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True Crime Rocket Science Examines Tyler Robinson Case and Online Radicalization of Young Men
Nick van der Leek from True Crime Rocket Science examines the Tyler Robinson case, exploring how the alleged UVU shooter was apprehended wearing the same clothes seen in surveillance footage days earlier. The analysis goes beyond the surface details to investigate the darker mechanics of online radicalization, particularly among vulnerable young men aged 18-34. Drawing parallels to ancient assassinations and modern toxic political discourse, van der Leek reveals how character assassination in political rhetoric can metastasize into actual violence. He addresses widespread conspiracy theories about doctored footage, explains the technical aspects of security camera systems, and uncovers a critical insight: radicalization doesn't happen through violent video games themselves, but through the communication channels and chat rooms surrounding gaming platforms where vulnerable individuals are gradually exposed to dehumanizing rhetoric and extremist ideologies.
The Arrest and Surveillance Evidence
According to the Washington County Sheriff's Office investigation, a family member of Tyler Robinson reached out to a family friend who then contacted authorities with information that Robinson had confessed to or implied his involvement in the incident. Investigators reviewed additional surveillance footage from Utah Valley University and identified Robinson arriving on campus in a gray Dodge Challenger at approximately 8:29 a.m. on September 10th. The footage showed him wearing a plain maroon t-shirt, light colored shorts, a black hat with a white logo, and light colored shoes.
When investigators encountered Robinson in Washington County on September 12th in the early morning hours, he was observed wearing clothing consistent with those surveillance images. Governor Cox's reference to the surveillance images pertains to the maroon shirt and shorts, not the black shirt and jeans that some news outlets mistakenly displayed during his statements. This detail mirrors cases like JonBenét Ramsey, where Patsy Ramsey was also seen the next morning by police wearing the same clothes she had worn the night before at the White's Christmas party.
Understanding Criminal Psychology
These are the quirks of criminal investigations, things that happen in a case that just don't seem to make sense from an outsider's perspective. The real question in true crime is never how or why something doesn't make sense to observers, but how or why it makes sense to the perpetrator. When examining criminal psychology, the goal isn't to justify, rationalize, or sympathize with a killer's motive, but simply to understand the process, the mechanism, and the psychological framework.
Investigators interviewed a family member of Robinson who stated that Robinson had become more political in recent years. This detail becomes central to understanding the mechanism of online radicalization, a phenomenon that extends far beyond this single case and affects society broadly.
The Mechanics of Online Radicalization
According to CNN, the nearly undetectable threat of snipers has security professionals sounding the alarm as age-old tactics of assassination become the tool of choice for modern killers, often fueled by ubiquitous streams of online hate. While sniper tactics have been used for centuries, security experts emphasize that the current toxic United States political climate, coupled with the threat of rapid online radicalization and easy access to guns, requires an especially urgent adjustment to address this emerging form of deadly violence.
The progression from character assassination in toxic political discourse to actual assassination represents a dangerous evolution. When character assassination is allowed to metastasize through social media channels, it morphs into actual violence. This reflects a regression in civilization, as algorithms tap into tribal instincts that once prevented civilizations from flourishing in ancient times.
Addressing Conspiracy Theories About Footage
Many people have become suspicious of the surveillance footage, questioning why there's no footage of the sniper taking a shot or how the camera appears to zoom while recording. These concerns reflect a broader issue of people anchoring themselves in fictional narratives rather than reality. The zoom function seen in the footage is simply a feature in most security camera systems, similar to zooming in on a photo on a phone after it's been taken.
The original wide-angle frame from the security camera includes the entire view area from the sniper's position on the far left to the point where he dropped down on the grass and left a shoe impression, to the area on the far right where he was walking along the road. The zoom effect is achieved either by using another camera to zoom in on the original footage displayed on screen, or by using the tools within the security system itself. The zoom is necessary because the figure is barely visible in the original widescreen format.
As for why there's no footage of the sniper taking the shot, the answer is straightforward: the weapon was on the far side, directed away from the camera. From that angle, you might be able to see the soles of his shoes or slight movement, but you wouldn't see the shot being fired.
The Role of Gaming Platforms
The global video game market has an estimated value of almost $300 billion in 2024, with more than three billion gamers worldwide. The largest percentage consists of young adults aged 18 to 34, many of whom are vulnerable young men. This age group, particularly men aged 18 to 22, is vulnerable because they are still discovering their identity, testing beliefs and ideas about themselves and how the world works. This is a period when men can either gain or lose agency.
Extremist activists have long recognized this demographic as ripe for radicalization. While there has been perennial debate about the link between playing violent video games and real-world violence, research reveals a critical insight: most radicalization takes place not through playing video games themselves, but through gaming platform communication channels.
In 2020, researchers studied more than 9 million posts from the gaming platform Steam and found evidence of radicalization occurring through communication channels such as team voice channels. Players establish connections with one another and can use these connections for political recruitment. The radicalization of vulnerable users is not instantaneous. Once extremists have connected with potential targets, they invite them into other platforms such as Discord or private chat rooms. These spaces allow for meme and image sharing as well as ongoing voice and video conversations.
The Recruitment Process
Skillful recruiters play to a target's specific grievances, which may be personal, psychosexual (such as being unable to gain love or approval), or related to divisive issues such as employment, housing, or gender roles. The recruit is initiated into a fast-changing set of cynical in-jokes and in-group terms. These may include mocking self-designations such as the Pepe the Frog meme used by the far-right to ironically embrace their political incorrectness. They also use derogatory terms for enemies such as woke, social justice warriors, soy boys, fascists, and cultural Marxists.
Gradually, the new recruit becomes accustomed to the casual denigration and dehumanization of perceived enemies. Social isolation and mental illness are among the factors online extremists exploit when luring vulnerable individuals. This radicalization can occur on any platform, including YouTube, where content creators figure out who their audience is, what they want to hear, and then create content that meets those expectations.
The Robinson Family Dinner Conversation
A family member referenced an incident prior to September 10th when Robinson came to dinner. In conversation with another family member, Robinson mentioned that Charlie Kirk was coming to UVU. They talked about why they didn't like him and the viewpoints he held. The family member stated that Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate. Robinson also referenced hate in his text exchange, demonstrating how repeated themes in conversation can manifest in action. Thought begets action, and what people say repeatedly, particularly what they say every day, matters.
The Path Forward
In an increasingly online world, the best way to keep young people safe from online radicalization is to maintain constructive offline conversations. Meeting people face to face in the real world, having coffee, walking dogs, exercising, traveling, cooking, and engaging in activities away from the keyboard all help anchor individuals in reality rather than allowing them to escape into dream worlds or fictional narratives.
The case reflects the extent to which society is anchored in reality versus anchored in fictions and ideas derived from reality but not reality itself. All gaming and online immersion represents an effort to escape a certain kind of reality, particularly for those who feel they don't have much agency in the real world or who find the real world hasn't been kind to them. Understanding this mechanism is essential for preventing future tragedies.
Video Transcript
A family member of Tyler Robinson
reached out to a family friend who
contacted the Washington County
Sheriff's Office with information that
Robinson had confessed to them or
implied that he had committed the
incident. Investigators reviewed
additional foot video footage from UVU
surveillance and identified Robinson
arriving on UVU campus in a grade Dodge
Challenger at approximately 8:29 a.m. on
September 10th.
in which he is observed on video in a
plain maroon t-shirt, light colored
shorts, a black hat with a white logo,
and light colored shoes. When
encountered in person by investigators
in Washington County on September 12th
in the early morning hours, Robinson was
observed in consistent clothing with
those surveillance images.
>> Wow, that's incredible. So, when the
cops apprehended Robinson in the early
hours of September 12th, the alleged
assassin was actually still wearing the
clothes he was seen wearing in that CCTV
footage.
I got nightmares in my head. I feel
my minds
and it haunts me so much deeper. I got
nightmares in my head.
>> Hello and welcome to True Crime Rocket
Science. When Governor Cox refers to
those surveillance images, I think he's
referring to the maroon shirt and
shorts, not the black shirt and jeans
that ABC News places on screen when Cox
is talking. This is another good example
of how false inferences are made, often
by mistake. It's like Paty Ramsay all
over again. She was also seen the next
morning by police wearing the same
clothes she'd worn the night before at
the White's Christmas party. It's one of
those quirks of the trade, things that
happen in a case that just don't seem to
make sense. We wouldn't do it, but it's
not really about us. It's about whether
this person did it. Of course, someone
assassinating someone else doesn't make
sense either. The real question in true
crime is never how or why it doesn't
make sense to you or me, but how or why
it does make sense to them. When we do
this, we aren't trying to justify,
rationalize, or sympathize with a
killer's motive. We're simply trying to
understand the process, the mechanism,
the criminal psychology. That's
certainly an area I'm very interested
in. So, what is the mechanism in this
case? Where did the criminal psychology
come from? What swed the seed? Where and
how?
>> Investigators interviewed a family
member of Robinson who stated that
Robinson had become more political in
recent years. idea
small.
In this analysis, I want to talk about
the idea, the mechanism really of online
radicalization.
By the way, if you think it only applies
to this person in this case, it's
actually happening in a in a sense to
all of us. And so it's really important
that we do understand it and take stock
of what is happening. I also want to
address a few ideas surrounding the
footage that I've heard that has led to
so many being suspicious of it, such as
why there's no footage of the sniper
taking a shot. Personally, I find this
case really interesting, quite troubling
really because it reflects, I think, on
how to what extent we are anchored in
reality or to what extent we are
anchored in fictions and things that
aren't real, in ideas that are derived
from reality but not reality itself. But
before we get to that, if you haven't
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Thanks also to Charles Bllythefield who
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Well, thanks very much, Charles, for
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That's from the movie Inception, a very
powerful film about reality and being in
a dream world. And the truth that she
had chosen to forget was that her world
was a dream and death was the only way
to escape it. to think about those words
in the context of this case that the
only way to escape the issues that Tyler
Robinson felt that he was facing was
through death in this case someone
else's death that's the dream
essentially the nightmare that that's
the idea that took seed in his mind in
his heart in his psychology
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it's one thing to know this
intellectually but how does the process
actually work. How does this actually
happen practically? Well, let's try to
connect the dots. Toxic politics
includes character assassination. That's
where it starts. Allowed to metastasize,
which is what is happening in the s of
social media and it morphs into what we
have now. Actual assassinations starts
with character assassination, ends with
actual assassinations. According to CNN,
the nearly undetectable threat of
snipers has security professionals
sounding the alarm as age-old tactics of
assassination become the tool of choice
for modern killers often fueled by
ubiquitous streams of online hate. I do
think that, you know, you talk about
age-old tactics of assassination. This
is what was done in ancient history.
Think about Caesar. Caesar was stabbed
by Brutus etu brute 2,000 years ago. And
it does feel like we are regressing in
terms of our civilization. Why? Well,
because the algorithm really um grabs us
at the roots of ourselves, our
tribalism. And that tribalism is what
ruled civilization a long time ago. In a
way, prevented civilization from from
manifesting.
According to CNN, snipers have been a
potential threat for centuries. That's
absolutely true. But security experts
say that the current toxic United States
political climate, coupled with a threat
of rapid online radicalization and easy
access to guns, requires an especially
urgent adjustment to an emerging form of
deadly violence. Now, I have actually
visited Rome and Greece as well, and
there's a lot of assassinations in Greek
history and Roman history. You can
imagine how that basically prevents
civilization from getting its start and
also a civilization that's already
gotten its start. What that does, it
just is so self-limiting.
>> I choose the Matrix.
>> The Matrix isn't real.
>> I disagree, Trinity. I think the Matrix
can be more real than this world.
And often whether by hook or by crook,
consciously or unconsciously, we try to
escape reality, the predicament we find
ourselves in by cheating, by going out
of it, by going into fantasy, by going
into ideas, unrealistic ideas, untrue
ideas. As you see in the movie
Inception, ideas about reality can be
more real than reality itself. A dream
world can often feel more real than the
real world. And I have to say I'm seeing
that more and more as I cover one
high-profile case after another. In this
case, a popular idea is that the CCTV
footage of the alleged shooter is
docked. They don't understand how a
static CCTV camera can zoom in while
watching a passive recording on screen.
But this happens to be a feature in most
security camera systems. Zoom, I mean,
just like it is on your phone. And you
know when you take a photo, you want to
zoom in on a photo. Well, you do that
after you've taken it. It's not zooming
in while it's recording. In a recent
episode of News Nation, a YouTuber
describes how he is zooming in on the
original footage.
>> The camera is coming from the chef store
and I'm the one that's zooming it
around. Um, just making a little bit
clear
>> and that's why you zoom in to make it
clearer. Sorry, I thought that sort of
thing is obvious, but I guess it's not
obvious to everyone. Here's the original
wide-angle frame, which is common in
these sorts of cameras. You can see the
original angle includes the entire view
area from the sniper's position on the
far left to the point where he dropped
down on the grass and left a shoe
impression to the area on the far right
where he's walking along the road. How
and why this is zoomed in is that you
simply have another camera zooming in on
the original footage which is on screen.
Um, why it's zoomed in is because you
can barely see the figure moving in the
original widescreen format. Another way
to zoom in is actually using the tools
of the actual security system. So, why
is there no footage of the sniper taking
a shot? Anyone know? Anyone thought
critically about that? Well, I'll circle
back to this, but I'd be interested to
see if you can draw the correct
inference from what we know or if your
default is to it's a conspiracy and
footage is docked, which is like quickly
choosing the dream world, quickly
choosing an idea simply because you
can't explain reality. Now, I want to
deal with online radicalization and I
have to say I learned something here.
According to the conversation, the
global video game market is enormous
with an estimated value of almost $300
billion in 2024. Of the more than three
billion gamers, that's almost a third
more than a third of the population of
this planet, the largest percentage is
made up of young adults aged 18 to 34.
Many of these are vulnerable young men.
18 to 22 year old men are vulnerable
because why? Well, they are still
finding out who they are. They're still
becoming who they are. They're still
testing out beliefs and ideas about who
they are and how the world works. And
often in this is a period when men can
either gain or feel that they are losing
agency. Think about Charlie Kirk gaining
agency. Think about Charlie Kirk gaining
agency and and giving some of that to
the president, allowing him to gain
agency, you know, and win the election.
huge realworld crowds attending Kirk's
campaigns. These were only eclipsed by
crowds online numbering in the millions.
And think about a male who loses his
scholarship falls out of favor with his
family. Meanwhile, an idea starts
brewing in his mind. An idea born in the
the the arena of sniper themed video
games. And what is the what is behind
all of this? It's a young male who is
losing his agency and he's trying to get
it back. Now, according to the
conversation, the extremist activists
have long recognized this group as a
demographic ripe for radicalization. I
covered that with the Boston Bombers in
a book that I wrote called Slaughter.
These groups have produced
ethnationalist themed games in which
players defend the white race against
Islamist, immigrants, LGBTQ,
uh, Jews, and more. But the interesting
insight here isn't that the game itself
is the inspiration. According to the
conversation, for many, the Kirk
shooting has resurfaced the perennial
question about the link or lack thereof
between playing violent video games and
realworld violence. Now, remember what I
said about character assassination,
which is an idea of how to deal with
your opponent and real assassination.
Thought begets action. Be careful what
you think because those thoughts on
repeat manifest in reality. Be careful
also what you say and take note
especially of what you say every day.
>> The family member referenced a recent
incident in which Robinson came to
dinner prior to September 10th. And in
the conversation with another family
member, Robinson mentioned Charlie Kirk
was coming to UVU.
>> Well, what more than that?
>> They talked about why they didn't like
him and the viewpoints that he had. The
family member also stated Kirk was full
of hate and spreading hate. And
remember, Tyler Robinson also referenced
hate in his text exchange. And now
here's the insight. Here's the number
three clue we all missed. According to
the conversation, while this is an
important line of inquiry, this whole
study of violent computer games, the
evidence suggests most radicalization
takes place not through playing video
games themselves, but through gaming
platform communication channels. Let's
put those words on screen. gaming
platform, communication channels. So,
it's not the game itself, but it's the
game platform
and in theory also just communication
channels associated with gaming
channels. In other words, it's the
chatter around these games.
>> What a mind you have.
>> What happens when you get caught up in
these games and in these scenarios, you
know, that are being that are on repeat?
What happens?
All of this gaming is an effort to
escape a certain kind of reality. And
that that reality might be I don't have
much agency in the real world. I don't
know how to handle the real world. The
real world hasn't been very nice to me.
The real world isn't very nice to me.
According to the conversation, in 2020,
my colleagues and I studied an
extraordinary data dump of more than 9
million posts from the gaming platform
Steam, which I've actually used to
understand this process. We found
evidence of radicalization occurring
through communication channels such as
team voice channels. Here, players
establish connections with one another
and can leverage these connections for
political recruitment. The
radicalization of vulnerable users is
not instantaneous. Once extremists have
connected with potential targets, they
invite them into other platforms such as
Discord or private chat rooms. These
spaces allow for meme and image sharing
as well as ongoing voice and video
conversations. Skillful recruiters will
play to a target specific grievances.
These may be personal, psychosexual such
as being unable to gain love or approval
or else otherwise related to divisive
issues such as employment, housing or
gender roles. Now, I must say I see the
same thing happening on YouTube. The
other recruiters are content creators
often who aren't trying to tell the
truth. They're trying to sucker you into
watching their video by both figuring
out who you are, what you want to hear,
and then just coming up with an angle
that meets those expectations. According
to the conversation, the recruit is
initiated into a fastchanging set of
cynical in jokes and in-group terms.
These may include mocking self-d
designation such as the peppy the frog
meme used by the farright to ironically
embrace their ugly political
incorrectness. They also use derogatory
terms for enemies such as woke social
justice warriors, soy boys, fascists,
and cultural Marxists. In the same way,
you can have online radicalization just
online on any platform. According to the
conversation, gradually the new recruit
becomes accustomed to the casual
denigration and dehumanization of the
enemies. Social isolation and mental
illness are some of the factors online
extremists use to exploit when luring
vulnerable individuals. Of course, what
we're dealing with here isn't somebody
else recruiting and someone else
radicalizing. It's someone who's
radicalizing themselves. There's
something in a in an environment where
there's a lot of this dehumanization
taking place, denigration taking place.
And of course, it's in an atmosphere of
denigration. The other side is also
denigrating. The other side is also
dehumanizing. I mean, from the
perpetrator's perspective. According to
the conversation, ultimately in an
increasingly online world, the best way
to keep young people safe from online
radicalization is what? Well, to keep
having constructive offline
conversations for people to meet in the
real world, have coffee face to face,
and do things away from the keyboard.
What else can you do offline that's
enjoyable? Well, walk your dog,
exercise, travel, cook, well, whatever
blows your hair back. Meanwhile, what is
missing in this analysis? It's a good
analysis, but there's a vital thing
missing from it. What's missing in this
analysis of young men being changed,
influenced, radicalized online? What is
a key ingredient in male online
consumption that's less key, for
example, with female audiences? And
we'll deal with that in the next
episode. Now, I did say I would circle
back to this question of why there's no
footage of the sniper taking a shot.
Well, it's because the weapon is on the
far side. It's on the opposite side.
It's directed away from the camera. So,
if you did see the sniper there, you
might be able to see the soles of his
shoes or a slight movement, but from
this angle, you won't see the shot being
fired. Does that make sense? I've posted
a little bit of a extended postcript on
this whole issue of the video footage.
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