TPUSA Betrays Erika Kirk as Candace Owens Speaks Out

[00:00] Well, I don't know what Turning Point

[00:01] USA and the Charlie Kirk show was

[00:03] thinking yesterday. Erica Kirk literally

[00:05] said after posting that she was meeting

[00:07] with Candace Owens that they had

[00:09] mutually agreed that there would be no

[00:11] public discussions, live streams, and

[00:13] tweets and those would be on hold until

[00:16] after the meeting took place. I covered

[00:18] yesterday that in fact Turning Point USA

[00:20] did not honor that and trotted Gary

[00:22] Melton from Paramount Tactical out there

[00:25] who, and I'm going to show you this,

[00:27] spent the first month after Charlie Kirk

[00:29] was killed pushing a false narrative.

[00:31] And now I guess he's changed his mind,

[00:34] but is vehemently attacking Candace

[00:36] Owens throughout social media. I guess

[00:38] that's the prerequisite for getting on

[00:40] the Turning Point USA Charlie Kirk show.

[00:43] Andrew Kovette and Blake Nef are getting

[00:45] a lot of heat about their decision to do

[00:47] this despite what Erica said. And you're

[00:50] going to want to see the response they

[00:51] came out with. It's bad. I mean, utterly

[00:54] ridiculous. Also, Candace Owens released

[00:57] a short video explaining how the meeting

[00:59] went that I'm going to show you, and she

[01:01] mentions something within it that I find

[01:04] uh interesting to say the least. And

[01:07] finally, there's a lot going on in the

[01:08] world right now, a lot that the FBI

[01:10] director should be focused on. a lot

[01:12] that we're waiting for answers for.

[01:15] Well, I'm going to show you what Cash

[01:16] Patel is up to now. And that is where

[01:19] we'll begin. Before we start, and as

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[01:40] So Candace Owens supposedly received an

[01:42] assassination threat from the French

[01:44] government. The majority of people are

[01:46] very concerned that Tyler Robinson did

[01:48] not act alone in the Charlie Kirk

[01:49] assassination case that he was

[01:51] influenced by a domestic or foreign

[01:53] operative through covert influence. We

[01:56] have no answers on the Epstein files and

[01:58] we were specifically promised that we

[02:00] would. The list goes on and on. Yet, the

[02:03] FBI director, Cash Patel, is taking the

[02:05] time to do celebrity gossip interviews

[02:08] with his girlfriend about their love

[02:10] story. Like, what in the actual hell is

[02:12] this?

[02:13] >> We are so excited to be joined by Cash

[02:15] and his beautiful girlfriend, Alexis.

[02:17] So, I just want to clarify. You're not

[02:18] Jewish.

[02:19] >> I'm not. [laughter]

[02:20] >> You are not from Israel.

[02:22] >> No. So, how did we get to Are you a MSAD

[02:25] agent?

[02:26] >> You know, that's a great question.

[02:27] Where's her ring? [laughter]

[02:29] Just to clarify, how often has he

[02:31] traveled to see you since January 20th?

[02:33] [music] Is there been one moment where

[02:35] you're like, you can't make this up.

[02:41] Okay. December 16th. Can't wait.

[02:45] What are we doing? Like, what are we

[02:47] doing? Cash Patel has already been

[02:50] scrutinized for using the FBI jet to

[02:52] travel to his girlfriend's shows on

[02:54] taxpayer dime. and his justification has

[02:56] been, "Well, my predecessors all did the

[02:59] same thing, using FBI resources and

[03:01] taxpayer dollars for personal use."

[03:04] Guess what, Cash? We don't approve of

[03:06] your predecessors use of taxpayer

[03:09] dollars either. None of your

[03:10] predecessors we think did a very good

[03:12] job. [laughter]

[03:14] This is government elite elitism. And I

[03:16] don't care who does it. And I'm sorry,

[03:18] this is your girlfriend. This isn't his

[03:20] wife. This isn't him flying back from

[03:22] somewhere important to get to his son's

[03:25] baseball game. Like, this is to go to

[03:28] his girlfriend's country music concert.

[03:31] I'm not against having a personal life.

[03:33] I'm really not. But just spare us from

[03:35] this People magazine garbage. We don't

[03:38] care. If you were going to take some

[03:40] time out to do a podcast on taxpayer

[03:43] dime, then go on Candace Owens and talk

[03:46] about something that we all care about,

[03:48] like getting answers about who killed

[03:50] Charlie Kirk and why. Now, Turning Point

[03:53] USA got caught betraying their CEO,

[03:56] Erica Kirk's wishes, by doing exactly

[03:59] what she said they were not going to do

[04:01] yesterday. And their response to this

[04:03] criticism is utterly ridiculous. We'll

[04:06] get to that in a minute after a short

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[05:15] we get to the turning point USA and

[05:16] Andrew Kovvette response to all of this,

[05:19] let's take a listen to the clip that

[05:20] Candace Owens put out about her meeting

[05:22] with Erica yesterday. Pay attention to

[05:24] her words here.

[05:26] >> 4 and a half hours later, I'm alive. I'm

[05:28] alive. I'm totally fine and I am sorry.

[05:31] I was going to do a show for you guys

[05:33] this evening, but I am truly exhausted.

[05:35] Very productive conversation. I asked

[05:37] every single question. I mean, from

[05:41] Egyptian Plains, the Turning Point USA

[05:43] faith, and I was very surprised by some

[05:45] of the answers that I got and I think

[05:47] they were also very surprised when I

[05:49] shared certain intel. Uh, this probably

[05:51] should have happened a very long time

[05:52] ago, but I wanted to let you guys know

[05:53] that I am alive and I will have the full

[05:56] rundown for you guys tomorrow of what

[05:58] what transpired and yeah, I I think it

[06:03] was definitely a very big step in the

[06:05] right direction. So, uh, I'll see you

[06:08] guys tomorrow.

[06:08] >> So, this was obviously a conversation

[06:10] that included more people than just

[06:12] Erica and Candace. As Candace refers to

[06:14] they in this clip, who is they? Looking

[06:18] forward to hearing that full rundown.

[06:19] What also stood out to me though was

[06:21] Candace was surprised by some things.

[06:23] They Erica presented and they were

[06:27] surprised by some of the things that

[06:28] Candace presented. And this is how the

[06:31] free speech mechanism works. This is how

[06:34] we get to the full truth which leads me

[06:37] to Turning Point USA. And I was very

[06:40] sorry to see they betrayed what Erica

[06:42] said in her post on X. And they betrayed

[06:45] Candace Owens, too. Because as this

[06:48] meeting between the two of them, Erica

[06:50] and Candace, took place, they were

[06:52] literally hosting their live stream and

[06:55] had multiple guests on to discuss all of

[06:57] the conspiracy theories. So, they did

[07:00] exactly what Erica said they were not

[07:03] going to do. But even more is the guest

[07:06] that they had on has grown into one of

[07:09] the most outspoken Candace Owens critics

[07:12] on social media. Look at these posts

[07:14] from Gary Melton from Paramount Tactical

[07:17] who has made it his job apparently to

[07:19] join the chorus of Candace Owens haters

[07:22] and diagnosers online. He shared this

[07:24] New York Post article calling Candace

[07:27] sadistic diagnosis and dangerous for

[07:30] monetizing baseless conspiracy theories

[07:33] and shared the quote from the article.

[07:35] Everything she is doing right now is

[07:37] because she wants to destroy Charlie's

[07:39] legacy and the organization he built

[07:41] because he threw her out of Turning

[07:43] Point USA. Candace Owens resigned from

[07:46] Turning Point USA in 2019 after making

[07:49] comments about Hitler, which have since

[07:52] become a viral exchange in Candace's

[07:54] favor. Gary also posted responding to

[07:58] Candace's post about the meeting, saying

[08:00] tensions were thawed. And he then jumps

[08:03] in to say that Candace was completely

[08:05] wrong then about Turning Point USA and

[08:08] this was all just quote slanderous

[08:10] horseshit. Okay, you get the point. And

[08:12] these are just two from the last 24

[08:14] hours. Here is my problem with this as

[08:16] it relates to Gary before I show you the

[08:19] Andrew Kvet and Turning Point USA,

[08:21] excuse me, response to all of this. And

[08:23] this speaks to the larger problem I have

[08:25] in general as it relates to Candace

[08:27] Owens. If Candace turns out not to be

[08:31] correct about a certain aspect of this

[08:33] investigation, this doesn't make it

[08:35] slanderous horseshit. Turning over

[08:37] stones that have nothing under them as

[08:40] it relates to this high-profile

[08:41] assassination case after we've been

[08:43] repeatedly lied to by government

[08:45] authorities, corporations, and elitists

[08:48] time and time again doesn't make you

[08:50] evil and require a medical diagnosis.

[08:54] No one did this to Gary himself when he

[08:57] ended up wrong early on in this

[08:59] investigation. Gary pushed for the first

[09:01] month of this investigation that the

[09:03] only way a 30 six could have been used

[09:06] was if Charlie was wearing body armor. I

[09:08] did a video clearly debunking this show

[09:11] showing Charlie's nipples, cross, and

[09:13] pectoral outline through his shirt. I

[09:16] listened to a few of Gary's live shows

[09:18] to learn more about the investigation.

[09:20] And I even questioned him about the 306

[09:23] narrative because he himself said that

[09:25] no exit wound and no body armor would

[09:28] have been a statistical anomaly if he

[09:30] was shot with the 306 from that rooftop.

[09:33] Watch this.

[09:35] If nobody armor still a 306 possible

[09:37] from roof possible. It is possible. I've

[09:42] never said it wasn't possible. I still

[09:45] think like if we don't have body armor

[09:48] >> like we need an explanation of some

[09:51] different rounds. Um

[09:55] I think it's extremely like even if it

[09:57] was a full let's say it's FMJ. All

[10:00] right. There is some statistical anomaly

[10:03] out there where we can say it's

[10:05] possible. But that's just what this

[10:08] comes down to is like statistically it

[10:10] doesn't make sense. Almost anything's

[10:12] possible. Just like Kyle said, there's

[10:14] weird things that do happen when it

[10:15] comes to ballistics. Uh there's there's

[10:17] variables that we can't see, can't take

[10:20] into account. Uh everything from, you

[10:22] know, a weird primer, a damaged primer

[10:25] can cause some different things.

[10:27] Propellants either damaged or

[10:28] something's going on with that. Uh you

[10:31] know, like we have we have precision

[10:33] rifle rounds. Uh this last course that

[10:36] we just ran, all right, we had a bunch

[10:37] of guys out there shooting. We had one

[10:39] client, this is factory ammunition, some

[10:42] of the best out there. I'll just tell

[10:43] you, it was Hornady ELDM. Uh, it was

[10:45] actually 115 grain, six millimeter. He

[10:48] had like 10 rounds that went out the gun

[10:50] and got like 50 feet out and literally

[10:52] just exploded. Like, we just saw poof.

[10:54] Like, where' the round go? And I'm back

[10:56] there spotting. I'm like, that round

[10:58] didn't go anywhere, man. Like, so

[10:59] there's weird things that happen.

[11:03] It's just what we're seeing is super

[11:05] atypical.

[11:06] >> Okay. So by Gary's own logic because now

[11:09] he would say that anybody pushing or

[11:11] anybody pushing back on the lone wolf

[11:14] narrative regarding Tyler Robinson and

[11:16] doubting that Charlie Kirk was shot with

[11:18] a 30 six rifle because there was no exit

[11:21] wound would be a conspiracy theorist

[11:23] pushing slanderous horseshit. Well, is

[11:27] that what he was doing? Does this make

[11:29] him an evil slanderous? And what what

[11:32] should we diagnose him with? sadism

[11:35] cluster A B C D A A minus like whatever

[11:39] the hell the free speech mechanism works

[11:42] and we root out conspiracies by turning

[11:45] over every stone. It is complete bad

[11:48] faith to arrogantly moral blackmail or

[11:51] attempt to censor another just because

[11:54] you think their idea is bad. Guess what?

[11:57] Pure free speech means that you are

[11:59] allowed to talk about good and bad

[12:02] ideas. It's exploratory. This is the

[12:05] whole point. In any case, Turning Point

[12:07] USA did not act in good faith because

[12:10] apparently the prerequisite for coming

[12:12] on to their live stream was you needed

[12:15] to have disavowed Candace Owens, which

[12:18] Gary clearly has done. They got a ton of

[12:21] push back for doing this, though. And

[12:23] here was Andrew Kovette's response.

[12:26] Someone posted, "Candace Owens, are you

[12:28] aware that Turning Point USA violated

[12:30] your agreement, the one that she had

[12:31] made with Erica, and had a whole live

[12:33] stream debunking your claims during the

[12:36] meeting?" And when asked by Jason

[12:39] Whitlock if this was true, Andrew Kvette

[12:41] responded with, "No,

[12:43] no, we have a daily radio show that is

[12:47] also on Real America's Voice. It wasn't

[12:50] the stream that we discussed. It wasn't

[12:52] even the time we discussed. We can't

[12:55] just not show up for work. The stream

[12:57] was going to be in addition to the daily

[13:00] radio program. Okay, [snorts] so Andrew

[13:03] Kovette, he is either utterly

[13:05] incompetent or arrogant and thinks we

[13:08] are literally the dumbest people on

[13:09] earth. This wasn't the live stream that

[13:11] we originally discussed. It was a

[13:14] different live stream, buddy. It's the

[13:17] topic that was off limits. Erica

[13:20] explicitly said all public discussions,

[13:23] live streams, tweets, she wrote in the

[13:26] plural form, the topic was to not be

[13:29] discussed in any live stream.

[13:33] [sighs]

[13:34] I'm Zach Costello.