Anomalies and Concerns in the Charlie Kirk Murder Case

[00:00] Well, we're going to go over the

[00:01] anomalies in the Charlie Kirk murder

[00:02] case and point out the holes that we

[00:04] cannot fill and we are pissed about. So,

[00:07] join us uh now. First, we're going to

[00:09] talk about the prosecution of Tyler

[00:11] Robinson because it's looking dirtier

[00:12] and dirtier every day. Now, today there

[00:14] was supposed to be a hearing and in that

[00:16] hearing the judge was going to rule on

[00:18] whether or not to allow cameras in the

[00:20] courtroom because both sides and the

[00:23] judge have all pretty much decided they

[00:25] don't really want this, which is

[00:28] strange, right? I mean, think about it.

[00:29] We were able to have cameras to watch

[00:32] Ted Kazinski, OJ Simpson, Timothy McVey,

[00:36] Jeffrey Dawnmer, the Nightstalker, Derek

[00:39] Schovin, Harvey Weinstein, Glain

[00:41] Maxwell. Oh, El Chapo. We have been able

[00:45] to watch courtroom procedures and trials

[00:48] for all of these people.

[00:49] >> Correction.

[00:50] >> But what?

[00:50] >> No. Gain Maxwell.

[00:52] >> We did not see Oh, okay.

[00:53] >> Remember, we just had drawings. We just

[00:55] had drawings.

[00:55] >> That's right. That's right. Um,

[00:57] >> but all the other ones. Yes.

[00:58] >> Yes. Uh, who else did I miss? The Boston

[01:01] Marathon Bombers. Can you think of

[01:03] anybody else? Like, why this guy more so

[01:06] than say Timothy McVey?

[01:09] >> Yeah. I I [laughter] don't know.

[01:12] >> Uh, so that's strange. But the hearing

[01:15] that was supposed to be today was

[01:17] procedural in preparation for a hearing

[01:19] that would be October 30th. And now that

[01:21] has been pushed just a few hours ago.

[01:24] They're saying, "We're not ready for it.

[01:26] We still will do the pre-trial hearing

[01:28] today, but you don't get to see him. No

[01:30] cameras on him. And then the actual

[01:33] hearing won't happen until January,

[01:36] which is str. Okay, this is a

[01:37] high-profile case. The government was so

[01:40] sure this was the guy within 48 hours of

[01:43] the assassination, but they've given us

[01:45] no evidence to stand on except saying

[01:48] they have evidence, but we haven't seen

[01:50] it. Now, not only can we not see him

[01:53] because a lot of times people are saying

[01:55] that his face doesn't match the images

[01:57] that they gave us on the stairwell, we

[01:59] also can't see the procedures.

[02:02] We probably can't see all of it. And now

[02:05] they're not going to give us their full

[02:07] slew of evidence until January, which

[02:10] means they've given themselves the

[02:11] holiday season to craft their narrative,

[02:14] which is strange. Now, the judge is

[02:16] going along with all of this. Let's

[02:19] think about who that judge is. Now, this

[02:21] is a high-profile case. You would hope

[02:22] we'd get a really experienced judge. We

[02:25] don't have that. And in fact, Judge

[02:27] Graph has only been appointed as a judge

[02:29] since May of this year. So, about 6

[02:33] months he's been on the job. That

[02:34] doesn't mean he's not good. Just means

[02:36] he's not experience. So, let's keep that

[02:38] in mind. He's handsome, right? I'm just

[02:41] seeing if you're paying attention.

[02:43] >> Um, okay.

[02:44] >> Are you okay? [laughter] Usually when I

[02:46] call someone handsome, Clayton goes like

[02:47] this. Okay. Uh

[02:49] >> I'm reading the chat room.

[02:50] >> Oh, what? Do they think he's handsome?

[02:51] >> Uh I don't know.

[02:52] >> Okay.

[02:53] >> Denny says you both are losing

[02:55] credibility.

[02:56] >> I don't care. If you don't want to talk

[02:57] about this, go somewhere else. These are

[03:00] things that are unusual in a murder case

[03:01] we're not getting a real answer on. So I

[03:04] mean, actually, we haven't really been

[03:06] smeared for asking legitimate questions

[03:07] as much as others like Candace Owens and

[03:10] uh Jimmy Door. So, okay, we're in good

[03:13] company. Go ahead and say that if you

[03:15] want. Um, now the judge also did approve

[03:18] an extraordinarily broad gag order which

[03:22] pertains to any future lawyers who join

[03:25] the case. How do you gag future lawyers,

[03:28] but they've done it? Roughly 3,000

[03:30] potential witnesses, family members, and

[03:33] others connected to the investigation.

[03:35] Uh, how do people lose their First

[03:37] Amendment rights just because they

[03:38] witnessed a crime? That's highly

[03:41] irregular. And also the extrajudicial

[03:44] commentary, not just public statements,

[03:45] but even informal communication like

[03:48] social media posts could be subject to

[03:51] the gag order. Suspiciously, it does not

[03:54] apply to law enforcement. So that is

[03:57] also strange. Now, why do we need such

[04:00] an extraordinarily broad gag order when

[04:03] the media is not questioning the

[04:05] narrative of this case? The media is all

[04:07] in. Tyler Robinson's the dude. They they

[04:10] are pretty sure of it. They don't

[04:12] present any alternative. So, who is this

[04:14] gagging? You have to ask yourselves.

[04:16] Probably us, right? The independent

[04:20] questioners. Uh, now here's another

[04:23] major hole that's been picked up by

[04:24] independent journalists, which again is

[04:27] probably the target of the gag order.

[04:29] Uh, the narrative of Turning Point's

[04:31] executives is full of holes. Now, you

[04:33] may recall this guy who spoke at Charlie

[04:36] Kirk's memorial right after the

[04:38] assassination. Pastor Rob McCoy was

[04:41] saying, "Hey, you know, Candace Owens

[04:44] questioning this is strange. Charlie

[04:46] would never have done that. He would

[04:47] have been a good friend to her. So, what

[04:49] he thinks is a good friend is not caring

[04:51] how someone is assassinated. I don't

[04:54] need friends like that." Now, when the

[04:56] text came out that Charlie had in fact

[05:00] broken his allegiance to the Israel

[05:02] lobby, that pastor, Rob McCoy, was on

[05:05] the chain. So, he knew this, but denied

[05:08] that it was true. Now, strangely, his

[05:11] son, Michael McCoy, was Charlie's chief

[05:15] of staff, very high level at Turning

[05:17] Points USA, and was there just a few

[05:20] feet away when Charlie was assassinated.

[05:23] Now, let's listen to how his father,

[05:25] Pastor Rob, described his son's

[05:28] experience of the assassination.

[05:31] >> I'm looking at my son who's 24 years

[05:33] old.

[05:35] Justin's the chief CFO, chief financial

[05:38] officer, and Mikey's the chief of staff.

[05:42] And and I'm watching that the minute

[05:43] Charlie was shot, he called me, says,

[05:45] "Dad, Charlie's been shot in the neck.

[05:47] Please call every pastor and pray.

[05:52] I said, "Okay, son. He's he has wits

[05:56] about him. He was just directing. He had

[05:59] blood all over him." And

[06:02] >> Okay. Blood all over him. He said

[06:03] >> blood. He was cover Yeah. covered in

[06:04] blood.

[06:04] >> Covered in blood. Had his wits about

[06:06] him. Well, the video evidence does show

[06:08] that he has his wits about him. He does

[06:10] not panic. He does not rush to Charlie

[06:13] to see if his bestie is okay. He calmly

[06:15] walks away. Now, this is publicly

[06:18] available footage that was put together

[06:20] by uh based Sam Parker. If you're not

[06:22] following him, please do. Uh so, what

[06:25] you're looking at is Mikey in the back

[06:27] in the backpack straps and the white

[06:29] sweatshirt and the white hat. And so, he

[06:33] is with Charlie the whole day. And in

[06:36] fact, he has footage of himself that he

[06:39] published when they drove up. He was in

[06:41] the car. He was one of the four seats

[06:44] taken by the car. Now you see him back

[06:46] there, Charlie speaking. He's still

[06:48] wearing the backpack. The backpack never

[06:50] comes off, thankfully, so we can track

[06:51] him easily because there's a lot of

[06:53] people in white. Now, we are blurring

[06:55] the assassination here, so you don't

[06:57] have to worry about that. Uh, in a few

[07:00] seconds, Charlie will be assassinated.

[07:02] Now, what would you do if your bestie

[07:05] gets shot? Probably not this.

[07:08] >> Walk right away.

[07:09] >> So, watch for a second. That's going to

[07:11] happen. and he walks away. He takes some

[07:13] phone calls and then he comes back.

[07:17] You'll see it in just a second.

[07:20] Okay. So, as soon as Charlie picks up

[07:23] the microphone, he says mostly two,

[07:25] maximum two sentences before he's

[07:27] assassinated. So, watch that man. He's

[07:30] about to be killed. Mikey is still

[07:32] there. He says one or two things. Now,

[07:34] it's blurred. Now, watch him back up. He

[07:36] does not run. He walks calmly behind,

[07:40] puts his hat down, and walks. The

[07:43] footage does show him continuing to

[07:45] walk. He doesn't give Charlie any, you

[07:48] know, there's no blood on him. He

[07:50] doesn't resuscitate. Then when we see

[07:53] Charlie being rushed into the SUV, we

[07:55] can see Mikey down the parking lot

[07:58] walking calmly,

[08:00] >> like walking away.

[08:01] >> How does this happen? So, very well

[08:03] could be that he's calling his father,

[08:04] which is what the pastor just said. He

[08:06] called me and asked for prayers

[08:08] possibly. And we might be able to

[08:10] understand it if he was being a coward

[08:14] running, right? That's not what he was

[08:16] doing. This is inexplicable. It's

[08:19] absolutely. So go ahead. Try try to

[08:22] explain how someone in your that you're

[08:24] that close to on your team gets

[08:27] assassinated and you shrug your

[08:28] shoulders and walk away.

[08:31] Anybody?

[08:32] >> No. I mean, someone could say, "Oh, he's

[08:33] in shock." Which is ridiculous. Like you

[08:36] you process it that quickly to the point

[08:37] where you're going to walk away like I'm

[08:39] done with all these assassinations. I've

[08:40] seen too many. I'm just going to walk

[08:41] down the street. I'm going to go to

[08:42] Burger King or something. Like I I mean

[08:44] I would be running around if he was like

[08:46] my best best friend and I was there with

[08:48] him all the time. I would be scrambling

[08:50] working with people trying to help get

[08:51] him out trying to find a car. How do we

[08:53] get him out of here? Where's the

[08:54] ambulance? Doing whatever you can. I

[08:55] would be casually walking away

[08:57] >> and he doesn't know. So even if his

[08:59] father says he called me and told me

[09:01] these things, there's nothing he could

[09:02] know at this point. the shot goes off or

[09:05] whatever it was also and he backs up.

[09:08] >> So, and also I know people are saying,

[09:09] "Hey, we don't want to rush to judgment

[09:10] on Pastor Rob. We want to give him the

[09:12] benefit of the doubt." But you're saying

[09:13] you're on a I think you said he was on a

[09:14] FaceTime call with his son where he's

[09:16] covered in blood. I think it was a

[09:18] FaceTime call that he specifically said,

[09:19] right? So, my son is covered in blood,

[09:22] Charlie's blood. Well, where when when

[09:24] did that happen? Did you walk back and

[09:26] then help load him into the SUV? Because

[09:28] that happened pretty darn quickly and

[09:29] you were already walking down the

[09:30] street. So, where did the blood come

[09:31] from? Like was it later at the hospital

[09:33] when you got there and you rubbed

[09:34] yourself all over him? Like what doctor

[09:36] would allow you to be rubbing yourself

[09:39] [clears throat] a white shirt? I mean it

[09:40] just make makes zero sense. So was the

[09:43] pastor lying? I mean that's the real

[09:45] question here. Why would he have said

[09:47] that? Where was this blood?

[09:49] >> I will say that I watched his speech at

[09:51] the Charlie Kirk Memorial and it was

[09:53] very heavy on I am America's pastor.

[09:56] Charlie had a lot of wisdom, but he

[09:58] insisted that I had more, that I was his

[10:01] teacher. Charlie really relied on me. It

[10:04] was very, I want to say, navalgazing.

[10:07] Uh, and so him establishing himself in

[10:11] the center of this story, in the center

[10:12] of this narrative, does make me very

[10:16] uncomfortable. That's that's where I'm

[10:18] going to leave it. Am I saying he's a

[10:19] liar? Well, I don't see any proof that

[10:21] his son had blood on him. Neither of the

[10:23] McCoys have responded to explain this. I

[10:26] have a feeling now that Candace Owens is

[10:28] coming back from vacation. Uh that's

[10:30] only going to get worse for them. So

[10:33] again, the we're not presenting anything

[10:36] to fill these holes. We are showing you

[10:38] the holes right now because we we can.

[10:40] >> One other big hole and this is emerging

[10:42] and Ryan's going to be on the show this

[10:43] week, I believe. Simon, can you confirm

[10:45] that? I believe that's the case. But

[10:46] anyway, this emerged um an eyewitness to

[10:49] this shooting filming this in 4K

[10:51] highdefinition video using an iPhone. Uh

[10:54] this is Ryan Simmons who said the FBI

[10:56] then contacted him and basically

[10:59] encouraged him to delete the videos off

[11:01] his phone because he might be suffering

[11:04] from PTSD. And then even had a higherups

[11:06] at the FBI calling him to confirm that

[11:09] he had also deleted the videos from an

[11:11] angle that we haven't yet seen. He then

[11:13] released this video and that's why we

[11:15] can actually now see it. So take a look.

[11:17] And yes, I warning you this is part of

[11:18] it. Take a look.

[11:19] >> Originally when I sent this video into

[11:23] the FIB

[11:25] >> are not counting gang violence. Great.

[11:32] >> So that is the video that he had on his

[11:34] phone

[11:36] >> for tips.

[11:39] >> I'm sorry. Can you keep playing it? And

[11:42] you know, to Charlie and helping out.

[11:45] So, it started off where I got in

[11:48] contact and was talking to someone at

[11:49] the local field office there in my local

[11:52] state and then it jumped up a few

[11:54] levels. Then I was talking to someone on

[11:56] like the national level.

[11:58] That person had called me back and they

[12:00] had said,

[12:02] "Because this was your friend, I think

[12:05] it's best that you erase the video from

[12:07] your phone because it's just going to

[12:08] give you PTSD." and then called it

[12:10] another time to ask if I had erased it.

[12:13] That was the first time that I felt like

[12:15] it was even right to post these videos

[12:18] that was on my other account that was

[12:20] gone and just was removed after 5 years

[12:23] of building it. But so I got a call back

[12:26] and was asked to confirm it was gone.

[12:29] And again, that's when I started

[12:31] sharing, posting, and saving on much

[12:34] many different hard drives in many

[12:35] different places. It's been it's been

[12:37] crazy. It's been rough.

[12:39] >> Yeah. So, the FBI Hey, just want to

[12:41] confirm that you know that that really

[12:43] important video evidence that you have

[12:44] of Charlie Kirk shooting, you you

[12:46] deleted that, right? I know it might

[12:47] cause you some PTSD. You I know you were

[12:49] you know you you were there that day, so

[12:51] you might want to delete that video. And

[12:53] by the way, did you delete it yet? Now,

[12:55] he has heard now from other individuals

[12:58] who were there that they've also had

[13:01] videos removed from their phones without

[13:03] their consent. Um, and you know, we

[13:06] haven't independently been able to

[13:07] verify this, but he's been hearing from

[13:09] others who were there that day who had

[13:10] videos erased, gone. Watch.

[13:14] >> Can someone explain to me how you can

[13:16] literally have stuff on your phone, have

[13:18] a couple posts that you post on TikTok,

[13:21] still have, you know, 20 other videos

[13:23] that you've luckily saved on hard drives

[13:25] that aren't connected to the internet,

[13:27] and then they're all just gone from your

[13:28] phone. They're erased from your phone.

[13:30] Guys, you guys keep asking. We haven't

[13:32] seen anyone from this angle. People

[13:34] aren't talking from this angle. People

[13:36] aren't talking and posting their

[13:37] footage. People's footage are get is

[13:39] getting erased off their phones. People

[13:41] are being silenced. People are being

[13:44] targeted. And it's it's getting crazy,

[13:46] guys. I don't know where this comes from

[13:49] or what's going on, but yesterday I

[13:51] thought it was an overload because of

[13:53] the followers and comments and all the

[13:55] stuff like that. So, I had to turn off

[13:57] my notifications. And then later on when

[13:59] I assessed the situation, I figured out

[14:00] no, my phone turning different colors

[14:02] and feeling like it's lagging when I'm

[14:04] typing and all this weird stuff and

[14:06] watching it type different things that

[14:08] I'm not typing. Just bunch of strange

[14:10] things. I know I sound like a cuckoo

[14:12] when I'm saying this, but woke up today

[14:14] and bunch of my videos are gone. Not

[14:17] from Tik Tok, from my library. So

[14:20] luckily I have one of my hard drives

[14:21] with them and I'm going to getting every

[14:23] video that I can out to you guys. Please

[14:25] save save

[14:28] them, screen record them, spread them,

[14:30] >> do everything.

[14:31] >> Can you imagine?

[14:32] >> Literally,

[14:33] >> we're going to have, by the way, Ryan's

[14:34] going to be on the show on Wednesday uh

[14:36] here to talk about this and what he's

[14:38] been experiencing. Unbelievable.

[14:40] >> Yesterday, I had my kids. I was like,

[14:41] this is I'm doing my backup that I do

[14:43] every quarter. This is where it's kept.

[14:45] If something's happened to mommy, you

[14:47] know, like this is important. You need

[14:48] to own your own data. the cloud. It's

[14:50] not your