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Candace Owens confirms her fifth pregnancy while exposing disturbing new details about Charlie Kirk's death. Owens reveals that Brian Harpole attempted to gift Charlie's blood-stained bag to podcast host Shawn Ryan following the assassination. She challenges Erika Kirk's claim of being involved in Turning Point USA operations, presenting audio evidence that contradicts the widow's public statements. Owens maintains her theory that a shaped charge in Charlie's microphone caused his death, citing support from military explosive ordinance disposal technicians. She also confronts Pastor Rob McCoy's sermon attacking her investigation and Blake Neff's attempt to discredit Tucker Carlson's statement about Charlie's murder being related to his Israel views rather than transgenderism.
Pregnancy Announcement and Death Hoax
Candace Owens opened the show by confirming what her audience had already suspected: she is pregnant with her fifth child, another boy. Owens revealed that her viewers detected the pregnancy within the first four weeks through her changed demeanor, particularly what she describes as an increasingly aggressive attitude that accompanies carrying male children. She humorously acknowledged that her audience knew before she did, saying she found out from comments asking if she was pregnant.
Owens also addressed a disturbing death hoax that circulated over the weekend while she was recording a four-hour interview at Shawn Ryan's studio. Messages flooded in from family members after someone posted and then deleted a claim that Owens had passed away, followed by an obituary website listing her date of death as Sunday. Despite warnings not to go out, Owens refused to live in fear, stating that "a bird can't fly in a cage." She confirmed she did not die over the weekend, but rather the opposite—she is growing life.
Disturbing Revelations from Shawn Ryan's Production Team
During her visit to Shawn Ryan's studio, Owens had conversations with the production team that yielded shocking information. The team described Ryan's studio as a museum filled with artifacts from military missions and significant events, to which people frequently contribute items. According to the production team, Brian Harpole—the man now suing Owens—offered to contribute Charlie Kirk's blood-stained crossbody bag to the museum as a gift. The offer was declined because, as Owens noted, it's "weird to offer that to somebody as a gift."
The production team also revealed that after Brian Harpole's interview, they were in discussions to potentially interview Erika Kirk. What struck Owens as odd was that these booking conversations were being conducted with Terryl Farnsworth, the audiovisual company operator who announced on camera that Charlie was dead and took down the camera at the scene. Owens questioned why an audiovisual technician would be involved in booking interviews for Erica at all.
The Farnsworth Family Connections
Owens explored the deep connections between Erika Kirk and the Farnsworth family, noting that these relationships predate Erica's relationship with Charlie. The Farnsworth clan has ties to Tyler Bowyer's family from Chandler, Arizona, where they all attended high school together. Eddie Farnsworth and his brother were among those who brought Lori Frantzve (Erica's mother) into government contracts in Arizona before Erica ever met Charlie. This is documented in Arizona congressional files showing Lori presenting on the House floor.
Owens revealed that Turning Point USA has six buildings, and in mid-July, shortly before Charlie's assassination, Charlie had Terryl Farnsworth's team removed from his building at his request. They had been operating out of the building where Charlie's podcast functioned, but on July 24th, Terrell's team was kicked out. However, following Charlie's death, Terrell was immediately welcomed back into the building. Evidence of this includes a still photo from Erica's first Zoom call to the Turning Point team six days after Charlie was assassinated, where Terrell can be seen standing behind her in the Charlie Kirk building.
The Visual Impulse Team
Owens presented a detailed breakdown of the Visual Impulse team that was present the day Charlie was killed. Terryl Farnsworth headed the team, with his brother Brian Farnsworth also involved. Philip Goldsbury Jr., whose father is a pastor who started a charity for orphans in Romania, was identified. Parker Edwards, who attended the same high school as Terryl Farnsworth, was also present. His brother Aaron Edwards worked for Visual Impulse as well, and both attended Arizona State University. Owens noted these individuals all grew up together as part of the Farnsworth clan.
Robert Golo, originally from Liberia who moved to Arizona, was brought on to handle the redundant microphone setup in 2024. He was standing next to Terrell when Charlie was hit and ran off afterward. Owens expressed interest in learning more about Golo, as he has never spoken publicly about what he witnessed that day. She believes he still works in some capacity with Turning Point USA and asked viewers with information about him to contact her.
False Witness Testimonies About Chest Wound
Owens highlighted a disturbing pattern in the immediate aftermath of Charlie's death: multiple witnesses who spoke to the media claimed they saw Charlie shot in the chest, describing blood pooling around his heart. She played clips of these testimonies, including one person saying "I just saw it hit him in the chest and then all of a sudden just tons of blood gushing right out where his heart is," another stating "It was a direct shot to the heart," and a third describing "an eruption of blood come out of Charlie's chest."
Owens emphasized that these descriptions never happened. Charlie's shirt was clean, and anyone near him could see he was hit in the neck, not the chest. The blood came out sideways from the neck wound. She noted these were not guesses but specific, detailed descriptions provided to NBC News and other outlets—descriptions of events that never occurred. Owens plans to investigate who these individuals are and why they were giving false witness testimony that was "way too specific."
Shaped Charge Theory Explained
Owens maintains her theory that Charlie was killed by a shaped charge with patent explosives packed into his redundant microphone, comparing it to a firework that can be directed but not perfectly aimed. This theory, she argues, explains numerous oddities from that day: why bomb dogs weren't brought to the area, why the crime scene was quickly paved over, and why shattered ABS plastic was found in the back of a car.
She theorized that the shaped charge was intended to hit Charlie's chest, which would explain why witnesses immediately described chest wounds—they had been prepared to give those testimonies. However, something went wrong. Because of how Charlie was crouched, the charge accidentally hit his neck instead, creating a much larger problem for those involved. A chest wound from a shaped charge creating a 30-06 diameter hole could have been more easily explained than a neck wound that somehow stopped without going through.
This mishap, Owens believes, caused panic. That's why Terrell rushed to grab the SD card from the camera behind Charlie's head—they never intended for the incident to be captured on film. It's why Terrell immediately called Erica, and why Andrew Kolvet initially took the fall by claiming he "went rogue" with the Superman story about chicken bones in Charlie's neck stopping the bullet because he ate vegetables.
Erika Kirk's Evolving Story
Owens dissected Erika Kirk's recent appearance at an educator summit in Illinois, where she presented a new narrative about her involvement with Turning Point USA. Erica claimed she had zero learning curve when stepping into the CEO and chairman position because she had been involved in "literally as much as possible" with the organization. She stated she brought her kids to the office "pretty much daily" and knew all the employees by name, their families, backgrounds, and what programs they were working on.
Owens called this "an historically asinine lie," presenting audio evidence that directly contradicts Erica's claims. In a recording from after the Super Bowl, Erica told employees she was "looking forward to learning their names" because the kids now come to the office and tell her about the employees. Erica specifically said, "I want to know your name, your face, be able to pray for you guys," and discussed doing small lunch meetings with three people at a time because meeting everyone individually "would be a long day and time and month and year."
Past and current employees contacted Owens expressing shock at Erica's lies, confirming that she didn't know people's names and wasn't familiar with the organization. Even Aubrey, when she was fired, told Andrew Kolvet that "nobody knows who she is."
The Emergency Plan That Never Existed
Erica also claimed in her Illinois speech that she and Charlie always had an "emergency plan" about what would happen if something happened to either of them. She described having conversations about death threats, rape threats, and kidnapping threats, saying they confided in the team about this plan. However, Owens pointed out the obvious: if such a plan existed, it would have been memorialized in Charlie's will. It wasn't.
Owens noted that married couples do discuss what happens if something happens to one of them—that's why people create wills. But no relationship involves one spouse saying "I want to make sure you step into my role at work," nor do people generally know every detail of their spouse's day-to-day work operations. Owens emphasized that even she and her husband, who run a business together, can't tell you what each other's day-to-day looks like.
Furthermore, Owens highlighted that in Charlie's final presentation, which runs two and a half hours, he mentions Erica only once, saying she helps out with Turning Point Faith. That was the extent of her involvement—not running every department and knowing every employee, as she now claims.
Historic Precedent for Widow CEO
Owens challenged anyone to find another example in human history where a stay-at-home wife with no background in a company assumed her husband's role as CEO and chairman following his death. She tasked ChatGPT with finding examples and examined each one. Ellen Gordon took over Tootsie Roll Industries, but it was her family's company with a controlling interest, and she had worked there for years in increasingly senior positions. Katherine Meyer Graham became publisher of the Washington Post after her husband's death, but again, it was her family's company—her father purchased it and installed her husband to run it.
Miriam Adelson was suggested as an example after Sheldon Adelson's death in 2021, but she simply inherited his shares in a publicly traded casino business and never became CEO. Owens concluded that Erika Kirk is "exclusively now a human history feat"—the first woman in history to accomplish this transition, and she happens to be "by far, when you weigh her against all of the women that I just named, the dumbest and least accomplished person out of all of them."
Tucker Carlson's Statement
Tucker Carlson made waves over the weekend when he stated on the Can't Be Censored podcast that "Charlie Kirk was murdered" and that "he was most likely murdered for his evolving views on Israel," not for his opinions on transgenderism. Carlson noted that most people who knew Charlie well and were friends with him share this belief.
Owens pointed out that Charlie tweeted the night before his death that he was "left no option but to abandon the pro-Israel cause" because of severe bullying and financial threats. That same night, he was on a call with Israeli rabbis and Josh Hammer, supposedly to help him "fine-tune his debate skills"—despite Charlie having done this for a living for years and being smarter than all of them. The conversation was clearly related to his tweet about abandoning the pro-Israel cause, Owens argued. After that call, Charlie sent a message saying "they're going to kill me."
The official narrative expects people to believe that after this sequence of events—arguing with Zionists, tweeting about being forced to abandon the pro-Israel cause, warning that they're going to kill him—Charlie texted security worried about a trans person murdering him. Owens called this narrative one that "defies common sense."
Blake Neff's Betrayal
Blake Neff, who used to work for Tucker Carlson, responded to Tucker's statement by tweeting: "Actually, those of us who knew Charlie best, a group that doesn't include Tucker, do think that Tyler Robinson did it and was motivated by transgender radicalism. Tucker is lying."
Owens called Nef a liar and a backstabber, noting that he just stabbed Tucker in the back despite Tucker having been "so nice" about him. She revealed that audio will be released later in the week showing that the majority of people at Turning Point USA don't believe Tyler Robinson acted alone. She accused Nef of being "an annoying person that somehow got onto [Charlie's] podcast and nobody really knows how," sarcastically suggesting he claimed to be helping Charlie with debate points.
To counter Nef's claim that Tucker wasn't close to Charlie, Owens played audio of Andrew Kolvet on Charlie's show after his death, describing Tucker and Charlie's "unique and special bond and relationship" as a "deep friendship." Kolvet recounted how whenever Tucker came to do events, he would always meet up with Charlie, and Charlie would frequently cancel other plans saying "I got to do dinner. Tucker's in town."
Pastor Rob McCoy's Sunday Sermon
Owens featured a clip from Pastor Rob McCoy's recent sermon at Encounter Church in Las Vegas, where instead of preaching the Gospel, he spent time attacking Owens and her investigation. McCoy told his congregation that Owens "doesn't have any receipts" and is running "a carnal Christian soap opera." He claimed she's "making $800,000 a week" and accused the audience of "attacking a widow" based on "innuendo, supposition, vain speculation."
McCoy compared Owens's investigation to the Salem witch trials, which ended in 1692 when a minister named Increase Mather stopped them because they were based on "spectral evidence"—dreams and visions rather than actual witnesses. He said, "I had a dream. Charlie spoke to me. Sound familiar?" and told his congregants, "Some of you don't want to nod because you've been watching that garbage."
Owens responded with bewilderment, asking how anyone could attend church on Sunday expecting to hear the Word of God and instead hear a pastor talking about Candace Owens, her lawsuits, and making wildly exaggerated financial claims. She noted that even X users had to fact-check McCoy's false claim about her earnings. Owens questioned who walks into such a church and leaves feeling spiritually renewed, saying she loves that these pastors are exposing themselves, helping people "wake up to the megachurch and these minor pastors grifting Judeo-Christianity."
Military Explosives Expert Testimony
Owens shared an email from a viewer whose boyfriend and herself both work as military EOD (Explosive Ordinance Disposal) technicians, commonly known as bomb techs. The email explained that PETN is the main component in military and commercial blasting caps, with each cap containing less than one gram but dealing "major damage." The writer noted they've seen videos and know people who lost fingers or went blind from mishandling these blasting caps.
The email confirmed that shaped charges are very common in IEDs, with copper being the most common material, but noted that you can even use a wine bottle to make one. The writer stated: "I just thought that you should know, a lot of people who deal with rifles, explosives, and improvised explosives do not believe it was from a gun." Owens emphasized she has been receiving "tons of these emails from people in the military" who work with explosives and support her shaped charge theory.
Fort Huachuca Connection
Owens mentioned receiving emails from people telling her that at Fort Huachuca, there is a department that works in signals and could have assembled a rigged microphone like the one she theorizes killed Charlie. She stated she is communicating with people who know more about this and said, "If I find out they assemble things like this at Fort Huachuca, things are going to get a lot more interesting."
Evidence Handling Questions
Responding to viewer comments, Owens raised questions about why Brian Harpole's offering of Charlie's blood-stained bag wasn't in evidence, and why nothing from the scene went into evidence. The microphone didn't go into evidence—instead, it was used for a photo op with Erica in front of donors as she raised $40 million at Mar-a-Lago. Charlie's phone should have been kept as evidence but was quickly returned to Erica.
Owens argued this is why they needed to brand Erica as a "screaming widow"—so people wouldn't ask common sense questions about why evidence was being handed back to his wife instead of being properly preserved and investigated.
Video Transcript
All right, you guys. Happy Monday. I
hope all of the fathers out there had an
amazing Father's Day weekend. All the
dads that are actually good fathers, I
should say. If you're a bum, you you
don't count. You have to do better.
Anyway, I would like to formally
announce at the top of the show that you
guys were correct. I am with child. I'm
expecting another child. A lot of you
guys had sused that out. Genuinely,
within the first four weeks of my
pregnancy, I actually found out, I am
not kidding, that I was pregnant from
you guys, you guys were in the comments,
you were asking questions. You were
like, "Canis has a very unique attitude
that she's known to have when she's
pregnant with a boy. It's kind of sus. I
think she's pregnant." Yes, you were
correct. I learned from you. And then I
found out that that is indeed the reason
as it always is that I grow sort of
increasingly violent when I am for some
something about growing a boy inside of
you that makes you want to aggress.
That's how I feel. I don't understand
it, but I want to physically fight
people. The more pregnant I become, I
want to physically fight people. There's
nothing I can do about it. It's a
condition.
And yeah, a lot that we're going to
unpack today, but I wanted to get that
done at the top of show. let you guys
know that you are really annoying for
knowing first. I shouldn't be finding
this out from the internet. Who do you
guys think you are? Clearly, you know me
better than I know myself. Anyway,
welcome back to Candace.
Okay, I also want to mention here that I
was pregnant, truly a victim, when my
foot was broken and Cabbat Phillips
accosted me on the toddler playground.
Never forget what Cabbat Phillips did to
me in my early pregnancy with a broken
foot. Aosted. I'll never let it go,
Cabbat. I'll never let it go. Anyway,
over this weekend, something else
happened. I was actually on Friday um
recording at Sean Ryan's studio, his
podcast studio, and um he lives down the
road from me, was having a good time,
came out and realized cuz he does the
long format podcast, I think like four
hours, that there was a death hoax. And
I had all these messages from people, my
mom, my dad, my aunt, everyone that I
know asking me to post a sign of life
because apparently there was this combo
some girl uh posted and then deleted
that I passed away and then on top of
that there was some like obituary
website that said that I was going to
die on Sunday. So listed my date of
death as Sunday, which is totally crazy.
I don't know. I think people do these
things um to get into your head
psychologically. I did not die this
weekend. People were then emailing me
saying don't go out on Sunday because
this pre-obbituary exists. I did not
slow down my weekend in any way at all.
I just don't live in that I guess that
vein of fear. Uh because it's just
unhealthy. And every day we get emails
of people asking me don't go, don't
travel, don't do this, you can't I I
can't live in a cage. Bird bird can't
fly in a cage. So, I did a lot of things
this weekend, but dying was not one of
them. In fact, it's the opposite. I'm
growing life. So, be happy, smile. It's
great. I did indeed, however, sit down
with Shawn Ryan for a very long
interview, which will be dropping soon
and is sure to make a lot of heads
explode because we covered everything. I
mean, from my background to my beliefs
to Charlie's assassination, obviously,
to his widow. Nothing was off limits
because I never give people any limits
when they interview me. I'm an open
book. That's what I'm doing here on the
podcast. I will say, however, that he
seemed a little bit surprised to learn
that his one-time guest, Brian Harpole,
is suing me and extraordinarily trying
to spin this tail in the courts, that
the only reason he was forced to go on
the Shawn Ryan show, thereby making him
a limited public figure, was because of
me and my harassment, despite the fact
that I never uttered his name before he
went on the Shawn Ryan show and had that
disaster of an interview. So, it'll be
interesting to see if Shawn Ryan ends up
in this lawsuit because they have a
totally different memory of how he ended
up on that show. Interesting. Liars lie
all the time and get caught. But
something else very curious happened.
Okay, I got to tell you this. It's
always the production team that you want
to talk to when you do these sorts of
things. They know things. They have
secrets. Never underestimate the
producer, the cameraman, the control
room, the lighting director. They see
and they hear everything. They're
basically Intel everywhere. Okay. And I
always make small chat with that, you
know, just like, "Hey, who are you from?
I just like to know who everybody is."
And they he had a really fantastic team,
by the way. Like really just had it
together. But they did tell me something
that was frankly disturbing. Okay, so
Sean Ryan has this really amazing like
his studio. You don't get the full
effect of it on his show. It's basically
like a museum. And so people want to
contribute to the museum. He's got all
sorts of artifacts. Um, I can't even
begin to describe it because I feel like
I wouldn't do it any justice of people
who have, you know, who have um lived
through certain things or survived
things, various missions, a lot of
military stuff, and they get it over to
him and he puts it up in the museum.
Well, someone on Brian, someone on um
the team on on Shawn Ryan's team told me
that after seeing this museum, Brian
Harpole wanted to contribute to it. and
he offered Shawn Ryan Charlie Kirk's
blood on his bag as a gift. So, you
know, the the the crossbody purse purse
looking thing. Like I said, this is like
it wasn't a man purse. It was his like I
don't know. One of the things he sued me
over is because I described it
accurately, the cross body bag. And then
he went to Charlie after Charlie got
hit. He offered that bag with the blood
still on it to Shawn Ryan
and it was declined for obvious reasons
because it's weird to offer that to
somebody as a gift. Who would want that?
Why would you offer that? It's very
strange. I need to share that. I need to
get that off my chest. Second thing that
they said which was kind of just in
passing that I thought was strange was
that sometime after Brian Harpel's
interview, they almost interviewed Eric
Kirk. were in communication rather they
were in discussion conversation to
potentially interview Erica Kirk. Not
weird. She did do a bunch of interviews.
Obviously, she was promoting Charlie's
book. What I thought was odd was that
they were in communication to book that
with Terl Farnsworth,
the guy who announced on camera that
Charlie was dead, the guy who took down
the camera, the guy who runs the runs
the audiovisisual company. I'm like, why
would he be doing any bookings for
Erica? That's very strange. It's
actually very interesting why the
audiovisisual guy would be involved in
bookings at all. Uh remember we explored
this question of when did Erica and Terl
get so close? When did they get to know
each other? If you watched our series
Bride of Charlie, you know that the
Farnsworth family clan, it's a bit like
a little deep Mormon mafia. You know,
grew up with Tyler Boyer's family,
Chandler, Arizona. They all went to high
school together. their thickest thieves,
so to speak. And Eddie Farnsworth and
his brother um were one of the ones who
brought Lorie France Fay into those
government contracts in Arizona. This is
before Erica met Charlie. This means
Erica and the Farnsworth family, Tyler
Boyer, their relationships predate
Erica's relationship with Charlie. That
is a fact. That is literally recorded.
If you look into the Arizona
congressional files, you can see Lori
presenting on the House floor with her
um second husband, Larry Ginta.
Actually, third husband, Larry Ginta,
and Erica's stepfather. This is just a
fact. So, um something that's
interesting is in case you don't know
this, Turning Points campus has six
buildings in total. We're not giving you
anything that's not available through a
quick Google search. It's on Google
Maps. and Charlie's building, the one
that his podcast functions out of, and
has his um his podcasting team,
Kovette's team, and it used to have
Terrell Farnsworth's team upstairs, but
in mid July, so shortly before Charlie's
assassination, he had Terrell's team
kicked out of the office of his
building. Why? I'm not sure. I don't
know if it was because they were angry.
I don't know what was going through
Charlie's head, but he had been there
for a while and then he had them moved.
On July 24th, uh Terl's team at
Charlie's request was removed from the
building. Now, I'm entering in that data
point in case it's relevant down the
line. What we know is that
oddly he was immediately welcomed back
into the building following Charlie's
death. We know this because Terl is the
one that is standing behind Erica during
her first Zoom call to the team. the six
days after Charlie was assassinated,
she's not in bed crying. She's at the
office in the Charlie Kirk building and
it is Terl that is standing behind her.
Here's a still um a still photo from
that moment just to remind you. You can
see that person in the corner. That's
Terl. That's the camera guy. The fam is
back together. Terrell Farnsworth, in my
view, was not just suddenly shadowing
Charlie on these little college campus
events because they were trying
something new. As he said, in my
opinion, his new presence
always has disturbed me. His reaction to
Charlie dying obviously disturbing. His
excuses thereafter for why he rushed to
take specifically the SD card out from
the camera behind Charlie's head always
disturbed me. Right. I've never never
ever ever thought he was telling the
truth. Um, I spoke to Erica. I didn't
want her to relive Charlie dying. That's
what he said. Then we find out that
there was nothing gory on that
particular film because the bullet
didn't go through. So that's that's
actually what they were hiding. In my
opinion, the entire thing, his presence
feels off. Okay. Just feels off to me.
And when we look into the team that
Terrell brought that day, I just don't
like it. I don't like um that we were
recently able to identify as we did uh
Philip Goldsbury. I've also, by the way,
identified who one of the ops were from
back home. Remember I told you there are
apparently some ops who were watching
the live stream. I've been able to
verify one name. Okay. And I'm going to
pull up this graphic and and tell you
about this Visual Impulse team. Okay.
So, we know Terrell, he's there at the
top. Brian Fartsworth is his f is his uh
brother. Um Philip Goldsbury Jr. we
discover we told you about him. His
father is the pastor who of course
started a charity global ministries in
Romania because why wouldn't he?
Everybody's doing that. Everybody's
helping the orphans in Romania. That's
what everybody does here. This person
Parker Edwards who we don't have a photo
that we thought was appropriate to show
because it showed his entire family. But
Parker Edwards, we just dug into this
guy and it turns out that he went to the
same high school as Terrell Farnsworth.
This is like they all know each other.
They all graduated from the same high
school. Their families are families.
They have been friends for years. He
effectively grew up with the Farnsworth
clan. And so that's interesting that
he's there on the ground that day. Um,
also his brother Aaron Edwards worked
for Visual Impulse as well. Went to the
same high school, also went to Arizona
State University. They all know each
other. And the Farnsworth is a very
powerful family, uh, powerful Mormon
family. And then there's this guy,
Robert Golo, who I would like to know
more about. Okay. He was brought on, I
am told, of course, after I stopped
touring with Charlie when they started
doing the redundancy of the microphone
in 2024.
He's actually from Liberia
and then moved to Arizona, has been
working uh in, you know, obviously in
audio and visual. He's been the guy
behind the camera. He's the guy standing
next to Terrell when Charlie uh gets
hit, which I will not be saying. I'm not
going to say shot because that doesn't
feel right to me, but he's the one
that's next to him and then he runs off
and he was a new hire uh so to speak um
within the year before Charlie died. And
so I would just like to know more about
him because we do have a lot of fans in
Africa. Maybe people know more. He has
never spoken out about what he saw. He
kind of went away. I think he is still
working in some capacity with Turning
Point USA. But if you know anything
about Robert Golo um and his
involvement, we would love to hear from
you. More tips at candace Owens.com.
Every detail matters. Um now, we told
you guys that the mic explosion theory
in our view has infinitely more
evidence. It is it it offers infinitely
more sensible explanations for all the
odd things that took place that day. We
put together that list for you from them
not bringing the bomb dogs over to that
area quickly paving over the crime
scene, the shattered what looks like ABS
glass that's in the back of the or
plastic that's in the back of the car.
We also forgot to include something else
that we can now add to our growing list
of things that suddenly make sense when
we consider that it was a a shaped
charge with a patent explosive uh packed
into it. Right? Shaped charge. I I I
think the best way to think of it if you
can't comprehend it is almost like a
firework. Like you can direct it up and
it explodes, but you can't like
perfectly direct it and say hit right
here. Anyway, one of the other bizarre
things that took place is that the
people who immediately testified after
Charlie uh got hit said that they saw
Charlie get shot in the chest.
It was one of the things that we
actually covered almost immediately
after the shooting on this show was that
many of the people who spoke to the news
were all bizarrely somehow politically
connected. So we started profiling these
people and we found out this person uh
Tiffany Barker I think was one of the
names actually. She was working on Phil
Lyman's campaign. Phil Lyman was out
there testifying. Everything just felt
weird and organized. And so we covered
it and we forgot that many people were
saying that Charlie got hit in the
chest. It was almost like they didn't
look. It was very obvious where he got
hit. Anybody who looked at him. So why
why did they suddenly run to cameras and
say that they saw Charlie get hit in the
chest, right? Never never an answer for
that. I want you guys to take a listen
to these people who tried to
convincingly sell that he got hit in the
chest.
I heard a loud bang, which I figured a
shot would be a little bit louder, but
uh I just saw it hit him in the chest
and then all of a sudden just tons of
blood gushing right out where his heart
is and then he like fell over and
slumped down and everybody got down and
was screaming and then we all ran.
>> It was a direct shot to the heart. It
looked like right where his heart is, it
started going red. He fell back and went
to his side. Then I looked down at the
crowd and it looked like the crowd, they
all went to their knees really fast.
When I heard the first gunshot go off,
all of a sudden I just saw an eruption
of blood, you know, come out of
Charlie's chest and then kind of his
whole body recoil and go limp and and uh
and basically everybody just screamed
and fell to the floor.
>> Ladies and gentlemen, they are not
guessing. They are providing a
description that never happened. It
never happened. There was never a
pooling of blood near Charlie's heart.
Never happened. It was very obvious if
you were anywhere near where Charlie got
hit. And actually, it came out sideways.
The blood came out sideways. And I hate
to be graphic and describe that, but
it's important to remember that. And we
all saw the video, okay? And I told you
his shirt was clean.
And yet they described that as if it was
pre-planned for them to go out there.
I'm going to investigate these people
who came out here and said this right
near his heart. I told you my theory is
that the shape charge was intended to
hit his chest, but something went wrong
because a shape charge, like I said, can
be directed, but it is not an exact
science. I do not think they ever
intended for the shot to be public. I
don't think they ever intended for it to
hit his neck. I think his mic, the
second redundant mic, was rigged and it
was meant to hit his chest. He was
wearing a white shirt. Those
descriptions were meant to make sense
because they are the instant ones that
came out. They're speaking to NBC News.
A pooling of blood around his heart. You
never saw that, sir. How did you get on
NBC News? I'm going to find out. I'm
going to find out who these people are.
Because that is way too specific. They
are providing false witness
intentionally. And then I think they had
to pivot because actually the shaped
charge accidentally as opposed to
hitting his chest and causing that 306
diameter as would happen with a patent
and explosives as as we've demonstrated
to you in the past it accidentally
because of how Charlie was crouched
went up and hit his neck
and that ruined everything. That ruined
everything. It was problematic. It's the
reason why Teraldan had to scramble to
get the cameras down because they were
never supposed to see it. They they
could have said reasonably that a 30 six
got eaten by Charlie much more
reasonably obviously than saying that
the chicken bones in his neck stopped it
because he ate vegetables.
They panicked. That was what then that's
why Terlers on the phone with me. Again,
this is my theory and I am now very much
sticking to it. Okay, they panicked.
It's the reason Erica had to step out
once. That's why she would have got
gotten on the phone with Terrell so
quickly because I was going, "Why is
Terl saying, "Well, I didn't want Erica
to relive. That's why I did it." He
didn't have an answer. He was nervous.
It was crazy. And but he acknowledged
it. He spoke to Erica immediately. Why
did you speak to Erica immediately?
Why would you bother a quote unquote
grieving widow with the nonsense of a
camera behind his head that shows
nothing? Why did you jump specifically
to grab that camera's SD card and then
lie and say Andrew Kovette, people were
stealing stuff? Uh, buddy, we have eyes.
We saw you take specifically the SD card
and you left the camera. Which is more
expensive?
They panicked. I believe this. They
panicked big time because
the plan did not go as expected. In my
opinion, I have not seen any convincing
evidence to the contrary. And now that I
comprehend how a shape charge works and
I am now receiving emails from people
telling me that at Fort Wuka they could
have put together this rigged mic. I'm
trying to comprehend what they said.
They said they have a department that
works in signals and I am communicating
with people who know more about that.
But if I find out they assemble things
like this at Fort Wuga, things are going
to get a lot more interesting.
Anyway, back to the grieving widow. Now,
her story
has adapted a lot. She lies. Erica lies.
Erica is a liar. She lied to my face. I
get to write to say that. She lied to
me. She lied to you. She lied to
everybody when she said Andrew went
rogue. Good on you, Andrew. What a
gentleman to take that heat. Having
people calling you stupid and just
pretending you went rogue when in
reality you were colluding with Erica to
present this Superman Super Man of Steel
lie because Charlie ate veggies. Some
credit little bit little bit due to you.
But because I think of our public
pressure following the release of the
doctorred footage of Charlie Kirk
appointing her to the position of CEO,
her story that she sat down, planned and
told Megan Kelly, um you could see as we
showed you in that absurd Daily Mail
article, that the story was beginning to
shift, right? Suddenly it was the
footage never really mattered. Everyone
knew that was Charlie's plan for her to
assume the position even though he never
put it in his will. We all knew that
that was the master plan. Well, Erica's
no longer speaking about the Aspen
event. I think they'd like very much to
move on from the Aspen event because
liars lie all the time. And she's now
talking about the plan. There was always
this plan that we nobody was privy to.
If you were listening to Charlie's lips
and the words coming out of them, it was
very clear that he women should not
become the CEO of any company under any
situations even if their husbands are
alive. But apparently there was
privately a discussion where he said, "I
but if I get killed, I want you to do
it."
And she recently went to Illinois to lie
through her teeth. I'm going to prove to
you she lied through her teeth. She was
like some educator summit. And here is
what she had to say. the the newer story
now about her stepping into the 80hour a
week position formerly occupied by her
husband of the CEO and chairman as a CEO
and chairman of a quarter billion dollar
organization. She's going to ramble a
bit as people tend to do when they're
spinning tails. She's also going to give
an evil look for no reason. Take a
listen.
I am so grateful that Charlie had me
involved in literally as much as
possible with Turning Point USA, TP USA
Faith, um other programs within the
Turning Point USA umbrella. So much so
to that to the point when everything
happened,
I didn't I there was a 0% learning curve
here. So I didn't walk into the to the
office for the first time being like,
"Wow, this is what is this place?
There's six buildings. But before all of
this, I used to take the kids to the
office pretty much daily.
Sometimes since cuz like Gigi would have
dance class and stuff like that every
other day, whatever. But I would bring
them in because I wanted them to see
daddy with doing his radio show. I
wanted them to be able to see running
around the offices having fun and making
friends with some of the employees
because they would give them gifts. Like
it was a family and it still is a family
and that's the way that the organization
has always operated. And so when it came
to the moments after everything
happened, I didn't look at the room and
say, "Puts, who are you?" I I didn't I
knew all of them by name. I know a vast
majority of our staff by name. I know
their families. I know their
backgrounds. I know their what programs
they're working on.
>> And we actually cut out the part that I
wanted to also show of her saying that
her and Charlie had these conversations.
I don't know if you can pull it. I'd
like I'd like the the further uh the
longer clip of her talking about how her
and Charlie worked together and we they
had the private conversations where she
does that like evil look to the side. So
try to find that um while while I'm
speaking about even what she's saying
because this this part is important too.
So two things I'd like to say is the
first thing is that obviously she she's
lying through her teeth just from a
common sense perspective. She's lying
through her teeth because and and we
didn't show you this part but we will.
She's going to talk about how her and
Charlie always spoke about it. She talks
about the plan. He says, "There's no
daylight between us." Okay. And like I
said, we'll show you this clip.
You had private discussions. There was
no daylight between you. You He was
telling you everything that was
happening every single day and you knew
how every department was operating as an
quote unquote emergency plan. She's
lying. Okay. I said, "She's lying so
badly. It should frustrate you that
she's even attempting it because it's
almost an an historically asinine lie."
I I actually turned to my producer and I
said she has to actually be the first
woman in the entire world in the history
of the world since Sumerian civilization
that has taken her husband's taken over
her husband's corporate position as CEO
and chairman after he died. I said I
would actually just bet that off the top
because that's common sense. This
doesn't happen ever. Like literally
ever. So we ask CH GPT let's where are
the women that do this? This is so
normal and we're all crazy for realizing
that this is not normal at all. And here
is what chat GPT came up with. Okay.
First, they give us Ellen Gordon. Okay.
Oh, okay. Say great. She took over
Tootsie Roll Industries after her
husband Melvin Gordon died it. But
actually, no, not mentioned is the fact
that it was her family's company. They
had a controlling interest in the
company and then her husband was brought
in. She was already working there for
years while he was alive. first as the
vice president of product development.
Then she went on to become the senior
vice president president. Then finally
she became the president and the chief
operating officer of the company again
that her family owned the controlling
interest in and a position that she
maintained until she died. So she just
took she just wore one more hat
effectively after he died and it was her
family's company. The second example
they gave us was Katherine Meyer Graham.
I said okay maybe there is one. Well
actually the second one they gave us is
Erica Kirk which is hilarious. Um the
third example they gave us, they just
threw in a contrast. So it's not an
example. It says actually GM did not
appoint a spouse after a CEO's death. Th
this is common in large comp and
corporations. By contrast, spouse
succession is more common in founder or
family controlled organizations. And
they gave us Katherine Graham. Okay,
Katherine Mayer Graham. Sure enough, she
did take over for her husband, Philip
Graham, as the publisher of the
Washington Post after he died. But
again, it doesn't count because actually
it was her family's company. Her father
had purchased the Washington Post out of
bankruptcy. He was the head of the
Federal Reserve. And um then he said,
"Hi, you're my daughter's husband. You
should run the company." And then when
he died, she took over her family's
company as the publisher. Eugene Meyer
was her father, like I said, who
purchased Washington Post um right out
of bankruptcy. So, no. And oh, and by
the way, I should say she had a
background herself in publishing and in
writing and went to school for writing
and worked at magazines. This we could
not and I kept looking. I mean
strenuously we could not find a single
example in human history where someone's
wife just assumed their co corporate
role as CEO and chairman of their
company following a death. Not even an
assassination, just a death generally
speaking. We challenge you to go out
there and find the woman who did this,
especially as a stay-at-home wife who
knows nothing about the company. Erica
is just pretending that she's involved.
Okay, Miriam Adlesen could have been the
closest example. She came up on a list
because she took over Sheldon um
Sheldon's casino gambling business it
said when he died in 2021 but that also
was not accurate because it was actually
them together that op had a controlling
interest. It's a publicly traded company
and she simply inherited his shares,
right? In his will, I should mention as
the proper beneficiary of his shares,
his wife who he was together with for
decades. And no, she's not the CEO. She
never was the CEO. And I don't think
Mary Mson wants to be the CEO. And I
should say that this is
um exclusively
now a human history feat that has been
accomplished by Erica Kirk alone, who
happens to be by far when you weigh her
against all of the women that I just
named, the dumbest and least
accomplished person out of all of them.
Okay? Erica can't get through a speech
that's pre-written without a blunder,
without saying something ridiculous.
Everything she says is managed. She has
no background in anything. No, she was
not at the office every day. She's a
liar. She lies about everything. I was
genuinely shocked to hear those words
come out of her mouth because I uh I
speak to everybody. I have people
inside, people who have been fired at
the company. And one of the things they
kept complaining about was that Erica
doesn't know anybody. She doesn't know
anything. She doesn't even know their
names. And that was that was becoming a
a sticking point for a lot of these
people. You remember even when Aubrey
got fired, she had said to Andrew
Kovette, "Nobody knows who she is. You
want my honest opinion about her? Nobody
People do talk about her because we
don't know who she is. Past and current
employees were positively astonished by
the lie that Erica is saying that she
already knew everybody. And you don't
have to take it from past employees or
future employees or current employees
because Erica herself admitted this. She
forgot. She's a bad memory. That's why
you shouldn't lie unless you have a
great memory. You shouldn't lie at all,
but if you're going to lie, you should
have a really good memory. She herself
admitted after the Super Bowl, she
jumped on the call to thank everybody
and to say that she was looking forward
to learning their names because now the
kids are at the office and the kids come
home with stories and the kids now know
the names of the employees. And she said
she was looking forward to spending time
and learning the names of all the
employees. Take a listen.
>> I'm going to be doing something kind of
like a lunch with your
style thing because it is on my heart so
badly. I would love to sit down with
each and every one of you individually.
I I want to know your name, your face,
like be able to pray for you guys and
and really just know you. And so since I
can't do individually just yet um
because that would be a long uh day and
time and month and year to do that. I'm
going to be um conjoining it through
departments so we can make them very
small and intimate. Maybe three people
at a time and have lunch with you guys
just to hear your heart and and hear
your stories about Charlie to be honest
with you. That would be amazing. Um and
your memories with him.
Erica just said she didn't know the
employees. It would take her months. She
literally says, "I want to know your
names. I want to know what you're
working on." She's on that stage saying
the exact opposite. She's a liar. She
lies all the time and we just have to
just take it. We just have to take it.
She just gaslights and they keep going.
And anyways, he's queued it up now to
the point that I was talking about
earlier where she even suggests that
this was like some conversation Charlie
and her were having privately and he
just could not memorialize this in a
will. He he was so brilliant, but this
one thing he never memorialized in a
will and you would think he would given
it went against everything he ever
stated publicly about women in the
workforce. But here it is.
>> And we just like anyone else. I mean, we
always we had a emergency plan
um which obviously we never thought
would have to be executed on, but um
it's one of those things where we
obviously have had the conversation of
god forbid if something happens to you
or myself, what's the plan? Um we were
not we were not foreign to death threats
or
I personally got rape threats. We have
kidnapping threats. Like we're not it's
not something that's foreign to us. So,
it was a conversation that needed to be
had. And of course, it's uncomfortable,
but life is life. Life is short. It's
good to know that you have a plan. So,
all along
>> she's lying. She just lied.
>> And I we confided in the team. It was
not a
>> It wasn't an unknown thing. God forbid
if something happened, this is the route
we're going to take. I am so grateful
that Charlie had me involved in
literally as much as possible with
Turning Point USA, TP USA Faith, um
other programs within the Turning Point
USA umbrella. So much so to that to the
point when everything happened.
>> Okay, now we can come out of it.
>> I didn't I it it it's again she never
even thinks through common sense. Okay.
So, for everyone who is married out
there, okay, what she's saying about if
something ever happens to to us or one
of us, that's a conversation people
have, that's actually the reason they
establish wills. It's a it's the very
reason they establish wills. In no
relationship ever, go play this game. Go
out. Does anybody say, "I want to make
sure you step into my role at work." nor
do people generally know every bit of
what their husband or wife is working on
at work. Okay, my husband and I run a
business together. I can't tell you what
his dayto-day looks like. If your
husband goes to work, I was just saying
to Scott, I'm like, could you imagine if
your wife was just like, "Oh, I I knew
exactly. I can just do the job. I can be
an executive producer. He told me
everything. I knew the ins and the
outs." That's actually not normal.
That's not normal. And she's lying. She
was not at that office every day. She
did not know their names. And she
admitted herself in the audio that I
just played to you that she did not know
their names. And she needed to spend
time getting to know everybody's faces,
their names, and what they were working
on. So why does she lie so easily?
Again, this is her new story now. Forget
Aspen. They want everybody to forget
Aspen and the doctorred footage. They
want to move on from that. And now it's
well, the whole team knew this plan.
This was the plan. We just didn't put
Charlie didn't put it on paper. But it
was the plan for me to become the first
woman in human history. forget breaking
the glass shattering the glass ceiling
ever in the history of the world to take
over her husband's role as CEO and
chairman having had nothing to do with
the company except for helping out with
faith TP USA faith bringing on the
crappy pastors who lie about everything
that's Erica's accomplishment the
relationships of people like Victor Marx
and Rob McCoy even in her little minute
contribution
she failed she failed else everything
that she brought forth to Turning Point
USA that she was attached to. And in
Charlie's final presentation, which runs
two and a half hours long, he doesn't
say Erica is involved in everything
because she's lying. He says one
sentence, Erica helps out with Faith.
That's it. Because that's all she did.
How does she do it? How does she do it?
Outside of being a psychopath, there's
no other way that she can do it. No
other woman has tried to pull this off
in human history. That's all I'm saying.
We'll be right back after a quick break.
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All right, let's check in on some of
Erica's pastors. Her contribution to
Turning Point USA. You guys are in luck
actually because today we have another
installment of our smash series. Whose
pastor is this? Where we show you clips
of a Sunday sermon and try to figure out
who in America is actually spending
their Sunday listening to this
individual on stage preach at them. And
today's is extra special because it's
Rob McCoy, Pastor Rob McCoy, Mikey
McCoy's daddy.
He brought down the house this Sunday.
Maybe it was past Sunday, I don't know.
At Encounter Church in Vegas, you know,
holy city of Vegas. And I want to uh
thank the ex user Ali Top Files for
putting this on my radar. That's how I
saw it. Anyway, you imagine you get to
church, you're you're fired up, you're
ready to hear the good word. Pastor
McCoy, take it away.
>> Candace doesn't have any receipts and
it's a carnal Christian soap opera and
you're suckered into it. She's making
$800,000 a week and you're attacking a
widow.
>> Wow.
on innuendo supposition.
>> Wow.
>> Vain speculation
and it's shameful
>> when you should be caring for a widow.
>> Yes.
>> It's just amaz
>> she's going to go bankrupt. This next
one with
>> Charlie's chief of of security, Brian.
This this she's done. But here's the
thing. We ended the Salem witch trials
in 1692 in America.
>> And it was a minister who ended them.
His name was Increased Mather. And they
had murdered 19 people. And you know why
they did it? They had spectral evidence.
You know what spectral evidence is? I
had a dream.
>> Charlie spoke to me.
>> Sound familiar? Hello? Some of you don't
want to nod because you've been watching
that garbage.
I had a dream. Spectral evidence was
outlawed because the scripture said two
or three witnesses.
two or three witnesses
>> not him coming at his congregants. Some
of you don't want to nod because you've
been watching this garbage. No, they
don't want to nod because this is the
last time they're going to show up to
this church. How? Please walk me through
it. How does someone go on Sunday and
hear a pastor just speaking about
Candace Owens? The lie that he is
telling there. $800,000
a week on my show. You can't just be out
there saying stuff like that. Even Even
Ex had to clock him out of the lie.
Like, no. He just wildly exaggerated
that. It's kind of like his Mikey had
blood all over him because they they
just lie. It's just crazy. $800,000 a
week. I told my team if I was make we
were making 800K a week, I'd buy them
all Bentleys. I don't even like
Bentleys. I think I think it's kind of
an ugly car. Maybe like Range Rovers. It
looks better, but Bentley like sounds
more expensive or whatever. So, I'd bet
I'd get them all Bentley's if that was
the case. He's just saying stuff. How do
people attend these churches and think
that they are that they have anything to
do with God? It's amazing to me. He's
talking about my lawsuits. Who got up
that morning and was like, "Let me let
me get church. I want to feel I want to
I want to I want to go into the day with
go into the week with the energy. I want
to hear uh the New Testament." I don't
know who walks into that church and
leaves feeling spiritually renewed. Who?
Send me an email. I need to know who the
congregants are who sat there and
listened to him riff about Brian Harpole
suing Candace Owens and Less feeling
anything other than like
I got to go. I got to find a new church.
Maybe I'm going to become Catholic.
Yeah, I love this by the way. I wish him
every stage. I wish him to lie all
across America. I want him to go on
tour. I love Eric's met very many
pastors. I love Victor Marx, who says
he's no longer a pastor, but he was kind
of a pastor for a little bit, but he's
still doing the prayers on Erica and
Charlie. I love this guy, Rob McCoy, who
just can't tell the truth when he hits
the stage and is hoping for people to be
bankrupted and is talking about the
Salem witch trials. I love it all. I
love it all. Um because people wake up
to the mega church and these minor
pastors grifting Judeo-Christianity.
Um you wake up to what it's actually
about, which is just protecting the
state of Israel and attacking anybody
who calls them out for their various
genocides around the world. Anyway,
speaking of which, I'm shocked he didn't
mention Tucker Carlson in his sermon
with it's usually a package deal. both
Tucker Carlson and Cameron Owens,
especially because Tucker has been
trending all weekend for saying the
quiet part out loud regarding Charlie
Kirk's death. He was on the can't be
censored podcast and here's what he had
to say.
>> Well, you're never going to hear me
whine about threats ever um to me
because I got on this voluntarily. I
know what the I mean, I got fired after
15 years. The highest rated show in
American cable television and I got
fired for my opinion. So, I and I'm not
whining at all. I'm so grateful that I
got fired. I'm just saying you It's not
like I didn't know what the price is. I
do know what the price is. Charlie Kirk
was murdered.
>> Yeah.
>> Um and he was not murdered for his
opinions on transgenderism.
Obviously, he was I believe and most
people who knew him well, as I did, and
was friends with him as I was believe he
was most likely murdered for his
evolving views on Israel. So, I I get
it. I a lot's at stake. The world is at
stake. But from my perspective, I have a
duty to say what I think is true. I'm
often wrong and I always say that
because it it's a fact. I have been
wrong a lot and I may be wrong now, but
I am sincere. I'm saying what I believe
is true. And I'm going to continue doing
that no matter what.
It's
>> how everyone in the entire world feels.
They're asking us to look at zero
plausible evidence that points to the
fact that Charlie was stressed the night
before over transgenderism. This isn't
like, you know, Matt Walsh in What is a
woman crime. Then you'd go, "Okay, maybe
I could see a trans person." You Charlie
Kirk, Charlie Kirk murdered for his
views on transgenderism when the night
before he tweeted that he was left no
option but to abandon the pro-Israel
cause because of how severely they were
bullying him, threatening him using
finances. night before he's talking to
rabbis,
uh, you know, Israeli rabbis, Josh
Hammer, all of them saying that they
were just helping him tune his debate,
fine-tune his debate skills because
Charlie wasn't, you know, doing that for
a living and smarter than every single
one of these people. No, no, they needed
they needed he needed advice before. No,
you guys were all on the text chain
where he said this. Your conversation
clearly was related to the text that he
dropped where he said, "You've left me
no choice but to abandon the pro-Israel
cause." That's common sense. And you
keep bragging about the fact we were the
last ones to talk to him. Yeah, that's
the problem. He then sends a message and
says, "They're going to kill me and
we're supposed to believe that after
hanging up with Josh Hammer and Rabbi
and and and the rabbi on a Zoom call,
having told them that he was done being
bullied because they fall into Zionist
fall into all of the stereotypes.
We're supposed to believe that that
night he texted security and said, "I'm
worried a trans person is going to
murder me." No, it defies common sense.
We reject it. Okay. It defies everything
that happened that day. Defies common
sense.
Everything you're telling us happened
that day defies common sense. Okay.
Charlie wasn't hit with a 30 odd six
bullet in the neck. He wasn't. I'm
sorry. Didn't happen. Did not happen.
And you know it didn't happen. And Erica
couldn't scramble fast enough. And Terl
couldn't scramble fast enough. and new
witnesses the next day at 4:00 a.m. in
the morning saying he got shot in the
neck couldn't scramble fast enough. In
my opinion,
in my opinion, allegedly nothing adds
up. Show us something solid. We don't
need influencers
who formerly worked for the Department
of War coming and making videos and and
telling us, "Well, don't believe your
own eyes." Nope. We're going to believe
our own eyes this time. We're going to
believe our own eyes this time if that's
cool.
And um that ain't a grieving widow.
Anyway, Blakey Nef responded. I want you
know why it's important that he
responded to the Tucker thing because he
used to work for Tucker Carlson. And I
want to say Tucker, if you're watching,
I told you so. Tucker was so nice about
Blake Nef. So nice. So nice about Erica,
so nice about Blake Nef said, "I know I
know these people, blah blah blah." Of
course, Blakey Nef, you you could see
how quickly he would have stabbed
Charlie in the back as he just stabbed
Tucker right into the back. And he
tweeted this. Actually, those of us who
knew Charlie best, a group that doesn't
include Tucker, do think that Tyler
Robinson did it and was motivated by
transgender radicalism. Tucker is lying.
No, Blake Nef, you're lying. And some
audio is going to show that the majority
of people at Turning Point USA don't
believe Tyler Robinson did it or acted
alone. We'll have that later this week.
I know some other uh podcasters are
working on that, namely Baron Coleman.
But you're lying. And the fact that you
do it to cover up and you stab Tucker in
the back or I guess in the front in this
circumstance lets us know what you would
do to Charlie Kirk. You weren't one of
his best friends. You're like an
annoying person that somehow got onto
his podcast and nobody really knows how.
Actually, I'd like to know how. Oh, I
know. I was helping him with his his
debate points. Charlie, man, after I
left, he must have gotten really bad at
debating.
Everyone was helping him. rabbis,
pastors, priests, his wife, everybody
was helping Charlie Kirkland learn how
to debate in his like 10th year of
debating on college campuses. Those kids
must have really gotten wise or
something. He was terrified. Excited the
night before. Thought he was going to
die, but also very excited the night
before. Woke Gigi up or something.
There's a lot going on. A lot of
emotions. Terrified. Texting a security,
they're going to kill me after a day of
arguing with Zionists. But he was
talking about trans people. and then he
was really excited the next day. None of
it makes sense. Anyway, countering Blake
obviously is the fact that the exact
opposite was said while Blake was there
on Charlie's show after he died by
Andrew Kovvat. Take a listen.
>> Really want people to understand,
Tucker, you and Charlie had such a
unique and special bond and
relationship. It was it was a deep
friendship and you both
>> uh had each other's back in an
incredible back.
>> You had his back, too. I know those
stories as well.
>> Yeah. And I promised I wouldn't get into
any of that. But I will say, and I'm not
going to, but I will say cuz I want this
to be about Jesus and his love for Jesus
>> and what he did to spread the word of
Jesus throughout the world. But I will
just say this that whenever I would come
and do a gig for you guys, which was a
lot cuz I really enjoyed it and he was
so kind to invite me and defend my being
there. But I would always, he's the only
person I did this with. I would always
say, "Hey, you know, let's like meet in
my hotel room or have a meal." Like I I
loved talking to him and it wasn't just
to catch up on everything that's going
on in the political world. He would
always bring it back to God every single
time. And it was so there's no one
around like so he didn't need to be
like, "Oh yeah, I really love God." Like
just us talking about that
>> and you would come to Phoenix and you
would reach out to I it was like I I
have so many memories of Charlie being
like, "I can't. I got to do dinner." Who
you doing dinner with? Oh, Tucker's in
town. I got to meet up with him.
>> Always, always.
>> Blake Nef is a liar. He is a coward. He
is a backstabber. And he is made of the
stuff that you would expect from a
person who would betray Charlie. You
proved yourself to be a deceitful
traitor by pretending he was not close
to Tucker Carlson. Everybody knows, but
he was close to Tucker Carlson. He
confided with him just like everybody
knows that me and Charlie were friends.
You guys are trying to rewrite his
history while we watch live. And we're
not going to stand it. You're trying to
rewrite history and make it so that his
close friends were Josh Hammer, Laura
Loomer, Jigsaw. Okay. Sawface you're now
allowing to kind of edge into and
pretend that he was her adviser. He came
to me for advice about the woke right.
Oh. Oh, he was upset about Tucker
Carlson and confided into Laura Loomer.
Are you guys out of your minds? How How
do you live with yourselves? How do you
do it? I want to understand it. How do
you guys wake up in the morning and look
yourselves in the mirror knowing that
you didn't just betray Charlie, you
betray him every single day, every
single moment and the entire world knows
it. Every time Blake Nef opens his
mouth, a conspiracy theorist gets his
wings. That's a fact. An absolute fact.
These people are despicable. No, Charlie
and Canon speak since 2019. you liars.
Sending people out to write hippie is
trying to just I I can't even imagine
having passed away and watching my worst
enemies be given my legacy by my own
wife. By my own wife,
yielding the stage to Ben Shapiro. Like,
we were going to allow that. We're not
going to allow it. I said from the very
beginning of this entire thing, I want
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All right, you guys. Uh top comment from
the last episode is uh by just focusing
on who killed Charlie Kirk, you have
discovered there's so much more going on
in our corrupt government. You know, my
sense is just it's global trafficking. I
think Charlie was invited to join the
global trafficking ring. That's my
opinion based on everything that I have
seen. Um that's what it looks like to
me. And through the mechanism of
churches and megaurches, a lot of that
global trafficking has been covered.
Think while you still can. Chewing the
void writes, "Erica could clear up a lot
of the speculation in a single
afternoon. She has now spent nine months
proving that she won't. Erica cannot do
that because she is not intelligent
enough to hold to to be hosted for um an
interview. That's not scripted. She
can't sit there and answer questions. If
you think that that girl is capable of
what Charlie was capable of wa watching
his last presentation just how quickly
his mind worked. If you think that that
girl can speak to you or answer basic
questions about a balance sheet, you're
an idiot. She has no idea what's going
on. She is what she's always been a
pageant girl. Tell her lines that she
has to remember and she can utter them
back to you. And usually it's not with
perfection. Usually she slips up even
with the lines that have been been
pre-written for her. And I know for a
fact that in past interviews, scripts
were handed to her before she went out
at the very beginning of this thing.
It's a fact. Not a suspicion, a fact.
Mikey McCoy, Stacy Sheridan, they have
been the directors helping Erica
memorize her lines. That is not a real
person. That is not a a real grieving
widow. And I simply don't care. Anyway,
I want to move on also to this. I want
to show you guys quickly this email that
we got. Another email regarding Pent.
We're we're taking a look at what
happens at the Fort Wuka base. We need
to do a little bit of research, but this
person wrote, "Hey, Candace, I'm not
sure if you'll ever even read this
because I know you're busy, but I have
some information and opinions to give
you on the mic. Um, my boyfriend and I
both work with explosive we explosives.
We both are military EOD explosive
ordinance disposal techs, which is more
commonly known as military bomb techs.
Anyway, as far as the PEN, we pronounce
it pin. Thank you for telling me. It's
the main component in military and
commercial blasting caps. Each blasting
cap has less than one gram of pettin and
deals major damage. We have seen so many
videos and know people who are missing
fingers or went blind from mishandling
these blasting caps. Anyway, I'm not
sure about the Tennessee explosion that
you were talking about, but I know that
it's very easy to either make your own
explosives or steal from the military,
police, or commercial areas. As far as
the shaped charge, it is very common in
IEDs and copper is the most common. But
to give you a sense of how easy it is,
you can use a wine bottle to make one as
well. I know this won't help progress
your theories, but me along with my tech
friends all believe it was the mic. We
could definitely be biased since we deal
with IEDs, but I just thought that you
should know, but a lot of people who
deal with rifles, explosive, and
explosives and improvised explosives do
not believe it was from a gun. Please
reach out if you have any questions.
Thank you. We, like I said, we've been
receiving tons of these emails from
people in the military. Um, and the
reason why I show you these things are
people that deal with explosives is
because, um, you're going to have to
contend with a bunch of morons on the
internet telling you that's not
possible. They have no idea what they're
talking about. They didn't even watch
the episode. They just get their
marching ep their marching orders and
try to make it seem as though it's not
possible for a shaped charge to come out
of something that is the size of the
beeper. It's actually what the Israelis
specialize in, as I've demonstrated to
you guys. And this to me is the theory
that has the most legs. And we will be
continuing to spend time on it because
every single piece of the puzzle comes
together when you imagine that he was
actually taken out by his um redundant
Mike and the characters that were around
him sort of boiling the frog and getting
him accustomed to having that redundancy
which was not a feature when I toured
with Charlie for five years. That's all
I'll say. Anyway, um couple more
comments to say. I think we are over
time. Uh uh uh. Scrolling down. Who do
we have? We have US flag pole guy
writes, "Brian Harpole brought Charlie's
bag to Shawn like a cat brings a mouse
to its owner. Why was it not in
evidence?" Great question, which I
asked. Why was not in evidence, but
nothing went to evidence. The microphone
didn't go into evidence. It went, you
know, for a photo uh op with Erica in
front of donors as she raised $40
million at Mara Lago. Everything was
just sort of conveniently given back at
Turning Point USA. Charlie's Kirk's
Charlie Kirk's phone should have been
kept into evidence. It wasn't. It was
given back as we know very quickly
returned to Erica. And that is why they
needed to brand her as a screaming widow
so people wouldn't ask these sorts of
common sense questions. Why is evidence
being handed back to his wife, right?
Doesn't make any sense. Uh Janap Jenna
writes, "Happy Father's Day to George. I
love the stories that you share and the
pics of the kids. You two are great
parents. We also just really love being
parents. If you can't tell, baby number
five, uh, our kids are just the best. I
I know I'm biased, but somebody actually
has to have the best kids, and I think
it's us. They're just awesome. They're
fun. They're social. They're very funny.
Uh, they have such a great sense of
humor, and they just they just make it
all worth it. Jess Happy writes, "I knew
it. Congratulations, Queen Candace.
Christ is king indeed. What a blessing."
Yes, it is a blessing. And you guys did
know. I don't know how you knew before I
knew, but I'm I must have a really bad
attitude when I'm pregnant with these
boys. It's now a frat house, by the way.
I'm raising a little army 300 style, so
I wouldn't cabbage Phillips. I'll see
you when I see you on the playground.
Less is Mo Richie writes, "Your show
titles and your sense of humor are
unrivaled. I love how you turn the
tables on the trolls. My collegeage son
sent posts and asked, "Mom, have you
seen this? Could it be true?" I said, "I
don't underestimate Candace. Go Max.
Christ is king." Yes. I you know this
world is crazy and a part of it is
psychological and they're always playing
these games and wanting you to be
fearful to live your life. Life is
short. We've learned that lesson from
Charlie and so live it fully. Live your
life fully. Say what you want. Do things
that actually matter. Tell the truth as
Tucker Carlson stipulates. Um he is in a
position where he is required to tell
the truth and not to give into this
nonsense. Um there's a lot of money to
spend nonsense. I'll tell you what, I
might make $800,000 a week if I flip
sides. I hear it's going around. I show
faith by works. I bet I could get
$800,000 per week if I lied to you and
told you not to think and spun crap to
you like, "No, it's a modernday miracle.
30 odd six just gets stopped and bounces
down and ricochets and then explodes
into somebody's stomach and he just ate
it. What a blessing." Like I could do
that, but I can't. I actually can't do
that. Least of all when I'm pregnant
with a boy. I can't do it. Lindsay
Column writes, "Just remember there is
no honor among thieves. I am so excited
to see who folds and how quickly they
all turn each other and play victim. I
wonder who it will be first. I love your
show, your mission, your passion, and
your commitment. Thank you." If I had to
guess, it would be Blake Nef because
he's a weasel,
but I'm just guessing. Natalie Chenito
writes, "Congrats for baby number five."
Thank you so much. Ali writes in Erica's
Father Day Father's Day post, she wrote,
"You would always mention more fog, more
sparklers." And she used a clip of
Charlie at a TPUSA event with sparklers.
She literally used a Father's Day post
for PR purposes because she gets heat
for the sparklers. I know. I know. I I
actually mentioned it to my team. If you
go back, she pretends she doesn't watch
everything, but she watches every minute
of everything and every criticism that's
being lodged by at her because she
always tries to wrap it into every
public appearance to respond to it. Like
even in this recent one, she was like
the kids were dropped off at their
grandma's house because people were
saying that she doesn't have the best
relationship with Charlie's um parents.
I I bet in this upcoming hearing that uh
what is it now? Is it this week the
Tyler Robinson hearing? Is it or is it
in July whenever it was bumped to that
she's going to be there? Because people
have been saying it's weird that she's
never been uh to any of the hearings at
all. If your husband was assassinated,
wouldn't you want to attend? I bet you
she will go to the next one because
she's a psychopath. So, she edits her
behavior according to what the public
says. And she thinks that she can then
sell that as if we're not on to her game
while simultaneously claiming that she
doesn't listen to the comments and the
naysayers don't get to her until she
comes in like Janet Jackson, calling out
Drewski for a joke while forgiving Tyler
Robinson and throwing my name in it for
no reason. Well, call my name, I might
just be here. I'm here, Erica, and I'm
I'm just done. I'm done with Turning
Point USA. The lies are just getting to
a point like we're we're not rewriting
history. where t where where Laura
Loomer I is a friend of his and Tucker
Carlson was not. That's done. It's over.
You're welcome. Anyway, you guys, if
you'd like to support the show, um you
can uh head to our website and buy new
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need we need Blakey Nef merch. I don't
know what I said that people want the
merch about because he just gets me so
fired up. I I don't know what I
[clears throat] say half the time. I
It's like a surge of like boy energy
that's I don't know. I don't understand
it physiologically speaking why this
happens to me. Why I want to do hood rat
stuff with my friends when I'm pregnant.
I can't I just be one of those people
that just cries at the drop of a hat and
just cries all the time. I want to be
one of those people. I was I was more
emotional when I was pregnant with my
daughter. I didn't want to fight people.
That's for sure. Uh I don't know, guys.
There are things we don't know and we
can never know. But if you'd like to
support the show, head to the website,
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Join the book club. Uh head to
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Club. And yeah, anyway, I have a lot
more to tell you guys. Another tidbit,
another person who has a memory about
Eric Kirk Kirk working for the models as
their realtor, but I'm going to tell you
that tomorrow. We will see you then.
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