Alex Stein Reflects on Charlie Kirk's Legacy, Media Response, and Fight for Free Speech in America

[00:00] He's someone I really looked up to and

[00:01] really admired as well. But it is so

[00:04] horrific as you say, especially some of

[00:06] the celebrations we're seeing on the far

[00:07] left, people celebrating his his death.

[00:09] It's horrific. And you know,

[00:13] looking at um what's unfolded since he

[00:15] died, you trying to make sense of it

[00:17] all. They tried to silence Charlie

[00:19] because he spoke the truth and also

[00:21] people listened. But it's interesting,

[00:23] by killing him, they have made Charlie's

[00:25] voice uh even louder. Charlie Kirk's

[00:27] podcast is now the number one podcast in

[00:31] the world. So, this brings me some

[00:33] comfort knowing that there are more

[00:35] people now listening to him and

[00:37] listening to his wisdom.

[00:40] No, not only that, but you know, Turning

[00:41] Point USA, who I'm so lucky they let me

[00:44] be a part of their great organization,

[00:46] you know, they talked about in the past

[00:47] week Charlie has gotten over 15 billion

[00:50] views on his social media platforms. So,

[00:53] of course, Charlie's legacy is going to

[00:55] live on and and we can find a little

[00:57] silver lining that there's a lot of

[00:59] people that might not have known who

[01:00] Charlie Kirk is now that know very well

[01:02] who he is now. So, so there is there is

[01:05] a silver lining, but at at the same

[01:07] exact moment, I'm finding it very

[01:09] difficult to kind of envision a world

[01:11] being better without Charlie than with

[01:14] him. And I think I think it's just

[01:16] impossible to think the world is a

[01:17] better place without a true American

[01:19] patriot that believed in God not being

[01:21] here. But we have no choice. You know,

[01:24] what is life? Life is suffering. So,

[01:25] we're going to have to suffer through

[01:26] the pain and really honor Charlie by not

[01:29] giving up and continuing to have

[01:31] discussions that might be difficult but

[01:33] are necessary.

[01:34] Absolutely. Now, prosecutors have

[01:37] charged Tyler Robinson with the murder

[01:39] of Charlie Kirk, and the state is

[01:41] seeking the death penalty. Prosecutors

[01:43] alleged that Tyler Robinson became more

[01:45] and more left in recent years. We've

[01:47] also, Alex, seen a lot of fake news

[01:49] online. I mean, there were pictures of

[01:50] the of Tyler Robinson in a Trump shirt

[01:53] that were circulating online that were

[01:55] fake, and people have even tried to cast

[01:58] the suspect as some kind of MAGA person.

[02:00] It's just another disgusting lie.

[02:04] Well, the conspiracy theories right now

[02:06] are so prevalent, you can't go on social

[02:08] media without hearing a new uh

[02:10] conspiracy theory surrounding Charlie's

[02:12] murder. But this is the problem is that

[02:14] on both sides of the aisle, people have

[02:17] lost faith in the federal government.

[02:18] People have lost faith in the FBI.

[02:20] People have lost faith in actually

[02:22] getting the official story and it being

[02:24] the truth from the American government.

[02:26] So, I think that's where we're at is

[02:28] that I obviously don't want to get into

[02:30] the conspiracies yet. I don't want to

[02:31] jump to any conclusions. We have to wait

[02:33] and see what happens, of course. But,

[02:35] there's just going to be there's going

[02:36] to be an ecosystem of people just

[02:38] spreading the craziest conspiracies to

[02:40] get clicks and and that just comes with

[02:41] the territory sadly. But, uh there are

[02:44] some weird things with this though. Like

[02:46] I love Charlie. Obviously a lot of

[02:48] people love Charlie, but I don't

[02:50] understand how somebody could hate

[02:51] Charlie so much enough to go and

[02:53] brutally murder him in front of

[02:55] thousands of people. Like it takes a

[02:56] special kind of sickness and hatred that

[02:58] I I can't even imagine having for

[03:00] somebody. And and I've witnessed, you

[03:02] know, I've been the victim of really bad

[03:03] things and I still didn't wish death on

[03:05] any of my enemies. So for this Tyler guy

[03:07] to want to kill Charlie Kirk because he

[03:09] wants, you know, he's pro-life or

[03:11] because he wants the, you know, First

[03:13] Amendment to exist, it it it almost it

[03:16] doesn't make sense. It really doesn't

[03:17] make sense. So obviously, let's not

[03:19] believe all the conspiracies, but just

[03:20] the story, this whole entire event, it

[03:23] doesn't feel real. So I think that's why

[03:25] people are are, you know, trying to find

[03:27] answers in a situation where there's not

[03:30] a lot of answers right now. The media

[03:32] has also been pretty horrible uh

[03:34] reporting on Charlie Kirk's death. I

[03:35] mean, we've heard suggestions on places

[03:37] like MSNBC that Charlie Kirk essentially

[03:40] deserved to die. And today, as

[03:41] prosecutors revealed more details about

[03:43] Tyler Robinson, the suspect, they also

[03:46] revealed text messages between Tyler

[03:48] Robinson and his trans boyfriend. And

[03:50] this is how the ABC News decided to

[03:53] cover it.

[03:54] We have seen uh an alleged murder with

[03:58] such specific text messages about the

[04:01] alleged murder weapon, where it was

[04:03] hidden, how it was placed, what was on

[04:05] it, but also it was very touching in a

[04:07] way that I think many of us didn't

[04:08] expect. A very intimate portrait into

[04:11] this relationship between the suspect's

[04:14] roommate uh and the suspect himself with

[04:16] him repeatedly calling his roommate who

[04:19] was transitioning uh calling him my love

[04:21] and I want to protect you my love. Um,

[04:23] so it was this duality of someone who

[04:25] the attorney said not only jeopardized

[04:28] the life of Charlie Kirk and the crowd,

[04:30] but was doing it in front of children,

[04:31] which is one of the aggravating

[04:32] circumstances of this case. And on the

[04:34] other hand, he was, you know, speaking

[04:36] so lovingly about his partner. So a very

[04:38] interesting and, as Pierre said,

[04:40] riveting press conference, David,

[04:42] I mean, what on earth was that? Speaking

[04:45] very lovingly about his partner,

[04:46] describing it as very touching. I mean,

[04:49] this is an alleged murderous monster,

[04:51] and they're painting him out, or they're

[04:53] describing him, I should say, or

[04:55] suggesting that he's some sort of

[04:57] romantic. Alex,

[04:59] everybody needs to clip this, guys. This

[05:01] is what we're dealing with here in

[05:03] America, is that a person brutally

[05:05] murdered a father of two kids in front

[05:07] of his own wife. And ABC is going to

[05:09] come on and romanticize some sort of

[05:11] weird text message exchange with a

[05:13] killer and their transgender boyfriend.

[05:15] We have lost the plot in America. ABC is

[05:18] basically the enemy of the people. And

[05:21] for him to try to sensationalize or

[05:24] romanticize their text messages makes me

[05:27] absolutely sick. And that's that's the

[05:30] only way you can feel like there's

[05:32] nothing romantic about him sending a a

[05:34] text message to a person admitting that

[05:36] he killed Charlie Kirk. Literally

[05:38] nothing romantic about it. It's the most

[05:39] repugnant thing. And for him to even

[05:41] describe it like that shows that that

[05:43] that broadcaster, that sorry excuse for

[05:45] broadcaster is obviously mentally ill or

[05:48] he's dating a trans person. I don't know

[05:49] which it is, but it it doesn't make

[05:51] sense to romanticize something so

[05:52] horrible.

[05:53] I can't believe it. It's disgusting. Any

[05:56] I I don't know why I'm still shocked

[05:57] anymore, but that's up there. That

[05:59] shocks me. Now, Attorney General Pam

[06:01] Bondi is being slammed for saying

[06:03] there's no place for hate speech. Listen

[06:05] to this.

[06:06] There's free speech and then there's

[06:07] hate speech. And there is no place,

[06:11] especially now, especially after what

[06:13] happened to Charlie in our society.

[06:15] Do you see more law enforcement going

[06:19] after these groups who are using hate

[06:21] speech and putting cuffs on people so we

[06:23] show them that some action is better

[06:25] than no action.

[06:26] We will absolutely target you, go after

[06:30] you if you are targeting anyone with

[06:33] hate speech, anything. And that's across

[06:35] the aisle. Now, Alex, she's being

[06:38] slammed for this because Charlie Kirk

[06:39] was, of course, a huge advocate for free

[06:41] speech. He wanted to keep America free.

[06:44] He wrote in a post last year. Hate

[06:46] speech does not exist legally in

[06:48] America. There's ugly speech, there's

[06:50] gross speech, there's evil speech, and

[06:52] all of it is protected by the First

[06:55] Amendment. Keep America free. I mean,

[06:57] can I get your thoughts on what Pam

[06:59] Bondi had to say there?

[07:02] Well, it makes me lose my faith in Pam

[07:03] Bonnie literally doing the exact

[07:05] opposite of what Charlie Kirk would

[07:07] want. I mean, you even see his tweets.

[07:09] He was a free speech absolutist. He

[07:11] didn't care what you're going to say. He

[07:12] believed in your First Amendment right

[07:14] to say it. So, Pam Bondi saying that

[07:16] they're going to create hate speech

[07:17] laws. Goes against every single thing

[07:20] that Charlie Kirk stood for. So, I hate

[07:22] it. I don't like hate speech laws. They

[07:24] could definitely be manipulated and used

[07:26] in the future. you know, in another

[07:28] pandemic, they might say that if you

[07:29] criticize a vaccine, that's considered

[07:31] hate speech. So, I don't like the

[07:33] opportunity that I know the government

[07:35] could use to enforce these hate speech

[07:36] laws or, you know, it's going to be very

[07:38] vague. So, here in America, if you want

[07:40] to say something bad, that's your

[07:42] god-given right by the Constitution and

[07:44] and Pam Bondi saying that she wants to

[07:46] create hate speech laws. It just it goes

[07:48] against what Charlie truly wanted.

[07:50] It does. Finally, before I let you go,

[07:52] Alex, we cannot forget Arena Zerutska,

[07:55] the 23-year-old Ukrainian refugee who

[07:57] was murdered in cold blood while on a

[07:59] train in Charlotte, North Carolina. A

[08:02] close friend of hers shared this video

[08:04] paying tribute to her.

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[08:17] Does it look

[08:20] yonder

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[08:41] gone?

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[08:49] Alex, I still think of Charlie Kirk

[08:52] because he was one of the the few key

[08:54] voices really speaking out for Arena

[08:57] Zerutska because as we we know the media

[08:59] didn't want to cover her death.

[09:02] the mainstream media did not cover it

[09:04] whatsoever because it paints a narrative

[09:06] that they don't want to expose the you

[09:09] know public to which paints a picture

[09:11] that you know first of all they want to

[09:14] make it white verse black but this is a

[09:16] serious issue a guy with 14 previous

[09:20] arrests was able to go brutally murder a

[09:23] a refugee from the Ukraine so it's not

[09:26] about black or white it's about that we

[09:28] have a judicial system that actually

[09:29] helps criminals and punishes people for

[09:32] following the law. Like Arena got

[09:33] punished for trying to have a job, ride,

[09:37] you know, the public transportation so

[09:40] she can save money. She's trying to

[09:41] struggle here in America. And what does

[09:43] she get for doing that hard work and

[09:44] trying to live the American dream? She

[09:46] gets stabbed by a criminal that should

[09:47] have been in jail a long time ago. So,

[09:49] it's not necessarily a white or black

[09:50] problem. It's a judicial system that

[09:52] benefits criminals and hurts the

[09:55] law-abiding citizens. So, it's a

[09:56] terrible tragedy. what happened to Arena

[09:58] and Charlie before he passed away was a

[10:01] very vocal supporter of her. So I think

[10:03] we just in this terrible time need to

[10:05] support both of them.

[10:06] And it was one of Charlie's last

[10:08] messages speaking about Arena Zerutska.

[10:10] Alex Stein, we have to leave it there.

[10:12] Thank you so much for your time.