but I know that uh recently Candace said that uh Egyptian registered aircraft were following uh Erica Kirk Charlie's widow around for a number of years in different places in the world. That's one of the weirdest things I've ever heard. And I just want to say that that is factually true. >> That's true. So that's like the one data point that I happen to know is true. What does that mean? I have literally no idea. I can't even guess but that's very very strange. >> And what does Egyptian could mean? Aircraft from Egypt. Who knows? >> I think that they were registered in Egypt and um so but that that fact is true. So I that enough um and and it also her claim that you know there were kind of a disproportionately large number of foreign registered cell phones at the event. Um that's also true. So what does that add up to? I don't know. But it it means that, you know, the FBI has a moral and legal obligation to to look in every direction and to be open-minded as you would in any investigation, in journalism, in science. It's all the same process. I don't know the answer, and I'm going to sift through everything as open-mindedly as I can, as honestly as I can to get to what the truth is. That's again, that's science, that's law enforcement, that's journalism. It's all the same. That's justice. And I just want to make sure that is happening. And I just don't have a ton of confidence in the FBI or the men who run it. And I'm not saying that out of ignorance at all. >> That's a scary part, too. >> I'm not alleging anything. I'm just saying I think it's really important that we have that. >> That is what authenticity sounds like and that's what we're doing here. We are investigating, right? Sometimes you get something wrong, you correct it. But I was right about the Egyptian planes. And when you hear Tucker Carlson say that he is confirming that that part is true. What I take from that, Tucker Carlson has been very clear. He grew up with CIA agents. Okay, this is a guy who grew up in Virginia. His father, he learns after his father died, he thought he was just working with the CIA. No, his father was on the payroll of the CIA. So Tucker's friends are in the state. So, it you should take it um as a concrete fact that there's something up with these Egyptian planes and they were in fact following around Charlie and they were following around Erica as I told you. And that means people in the NSA, the CIA are confirming that that is real. And yet, just last week, what we got from Blake Nef, and I know he's untouchable, he's in the FAM, but I'm going to go ahead and touch that and say like this is not okay. The vibe is not right, is making a mockery of it. That is what we mean when we say none of this is passing the vibe check with Turning Point USA. There's no clear answers. There's mockery. There's laughter, but there's no clear answers. And the mockery and the laughter is not working. Neither are is this idea that well now the the widow has spoken. We're not dealing with the widow. We want the CEO and the chairman of Turning Point USA to answer. Okay, you got if you can't compartmentalize, then I don't see how you're going to be able to lead this organization in the future because Charlie Charlie worked. We knew who Charlie was cuz he was authentic. Okay? He didn't just go, "Well, I only make time for like big pocket donors, okay? He was hitting college campuses. He was speaking to people, understanding people. He was changing his ideas, and he was changing minds. and you are not changing my mind about the fact that something weird happened that day and that TPUSA is acting funny um because you you give her give it an impassioned plea and speak about Nehemiah on Fox News. Okay, none of it makes any sense. Anyways, Tucker then goes on and states the obvious predicament further, which is that we just don't have any faith in the government. Take a listen to him discussing some of these lingering questions. >> Here's what I am concerned about. two well a lot of things. One, he acted alone. Tell me how that worked. I don't you know, none of us really act alone. >> It's hard to go anywhere by yourself, too. >> Exact. Thank you. Exactly. He acted totally alone. Okay. You're going to have to prove that to me. It's totally possible. Anything is possible. Weird things have happened. We'll continue to. But if you're That's not my default assumption, and it shouldn't be yours. And their default assumption was we acted alone. Really? Why do you think that? What about life suggests that people typically act alone? When was the last time you acted alone in anything? thing I don't go, you know, right? So, a b we know that people had fornowledge of this because they posted about it on X and said Charlie Kirk is going to be killed on this date and he was. >> Is that true? >> Yes, it's true. >> But were they just guessing? Was it a guessing thing or every day? >> Maybe. Maybe. Have those people been interviewed? Have they been hauled in to FBI HQ and had a long conversation with how they knew that? Like, let's get really specific. Why did you post that? Who have you talked to? Like if I were doing this investigation, because I spent my whole life doing noncriminal investigations called journalism. Like what do we know is true? How do we find out? Call everybody. Be open-minded. It's like a very it's the same process. If I was doing this investigation, they would be at the very top of the list. Tell me how this guy who seemed normal became a radical trans furry murderer. It's not enough to tell me, "Oh, trans. I'm not protrans, by the way." Um, >> but was that the guy or his boyfriend? Well, exactly. Exactly right. Tell me how this guy >> became so radicalized that he murdered a stranger. Just I'm not saying it didn't happen. I'm saying I want an explanation for how it happened. Why wouldn't I? >> I agree. >> Oh, we can't talk about that because it'll, you know, prejudice the jury pool. Really? You're you've told the world that you have both a confession from him in his text to his boyfriend and the murder weapon with his fingerprints on it. I think you got a pretty solid case. So, why is it so difficult to just explain? So, I have said from the beginning, if you don't like what Candace Owens is saying, why don't you call her and offer a more plausible explanation for what happened? OH, SHE'S BAD. [screaming] SHE'S BAD. OKAY. I mean, I like her a lot. I don't think she's bad, but I love her actually, but let's just stipulate she's bad. But why wouldn't you do that? I >> I don't agree with some of the stuff that she the rabbit hole she goes down. But I don't even know. But I like the fact that she likes to dig in the garden, you know? Theoa, we are in this garden, okay? And we're not getting out of this garden uh with the Fed slop narrative. We're just not getting out of the garden with trying to emotionally manipulate us and say it's not this feels like COVID, right? It's it's not like COVID 19. It's like it's like Candace 19. It's another fake. It's a fake virus. Like, oh, you get infected, you just can't do it. Six feet social distancing from Candace Owens. We're going to get every influencer on social media. Six feet social distancing. Save lives. What are you, a grandma killer? What? You just don't like what? [laughter] And then Tim Tim's all fired up because she's a c-word. People are going to die if YOU DON'T GET THIS VACCINE. And I'm like, I feel like maybe the government's not telling us the truth. We're right back to that. But it's Candace 19. It's Candace 19. That's what it is. And they think that it it maybe if they put the little six feet social disting pads in the grocery store that that the SCOP will win and make us believe that this is like like common sense is the virus. I'm the common sense virus. It's coming around. It's so evil. Stay at home, wear a mask, save lives. You don't want to catch it. You don't want to catch the common sense, you guys. You don't want to catch it. Anyways, um I dare. I'm sorry. I dare. And I have been very careful cuz I wasn't sure what direction she was going to go if she was like I was like look she's got a whole business that she's got to figure out. There's a lot of people in her ear. Maybe they like did this transition too quickly and she's just like keeping her head like no. What she's saying is Turning Point USA is untouchable. And it's a no from me. But you know me. I'm I'm just out here uh saying what needs to be said. We'll be right back after brief message from our sponsors. All right you guys. is when they double down on abortion. We know that we have to double down on supporting life. Through our partnership with Preborn, we can help save babies and support mothers in need. 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You guys, Candace 19 is crazy. Okay, I'm worried. You trust the influencers. You know, people are in the chat saying, "We need some Candace 19 merch." Yeah. Uh, don't go Max, get the Vax. That's what M That's what Mark is saying. We should We'll get We're going to get some gear for you guys. Don't go Max, get the vax. That's That's the vibe right now. How many influencers is it going to take to get everyone to roll up their sleeves and not go Max? That's where we're at right now. How many people do you have to send out to tell them, "Please, please do it." Wild. Okay. I didn't get the vax. I didn't get the co 19. I'm about get whatever the heck this is. Okay. Uh which is honestly on its face federal stupidity is what it is. Now, I can also tell you that because my mommy sleuths, they're they're so fast. Before stuff even ends, I I get tips about things and Erica literally today sat down with Barry Weiss. It's It's been marketed all over. They're going to have this big sitdown, a conversation moderated by Barry. It's going to feature voices from across the political spectrum. They're going to talk about grief. And I got this email after and it's interesting. I got actually a couple of emails, but I'm going to read this one to you because it was a town hallish event. Here's what they said went down. This person writes, "I just came from the CVS." By the way, whoever wrote this email, I love you. I just love all the mommy sloops that are this quickly that are this quick. They wrote, "I just came from the CVS Times Erica Kirk town hall." And this is what she said about the conspiracies and Candace. One, Erica said she was pregnant when the Egyptian planes were flying and following her, so she wasn't on them. She said she has photo proof. Huh? I'm sorry. Did I ever accuse Erica of being on Egyptian planes? When I found the Egyptian planes, I was concerned that they were following Charlie because I thought, "Wow, has there been a foreign government that has been tracking his events like maybe I don't know like running through the operation early and then we broughten it broadened it when someone clue us into the fact that actually these planes have been following Erica." You just heard Tara Cross confirm that. Um, I thought she'd be concerned. Instead, she's she's going to tell us on Saturday that she wasn't on the planes. I never said you were on the planes. Why would I think you were on the Egyptian planes? I don't like Well, that would be I don't think that you took off and went to Wilmington, Delaware. I know you didn't go to Wilmington, Delaware on day of char assassination. I find that answer to be lacking. Okay, that is weird to me. It's a weird answer to give. And by the way, you can fly when you're pregnant. Even if you were on the gy, that's a possibility when you're pregnant. So, I don't understand that part at all. Um, two, when Barry asked her about the conspiracies and what she had to say to those saying them, Erica said, "Stop." No. Three, not about Candace, but she talked about Israel and said good things about Jews and how TPUSA is having Shabbat dinner. [laughter] No, this I didn't read that before we went live at Fest. Okay. Okay, you guys, I want you to know in addition to the fact that Charlie in the last couple of days wanted people to know that Mikey is fantastic and super califragilistic ispelidocious and he had this whole vision and that Rob McCoy was his favorite pastor. Um, and that you should buy Josh Hammer's book. He also wants you to know to just be a Jew. I think we we get it. We get it. Those are his last words. Okay. Uh, we get it. Just like, okay. Okay. Anyways, moving on from that. I want to say to the 39 bajillion of you who were in the military who emailed us to let me know that I misspoke yesterday. Okay, I even said to you ahead of time. I said, I don't know military vernacular. I don't know these terms. It's like another language and you guys are not aware of yourselves. Okay, so you critiqued me for saying E4, E3 when I should have said ' 06. I'm jotting down these notes. I'm having a conversation. I'm trying to fact check things. And for me, I was focusing on the timeline of where he was. I was like getting all of the proof from our our military guy who was there for this meeting on September 9th and se and saw someone on September 8th as well. Um, and he I I misspeak. Okay, because you guys basically speak Japanese. You don't realize you do, but you do. You speak Japanese. And I said E4, E3. And I went back and I checked my notes and actually he said 06s. Thank you. Thank you for your 26 billion emails to let me know that I don't know is about the military. Okay? It was a human error. I made it very clear that I am just I am ignorant when it comes to military. I will own that. And so please just be nice to me sometimes where it's a lot of information, a lot of researching. And I just wanted to confirm he said he was where he said he was and take those notes. Uh but no, he did not. He he was very clear. I checked the notes that he had said ' 06. I think I made the mistake when I transferred my notes because he said uh colonels or captains. Then I was I Googled it and then I edited it thinking that maybe I heard him wrong. Um it was over a 1-hour phone call. Anyways, regarding him, for those of you guys that emailed us, I told you you can trust that we are not just taking a thumbs up from someone. There's a lot of research that goes into all of these things and we were able to confirm everything he said was real. He gave us his card that he swiped on to the base and now because you guys sent so many emails and actually people who were on that base in Arizona, the Wuka uh base in Arizona, adding further credence to his claim is we've been able to since verify two more things uh from other people that are currently stationed there. First and foremost, I should tell you we have a positive ID on Captain Nef. He was not sure who Cap what Captain Nef's first name was. It was in fact Adam Nef. And I'm sure captains have different names, but Adam Nef of the 10th Mountain Division is the individual. Uh I sent picture options to him as your emails were coming in and then someone said, "Adam Nef, I sent it and he confirmed that that is the correct person." Um there were several obviously but Adam Nef was leading the interrogation of him and it checks out because that is the division from New York. Also we have now confirmed and this is exciting because we got a lot of emails going oh like if this was really this like meeting it would people wouldn't have known it was taking place they would have used a like you know empty building or something like that. Well, guess what? We have confirmed from people currently stationed on the base that JTF is indeed using a building. I'm not going to name the building. I know the exact one because I don't want to uh I don't accidentally violate national security, but effectively they are borrowing a building. So, it's effectively unmarked in that sense. and that that building has been turned into, please forgive me if I get this wrong, but I'm reading it direct from the email, SCIF, which stands for a sensitive compartmented information facility. Okay, so they have since added barbed wire around that facility for additional security. Uh, cell phones and other electronics are not allowed. This is where he saw the meeting, by the way. um unless they are government issued, they are not allowed in that building and it requires top clearance to be granted access into that building. Again, we have now verified this outside of this individual who was definitively telling the truth. He sent me so much documentation that it was like I I could have showed you everything. I mean, his old passport, his new passport, his military ID card, hotels, books, times, text messages, phone call logs with his wife. It just really is a circumstance that this man has either the worst or the best luck ever when it comes upon when it comes to him sort of stumbling upon military operations, right? First, he finds this this cartel tunnel when he's 20. Now, we fast forward, he's 56, and he just was getting some coffee and someone's like, "Yeah, actually, yeah, no, that's that's the old boys are getting back together in this unmarked building." And he stumbles in there. It also, by the way, does provide an explanation for why they panicked when he just walked in there because they were like, he should not have known that this building was here. They didn't buy his excuse. It's, you know, 7 hours later, they allowed him to leave or or Captain Nef allowed him to leave. Now, we can also give you some more information that gets really interesting. Okay, remember Harry who told me that seeing that many I is it I hope it's 06 is it 06 do not email me okay he said it is not common unless and he specifically said there were some high ranking congressional member or someone close to like you the president like a via the vice president well we received another tip that makes things especially compelling so I'm going to just read you this email in its entirety we have fact checked it is true trust us to fact check stuff. By the way, by the way, uh, by the way, guys, we would not just randomly be like, "Thumbs up." We're just going to go with that. This person writes, "I just wanted to bring to your attention that on September 8th, that's when he says that he saw some funny business, 2025, a US government plane, uh, a special air mission plane caught my eye. This is what I found about that particular plane that is based out of Andrews Air Force Base. Uh shown as Camp Springs below. US Air Force C37A Gulfream is a uh Gulfream 5 is a VIP jet uh part of a unit that caters to senior members of the executive branch and Congress. Plane number is 99-044 as you'll see on the screenshot below. On September 7th, the plane flew from Andrews to Colorado Springs. On September 8th, it flew from Colorado Colorado Springs to Tucson. Then 5 hours later from Tucson and then the transponder appears to be turned off. However, at 12:31 p.m. on September 9th, it flies from Fort Wuka to El Paso and then El Paso back to St. Andrews. Now, why is that interesting? Okay, because that means the timeline that he gave us is exactly right. This meeting took place in early in the morning. I think it was what 7:37 where all this happened and and and then he's saying he said he assumed it was like a high ranking congressional person um or somebody that potentially could be in the cabinet. This guy is saying that's what that plane is used for. Um and he also brings in El Paso. Remember El Paso, Texas is where all those weird flights were coming from on the day of Charlie Cook's assassination. So, that is extremely compelling. And like I said, having spoken to this individual who is planning to come out and do podcasts and speak about that. He's trying to figure it out, which I'm going to help him with um this weekend to figure out whose show we can go on and speak more. It's lining up like this is this is actually tracking. I had a sense when I spoke to him that his memory could be trusted. Okay. He was very forthright. He was very honest. I mean, he was so honest that he was like when I said, "Oh, is it maybe this, Captain Nef?" He was like, "Ma'am, like I I don't want to give you any information that's wrong. I would put that at about maybe 65 60 to 65% that it could be this person until I gave him the correct nef and he was like 100% that's the guy um that questioned me." So, I trust I trust him. And um by the way, his his heart exploded when I told him about all the emails of people that were in the military currently that are were very moved by his story. um people who have had the experience of doing the right thing in the military and be treating being treated as though they did something wrong for doing their job and serving the American people. Everybody knows there is corruption everywhere, especially at the top. And to all the service members that sent those emails, I want you to know that he was he said he was close to tears and he was just on his knees, him and his wife just thanking God because they they never thought their story was ever going to come out about what happened to him when he was 20. And that is just something that that is really that's why I said there's so much God in this because [laughter] like he either has the best or worst luck but he just happens to be in the wrong place at the right time maybe in the right place at the wrong time who knows history will tell us. Continuing the rest of that email from the person who gave us that tip about this plane, uh he concludes it by saying, "This is the only time that I have noticed that this plane was in Fort Wuka. If your contact that you mentioned yesterday saw this group of men in the morning, it could line up well with what this air that with this aircraft leaving at 11:43 a.m. on the 9th. From other searches I've done, it appears that Pam Bondi flew on this plane approximately 5 months ago from Tampa area back to DC. I am looking into other flights. Please be safe and God bless. Guys, we have a clue and we should we should keep going with that. I just I don't know. I when he contacted me, it was the way I told you it went about me praying and like and then suddenly I get this email. I speak to him and he's like so credible and just gives everything. I think we need to keep proddding this narrative of what happened and what he said that he saw and he described it uh as a meeting that when the operation is being finalized a finalization meeting that and he he seems like he knows what he's speaking about. So uh that's what I have for you guys today. Oh wait, there's also something else about that plane. I got to bring in Mark to mansplain it. Uh I'll just bring you on Mark. I'm not even going to tee you up there. Just come on. Thank you. Thank you. Great introduction. So, I was looking at the uh the logs for that flight and the flights in question are towards the center of the screen. You can see it goes from Tucson, the transponder goes dark. That's what that that dash means there. But what really stood out to me were the call signs, which are basically the fourth column from the left. So, you can see it's using RCH, which is reach. That's a standard Air Force call sign designator. But when someone important on the is on the plane, it switches their call sign to SAM, which stands, as you said, for special air mission, which is typically reserved for people like the vice president, cabinet secretaries, senior officials of the executive branch, congressional deleg delegations, and other senior political leaders. So what that tells me is the call sign from Tucson to Fort Wuka is a standard reach. Everything before that is as well. But once it gets to Fort Wuka and takes off, it switches to SAM. So that tells me they picked up someone of that stature in Fort Wuka. And then just to avoid confusion, the Venus call sign is just when the plane is empty. It doesn't have anyone on it. >> It's actually very very helpful. And I think like I said there there's something here. There is definitely something here. And I do believe that God put that man again. [laughter] He has the worst luck. Our guy Harry has the worst lockdown or the best lockdown in Fort Wuka, but um I'm I'm I'm certainly glad he was there. So, we'll you'll definitely be hearing from him directly. I would assume next week I'm going to help him figure things out. He's like, I don't know how to work these podcasts and, you know, computers and how to get my message out there. We will definitely assist. Uh we'll take a brief break and come back after some sponsors. All right, you guys want to tell you about Pure Talk because as a consumer, you carry the success or the failure of businesses in the palm of your hand. 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Yeah, it was a conspiracy when uh Judas betrayed him and it was for money. like that might be a relevant narrative when you're out here like trying to make it seem like it's never happened in the history of the world. It has happened and yeah, I don't know. He was denied that he he was denied just as he said. So I I want to just be clear that it is of course plausible. It is very plausible um is more than plausible that when a company grows that size, there are people that become motivated. um by things that are not just truth and justice and things that feel sparkly and sprinkly and like make you feel good on the inside. Okay. Reality is is life is ugly. Okay. Many people have to deal with deceit and dishonesty the bigger they get. And we heard that from Charlie's own mouth what he was going through. Okay. I wouldn't have guessed his last uh words were effectively as if if we're all getting the vibes here like you know just like go be a Jew, but um I don't know. I just I feel like he was under pressure actually from a lot of his Jewish quote unquote friends and not even there hasn't even been any honesty provided from Turning Point USA in that regard. It's like we're getting no honesty at all. And I'm wondering why because this feels like a very poorlyun PR show. Anyways, you guys, um, if you would like to support our independent work, you can head to candace.com and buy some merch. I promise you we will get you Candace 19 merch because that's amazing. Actually, that's what's happening. Okay, we're right back there. and we will tell you not to go Max and to instead get the vax and hopefully you will listen to us cuz we are the government and we can always be trusted. We are the government. We can always be trusted here at kennoans.com. You guys can also purchase my book which we're going to get into a little bit more about tomorrow. Feminism, the backstory of feminism is is so much darker than most people understand. Uh make him a sandwich.com if you'd like to buy it from us directly. You can also head to Amazon now, throw it in your cart. Um, and we are now also shipping to Canada. Make him a sandwich.com. Okay, let's get to some of your comments before the influencers come out and tell you it's evil. Evil after that Fox News hit for us to say, "Actually, I still have questions." They do. The top comment from yesterday is they want us to believe that Charlie's neck was made of steel and the Twin Towers were made of neckbones. Got it. Yeah, we're at that stage of a psychological operation. That's it. Uh, none of it's making sense. That is so well put. It is upside down land. Laughing Cats Music World writes, "And thank you, by the way. That's a massive donation. Vital to separate flaws from race. We can criticize corrupt Jews without blanket anti-semitism. Critiquing George Floyd because he died of fentinel in the hospital isn't hating black people. Stop equating criticism of Israel. Soros, etc. with Jew hating or self-hating if you're Jewish and critical of all governments including Israel. Most people are not racist. Uh and then this person is making the joke maybe Blake Nef. I didn't look into the Blake Nef thing or why he left uh Fox News. Uh because I'm just more interested in his military connections cuz that caught me by surprise. But you are absolutely on the money. Obviously, we can criticize people and this sort of cheap tactic of being like, "Oh, well, you it's kind of the same thing we're talking about. It's emotional manipulation." It's like, "Whoa, is it what are you saying?" And it's like, "No, there is corruption everywhere." And you are not removed from corruption because of who you work for, what you look like, what sex you are. It is always plausible and actually highly plausible typically when money is involved. Uh, Lulu Mallerie writes, "The more I watch, the more fake and gay things are. We all have been given the light of Christ to discern truth from lies. Candace speaks truth. Go Max, Candace. Charlie deserves nothing less. You are correct. And I don't trust the feds and I don't believe uh that that is a sufficient enough answer that well we're giving we're telling the feds to do that. Well, I can tell you the feds are not doing that because I was the one who said I had the information about the French Foreign Legion being on the ground the day that Charlie was assassinated and the feds have not reached out to me. So, shouldn't that concern Erica? Shouldn't she be like, "Hey, why didn't you why didn't you reach out to me and say like, you know, hey, I'd like the information if if no one's reached out to you." Like, why is that not happening? This is what I mean when I say that the reaction doesn't feel to the public as what we and and yeah, I'm generalizing here because there is such a thing as a general response. what we would do in the same circumstance, like we would be like, "Whoa." Even if I trusted the feds and I trusted my legal team and trusted their analysis that there was just one person involved, as soon as some podcaster was like, "Hey, I found Egyptian planes." And they're being kind of shady. I would be like, "Whoa, that is weird. Are we What's up with the Egyptian planes? They're just making jokes that that there's something not right with that." like making jokes about something that you you should be concerned at the very least about. Even if it turned out that it led nowhere, which it has not turned out that it led nowhere, it actually led somewhere and it's been confirmed. Why are you not concerned? I just need an answer for why they are never concerned. Merryill Gerston Meyer writes, "It seems to me Erica's moral outrage is manufactured more for an elite target audience as opposed to those normal folks who want to solve the actual murder. It does feel I would say it feels elite. I don't have time for the little people. Okay. I don't have time for you know your small pocket donors. I got time but like it's going to be spent with power. It's going to be spent in the West Wing. It's going to be spent raising $40 million at Mara Lago. When we say building, what we mean is like a financial arsenal. uh and that it's easier to appease people um who are billionaires than to build a grassroots movement. That's what Turning Point USA was. It is not anymore clearly, but it was a grassroots organization. That was the pitch. That was why I worked for them. The idea that you could get on the ground when nobody knew us, nobody knew me and Charlie, and we could get on stage and we could convince people of what we believed in. Okay. Every conversation mattered in those times. Every debate mattered. Every feeling that a person had, even if it was valid or not valid, it mattered. And now we get the sense that this is the RNC. So if you ain't spending for a table, you ain't getting a response. Okay? Cuz we busy. We very busy. H Biz writes, "Who was the woman in the pickup truck?" I don't know who the woman was in the pickup truck, but you're referring to what Harry I I mean Harry thinks he has an idea and he should come out and he should share his story. Um I would be interested to see if he is like I said I can tell you he was factually there but the meeting happened now exactly as he said it happened at exactly what time he says it happened. I cannot confirm his own eyes. I can't confirm his memory of who he believes he saw. We can't confirm that it was Brian Harpole. can't, you know, was it a Brian Harpole lookalike? Do a lot of military men look the same? He is certain he saw Brian Harpole. Give him time to come out and tell his story. Um, servant of Yahweh writes, "Who was the young woman in the Candlewood Suites hotel with the special ops guy? They left in the green truck on September 8th. If you or anyone you know works at that hotel and that has that security footage, please get it to Candace before it gets deleted." I would imagine if he is right that footage is deleted, but that would still be a clue if it was deleted. So yeah, if you work for the Candlewood Suites Hotel at the military base, could you check that footage please for us on September 8th? More tips at candace Owens.com is who you can send that tip to. What you do staying at the Candlewood Suites Hotel. Sorry, that's an old hip-hop song. I'm I'm out of control. I need I obviously I'm sorry, guys. This is a new strand of Candace 19 and it's resistant. It is absolutely resistant even even to the vax. So anyways you guys, we're going to keep going Max and um I am going to keep on this see what comes of this. We will see you guys tomorrow.