We Need Accountability For Those Celebrating and Encouraging Political Violence

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[00:00] All right, everybody. Welcome to the

[00:01] Charlie Kirk Show. This is Andrew

[00:04] Kvette, executive producer of this show,

[00:06] joined by Blake Nef, our not so secret

[00:10] secret weapon.

[00:13] You're going to love this eventually.

[00:14] You are going to love it. Um,

[00:17] so I want to start with just a praise

[00:20] report from last night at Montana State

[00:23] University where the Turning Point tour,

[00:27] we call it this is the turning point,

[00:29] campus tour, had its next stop. And

[00:33] this, look at these images for you

[00:36] watching uh at home or on the stream. It

[00:39] this this place is packed in Montana.

[00:42] This is not a population center, Blake.

[00:44] And the amount of energy in this room

[00:47] was so extraordinary. They were

[00:50] chanting, they were jumping up and down.

[00:52] And then Vive Ramaswami uh you know left

[00:55] his campaign in Ohio by the way where

[00:57] he's uh attempting to be the next

[00:59] governor of the state of Ohio to come

[01:02] speak with our students which just again

[01:03] shows the amount of commitment that the

[01:06] friends in the movement have for what

[01:08] we're doing at Turning Point. Um let's

[01:11] go ahead and play cut 88. And just to

[01:14] give you a small sample of just how

[01:18] rockous this crowd was at Montana State

[01:20] University.

[01:33] Charlieie

[01:43] Charlie.

[01:44] [Applause]

[01:51] >> Thank you all for joining us and we'll

[01:53] get started.

[01:54] >> You wonder if that could be the uh maybe

[01:57] that'll just be our catch-all positive

[01:59] chant almost like USA. Yeah. You know, I

[02:01] could I could imagine just seeing that

[02:03] break out years into the future just as

[02:05] a good

[02:06] >> I totally have. I I'll never forget the

[02:08] first time I heard the Charlie chant. It

[02:10] was actually at Politicon in that

[02:11] amazing uh jank uh moment that has gone

[02:15] viral.

[02:15] >> Oh, where he went nuts. Oh yeah, the the

[02:18] viral clip. And then Charlie walks out

[02:20] of the venue. I'm with him. Actually,

[02:23] Erica was there, too. And uh it was all

[02:27] these young guys just go, "Charlie,

[02:29] Charlie." And I remember going like,

[02:30] "Wow,

[02:31] >> he's he's lucky he's got a nice

[02:32] chantable name.

[02:33] >> He's got a great chantable name. Andrew

[02:34] doesn't want

[02:36] >> Yeah. Blake's not going to work." No.

[02:38] No.

[02:38] >> So, but you know what this was for me,

[02:39] Blake? It was like a It was a clarifying

[02:41] moment because we've been through a lot

[02:42] in the last couple days and weeks.

[02:44] >> And there's been a lot of fixation on

[02:47] the who, right? The the like who killed

[02:49] Charlie? Well, you know, they've got the

[02:51] suspect. Okay? We feel really good about

[02:52] that case. It's very strong. Here's what

[02:54] I will say, though. What we need to make

[02:56] this about is the what

[02:59] >> and that is the the the fact that we are

[03:01] back on campus that we're talking about

[03:04] the ideas we're dialoguing with

[03:05] students. We're dialoguing about the

[03:08] fact that we should be having a dialogue

[03:10] that we should not be using violence

[03:12] that we should not be using political

[03:14] violence that we need to call that out

[03:16] and and basically root it out root and

[03:20] stem from this country because we're

[03:22] seeing these very disturbing trends. And

[03:25] that's what Turning Point is all that

[03:26] that is why you want to know why Turning

[03:28] Point is so important right now is

[03:30] because we have always been about the

[03:33] debate. We've always been about the

[03:34] dialogue. We've always been about having

[03:36] the conversation because that's what

[03:37] America is supposed to be about. And yet

[03:40] there's this really disturbing story

[03:42] that's coming out of Washington DC where

[03:44] a man is targeting is it was is has been

[03:48] discovered with explosives. The red mass

[03:51] talk about it.

[03:51] >> So all right. So, for those who don't

[03:53] know, the Red Mass is a thing that

[03:54] happens once a year around the start of

[03:56] the Supreme Court term. Uh, it has its

[03:59] roots in the Middle Ages. Uh, it's like

[04:01] a very formal thing that it's like a

[04:03] Catholic mass that's sort of dedicated

[04:06] to lawyers, which it's already a scary

[04:08] thing. You know, religious rituals and

[04:10] lawyers don't don't mix well. But

[04:12] anyway, it's a traditional thing. Get

[04:15] dressed up. And it's of course become a

[04:16] big deal because so many of the

[04:17] conservative Supreme Court justices uh

[04:20] in recent years have been Catholic. They

[04:22] often go to this service uh and then a

[04:24] lot of other Catholic lawyers will

[04:25] attend it as well.

[04:27] >> And so this man uh Louie Garry uh 41

[04:30] years old, he apparently was in a tent

[04:33] in front of the church when police

[04:35] arrived to clear the area because there

[04:37] were going to be a bunch of Supreme

[04:38] Court justices there. And then this guy

[04:41] clearly doesn't seem to have it all

[04:43] right be all right in the head cuz he's

[04:45] just got a tent in front of this church.

[04:47] And then when the police approach he

[04:48] says get away I have a bunch of

[04:50] explosive devices. They said over 200

[04:54] which sounded to me like did he have

[04:56] just a bunch of fireworks or something?

[04:57] But what it was is apparently they were

[04:59] all homemade. Uh they were vials of

[05:01] nitromemethane.

[05:03] Uh, and it appears he was basically

[05:05] making homemade Molotov cocktail type

[05:08] things that he told officers that the

[05:10] vials were intended to be used as

[05:12] grenades with rubber bands to secure the

[05:15] fuse. According to court records, uh, he

[05:18] was in possession of Molotov cocktails

[05:20] and modified bottle rockets covered with

[05:22] aluminum foil and treated in a pyrochnic

[05:26] solution. The devices appeared fully

[05:28] functional, so it seems. Uh he he said,

[05:31] "You might want to stay back and call

[05:33] the federales. I have explosives." Gary

[05:36] said. Now, we're fortunate. This guy

[05:38] just appears to have been pretty nuts.

[05:40] So, not really capable of pulling off a

[05:43] complicated attack scheme, but I think

[05:45] he's very indicative. Just last week, we

[05:47] had the sentencing of the attempted

[05:49] assassin of Brett Kavanaaugh. That guy

[05:52] was a lot more uh systematic in his

[05:55] approach. He figured out how can I, you

[05:58] know, how can I get a gun? How can I get

[05:59] an approach? He had like wire cutters

[06:01] and a knife and an all it was a serious

[06:04] very serious attempt very serious

[06:05] attempt flew across the country to do it

[06:07] and then would have done it except he

[06:09] had a failure of nerve when he saw

[06:11] federal agents outside Kavanaaugh's

[06:12] house turned himself in and then this

[06:14] federal judge says you know I feel bad

[06:16] for you because you'd have to go to a

[06:18] men's prison and now you say you're a

[06:20] transgender woman so I'm only going to

[06:22] give you eight years you've already

[06:23] served three you could be out you know

[06:25] three years from now and

[06:28] then when you know when even when his

[06:30] own lawyer said like like the judge got

[06:33] angry when someone referred to this as a

[06:34] political attack because judges aren't

[06:36] political. Judges aren't political.

[06:37] There's no there's no political agenda

[06:39] that could come into play when possibly

[06:40] doing one of these. And so, yeah, we're

[06:43] seeing this environment, this

[06:45] environment that people are marinating

[06:47] in because the left has used this, you

[06:50] know, they use the fascist word a lot,

[06:51] they use the Nazi word a lot. they

[06:54] really whip people up when they anytime

[06:56] there's these rulings related to things

[06:58] like child gender transitions

[07:01] um things like that they they won't say

[07:04] like oh this is a bad ruling they will

[07:06] say they're denying your existence they

[07:09] will say you they are trying to destroy

[07:11] your right to exist they're using this

[07:13] totalizing they're going to kill you

[07:15] rhetoric

[07:16] >> well and I you know this is why

[07:19] in the aftermath of what happened to

[07:21] Charlie it was so important that there

[07:23] was all of these accounts and a major

[07:25] hat tip to libs of TikTok. I certainly

[07:27] didn't have the the brain space to even

[07:29] do this. But I saw, you know, you go on

[07:31] Twitter, everybody's outing these people

[07:32] celebrating because ultimately that is a

[07:35] culture that's celebrating death, fet

[07:37] fetishizing political violence. And

[07:39] that's why I think it's important that

[07:41] that we were trying to get some of these

[07:42] people fired. I think that's completely

[07:44] >> we need a taboo on political

[07:47] assassination%. Also though, you need

[07:50] judges to not give lenient leniency to

[07:54] potential assassins. This is the the

[07:55] direct through line between these two

[07:57] cases is that you have leniency on an a

[08:00] potential assassin and then oh lo and

[08:02] behold, a week later this happens where

[08:04] a guy's sitting outside of where all the

[08:07] justices are going to be with

[08:09] explosives. Yeah, he's a looney looney

[08:11] tunes. He's crazy. But that you have to

[08:14] understand if you do not enforce the

[08:16] law, if you do not punish evildoers,

[08:18] society will fall apart.

[08:20] >> I love this headline. Uh NBC4 Washington

[08:22] had a tweet about this. A man who had

[08:25] vials of liquid uh was arrested outside

[08:28] the Impossible Paris was arrested

[08:29] outside the Cathedral of St. Matthew.

[08:31] And then it has the readers added a

[08:32] note. The vials of liquid were Molotov

[08:34] cocktails. It's one of the alltime

[08:36] great.

[08:36] >> It could have just been, you know, it

[08:37] could have been his Diet Coke, you know,

[08:39] >> all one of the all-time great um

[08:41] community notes on on X. Uh but yeah, I

[08:44] mean here here's the thing. We need to

[08:45] make sure that the evildoers are

[08:46] punished. We need to make sure the taboo

[08:48] remains in full force, full strength.

[08:50] And we and that's why people getting

[08:52] fired from their jobs is completely

[08:53] appropriate when you celebrate violence.

[08:55] When you act like a a vile, ghoulish

[08:58] person or when you're like Jimmy Kimmel

[09:00] and you try and lie about who's behind a

[09:03] certain attack and then you're going to

[09:04] double down on it, then yeah, you

[09:06] deserve consequences and you deserve the

[09:08] backlash because the taboo is import

[09:11] taboo is important and critical for our

[09:13] society. But more than that, we need

[09:14] actual consequences.

[Music] All right, everybody. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. This is Andrew Kvette, executive producer of this show, joined by Blake Nef, our not so secret secret weapon. You're going to love this eventually. You are going to love it. Um, so I want to start with just a praise report from last night at Montana State University where the Turning Point tour, we call it this is the turning point, campus tour, had its next stop. And this, look at these images for you watching uh at home or on the stream. It this this place is packed in Montana. This is not a population center, Blake. And the amount of energy in this room was so extraordinary. They were chanting, they were jumping up and down. And then Vive Ramaswami uh you know left his campaign in Ohio by the way where he's uh attempting to be the next governor of the state of Ohio to come speak with our students which just again shows the amount of commitment that the friends in the movement have for what we're doing at Turning Point. Um let's go ahead and play cut 88. And just to give you a small sample of just how rockous this crowd was at Montana State University. Charlieie Charlie. [Applause] >> Thank you all for joining us and we'll get started. >> You wonder if that could be the uh maybe that'll just be our catch-all positive chant almost like USA. Yeah. You know, I could I could imagine just seeing that break out years into the future just as a good >> I totally have. I I'll never forget the first time I heard the Charlie chant. It was actually at Politicon in that amazing uh jank uh moment that has gone viral. >> Oh, where he went nuts. Oh yeah, the the viral clip. And then Charlie walks out of the venue. I'm with him. Actually, Erica was there, too. And uh it was all these young guys just go, "Charlie, Charlie." And I remember going like, "Wow, >> he's he's lucky he's got a nice chantable name. >> He's got a great chantable name. Andrew doesn't want >> Yeah. Blake's not going to work." No. No. >> So, but you know what this was for me, Blake? It was like a It was a clarifying moment because we've been through a lot in the last couple days and weeks. >> And there's been a lot of fixation on the who, right? The the like who killed Charlie? Well, you know, they've got the suspect. Okay? We feel really good about that case. It's very strong. Here's what I will say, though. What we need to make this about is the what >> and that is the the the fact that we are back on campus that we're talking about the ideas we're dialoguing with students. We're dialoguing about the fact that we should be having a dialogue that we should not be using violence that we should not be using political violence that we need to call that out and and basically root it out root and stem from this country because we're seeing these very disturbing trends. And that's what Turning Point is all that that is why you want to know why Turning Point is so important right now is because we have always been about the debate. We've always been about the dialogue. We've always been about having the conversation because that's what America is supposed to be about. And yet there's this really disturbing story that's coming out of Washington DC where a man is targeting is it was is has been discovered with explosives. The red mass talk about it. >> So all right. So, for those who don't know, the Red Mass is a thing that happens once a year around the start of the Supreme Court term. Uh, it has its roots in the Middle Ages. Uh, it's like a very formal thing that it's like a Catholic mass that's sort of dedicated to lawyers, which it's already a scary thing. You know, religious rituals and lawyers don't don't mix well. But anyway, it's a traditional thing. Get dressed up. And it's of course become a big deal because so many of the conservative Supreme Court justices uh in recent years have been Catholic. They often go to this service uh and then a lot of other Catholic lawyers will attend it as well. >> And so this man uh Louie Garry uh 41 years old, he apparently was in a tent in front of the church when police arrived to clear the area because there were going to be a bunch of Supreme Court justices there. And then this guy clearly doesn't seem to have it all right be all right in the head cuz he's just got a tent in front of this church. And then when the police approach he says get away I have a bunch of explosive devices. They said over 200 which sounded to me like did he have just a bunch of fireworks or something? But what it was is apparently they were all homemade. Uh they were vials of nitromemethane. Uh, and it appears he was basically making homemade Molotov cocktail type things that he told officers that the vials were intended to be used as grenades with rubber bands to secure the fuse. According to court records, uh, he was in possession of Molotov cocktails and modified bottle rockets covered with aluminum foil and treated in a pyrochnic solution. The devices appeared fully functional, so it seems. Uh he he said, "You might want to stay back and call the federales. I have explosives." Gary said. Now, we're fortunate. This guy just appears to have been pretty nuts. So, not really capable of pulling off a complicated attack scheme, but I think he's very indicative. Just last week, we had the sentencing of the attempted assassin of Brett Kavanaaugh. That guy was a lot more uh systematic in his approach. He figured out how can I, you know, how can I get a gun? How can I get an approach? He had like wire cutters and a knife and an all it was a serious very serious attempt very serious attempt flew across the country to do it and then would have done it except he had a failure of nerve when he saw federal agents outside Kavanaaugh's house turned himself in and then this federal judge says you know I feel bad for you because you'd have to go to a men's prison and now you say you're a transgender woman so I'm only going to give you eight years you've already served three you could be out you know three years from now and then when you know when even when his own lawyer said like like the judge got angry when someone referred to this as a political attack because judges aren't political. Judges aren't political. There's no there's no political agenda that could come into play when possibly doing one of these. And so, yeah, we're seeing this environment, this environment that people are marinating in because the left has used this, you know, they use the fascist word a lot, they use the Nazi word a lot. they really whip people up when they anytime there's these rulings related to things like child gender transitions um things like that they they won't say like oh this is a bad ruling they will say they're denying your existence they will say you they are trying to destroy your right to exist they're using this totalizing they're going to kill you rhetoric >> well and I you know this is why in the aftermath of what happened to Charlie it was so important that there was all of these accounts and a major hat tip to libs of TikTok. I certainly didn't have the the brain space to even do this. But I saw, you know, you go on Twitter, everybody's outing these people celebrating because ultimately that is a culture that's celebrating death, fet fetishizing political violence. And that's why I think it's important that that we were trying to get some of these people fired. I think that's completely >> we need a taboo on political assassination%. Also though, you need judges to not give lenient leniency to potential assassins. This is the the direct through line between these two cases is that you have leniency on an a potential assassin and then oh lo and behold, a week later this happens where a guy's sitting outside of where all the justices are going to be with explosives. Yeah, he's a looney looney tunes. He's crazy. But that you have to understand if you do not enforce the law, if you do not punish evildoers, society will fall apart. >> I love this headline. Uh NBC4 Washington had a tweet about this. A man who had vials of liquid uh was arrested outside the Impossible Paris was arrested outside the Cathedral of St. Matthew. And then it has the readers added a note. The vials of liquid were Molotov cocktails. It's one of the alltime great. >> It could have just been, you know, it could have been his Diet Coke, you know, >> all one of the all-time great um community notes on on X. Uh but yeah, I mean here here's the thing. We need to make sure that the evildoers are punished. We need to make sure the taboo remains in full force, full strength. And we and that's why people getting fired from their jobs is completely appropriate when you celebrate violence. When you act like a a vile, ghoulish person or when you're like Jimmy Kimmel and you try and lie about who's behind a certain attack and then you're going to double down on it, then yeah, you deserve consequences and you deserve the backlash because the taboo is import taboo is important and critical for our society. But more than that, we need actual consequences.