Baron Coleman Unpacks Erika Kirk's Alleged Inappropriate Messages with 15-Year-Old Girl and Possible Intelligence Ties

Happy Super Bowl uh slop Sunday to you guys, ladies and gentlemen. Uh welcome in. Welcome in. Welcome in. We're going to have a big show for you tonight. We're gonna have a big show for you tonight. It's not the Seattle Seagulls and the Boston Pilgrims or whoever's playing tonight. No, no, no, no, no. It's even better than that. It's even better than that. Uh so sit back, buckle your safety harness. We've got a lot to cover. A lot to cover. Uh the opening is fun. It's uh it's something that's been stirring around in my head, but I've not yet had the uh the right language to put it all together. And I finally did. I finally something happened this weekend. Uh and I was able finally to put it all together in my head and um and and get it squared away. So, we're going to have that for you. Um the opening is fun. It's it's uh it spells out a lot of things that have been swirling around in all of our heads, but but not located all in one place. And then we have one of the wildest stories um I've ever seen. And it's it's the type of story that if it had happened to an adult male, the guy would have been run out of town on a rail. Uh I have no idea why the adult female has not been run out of town on a rail. So that's that's the second thing. And the third thing, if we have time to get to it, and I think we will, um, a very disturbing post from our friends up the road here in the Middle Tennessee area that run a a uh, well, what's the right word I'm looking for? A um, a media empire. A media empire. It's not e-crew or is it ecru? Acrew. I'm not sure what that is. I don't know what color this is. It's kind of like a bone white. Bone white. So, uh, settle in. We're gonna have a big night for you and uh I hope you are enjoying yourselves and we'll get right to it. I I do have a little bit of a hard cap tonight. My uh my 19-year-old daughter's coming to the house tonight and I want to spend a little time with her before it gets too terribly late. We've got to be somewhere early in the morning and so um I can't be here till midnight. It's uh 5:00 Central Standard Time right now. So I don't think that'll be an issue. Uh it's not mushroom either. I don't think I don't know what color. I don't look I must be color blind. You guys you guys identify colors I don't even see. But let me get into the opening because I think this is um one of the more important openings I've done in terms of again consolidating everything and putting putting meat on the bones of what we've sort of been talking about. So let's get into it. I don't want to waste any more time. Here is ladies and gentlemen your opening statement. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Someone sent me something very important real quickly. Someone sent me something important. It is the Real Baron podcast Super Bowl Sunday live challenge. So don't think I don't know what you guys are anticipating. I've already said, ladies and gentlemen, twice that's worth two points. So don't don't think I don't pay attention to what you guys are doing. I've got my little feelers everywhere. I know what you guys are talking about. All right, here we go. Here's your opening statement. Actually, give me a second. Let me move some stuff around so I can see it. I don't want to read it this way. Y'all think I'm weird. All right, here we go. This is why I need a producer. I say that every day. That's not on the list, though. All right. Sheep dipping. Sheep dipping uh is a practice deeply embedded in the operations of intelligence agencies. Both foreign and domestic agencies use this practice. The term originates from agricultural practices where sheep are dipped in a chemical bath to rid them of parasites. In the intelligence world, it refers to the process of cleansing or disguising an asset's true affiliation by immersing them in a fabricated civilian identity. This technique allows assets to operate undercover without arousing suspicion. It effectively severs visible ties to the intelligence community while maintaining covert connections. Historically, sheep dipping gained prominence during the Cold War era, especially in CIA operations. For instance, during the Vietnam War, the CIA employed sheep dipping for pilots and personnel involved in the Air America program. Air America was a CIA proprietary airline used for covert logistics and combat support in Southeast Asia. Military personnel, often from the US Air Force or United States Army, would be officially discharged from military service and then assume civilian roles as pilots for the airline. The discharge, of course, was a ruse. The individuals remained under government control, but their civilian status provided plausible deniability for the government if their operations were ever exposed. The practice ensured that if captured or compromised, the operatives could not be directly linked back to active duty. This avoided international incidents or congressional scrutiny. In broader intelligence contexts, sheep dipping extends beyond military to civilian transitions. It evolves. It involves assigning assets to legitimate jobs in private sectors. These sectors often often involve journalism, academia, entertainment, and humanitarian organizations. The cover industry masks the espionage activities. For example, an asset might be placed in a media outlet to gather information or influence narratives, all while appearing as a regular employee. This alternate identity is meticulously crafted, often including backstories, employment records, and social networks that withstand basic scrutiny. The goal is to create a legend, a comprehensive cover story. This allows the agent to infiltrate targets, conduct surveillance, or execute missions with often without detection. Sheep dipping requires sophisticated logistics. These include forged or staged documents, financial trails, and sometimes even life events like marriages or career changes. The intelligence community has dedicated units for such tradecraftraft, drawing from historical precedents like Operation Paperclip, where Nazi scientists were sheep dipped into American academia or industry after World War II. In modern times, it's used in counterterrorism, cyber operations, and influence campaigns. Critics argue it blurs ethical lines as it can involve deceiving allies, deceiving the public, or even deceiving close personal friends and family members. The practice isn't limited to the United States. Other nations do employ similar tactics, sometimes even here in the United States against US citizens or even against the US government. Today, with digital footprints, complic complicating covers, sheep dipping has evolved. It now incorporates online personas and social media manipulation. Ultimately, sheep dipping remains a cornerstone of human intelligence as it enables assets to navigate hostile environments while preserving operational security. The intelligence community has a deep affinity for the entertainment industry as a vehicle for sheep dipping. This stems from the entertainment industry's unique attributes. It provides ideal cover for covert operations. The entertainment business offers a world of glamour, mobility, and and ambiguity. It makes it easier to embed assets without raising too many red flags. The intelligence community has historically recruited from or placed operatives in this sector because it allows for seamless integration into global networks. It also allows for integration into irregular lifestyles and access to influential figures. And it does it all under the guise of legitimate creative work. One primary reason it's effective is the entertainment industry's perceived complexity. The entertainment industry also has inherent flexibility and international reach. Most regular people don't understand how the entertainment business truly works. If someone claims to be part of it, most people just take that claim at face value. We regular people might notice if you claim to be an actor and you don't actually get any acting gigs, but we might not be so quick to notice someone who claims to be a screenwriter or casting director. No offense to anyone in those particular lines of work, but nobody knows who you are. And it wouldn't be a we wouldn't be able to tell if you were actually doing the work or if someone was just giving you credit for their work in in order to support your sheep dipped cover story. Entertainers, producers, and crew members travel frequently to exotic locations for shoots, festivals, and tours. The mirrors the uh excuse me, this mirrors the needs of assets who require mobility. An agent sheep dipped as a film scout or an actor can justify his or her presence in a foreign country. They can attend high-profile events and interact with elites without drawing too much suspicion. During the Cold War, the intelligence uh community used Hollywood connections to propagate anti-communist narratives through films. They simultaneously use the industry as a front for operatives. For example, the agency uh collaborated with studios to shape scripts, ensuring positive portrayals that doubled as recruitment tools. Another appeal is the entertainment world's tolerance for eccentric behaviors and fluid identities. Entertainment insiders and performers are trained in the art of deception. They assume roles. They memorize lines. They adopt personas. This aligns perfectly with espionage tradecraft. This revolving door between intel and entertainment allows the intelligence community to draw inspiration from Hollywood while providing cover. Operatives can pose as consultants or liaison. They can influence content to burnish the intelligence community's image and further their goals. The entertainment industry also serves as a propaganda machine by sheep dipping agents into entertainment. Intelligence agencies often subtly steer narratives. Consider just one example. The CIA's entertainment liaison office has supported over 1,000 films and TV shows. They portray the agency heroically. This mutual benefit of access for filmmakers and positive spin for the intelligence community, it creates a symbiotic relationship. The risk to both sides is extremely low. If the connection is ever exposed, it can be dismissed as creative consulting. Finally, the entertainment industry provides deniability and cultural camouflage. In an era of surveillance, a celebrity or producer persona deflects attention as public scrutiny focuses on scandals rather than covert activities. This has led to real world crossovers where Hollywood figures participated in operations which blurred lines even further. Overall, the industry's allure lies in its ability to hide spies in plain sight, leveraging fame and fiction for espionage efficacy. Enter one Erica Lane France. Erica has built a multifaceted career blending pageantry, entertainment, entrepreneurship, philanthropy, and even real estate before stepping into a prominent role as the head of TPUSA following the death of Charlie Kirk. She earned a bachelor's degree in political science and international relations in 2012. She later pursued advanced studies at Liberty University. She obtained a jurist master in American legal studies in 2017. in a doctorate in Christian leadership with a focus on biblical studies. I think she was scheduled to complete that last year. Her early profess her early professional foray was into philanth philanthropy at just 17 years old. She co-founded the 501c3 charity everyday heroes like you with her mother. Everyday heroes like you work to highlight community leaders and heroes. And shortly after it was formed, Erica started Romanian Angels, which did work in a Romanian orphanage. Romanian Angels partnered with the United States Marines. In her early 20s, Erica claims to have worked as a model, an actress, and even a casting director with experiences spanning New York City and even into China. In 2011, she was first runner up in Miss Arizona USA. She won the title in 2012 representing Miss Arizona at MissUSA 2012. And her meager acting credits include a 2012 music video no one has ever seen and a guest appearance on an episode or two of Bravo's Summerhouse in 2019. Around 2013, she appeared either in a documentary or a promotional piece discussing US power grid vulnerabilities and EMP threats. and that's likely tied to her family's defense related businesses. And she also allegedly was filming a movie filmed in or around Fort Wuka, though it's not believed to have ever been released. That's basically the sum total of her acting experience. Entrepreneurally, she launched Bible in 365 in 2016. This was a faith-based program for reading the Bible in a year. It's unknown how many downloads it has or how widely it was distributed. She also launched Proclaimed Streetwear in 2018. This was a Christian apparel line made in the USA. Again, it's unknown if the apparel line has had any real success. In 2019, she started the podcast Midweek Rise Up, a devotional series. The vast majority of the episodes have only a few hundred or even just a few thousand listens. The series looks like it began as a weekly podcast and it was suspended for about 3 months at the end of 2023 through early 2024. It picked back up in February 2024 for a few months to May of 2024 and then suspended for 9 months until it picked back up again in February of 2025. The last episode, believe it or not, was released on September 8th or September 9th, a day or two before Charlie Kirk passed away. In October 2018, Erica worked for a brief period of time as a licensed real estate agent at the Corkran Group in New York City. She met Charlie Kirk the month before um the month before. That was during what was allegedly meant to be a job interview at Turning Point. They were engaged in 2020, married in 2021, and had two children. Following Charlie's death in September 2025, despite Erica not having any real success at anything in the business world, TPUSA's board unanimously appointed her CEO and chairwoman of a business that had nearly hund00 million in assets and was bringing in almost that much every year. It's worth noting at this point her family's background. Her father, Kent France, and her mother, Lorie France, have worked in military and intelligence communities for decades. Now, let's get real. Erica France's official bio reads like the polished LinkedIn profile of a wildly successful person in the entertainment and business world. Pageant queen, model, entrepreneur, real estate agent, podcast host, but peel back the layers and it starts to resemble an a classic intelligence cover. It's a sheep dip in my opinion. Her background is meticulously crafted. It's diverse enough to explain her global travel and elite access, but when you look a little closer, it has massive holes in it. Nothing she has ever done has been particularly successful. She might have been an actress, but she has almost no real acting credits. She might have been a model, but no one can come up with a real portfolio where she's seen modeling. She might have run some nonprofits, but the 990s and federal filings show they were barely subsisting and even stopped operating. She might have been a podcast host, but she didn't have any real volume of views or listens. She might have started a clothing brand, but almost nobody has seen anyone actually wearing the clothes. She might have been a licensed real estate agent, but she got her license after she met Charlie Kirk and left the job shortly thereafter with almost no transactions recorded in her name. What she does have is family ties to defense and intelligent contractors. She has appearances in interviews and either films or commercials with national security professionals. She has almost no other appreciable means that we can tell of supporting herself. This is not the traditional trajectory that lands a person at the helm of an organization as massive as TPUSA. With the history and her weird affect since Charlie's passing, it's not hard to wonder if she's been sheep dipped. In other words, was Erica France im immersed into civilian roles to provide cover and mask deeper affiliations with the intelligence community? Her early career is textbook sheep dipping fodder. At 17, founding a nonprofit focusing on kids in Romania. It sounds innocuous, but it's unusual. But it is perfect for building a humanitarian cover that justifies travel and networking. Nonprofits historically have been a favorite of the intelligence communities. Think about it. A nonprofit does not have to report the donations where they came from. The money could come from literally anywhere and nobody would know. Then you have her history in pageantss. After a life of having never competed in pageantss, she takes up the MissUSA pageantss in college, competes four times in two states, and finally wins Miss Arizona USA in 2012. And beauty queens have long been recruited for these glamour ops. They have access to global events. They mingle with dignitaries. And like it or not, and this is just reality, beautiful women have access to places other people can't go. Intelligence communities have used models for honey traps in intelligence gathering. Erica's win coincides with her pivot to the entertainment industry. And thinking speaking of her claims of working in the entertainment industry, despite all evidence to the contrary, these are these look like the ultimate sheep dip pool. She jets to New York City. She jets to China, allegedly working as a model, an actress, a casting director. And then her transition from light work in the entertainment industry to her purported faith-based ventures like Bible in 365 and the midweek RiseUp podcast and proclaimed street wear. These give her credit in conservative circles. Even if they were mostly small and didn't have any real influence, people see it on their face and give it credibility. The they are lines on her resume and they are still there. These are ideal for being able to embed herself in con in conservative influence operations. And her very brief and mostly unmemorable stint in real estate at one of the largest and most influential real estate groups in New York City gave her access to a network of wealthy and elite people and also access to multi-million dollar properties. Plus, real estate agents are mobile. The intelligence community loves the real estate business. It's low profile, has almost zero startup cost, and potentially has a very high intelligence yield. And then the pivot to TPUSA. That's where her sheep dip story gets really interesting to me. She supposedly applied to work at TPUSA in the summer of 2018. This was the exact time she was studying to take her New York real estate license and launch her lucrative real estate career in New York. It's really weird to me why she was bothering to interview with what was at the time a pretty small nonprofit based in Phoenix while she was studying for the New York Real Estate Exam at the exact same time. It's never really been explained. Regardless, she met Charlie Kirk in September 2018 at this supposed job interview that turned romantic. They allegedly hit it off. They were engaged in 2020, married in 2021, two kids, boom boom, rapid succession, 2022 and 2024. And then in September 2025, Charlie is killed. Erica, the weirdly smiling and laughing but supposedly also grieving widow, is unanimously installed as the CEO. Days later, there's no board fight. There's no real discussion. She's suddenly steering an organization worth hundreds of millions of dollars, an organization that's widely considered one of the most influential political organizations in America. If you stripped all the names and just look at the facts, the narrative itself screams sheep dipping. Almost nobody would look at the raw facts that I just outlined without any names attached, without any names of individuals or organizations attached to it and conclude this is anything but a wildly successful intelligence operation. A kid raised by defense and intelligence industry parents, sheep dipped into the entertainment industry, sheep dipped into nonprofits, sheep dipped into real estate, and then married into a political front. Does this make TPUSA or at least TPUSA 2.0 headed by Erica Kirk an intelligence operation? Well, let's look at what's become of TPUSA after Charlie passed. Just look at the messaging. It pushes narratives aligned with the deep state agenda. anti-China, anti-Islam, pro-Israel, pro-war. In my opinion, Charlie's death was the culmination of her sheep dipping. It placed what appears to be an intelligence community asset at the very top of American conservative politics, at least in my opinion. Now, critics can dismiss all of this. They can say it's one wild series of strange coincidences, a comedy of errors. But in my opinion, patterns don't lie. The varied careers mask the handlers. The international stints build a backstory. The faith angle solidified her cover. The only question in my mind if she is in fact sheep dipped is by whom. Is this American intelligence or is this foreign intelligence or something more sinister perhaps like human or arms trafficking? Maybe moneyaundering or some hybrid combination of any of those. Regardless, her her rise to me feels engineered. Nothing about it feels organic, and nothing since the day Charlie Kirk passed away feels to me to be remotely normal. Sheep dipping thrives on doubt. The cover has to be relatable enough that questioning it makes you look paranoid. But connect the dots. Erica's path to the head of TPUSA to me looks operational. To know for sure, we need to watch her moves. If TPUSA amps up domestic SCOPS or foreign policy pushes, perhaps we'll know for sure. And that is the opening statement today. I hope you enjoyed it as much as I did. That to me was um one giant opinion blanketed and allegedly covered in opinion and allegedly in allegations allegedly opinionated. None of that is uh stated as fact. Actually, a lot of that stated as fact because I looked it up. The history is fact. It's just whether or not it's But I I had trouble putting my hands on on how I how I wanted to word that. And I got the idea late last week that it belongs in the context of sheep dipping. Sheep dipping. And so that's that was the best way to explain it. Um guys, I've got a very bizarre story. It's so bizarre. I was not going to go with it. I wasn't going to talk about it at all, but I can't not play it. The reason is because it is so bizarre. It is so disturbing. Here's why I wasn't going to play it. And if you look at the title, you know what I'm talking about. The allegedly creepy alleged relationship with alleged 15year-old. This is Erica France we're talking about back when she was 25, 26 years old, 10 years ago, 11 years ago. And I wasn't going to go forward with it. And I decided to take tonight's show a completely different direction. And then today, as I was thinking about it, I thought, you know what? What if we went back to when Charlie Kirk was 25 years old? What if we went back to 11 years ago or what was that six years ago and we find out that Charlie Kirk had this exact same text message relationship with a 15-year-old? What would we do? Would we talk about it? And I think the answer to that is yes. Not because this doesn't happen in America. It does. It's unfortunate, but it does. But we would talk about it because the the consequences of of heading up an organization the size of TPUSA while simultaneously having this past documented past is highly problematic. It opens you to blackmail. It opens you to being used in ways perhaps even you don't want to. So I am going to play it. This is a video from uh NISc social ns.ocial on YouTube. If you want to watch the whole thing, please do. I'm only going to play clips of it. I have several clips, but they're they're like range 15 to 20 seconds long each. The reason is because the rest of it is her commentary or background and I want to give my own commentary and background and some of it may mirror hers and some of it may be slightly different. But I do want to I do want to give that um give that plug to her because if you uh are interested in seeing more of it, she does a great job. She really does do a good job. But I I want to open with this image. This is the opening image that she talks about. That's Erica France, I believe, in the middle or on the right. I can't tell which. They both have a bad frost and frankly so does the man on the left. Is that a man? The whole the whole picture's weird, but they're eating pizza. And as we've learned in the Podesta emails, as we learned in the Einstein emails, when you're talking about pizza, you're not always talking about pizza. But I think that's her in the middle. I think that's her in the middle. But but I want to let her introduce the 15-year-old girl that 25-year-old Erica France is striking up a relationship with. So here is how she introduces it. >> And oddly enough, 15 days before she posted this picture, she began an interesting relationship with a 15-year-old girl named Jillian. I spent hours digging into this and even heard from Jillian herself. And I think you guys are going to want to hear this. >> I agree. you're gonna want to hear this, but I wanted to allow her to to give the opening. I'm going to skip the commercial she does and uh and launch right into some of the content here. So, this is the first of how they met, how the 25-year-old Erica Kirk strikes up this relationship with a 15-year-old in Michigan. Now, there's a fact that comes out in here that I was not aware of. I knew that Erica Kirk had lived in Puerto Rico. I knew that Erica Kirk had lived in China. I think there was a Croatian element at one point. I know she'd lived in New York. I know she'd lived in Cincinnati. I knew she'd lived in uh Scottdale. I was unaware that she had ever lived in Michigan. That was something part of her bio that had gotten past me. But apparently when she was 25 years old, she was dating a basketball player in Michigan and I guess had moved there or at least was there quite a lot to strike up this relationship with a at the time 15year-old. this woman. Back in 2013, Erica was 25 years old and she was in a relationship with a basketball player named Joshua Harelson. So, at the time, he was living in Michigan and Erica moved out there to be with him. On the evening of September 15th, 2013, Joshua Harson and Erica met a 15-year-old girl named Jillian Falcon. And I know this because Julian tweeted about it. At 3:53 p.m., Julian tweeted that she was out for sushi with her friend. And 2 hours later, she tweeted, "Just met Miss Arizona and Josh Harelson. Heart eyes emoji." Now, >> so that's the beginning of it. That's the beginning of their relationship. What we don't know is the circumstances that caused them to meet. And as uh the the host here says, and she does a great job of it, but the host says, apparently there was some connection between where Erica was living and I'm getting a lot of people saying slow it down. So, I'm going to slow it down. I I had it on one and a half because there are several clips, but I'll just play normal speed. I don't care. Apparently, there was some connection between a friend and an a house that was being leased and all that, but I don't know if that was how they met or not. But somehow they meet. And if you're a 25-year-old and you meet a 15-year-old, it should end there. Hey, enjoyed eating hot dogs and pizza with you or enjoyed eating chicken wings with you or enjoyed eating Chinese food with you. And that should be the end of the conversation. But in this case, it wasn't. It it it takes a it takes a very weird turn here. Um, and so I will let her pick back up and tell you just how weird this turn gets. >> Before I share the information that I found, I need to make sure that I say this. Do not bother Jillian. Do not message her. Do not leave comments on her social media. Leave her alone. I'm not doing this video to cause any trouble for Jillian. So, please do not reach out to her. She's a grown woman now, but at the time she was 15 when she met Erica. And the reason that I'm doing this video is because in my opinion, Erica's behavior was predatory and it needs to be exposed. Jillian was just a child at the time. She's a teenage girl. Please don't bother her. Okay? >> Leave her alone. >> Okay? So, I agree with this, by the way, and and this is something I say a lot when we cover things on this program. Let let people do research in the background, but try to avoid the bombardment of these people. Let try to avoid contacting people. Try to avoid reaching out to them. Please don't ever go to someone's house. Don't ever knock on their door. Don't ever ring their doorbell. Don't ever confront them in public. Don't follow their cars. Don't mail stuff to their house. This is not the way to conduct a crowdsourced investigation. The crowd sourced investigation is best done when we are all looking at publicly available information. There's plenty of publicly available information. Now, I preface that by saying she did talk to this person. But here's the difference. Here's the key distinction that people often miss. Once the story breaks, you you can't contact that person anymore. It's a key distinction. She contacted her after the information was discovered, but before the before the story broke. Once the story breaks, it's it's too late to contact the person. So, that's that's critical to me and it's something that I preach on this program often. You know, we talk about TPUSA employees. Don't contact them. Don't contact them. Now, if you uncover something weird on Twitter or Facebook and no one else has covered it and you want to reach out to that person and say, "Hey, I'm looking at this. Do you want to comment on this because I think I'm going to go forward with it?" That's different. Once it's broken into the public, it's too late. It's just too late at that point to to start contacting the person because I use the rule of 10,000. If you're contacting that person, 9,999 other people are contacting that person. And that's not appropriate. That's not how we do it. Yes, I stopped this on purpose. This was the famous Perez Hilton, leave Britney alone. Uh, all right. So, here are the beginnings of the exchanges as described by this person in reviewing the public record. These are the first real exchanges after they meet. >> Just over a week later, on October 9th, 2013, Jillian tweets, quote, "Next to Miss Arizona at Bar Louie." Jillian then tweeted this at Erica France at Cheyennechand. Aw, you're so sweet. Cheyenne is Jillian's friend. I believe they were classmates at the time, so they're the same age, just in case you're wondering. Now, two days later, Jillian tweeted at Erica Fron dying because you're so pretty. Someone, presumably Erica, replied, but then deleted the tweet. >> Notice the dates. Notice the dates. This was October of 2013. Watch how long this goes on and watch how it develops over time that this is so dis what these these exchanges are so disturbing particularly in light of the fact of how many of these replies are hidden or deleted. It is so disturbing to me. This is one of the more disturbing stories I've had to cover since you and I have been together. But this is October of 2013. These are some of their very first discussions together. Some of their very first discussions together. >> And Jillian replied, "Erica France, we miss you too on." >> So go back to that. What do you think the reply was by Erica Kirk right here, Erica France at the time. If she says, "Dying because you're so pretty." And then there's a deleted post and she says, "We miss you, too." I'm guessing she's saying, "We miss you." Or, "I miss you." Or, "I miss you guys. My question is, why is someone 25 years old saying that to a 15-year-old? Oh, and just wait, it gets so much worse. >> Miss you, too. On October 26th, 2013, Jillian tweeted at Erica France, "How you enjoying the Michigan weather?" Erica replied, however, the reply is not visible because the account is now private. And Jillian replied at Erica France, "Ah, lucky you. Enjoy it while." On November 7th, 2013, Erica tweeted something that I can't see because her account is private, but Julian replied saying, "Erica France, I fell in love with the world in you." >> I'm assuming that's some sort of famous quote that I'm not familiar with. I fell in the I fell in love with the world in you. I think I looked that up at one point yesterday. Let me look here. I fell in love with the world in you. I think I looked it up. Uh Noah and the whale. I fell in love with the world in you. So, it's a song lyric. But again, if I'm 25, and you got to keep this in the same sex, even not same sex, but I mean, keep it in the same sex realm. If I'm 25 and I tweet something out and some 15-year-old that I've been communicating with writes me back and says, "I fell in love with the world in you." I have to stop communicating with that person entirely. Something has gone terribly arry. Terribly arry. Something's broken in that societal exchange. Just trust me, it gets way worse. If you've not seen the story, it gets way. >> She also tweeted, "Don't care if it's Wednesday or not. She'll always be my woman crush. Can I be you at Erica France?" Again, let's say I've got a picture of myself uh scantily clad. You'll never catch that on social media because that's not the type of stuff I post. Not that anyone would want to see it anyway. But let's say I'm sitting there with a shirt off and you know, whatever. and some 15-year-old gets a hold of that picture and tweets that back to me and calls me the crush. At that point, I might even consider blocking that person because I think, nope, I don't want anyone to get the wrong impression of anything that's going on here. I am a grown adult, 7 years, the age of majority. This person won't be able to buy a cigarette for three or four years. This is a huge life difference. Now, we got to jump forward a little bit here because it starts to spice up a little bit. There's a series of weird texts back and forth and then we start getting into the realm of the wild and I don't want to say criminal yet. On November 18th, 2013, Jillian tweeted, "Still waiting for that lunch date. Kissing face emoji." >> Why is Erica deleting the post? Allegedly, this is coming back from Erica, I would guess, because it was tweeted at Erica. This is the top line up here. It was tweeted at Erica. Somebody responded to it and she and and she says, "That's perfect." Well, that's weird. What What was said in this? Now, I I'm leaving open the possibility that it's something Cheyenne Chandi said. Chand D. I'm I'm I'm leaving open that possibility. But the basketball, you know, Erica France was a basketball player. The fact that it was originally tweeted to Erica France makes me think that this is something Erica said that was deleted. Apparently they've got a lunch date scheduled. >> Erica France. There was a reply on this tweet that was deleted. Then Jillian says Cheyenne Chand Erica France. That's perfect. On November 20th, 2013, Jillian tweeted, "Why am I just finding out it's your birthday? I hope you had a great one at Erica France. Erica responded to this tweet. However, we can't see the response. Then Jillian tweeted at Erica France. That's great. Kissy face emoji. On December 18th, 2013, Jillian tweeted, "I want to just curl up in a ball and cry because of how perfect Erica France is." Heart eyes emoji. And look at the response. Now, we can't see this. It hasn't been deleted. To Erica's credit, it's not been deleted, but it is private. So only Erica's approved followers can see it. And I I believe this is a dormant account. I'm not sure about that. But then she says, "You too, love." So something something there was some response about curling up in a ball and crying because of how perfect Erica is. That that drew her a response out of her. And then the reply to the response was, "You too, love." Again, nothing overtly criminal. Nothing too wild at this point. Just just sit sit tight. You're not going to need your whole chair in a minute. You're just going to need the front edge of it. >> Erica's response is private. And then Jillian responds, "You too, love." On January 6th, Erica made a post that is currently private. And Jillian responded at Erica France, "Gorgeous love. Heart eyes emoji, kissy face emoji." On January 22nd, 2014, Jillian tweeted a bunch of messages that I believe were her gushing over Erica. Then at 10:30 p.m., so pretty late at night, she tweets at Erica France is the best. >> Again, go through the order there of these. This is all January 22nd, 2014. Ch January 22nd, 2014. This is months after they've been acquainted. There's a whole series of here, a series of messages. >> We were heard gushing over Erica. Then at 10 >> and then that night, Erica Fran is the best leading me, this host, and probably many others to believe that's potentially a response to Erica Kirk being present with her. Thank you for being here when I need to most. You're beautiful. You're so perfect. Perfection. Erica Kirk. Erica France is the best. Uh that leads me to believe there was some sort of either physical presence or maybe a telephone presence or something else. But it somehow gets disastrously worse. >> She tweets Erica France is the best. The next morning she tweets at Erica France. One day I am going to wake up, roll over on my side and kiss the love of my life good morning. At that point, it is indisputable the relationship has taken a weird turn and a 25year-old should read this and immediately leave. Now, up until this point that you could you could have some image in your mind where this is just normal. This is how girls talk. I have girls. I have teenage girls. I have a 19-year-old and a 16-year-old girl. I know that they discuss, you know, talk like this. I know that they say I love you and you're so beautiful and all that, but I don't believe they've ever gushed all night and then said, "Thank you for being here when I needed you the most." And then at 10:30 at night and then at 8:00 the next morning indicate that perhaps they wanted the night to continue and to be able to roll over and kiss you in the morning. I will say this, if my 16-year-old girl was having this type of conversation with a 25-year-old woman, I would be having a conversation also with that 25-year-old woman, and it probably wouldn't go the way she wanted it to. It probably would go very, very poorly. Oh, you think that's the smoking gun? STAND BY. HOLD, PLEASE. It gets infinitely worse, amigos. Infinitely worse. Here is a post that we're unable to see because it's um probably from Erica's account and only her friends can see it. This woman says, "Gorgeous as always." This is in just a moment you're going to get the most overtly wild text yet. Like everything to this point has some sort of a reasonable explanation. Even how hard it is to believe, you could at least sort of make some kind of comment at least on an isolated basis. We leave that realm now. >> 2014, Jillian replied to one of Erica's tweets by saying Erica France feet gorgeous as always. A few hours later, she then tweeted, "Why did Erica France feet just send me this laughing emojis?" And there is a photo which says, "This Valentine's Day, I am going to touch your butt." That is Erica allegedly sent that to Jill Falconee at 15 years old. This is the day before Valentine's Day. She wants to touch her butt. Again, on an isolated basis, perhaps you could say, "Oh, she's just joking." But when you take it in context, it's hard to believe that she's just joking. In my opinion, we're gonna leave the realm of just joking here entirely in moments and we will forever not be able to say she's just joking. I will let Miss Nissy Social line this one up. >> 14. So Erica says, "Let me call you. Hold on, sweetheart. Give me a sex." Wow. And then Jillian says, "Okay." And puts laughing emojis. Erica then says, "Seek. Sex, too, but not from you. Lol." Holy laughing emoji. You always make me laugh. I don't bat for the other team just yet. >> Not yet. Not yet. I might bat for the other team in the future, but not yet. Now, I will say that the X and C are right next to each other on the keyboard if you're on an a standard American keyboard. Now, you Swedeners, you Balkans, I don't know what kind of keyboard you guys use down under, but you people in other countries may not quite understand that reality, but our X and C on a standard American keyboard, awaren see her right next to each other. Now, that could raise the possibility that she made a mistake. I I am curious if that's a typo or if this is the type of behavior that adults use to condition. I'm not going to use the GR room word, but is this the type of conversation? Again, this wasn't public. This was a text message between Erica France, allegedly between Erica France and Jill Falconee. I've not verified the phone number and all that. I'm just believing what's being said here, but taking it at face value, this is a text message between a woman in her mid20s and a 15-year-old. Let me call you. Hold on, sweetheart. Give me a sex. Sex, too, but not from you. I don't bat for the other team just yet. This seems to me like conditioning. We will use that instead of the word that rhymes with flooming. Conditioning. This seems to me to be strong evidence of conditioning behavior. Unless you think this is the bulk of it. Oh, contrario amigos. It gets so much worse. >> 13th, 2014, Jillian shared another screenshot of her text messages with Erica. Erica says, "I forgot to tell you, hydrate tonight. No alcohol and don't eat a lot of salty foods. You don't want to look bloated." >> Now, this is something Miss Nissy Social does not address, but what are they doing the next day? that Erica doesn't want the 15-year-old to look bloated. That's never explained in this video. If it is, I missed it. I've watched this video three times now. That's never explained in the video. What is it that they have planned tomorrow that you don't want to look bloated? You don't want her to drink alcohol. You don't want her to eat a lot of salty foods. You don't want her to look bloated. No alcohol? Really, Erica? >> Jillian then responds, "Thank you." Erica says, "No alcohol. Really, Erica? Age recognition, you waffle. Apparently, I haven't had my coffee yet. >> It's 12:20 p.m. It's 12:20 p.m. What are they doing?" 12:20 p.m. and she hasn't had her coffee yet. and she's so confused that she's telling her not to drink alcohol. Is the fact that you have to pick her up cuz she can't drive. Does that not you know whatever it is you guys are doing? >> What the hell, Erica? Laughing emoji. Well, on that bite dot dot dot note. Damn. >> That's another mistake I don't think was an accident. Well, on that bite, I don't think it was an accident. Now, maybe, you know, the the B and N are close to each other. The I and the O are close to each other on the cordy keyboard. It's possible. But to me, that's that's just dropping little little things in there, little seeds that are being planted all along the way. I want to touch your butt. Give me a sex. I don't bet for the other team just yet on that bite. This all seems to me this all seems to me like conditioning. Like conditioning. And then she blames Siri. >> You Siri, come on. # the struggle. What are you trying to say? Laughing emoji. Spit it out, you waffle. >> Now she's already corrected herself. So if the 15-year-old is saying, "What are you trying to say? Spit it out." She's wanting She's wanting more. She's wanting to hear more. Go on, spell it out for me. Say what? I know what you're trying to say. You know what you're trying to say. Just say it. >> How on earth could you? >> Now, let me fast forward to the next series here. Back to Jillian. On the morning of March 26th, 2014, Jillian tweeted, "I just want to be somebody's woman crush Wednesday. Is that too much to ask?" That evening, she then tweets, "Thank you, Erica France, for making my whole week." And she sh >> Do you see what's on the wall on the screen? Are you looking at it? >> There's this photo and the photo is of a gnome and it says, "I want to be inside your lady garden." You know what I'm saying? >> The indication here is that Erica France sent this to her. You just made my week, Erica. I want to be inside your lady garden. Know what I'm saying? Now, I'm only 46. I've only had eight children. I'm familiar with the lady garden. I'm I know what they're called. I know what they are and I know what it means to be inside one. This is October, November, December, January, February, March, 6 months after they met. There's a clear escalation going on here. There's a very clear escalation taking place. We've gone out of the realm of oops, I didn't mean to say that. Haha, so silly. I so apologize for for saying that. Oh, I didn't. Stupid Siri. We've left that realm. And Jill says, "Thank you for making my whole week." And then post it. In other words, suggesting Erica at 25, 26 years old sent this to her, 6 months after they met. But it gets even weirder and darker here. I'm going to show you where the we kick it up a notch on the weirdness darkness scale here, >> just in case you're wondering. Now, on April 3rd, 2014, Jillian tweeted this picture and said, "I miss this goon." >> So, this is Jillian with a boy looking I mean, that's close. You know, I wouldn't take that picture with with some rando that that indicates some sort of affection that this Jillian girl has for this young man. This is a week afterwards. I miss this goon. Watch Erica's response. A few minutes later, she tweeted, "Did Erica just text me # no new friends? Oh my god, I can't." >> That is to me the signal of what's going on here. This is This is the This is the realm. This is the you can't come back from this one because it was a few minutes later that she tweeted it. Meaning she's monitoring what this girl's doing online. She's getting notifications. She's aware of what's happening. A week before she said, "I want to be inside your lady garden. Know what I'm saying?" Then she posts a picture of a boy. I miss this boy. And Erica says, "No new friends." This is classic conditioning behavior. Classic conditioning from Miss France. Now, I don't I can't say that's what she was doing, but it appears that was what she's doing. She is bombing her with affection. She's bombing her with attention. She's bombing her with how pretty she is. She's bombing her with how gorgeous she is. It that that part even gets weirder here in just a minute. And then she says, "No more of that. No new people. Only me. Only me." Days later on April 5th, 2014, Jillian posted this tweet getting this in the mail from Erica Fronie. And in the photo is a red box of chocolate covered strawberries and other chocolate desserts. >> She got that in the mail the next day or two days later. So the April 3rd was this no new friends. I'm being territorial. And then she sends a gift I've never I mean you only send to your boyfriend, girlfriend or wife or husband. This is not something you send a 15-year-old, particularly with a card that says the following. Happy sweet 16, beautiful girl. Keep strong in faith and know that you're loved. But most of all, never forget you are perfect and amazing just the way you are. I am so proud of you. Today is the first day of another 365 day around journey around the sun. Enjoy the trip, boo. Love you. E I just again, if you only had this one gift, if you only had this one card, if you just said, "Hey, here's a girl that she found that she was troubled and she just wanted to make her feel good." Okay, maybe. But you sent this to someone you said you wanted to touch her butt and be inside her lady garden. Someone you told can't have any new friends. It goes on. This is Listen to her description of this young girl. This girl is now 16 years old. Just turned 16. Erica is 25, 26 years old. 10 years old. On June 7th, 2014, Jillian shared this tweet. This has to be the most heartfelt compliment I've ever gotten. And she attached a screenshot of her conversation with Erica. So Jillian says, "Thank you." Erica says, "You have the most stunning features." Jillian says, "Best compliment ever." Erica says, "Your eyes, your lips, your skin, you're absolutely beautiful." My friends, I just don't have an innocent explanation for that text. That private text from a grown adult to a minor child. Your eyes, your lips, your skin. That's conditioning. The way I look at it, that's conditioning. And I'll say this, I don't know that that level of conditioning is innate. I don't think Erica France at 26 years old just came up with this on her own. In other words, it makes more sense to me that this type of interaction with a minor is something she learned. It makes more sense to me. Am I accusing someone of having done this to Erica? Not necessarily. Maybe. I don't have evidence of it. But I'm looking at these messages over the course of six or now seven months. or more. October to November, December, January, February, March, April, May, June, eight months. I'm looking at these series of messages escalating over eight months. And again, I ask you, if Charlie Kirk at 25 or 26 years old, having led TPUSA for seven or eight years, had sent these messages to a 15 or 16 year old, would he have survived? Would he have been able to remain the head of TPUSA? Would he have been forced to step down? I think the answer is yes. I think the answer is yes. My gut instinct is if a 26-y old man was the CEO of a company, a nonprofit, a political company, commenting, complimenting the eyes, lips, and skin of a minor child having said, "I want to be inside your lady garden. I want to touch your butt. I'm going to touch your butt. I think it would have been the end of them. A lot of a lot of people have disappeared from public life for less than this. Or similar to this. A lot of people have just disappeared from public life for similar things to this. A lot of people have been investigated by law enforcement agencies for similar messages to this. Two more clips. So Jillian posted this photo of the >> So this is Jillian on a family vac I believe a family vacation in Puerto Rico. She posts this photo. It is a pretty picture. I'm not going to lie. This is beautiful. I mean this is the type of scene that we all wish we could see. Some of us are lucky enough in life to travel to places like this and be able to see this. Some of us only see pictures like this on other people's social media. But now, Miss Erica Kirk, but she was Erica France at the time, as you can see from the tag here, has this exchange >> beach. And Erica says, "Unreal gorgeous." And then Jillian respond. >> So unreal gorgeous could mean unreal. That scene is gorgeous. It could also mean unreal, gorgeous, meaning unreal Jill. You're unreal Jill, who I'm nicknaming gorgeous. It could mean neither. And we'll get a hint in a second. >> This is by far my favorite picture I took. My mom wants to get it blown up at Erica France. Erica responds, "I could see why, boo." >> Now, maybe girls call each other boo. I was always under the impression that you called people boo when you were in love with them or if they were a boyfriend or a girlfriend or a spouse. But maybe I'm naive and that's just how grown women talk to 16-year-olds. But it gets worse. Jillian responds, "So perfect at Erica Fronty." Erica then responds, "Dot dot dot, yes, I know you are." >> The dot dot dot is key. You guys all KNOW WHAT THE DOT DOT DOT MEANS. There's not a person in the audience who doesn't know what the dot dot dot means. So perfect. Dot dot dot. That is a flirty gesture. That is the equivalent of a woman biting her lip and staring into your eyes. Dot dot dot. That's what the dot dot dot means in my opinion. Yes, I know you are so perfect. one of the >> Okay. So, where we go next is this girl's explanation of her experience. So, we have the public evidence. We've seen what's out there. We have the text messages this girl provided. We have the those were private, were not able to be seen. We have the public uh the private text messages. We have the public exchanges on social media. Most of the public exchanges on social media. Some of them were deleted. Some of them were um were hidden because of their categorization on social media. But we have now an explanation from the girl herself. Because there was some concern from people who viewed this that said, "Oh my gosh, she was being trafficked. She was in Puerto Rico. She was right there next to Einstein Island down there. No, no, no, no. She She made it clear that was a family trip. She wasn't being trafficked. She was safe the whole time she was down there. And then she goes on to describe that at the time she didn't think there was really much to this, which is frankly even more disturbing because it means that we from the outside could look at these messages and all draw what I think is a pretty reasonable conclusion. We can all come to a pretty reasonable opinion that this is wild. This has no place in public life. This has no place in society. Grown adults cannot talk to 15 and 16 year olds this way. Period. End of story. It's not appropriate. It has to stop. The people who do this need to be removed from polite society. They need to not be the heads of public organizations. But to be fair, I want you guys to hear the girls side of it because I think it would be totally inappropriate for me to play all that and then not hear from her when we know what she says about it. Here's what she says about it. >> And I just want to say for the record that Jillian says that she wasn't trafficked. There was people online who were concerned because Jillian was in Puerto Rico and Puerto Rico was very close to Epstein Island. So, people are wondering, is there something that was happening there? Jillian says that she wasn't trafficked. Okay. Jillian said that she looked up to Erica because she was so beautiful. You know, she was Miss Arizona. She was giving her all of this attention and Erica felt like a big sister. And these compliments that Erica was giving her felt very validating and it boosted her self-esteem. >> That is the key. It was validating. It boosted her self-esteem. Someone conditioning a minor would know that that is going to be the result of that type of language. Someone trying to condition a minor. Now, I'm not saying that's what she was doing, but I'm saying the evidence can can lead to that reasonable opinion. It's not an unreasonable opinion to come to. And I think it's not only is it reasonable, it's a common response when you're reading this in this context. When you look at the sum total of this 6, seven, 8month exchange between these two, you watch it escalate. You watch it start with, "Oh, you're so pretty. No, you're so pretty. Oh, you're so pretty. No, you're so pretty." That's pretty normal teenage talk. Not very normal between a 25-year-old and a teenager, but whatever. I will I will add one thing to it after we get to the end of it. I'll add one piece of commentary to why she may be taking this approach. >> And Jillian hasn't spoken to her in over 10 years. She hasn't really thought about it all that much. Like it's out of sight, out of mind. So she never looked back at this whole friendship she had with Erica as being weird or inappropriate. She never saw it that way. But >> So she never saw it that way. She never saw it as weird or inappropriate. Here, let let me tell you why that might be. Oh goodness. There we go. Sorry, didn't mean to do that. Uh, a couple of things. One, she might truly have come to the conclusion that there was nothing weird or inappropriate about it. Two, she might be terrified. She might be scared to death. She might wish this had never been discovered. It hadn't been discovered for 10 years because frankly most people never heard of Erica Kirk. Three, that might be why they stopped talking because at the time she didn't get the hint. Erica may have, and this is an opinion, this is not fact. I'm not saying this is what she was doing, but she may have been escalating it, pushing, pushing, pushing, pushing. And when the young girl never gave in, she moved on. That to me is a reasonable conclusion of what might have happened. I think it's one of those three things. I can't think of a fourth one where I can come to the conclusion that that this is somehow normal conversation between an adult and a teenager. I have trouble coming to that conclusion. I'm not telling you guys what to conclude. I'm not telling you to not come to that conclusion. I'm not telling you to believe something completely and entirely different about it. But we know for a fact, let's just put this in the context of the big news of the last couple of weeks with all the emails and files that have been released. We know for a fact that there are people, monsters in this world who prey on minors. We know that. We know that for a fact. We know, for example, that they have women who recruit to those groups. We've learned that. We've heard that as a fact. We've heard from some of the recruiters who've admitted, "Yeah, that's what we were doing." Does that mean without a doubt that Erica France was 100% trying to recruit somebody to some sort of criminal organization? No. But it doesn't mean it's not true. It gets back to the old saying, how I look at a lot of this stuff. I'm not saying TPUSA is some sort of criminal organization. But if it was a criminal organization, it would look precisely how it's structured today. They would be doing the things they're doing today. I'm not saying she's not a grieving widow. But if she wasn't a grieving widow, she would be doing precisely what she's doing today. I'll say this, Gain Maxwell sitting in prison for kind of doing this kind of stuff conditioning minors to join in with adults. Kind of wild. Kind of wild. Speaking of wild, speaking of wild, I want to transition ever so slightly here. I want to play the I referenced in the opening Erica's podcast, The Midweek Rise Up. I'm going to play it on mute because it's got a bed of music and I don't know if it's copyrighted and I don't want this whole podcast getting taken down on a copyright strike because they don't like what I'm saying about them and they're looking for any excuse to be able to pull this down. So, I'm going to play on mute and the words are written on the screen. So, I'll just read it as it goes. Let me speed the speed it at the right speed where I feel like I can do it in the right time. I'm going to play a couple of minutes of Erica Kirk's last podcast. It was put up on YouTube on September 9th. This is the day before the Big Bang in Oram, Utah. And I want you to listen to what it seems to me. She's conditioning more conditioning. I want you to see if you see what I see. This is about a minute into it. I got the intro out of the way. I'm getting right to the heart of it. We're just going to do a couple of minutes of it. This is her saying that she's heard an old expression. She doesn't know who to attribute it to. And it says, "Preach the gospel at all times. Use words if necessary." And now there's a debate about who said that and whether it's been overused. But there's still wisdom in that idea because the people around you, your children, your co-workers, your neighbors, even your critics are watching. Something far more powerful. I think I sped it up, not slowed it down. Yeah. Something far more powerful than your declarations. They're watching your reactions. They're watching how you respond when things don't go your way. Did something not go her way the following day? Did something Did Did Erica Kirk experience something the day after this was put up where things didn't go her way and where people would be watching her reactions, watching how she responds? how you treat people who can't give anything back to you and how you navigate tension, how you navigate forgiveness of offenses. Was there any forgiveness of offenses that Erica Kirk fi famously gave that occurred the day after this was posted? You remember when she took to the stage of the memorial and said that young man who did this, I forgive him. Basically convicting the guy. Basically saying he did it. Why would she be talking about this? This is weird. And carry burdens that no one else sees. What burdens was she forced to carry? And the truth is your life is always preaching something. The only question is what story is it telling? You know, my husband is on college campuses. This is interesting because she's setting up the tension. She's setting up why it is what he did was so dangerous getting screamed at by college kids. I've never seen anyone really scream at him much. I mean, I've seen a couple clips here and there, but this isn't like all day, every day he was screaming, getting screamed at. As he's trying to share with them the truth, and he is so calm. Would I be calm? Ooh. Ooh. Is she going to be calm if we put her through the type of tests that Charlie faced? Would she be calm? No, I wouldn't. She's telling you right now, stop. She's showing you why she gets the crazy face. She wouldn't be calm. I barely go to those only because I don't trust myself. Now she's giving an explanation for why she wasn't there. I don't go to those because I can't be calm. I don't trust myself. No, not climbing over the table and like attacking someone in the crowd because I'm very protective of my husband. Huh? What? I'll be honest. This weirded me out. This was posted the day before he passed away at at a college event that she wasn't at. But he is but uh he is so it is the Holy Spirit. He is so calm. And that's a form of what I said earlier. What she's saying is he's calm because the Holy Spirit I wouldn't be calm. I Erica Kirk wouldn't be calm. Uh is that an admission you don't have the Holy Spirit lady? He is so calm. And that's a form of what I said earlier. Preach the gospel at all times. Use words if necessary. That's the last podcast she ever did on her midweek RiseUp podcast. I'll also note that the podcast was dormant for about nine months and it just happened to get going again right about the time that she would need to lay some sort of groundwork to be seen as capable of taking over that organization which is just bananas by the I want to show you a post that was put up. Now, I have the permission from the person who found this to go forward with it. This is not me stealing the credit. I don't know if this person wants credit or not because not everybody wants to be known, but this is one of our dear listeners who I have seen roll through the chat. So, I know this person is listening. If this person wants credit, by all means, jump in the chat and say, "I found that. I gave it to him. Let's go with it. But I don't I don't want to, you know, some people don't want to be seen as participating or whatever. They just want to be in the background. So, I don't want to out somebody who doesn't want to be outed. But we've talked about the fact that the Daily Liar crew is posting under Candace Owens old. Okay. Yeah. This is Whitney Murphy. She just said, "Go for it, Bar." So, that that's Whitney Murphy right there is the one that found this. We've talked about the fact that the Daily Liar crew is posting under Candace Owens old account under her old Candace Owens pod account cuz I guess they still own it or still have the credentials to it. One or the other. I want to show you what happens when you play this. This is purportedly just a joking joking around making fun of Candace. But let's let's let's pause it every so often and let's figure out if we can tell what message they're trying to send Candace Owens as we play this little diddy they put together. Oh, I hit the play on the wrong screen. Welcome friends. This is cassette 4 of the introductory adult reading curriculum. Read for all. This cassette will introduce onset letter sounds in context. Are you ready? Let's begin. >> What we're looking for is there's so there's a random bunch of phrases that are thrown around and it purports to be just an ABCs like like teaching people the alphabet. But if you watch it, some of the letters turn red. Some of the letters turn red. And it looks very random, but let's just let it play. >> A is for architecture. The architecture is delightful. >> So, if you're playing along at home, go ahead and grab a sheet of paper. I'll do it along with you if I can find a blank sheet of paper. Just put a D down because the D is the first letter that comes up. So, like you, I've put the letter D on my page. Actually, let me grab if I have one. Yeah, I do. I have a Sharpie so it'll be even easier for you guys to see. So, let me put a giant D down here. Giant D. All right. Let me put a Let me put a D down here. And we'll keep playing. >> B is for bees. Bees go buzz buzz. >> Notice the O. So, let's put an O next to our D. Do D O. This is on a Daily Liar account that they have access to that purports to be a random message about. >> C is for cease and desist. Hey, stop it now. >> Ah, N. D O N. All right, let's keep going. D is for delegitimatize. This debacle has really delegitimatized the work. >> So that's a T. D O N T. We've got the word don't