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Brian Investigates the Nicholas Roske Case: Attempted Assassination of Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh
The attempted assassination of Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh resulted in an eight-year sentence for Nicholas Roske, sparking debate across the political spectrum. Attorney General Pam Bondi called the sentence far too short and announced plans to appeal, while defense attorneys argued their client voluntarily abandoned the plan and called 911. Brian digs deep into court documents, examining months of internet searches, Discord messages indicating plans to target three justices, and the events that unfolded outside Kavanaugh's Maryland residence. With threats against federal judges more than doubling since 2021 amid an epidemic of political violence, this case raises questions about intent, mental health, and justice in an increasingly volatile climate.
The Case That Sparked National Debate
The eight-year sentence handed down to Nicholas Roske for attempting to assassinate Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh has ignited fierce debate about political violence, mental health, and appropriate sentencing. Attorney General Pam Bondi announced the government would appeal the sentence, calling it far too short. The prosecution had sought 30 years to life, while defense attorneys requested no more than 96 months, arguing their client voluntarily abandoned the plan and turned themselves in.
Beyond the headlines and social media outrage, the actual facts of the case reveal a complex story of months of planning, disturbing internet searches, and a last-minute decision to call 911. Brian examines the court documents to understand what actually happened and why this case has become so controversial.
Understanding the Defendant
Nicholas Roske, who was transitioning from male to female and went by the name Sophie Roske, was 26 years old at the time of arrest. Court documents refer to the defendant by different pronouns depending on whether they were filed by the prosecution or defense, with the legal charging documents using the birth name Nicholas Roske.
Roske lived in California and pleaded guilty in April to attempting to assassinate Justice Kavanaugh. The defendant turned themselves in outside the justice's home, telling authorities they were suicidal and had planned to kill the judge.
The Government's Case: Months of Meticulous Planning
According to the United States Attorney's sentencing memo, Roske's actions were far from impulsive. In spring 2022, the defendant meticulously researched, planned, and attempted to assassinate at least one sitting Supreme Court justice, with stated intentions to target three. The government's explicit claim was that the defendant's objective was to single-handedly alter the constitutional order for ideological ends.
The evidence presented by prosecutors painted a disturbing picture of preparation:
- A map saved in Roske's Google account contained location pins marking what the defendant believed to be the residential addresses of four sitting Supreme Court justices
- In the month leading up to June 8, 2022, Roske conducted internet searches for the homes of these four justices, including images
- In the two weeks before June 8, 2022, the defendant purchased a Glock 17 pistol, ammunition, a rail-mounted tactical light with laser sight, tactical gloves, non-slip grip socks, cable ties, pepper spray, a lock pick set, a screwdriver, and a wrecking bar
- Two days before June 8, 2022, Roske searched "Windows how to wipe down a drive" and submitted a request to permanently delete the Discord account where statements such as "people have killed judges before" had been made
The Discord Messages: "I'm Shooting for Three"
Discord, the same platform that came into play with other recent cases of political violence, featured prominently in the evidence against Roske. On March 18, 2022, the defendant told another Discord user: "My mental health is too poor for me to fear death, but prison sounds worse to be monitored to the point where you can't even kill yourself. So if I did kill someone, I would definitely try to get away with it."
In May 2022, when a leaked draft majority opinion showed the court was about to overturn Roe v. Wade, Roske searched for it on the computer. The defendant then spent the next two weeks searching terms relating to combat and body armor at least 28 times. Within a month, firearms-related terms were searched over 90 times.
Perhaps most chilling was a May 27, 2022 Discord message in which Roske stated an intent to remove multiple Supreme Court justices through murder. When asked "What you trying to do?" Roske responded: "Remove some people from the Supreme Court." The conversation continued: "Yeah, but I could at least get one, which would change the votes for decades to come, and I'm shooting for three."
The Extensive Internet Search History
The government cataloged months of disturbing internet searches that demonstrated, in their view, extensive premeditation. Examples from the search history included:
- "Quietest semi-auto rifle"
- "Best silencers for Glock 17"
- "Can you bring a gun in your luggage?"
- "How long does it take for cops to respond to shots fired?"
- "Homemade silencers"
- "Do snipers aim for the head or chest"
- "Best caliber for 200 yards"
- "Does the Secret Service protect Supreme Court justices?"
- "Easiest way to open a locked door"
- "How to break glass quietly"
- "How to remain undetectable"
- "Most reliable way to pick locks"
- "Best way to break into a house"
- "How to make shoes quieter"
- "How to make handcuffs with zip ties"
In the month leading up to June 8th, Roske searched Supreme Court and general searches about its cases 12 times, searched for Justice Brett Kavanaugh extensively 27 times, and searched for two other justices 16 times. The defendant also searched for the justices' home addresses.
Researching Methods of Murder
On June 4, 2022, Roske visited and viewed over 30 websites showing head and neck anatomy and graphics depicting knives in the body, especially in the neck. Some websites had graphic photographs of neck wounds and some showed a knife lodged in a person's neck.
Search terms from this period included:
- "How to quietly knock someone out"
- "How far into the neck is the trachea?"
- "How far into the neck is the throat?"
- "What is the best length of knife for stabbing?"
- "How much force do you need to stab someone's neck?"
- "Carotid artery"
- "Most effective way to silently kill someone"
- "Does twisting or dragging a knife cause more damage?"
- "Neck injury with highest mortality rate"
Roske also researched serial killers and murderers who were careful not to leave evidence, posting on Reddit: "Which serial killer was the most careful? By most careful I mean planned things out very conscious of leaving evidence purposefully trying to avoid having a pattern etc. I'm trying to write a killer who is very methodical, calm, patient, etc. Not theatrical but practical. I was curious what length someone like that would go to in order to avoid leaving evidence."
Planning the Escape
Simultaneous to researching specific targets and methods of killing, Roske researched how to evade prosecution by fleeing to foreign countries without extradition agreements with the United States. Search terms included:
- "Countries that don't extradite to the US"
- "Does Iceland extradite to the US?"
- "Does Sweden extradite to the US?"
- "How to get a passport in California?"
- "Countries least likely to extradite to the US"
The defendant also searched for potential legal defenses, including "insanity defense," "defense by reason of insanity," "what happens if you are suicidal in prison," and "if you are hospitalized after a crime, what happens."
The Journey to Maryland
On June 6, 2022, Roske attempted to fly from Los Angeles to Washington Dulles Airport but arrived at the airport too late to check a bag. The flight was rescheduled for the next day. On June 3, 2022, Roske had visited a shooting range to practice pistol shooting.
On June 8, 2022, Roske made the cross-country flight from Los Angeles to Washington. Upon arriving at Washington Dulles Airport, the defendant took a taxi to Justice Kavanaugh's address in Montgomery County, Maryland, arriving around 1:06 a.m.
The suitcase Roske brought contained:
- The purchased Glock 17 pistol
- Two loaded magazines and additional ammunition
- A chest rig (a harness to carry tactical gear)
- A knife
- Lockpicks
- A hammer
- Screwdriver
- Nail punch
- Crowbar
- Duct tape
- Hiking boots with padding affixed to the bottom of the soles
- Pepper spray
What Happened Outside Kavanaugh's Home: Two Different Accounts
The government and defense accounts of what happened next diverge substantially.
According to the government, two deputy marshals who were guarding Justice Kavanaugh's residence from separate vehicles stationed outside saw the taxi arrive and stop in the street directly in front of the residence. They watched Roske get out of the taxi and retrieve a suitcase from the trunk. One of the deputy United States Marshals was positioned to be able to get out of her car, cracking open her car door and illuminating the interior of her vehicle.
Upon seeing law enforcement's presence, the defendant decided to walk past the front of the house and directly past the deputy United States Marshal. In Roske's own words: "I noticed immediately that there were people sitting outside, and this was a very like empty neighborhood. So I was like, 'Okay, they're keeping a lookout.'"
The government argued it was only after observing a visible law enforcement presence protecting the residence that the defendant walked past the associate justice's home, received a phone call from a sister, and after speaking for approximately 20 minutes, called 911. The prosecution's position was clear: Roske only abandoned the plan after seeing the security detail, not out of voluntary remorse.
The Defense Version: Voluntary Abandonment
The defense presented a different narrative. According to their version, even before the taxi arrived, Roske realized the plan could not be carried through. They argued that while still in the taxi arriving in the justice's neighborhood, their client realized they could not go through with the plan.
The defense further argued that even if the court credited the government's assertion that it was the presence of the deputy US marshals that caused Roske to change course and walk past the house, it was abundantly clear that the presence of the security detail did nothing to provoke Roske to call 911 thirty minutes later from a nearby street. The security detail did not interact with Roske, let alone confront or pursue them, nor did they alert other law enforcement to Roske's presence or initiate any sort of investigation.
The 911 Call
At 1:39 a.m., Montgomery County 911 dispatch received a call from Nicholas Roske stating they were having thoughts of harming themselves or others. Roske stated they had flown from California with an unloaded firearm that was locked in a case, and that the case was inside a zip-tied shut suitcase. They added that they had a backpack that did not contain any weapons.
When asked if they needed medical attention, Roske stated they needed psychiatric help. Roske stated they had other weapons also inside the zip-tied suitcase, but none were in their possession.
The dispatcher instructed Roske on how to act when officers arrived, including placing the suitcase and backpack away from where Roske was standing and making sure they had nothing in their possession except clothing and cell phone. At one point, Roske asked if they should move further away from the bags. When the dispatcher said yes, Roske stated they had done so and moved about 20 yards away from the suitcase.
While sitting on the curb waiting for emergency responders to arrive, Roske continued to answer all the dispatcher's questions. When the dispatcher asked, "Okay, and why were you coming to Justice Brett Kavanaugh's house? Just to hurt yourself and him or what was going to be the plan?" Roske responded, "Correct."
As Roske stated they saw police coming, the dispatcher reminded them of the importance of following the officer's commands. Several Montgomery County police officers were dispatched to the area. Officer GD instructed Roske to put down the phone, stand up, and turn around. Roske complied. As officers approached, they could see that Roske had followed the dispatcher's instructions and moved away from the bags.
The Arrest and Interview
The defendant was apparently quite calm when arrested at the scene and at all times after the arrest. Roske's demeanor was calm, responsive, not verbally or physically agitated, and appeared to be resting on multiple occasions—at the scene, in an officer's car while being transported to the district station, while in a holding cell, and when approached in the interview room.
During the interview, Roske told the detective that after being dropped off by the taxi, they noticed immediately that there were people sitting outside and this was a very empty neighborhood, so they thought, "Okay, they're keeping a lookout." Then they went around the house on the other side. Soon after, Roske's sister called, and after that conversation, Roske called 911.
Roske told the detective that the burglary tools were purchased online and that they had conducted research for about a month for what they described as a "project" using the computer. In response to the detective asking what Roske planned to do with the duct tape, Roske stated, "Covering windows when I break them." About plans for the zip ties, Roske stated, "In case I wanted to restrain someone."
The Defense Argument: Mental Health and Internet Addiction
The defense built their case around Roske's deteriorating mental health and the argument that internet searches do not equate to criminal intent. They argued that basing a case on a defendant's internet search history, which included things the defendant thought about but did not do, was problematic.
According to the defense, a user's internet content is voluminous, intensely personal, and can easily be taken out of context. In a case about an attempt, they argued, it is especially important to distinguish what Roske intended and took substantial steps to do from what they merely thought about during a period of severe depression but never acted upon.
The defense emphasized that Roske's depression was worsening significantly in 2021 and 2022. Family members and friends observed withdrawal from people and things they used to love as they increasingly spent more and more time online. The defense cited research establishing a bidirectional relationship between poor psychological well-being, including depression and loneliness, and compulsive internet usage.
They argued that people with depression and loneliness are susceptible to developing compulsive patterns of internet use, and that compulsive internet use can negatively affect psychological well-being. Additionally, they cited neuroscience research finding that compulsive internet use interacts with the same parts of the brain as drugs and alcohol, resulting in dopamine hits that create addictive cycles.
The defense claimed that Roske's depression made them more susceptible to the pull of internet rabbit holes, and that many of the searches the government deemed nefarious had innocent explanations. They argued that searching for information about mass shootings does not mean someone aspires to commit one, but rather is consistent with someone concerned about the epidemic of gun violence. Similarly, searching for information about serial killers does not mean someone aspires to be one, but rather is consistent with someone who has partaken in the national obsession with true crime.
The defense noted that the investigation's memos included only those search terms deemed relevant to the offense conduct or otherwise nefarious, but did not include the many innocent terms Roske searched for, such as movies, TV shows, video games, information relating to filing taxes, news stories, and other random things.
No Plan to Escape or Evade Justice
The defense contested the government's argument that Roske researched potential escapes and defenses. While acknowledging searches for terms like "does Iceland extradite to the US" and "insanity defense," they pointed out that Roske did not take a single step in furtherance of either escaping the country or invoking a defense.
Roske did not have a passport or international travel plans. During the interview, they said nothing suggesting they were trying to invoke a defense or feigning insanity. They did not minimize or obfuscate their conduct in any way. Instead, Roske called 911, reported their thoughts and intentions, revealed their location, disclosed what weapons they had, remained in place as police arrived to arrest them, and freely admitted to investigators the details of their conduct—not because they were pursued by police or caught red-handed, but because they chose to abandon their plan and ask for help.
The Sentencing Arguments
The government sought a sentence of 30 years to life followed by lifetime supervised release. They argued that the defendant's sentencing guidelines range accurately reflected the severity of the crime, and that a guideline sentence of no fewer than 30 years to life was the necessary and just sentence given all the aggravating factors.
The prosecution emphasized that the attempted assassination of a justice of the United States Supreme Court required extensive premeditation. Roske researched, planned, procured the tools for the planned killings, traveled across the entirety of the country, had a gun, and attempted to delete online evidence of motive and intent. The defendant's objective to target and kill judges to seek to alter a court's ruling, they argued, is an abhorrent form of terrorism and strikes at the core of the United States Constitution and the prescribed system of government.
Roske's lawyers asked for a sentence of no more than 96 months (8 years), arguing that their client had called 911 to surrender and had voluntarily abandoned the plan. They emphasized Roske's history of self-disclosure when seeking treatment and the fact that in the deepest states of depression beginning at age 19, Roske had talked about suicidal thoughts and violent thoughts.
The Sentence and Appeal
Ultimately, the court sentenced Roske to 8 years—exactly what the defense requested, and far short of the 30 years to life sought by prosecutors. The sentence sparked immediate controversy, with Attorney General Pam Bondi calling it far too short and announcing plans to appeal.
At sentencing, Roske stated: "I've been portrayed as a monster. This is a tragic mistake I made. It will follow with me for the rest of my life."
The Broader Context of Political Violence
The Roske case comes amid what appears to be an epidemic of political violence in the United States. Threats against federal judges more than doubled since 2021, according to US Marshals Service data reviewed by Reuters. Some judges who have ruled on politically sensitive issues have faced threats and harassment along with their families.
The case also occurred during a period of intense violence affecting both private individuals worshipping together and public figures. The controversy over the sentence reflects deep divisions about how to address politically motivated violence, the role of mental health in criminal culpability, and whether voluntary abandonment of a criminal plan should significantly mitigate punishment.
The question at the heart of the debate is whether Roske should be sentenced for months of disturbing planning and stated intent to kill three Supreme Court justices, or for what actually happened: a last-minute decision to call 911 and surrender without harming anyone. The government argued for the former, emphasizing the extensive premeditation and the fact that only the presence of law enforcement prevented the crime. The defense argued for the latter, emphasizing voluntary abandonment and severe mental health issues.
The court sided more closely with the defense, but the government's appeal means the final word on this case has yet to be written.
Video Transcript
Hey guys, thanks so much for checking out my show. Really appreciate it. Please click to subscribe. Uh I have It's late, I know, but I've been up um researching this uh case of the person accused of attempting to assassinate Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaaugh. Uh and there's been all sorts of headlines about the eight-year sentence for the person and whether that was fair or not. And you guys, if you follow me, you know I'm not going to give my opinion about whether I think it's fair, but it it got me very curious about the actual case, the facts of the case, what happened, because you never really see anyone going deep. Everybody's just sort of outraged one way or the other. So, uh, in this episode, I'm going to go over everything that I've been able to find about this case of the person um, who attempted to assassinate Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaaugh and what led to that eight-year sentence. All of it in this episode of Brian Investigates. Hey guys. Okay, so here we go. I'm going to dig into the case here of Nicholas Ros. I've been going over everything. Um, sorry the lighting is a little funky, but I'm in my car. Um, he's obviously charged with attempting to assassinate Supreme Court Justice uh Kavanaaugh. So, this is kind of important for when I go through all of this because the pronouns may change a little bit. Um, Ros was transitioning from male to female. So, he went by the name Sophie Rossque. However, um Rosk was charged by his birth name, Nicholas Rossque, and that is the name that I'm going to use to discuss the story. But if I I'm going to be going back and forth and reading you sections from what the defense has said and what the prosecution has said. And so, sometimes the defense, some of the documents I'm reading refer to Nicholas Rosk as a she. So, if I go into she mode, it's because it's a defense filing, just in case it gets confusing with the pronouns. Um, so Ros uh pleaded guilty in April, put my glasses on, to the attempted assassination of Supreme Court Justice Kavanaaugh, turned himself in um outside the judge's home, telling authorities that he was suicidal and had planned to kill the judge. Um, Attorney General Pam Bondi Bondi, if you've been following this, has now claimed that the sentence of 8 years, which is what he got, 8 years, is far too short. Um, he she says that the government is going to appeal the sentence. And, uh, Ra's sentence comes, as we all know, amid political violence in America. I mean, it's been crazy the last month's month with the shootings that I've covered. Um, the murders in the church in Minneapolis, which was terrible, with the kids inside that Catholic church. We had the uh assassination of Charlie Kirk. I was in Utah for that. The two shootings that resulted in fatalities in both South Carolina, the murder of the Mormons, worshipping in a Michigan church. Um so there's been a lot of violence that has to do with politics lately. Um and really the truth is is what happened to Justice Kavanaaugh is really what seems to be an epidemic in our country. Um it's happening to both private individuals worshipping together, also public individuals. So, I'm going to focus on this latest tragedy ended without the murder of Justice Kavanaaugh, obviously, but we're going to discuss the controversial sentences the judge handed down to Rasque. Um, and I'm going to outline all the key facts of the case. Um, some have not been widely reported. So, I'm going to try to get into everything that I could find here. And again, the purpose of this is because I was thinking today there's so many like tweets about this, but I was like, what actually happened? I didn't even know. I mean, and I'm pretty up on the news. I only knew the bullet points. So, I wanted to like actually dive into the case of what really happened. So, um, as I said, the trans woman who attempted to assassinate Justice Kavanaaugh, Sophie Ros lived in California and was in the process of transitioning from a man, Nicholas Rosk, to a woman. According to court documents, uh the government's memo in aid of sentencing set forth the facts that the government alleged in its case against Nicholas Rossk. And that's what I'm going to go through the um the document which was written and submitted by United States Attorney Kelly O'Hayes alleged that the defendant had stated that she wanted to assassinate three sitting Supreme Court justices, but attempted to assassinate only one, uh Judge Kavanaaugh. So, let me read for you here what the government claimed Ross did prior to arriving in Washington. he traveled from Washington to um from Los Angeles. So they say in the spring of 20 uh of 2022, Rosk meticulously researched, planned, and attempted to assassinate at least one, but had a stated target of three um sitting judges on the United States Supreme Court. They alleged that the defendant's explicit objective was to single-handedly alter the constitutional order for ideological ends. Those plans mercifully were disrupted upon the defendant's arrival at the first associate justice's residence due to the presence of a protective security detail and the defendant was arrested at that loca at that location. The defendant owns the defendant's own words show that the defendant was shooting for three assassinations. And this is the evidence that they presented against Rosk. Map saved in the defendant's Google account contained location pins marking what the defendant believed to be the residential addresses of four sitting Supreme Court justices. Uh in the month leading up to June 8th, 2022, the defendant conducted internet searches for the homes of these four justices, including images. In the two weeks before June 8th, 2022, uh, the defendant purchased a Glock 17 pistol, ammunition, a railmounted tact tactical light with laser sight, tactical gloves, non-slip grip socks, cable ties, pepper spray, a lock pick set, a screwdriver, and a wrecking bar. Two days before June 8th, 2022, the defendant searched Windows how to wipe down a drive and submitted a request to delete permanently the defendant's Discord account where the defendant had made statements such as people have killed judges before. Discord, remember Discord came into play with the Charlie Kirk assassination, too. And I'm going to get more into Discord in a second. Uh on June 6th, 2022, Ros attempted to fly from Los Angeles to Washington Dallas airport, but arrived at the airport too late to check a bag. But since she couldn't check her bag, the government alleged um that she rescheduled her flight for the next day. On June 8th, 2022, Ross made the cross-country flight from Los Angeles to Washington. Upon arriving at Washington Dallas Airport, uh he took a taxi to Justice Kavanaaugh's address in Montgomery County, Maryland. He got there around 10:06 a.m. What happened next is Ross brought a suitcase containing the purchased Glock 17 pistol, two loaded magazines and additional ammunition, a chest rig, which is basically a harness to carry tactical gear, a knife, lockpicks, a hammer, screwdriver, nail punch, crowbar, duct tape, hiking boots with padding affixed to the bottom of the soles, and pepper spray. Okay. So, now is uh where the defendant story and the government's allegations part ways substantially. So, I'm going to go through what each side says happened here. The government says two deputy marshals who were guarding the associate justice's residence, Bret Kavanagh's residence, from separate vehicles stationed outside the residence saw the taxi arrive and stop in the street directly in front of the residence and watched the defendant get out of the taxi and retrieve a suitcase from the trunk. One of the deputy United States Marshals was positioned to be able to get out of her car, cracking open her car door and illuminating the interior of her vehicle. Upon seeing law enforcement's presence, the defendant decided to walk past the front of the house and directly past the deputy United States Marshall. In the defendant's own words, I noticed immediately that there were people sitting outside, and this was a very uh like empty neighborhood. So, I was like, "Okay, they're keeping a lookout." The government argued it was only after this point, after observing a vis phys v phys a visible law enforcement presence protecting the residents that the defendant walked past the associate justice's home, received a phone call from the defendant's sister, and after speaking for approximately 20 minutes, called 911. So basically, the government alleged in the sentencing memo that the defendant was about to go up to the Kavanaaugh residence with her suitcase, but after seeing the marshalss um then basically retreated. And then the defendant got a phone call from her sister, spoke to her for about 20 minutes, and then called 911, which is when she turned herself into authorities. So, the government goes on to state, and I'm going to read from this, that the attempted assassination of a justice of the United States Supreme Court required extensive premeditation and that Ros's researched, planned, procured the tools for the planned killings, you heard me read that long list, traveling across the entirety of the United States from LA to Washington. The defendant's criminal conduct, the attempted assassination of a justice of the United States, required extensive premeditation. The defendant um researched, planned, procured the tools for the planned killings, traveled across the entirety of the country, had a gun, attempted to delete online evidence of motive and intent. the defendant's objective to target and kill judges to seek to alter a court's ruling is an aborant form of terrorism and strikes at the core of the United States Constitution and our prescribed system of government. The government's sentencing memo also cited a discord message in which Ros wrote, "I am shooting for three." Again, this is something that I didn't know. I didn't know that there was more than one initially that he wanted to kill. And again, I'm sorry about the pronouns. Some of the documents that I have seem to say she and some say he I'm shooting for three indicating he had considered targeting additional justices beyond Kavanaaugh. The government sought the following sentence of 30 years. So the government wanted 30 years with lifetime supervision. Um the defendant sentencing guidelines range accurately reflects the severity of the crime and its recommended range of imprisonment of 30 years to life. government wanted 30 years to life. For the same reason, and as explained further in this memo, the government submits that a guideline sentence of no fewer than 30 years to life followed by lifetime supervised release is the necessary and just sentence in this case given all the aggravating and other factors to be considered. So, we now know that the defendant got 8 years. Government wanted 30. And I'm going to get to the defendant side of things in a second. In terms of Discord, remember Discord was a a site that the Charlie Kirk alleged assassin was on. Discord is a site that this defendant was also on. Um, state of Utah. Um, so back to Charlie Kirk. I had written this down. The state of Utah claims he was allegedly radicalized by leftist ideology involving discord. Um, but with Nicholas Rossque, the uh alleged attempted Brett Kavanaaugh assassin, says on March 18th, 2022, the defendant on Discord told another Discord user, "My mental health is too poor for me to fear death, but prison sounds worse to be monitored to the point where you can't even kill yourself. So, if I did kill someone, I would definitely try to get away with it." You wrote that on Discord. In April 2022, Ros's Google accounts repeatedly searched for shooting videos, including school shooting videos, and for mass shootings or mass shooters. Ros also searched firearms related terms, including 18 times, including buy guns online, gun store, where to find serial numbers on guns. Rosk also posted on Reddit which person's death would have the biggest impact on the world. In May, when a leaked draft majority opinion showing that the court was about to overturn Roie Wade, Ross searched it on his computer. He then spent the next two weeks searching terms relating to combat and body armor. He searched those things at least 28 times. Uh within a month, he had searched firearms related terms over 90 times. These are examples of some of his searches. Quietest semi-auto rifle, gun calibers, best silencers for Glock 17, can you bring a gun in your luggage? How long does it take for cops to respond to shots fired? 22 laser sight. Most important attachments for pistols. How far are 9 millimeters accurate? Homemade silencers. Other searches searches included, do snipers aim for the head or chest, best caliber for 200 yards, scope magnification for 200 yards? Does the Secret Service protect Supreme Court justices? Do you have to account for wind at 200 yards? Uh, in the month leading up to June 8th, Ross conducted online research into breaking into a residence, burglary tools, and ways to avoid detection. And those searches included easiest way to open a locked door, how to break glass quietly, how to remain undetectable, most reliable way to pick locks, best way to break into a house, how to make shoes quieter, how to make handcuffs with zip ties. And the searches continue. um searching guns and shooting, body armor, breaking and entering, methods to silent and avoid detection. Uh in the month leading up to June 8th, Ross searched Supreme Court and general searches about its cases 12 times. Searched the associate justice Brett Kavanaaugh extensively 27 times. Um researches two I guess there were two justices ex that he was specifically searching 16 times. Searched justice's home. um was looking for the address apparently. Uh and then there were more online statements made by Rosk on Discord. I'm going to read you some of those. This is what he allegedly wrote. Would Kavanaaugh being removed from the South Carolina help women long term? I'm sorry, South Carolina. God, I'm so tired. I put SC for the abbreviation. Would Kavanaaugh being removed from the Supreme Court help women long term? I was thinking of the road decision. I feel like those nine people make a much bigger impact than most people. What do you think would happen if Kavanaaugh died? Again, these are things that he wrote on Discord. Also, the right have a 5-4 majority. So, if one conservative justice dies, then it becomes 5-4 for the left. If a conservative judge were replaced by a liberal judge, thus changing which party has the majority, what would change? The thought of Roie Wade and gay marriage both being repealed has me furious. On May 27th, 2022, Rosk messaged a different user on Discord stating an intent to remove multiple Supreme Court justices through murder. In response to the question, "What you trying to do?" Ross stated, "Remove some people from the Supreme Court." "Yeah, but I could at least get one, which would change the votes for decades to come, and I'm shooting for three." And I didn't realize that there were initially three involved. And I said it once before, but it's like you read beneath the headlines here. People have killed judges before. This intent for multiple killings can be seen. So according to the government, Ros's intent to kill as Supreme Court justice goes back as far as January 2022. There are more evidence in his searches searched online for websites for mass shootings. Uh in in 2021, even back to 2021, Rosk also visited websites for how are mass murderers treated in prison and games where you play as a serial killer and try to get away with murder. In March 2022, Ross search for serial killers Don Donald Henry Gaskins and Peter Sutcliffe. Ross searches for killing uh included four videos of mass shootings such as shootings. Ross also searched for video from specific mass shooting events such as Southerntherland Springs, Texas. Um and so I mean there were all sorts of searches here. I'm not even going to read through of them all. How quickly how to quietly knock someone out. How far into the neck is the trachea? How far into the neck is the throat? What is the best length of knife for stabbing? How much force do you need to stab someone's neck? Cardoid artery, most effective way to silently kill someone. Does twisting or dragging a knife cause more damage? Neck injury with highest mortality rate. Wow. And then on June 4th, 2022, Ross visited and viewed over 30 websites showing head and neck anatomy and graphics depicting knives in the body, especially in the neck. Some of these websites had graphic photographs of neck wounds and some showed a knife lodged in a person's neck. Rosk also researched serial killers and murderers who were careful not to leave evidence, posting on Reddit which serial killer was the most careful. By most careful I mean planned things out very conscious of leaving evidence purposefully trying to avoid having a pattern pattern etc. I'm trying to write a killer who is very methodical, calm, patient, etc. Not theatrical but practical. I was curious what length someone like that would go to in order to avoid leaving evidence. Simultaneous to Ross's online research of specific targets, ways to kill someone, and ways to do so without leaving evidence, Ross purchased tools to carry out the plan. This included a Glock 17 at a gun store in California, a rail-mounted tactical light. A lot of this is already listed in the previous document. Cable ties, um, pryar, screwdriver, 34piece lock, pick set. He researched also into how to evade prosecution by fleeing to a foreign country and did not have an extradition agreement that we don't have an extradition agreement with. Um he he this is other things that he searched countries that don't extradite to the US. Does Iceland extradite to the US? Does Sweden extradite to the US? How to get a passport in California? Countries least likely to extradite to the US. So then June 2022, Rossk had conducted extensive research and obtained the items needed to carry out the planned assassinations. June 3rd, 2022, Ross visited a shooting range to practice pistol shooting. Same day, Ross conducted multiple online searches showing full awareness of what may occur after the crime, including insanity defense by reason of insanity, what happens if you are suicidal in prison, if you are hospitalized after a crime, what happens. gives you an idea of the level of planning here. On the next day, on June 4th, 2022, the same day that Ross visited over 30 websites showing head and neck anatomy and graphics depicting knives in the neck, on June 6th, 2022, Ross searched for Windows how to wipe down a drive, as well as received an email from Discord confirming receipt of a request to delete the Discord account that Ros had been using to post and message the statements quoted above. So then he wanted to delete his Discord account. The defendant was apparently quite calm when he was arrested at the scene and at all times after the arrest, Ross demeanor was calm, responsive, not verbally or physically agitated, appeared to be resting on multiple occasions, which is kind of weird to think resting after all that. Um, at the scene, an officer's car while being transported to the district station while in a holding cell. Um, apparently when they approached him in the interview room, he appeared to be resting. um told them that he takes medication every 12 hours. This is all in there, too. Ross told the detective that after being dropped off by the taxi, this so this goes back now to what Rossk says happened when he arrived at Justice Kavanaaugh's house. So, he told the detective that after being dropped off by the taxi, he noticed immediately that there were people sitting outside and this was a very like empty neighborhood. I was like, "Okay, they're keeping a lookout." So, then I went around the house on the other side. Soon after Ross's sister called and after that conversation, Ros called 911. So he talked to his sister and then he called 911 on himself. And so this is going to be his account of what he says happened. And this comes into people who believe that he shouldn't have gotten as serious a sentence and agree with the eight years are saying it's because ultimately he realized he was doing wrong and called 911 himself. And that's what this part of gets into. Um he also called the detective that the burglary tools were purchased online. So he told the detective that the burg burglary tools were purchased online. So he was admitting this and that Rossk conducted research for about a month for what described he described as a project. I guess he called it a project using the computer. In response to the detective asking what Ross planned to do with the duct tape, Ross stated covering windows when I break them and about plans for the tip ti zip ties. Ross stated in case I wanted to restrain someone. And then the interview concluded shortly after at the defendant's initial appearance the same day. He confirmed that Rosk has been taking medications prescribed by a doctor and had taken them that day. Um, so this is what he says happened. 1:39 a.m. Montgomery County 911 dispatch received a call from a Nicholas Ross stating that he was having thoughts of harming himself or others. Mr. Ross stated he had flown from California with an unloaded firearm that was locked in a case and that the case was inside a zip tied shut suitcase. He added that he had a backpack that did not contain any weapons. When asked if he needed medical attention, Mr. Ross stated he needed psychiatric help. Mr. Ross stated that he had other weapons with him also inside the zip tied suitcase, but none were in his possession. The dispatcher instructed Mr. Rosk on how to act when the officers arrived, including by placing the suitcase and backpack away uh from where Mr. Ros made a very brief initial 911 call, hung up before providing any information and called right back. He was standing and making sure he had nothing in his possession except his clothing and cell phone. At one point, Mr. Ross asked if he should move further away from his bags. So, he surrendered, you know, without doing anything. When the dispatcher said he should, Mr. Ross stated he had done so and moved about 20 yards away from the suitcase. And while Mr. Ross sat on the curb waiting for emergency responders to arrived, he continued to answer all the dispatchers questions. When the dispatcher asked, "Okay, and why were you coming to Justice Brett Kavanagh's house?" Just to hurt yourself and him or what was going to be the plan, Mr. Ros then responded, "Correct." As Mr. Ross stated he saw police coming. The dispatcher reminded him the importance of following the officer's commands. I you can imagine at this point they know he's armed and you know if he made any sudden movements obviously that would be a big issue. So they reminded him of following the officer's commands. Several Montgomery County police officers were dispatched to the area. Officer GD instructed Mr. Ros to put down his phone, stand up, and turn around. Mr. Ros did so. As officers approached, they could see that Mr. Ros had followed the dispatcher's instructions and moved away from his bags. Other information from defense on the crime um basing a case on a defendant's internet search which included things that the defendant thought and did not do is not a crime. So that's one this is now one of the sorry that was one of the notes I made. This is one of the defenses um claims here that they were trying to prove that just because he searched some of this stuff didn't mean that he was actually going to do it. and in the end he didn't end up doing he ended up calling 911 instead. Um they the government's response details months of Ross's internet activity including Google searches, communications on Discord. As I went through they cataloged the entire internet history basically were like look we have all of the stuff googling Discord dark corners of the internet. They said um but the defense was claiming well dark corners of the internet does not equate to a criminal intent. a user's internet content is voluminous, intensely personal, and can easily be taken out of context. They said in a case about uh a crime here, an attempt, it is especially important to distinguish that Mr. And now they go back to Miss Ross because this is the defense writing intended and took substantial steps to do from what she merely thought about during a period of severe depression, but never acted upon. So, they're saying she was depressed, did this during a a period of severe depression, but never acted on it. The former is a crime when Miss Ross has accepted a responsibility for it. The latter is not. Um, but Miss Ross's conduct did not encompass an attempt to target multiple justices or efforts to evade capture or hide evidence. The court should sentence Miss Ross for what she did, not for what she thought about. The court should sentence Miss Ross for what she did. Yeah. Not for what she thought about. Miss Rossk did not have a plan and did not attempt to target three justices or anyone else. The fact that Miss Ross conducted internet research into and messaged a friend about multiple justices is troubling. But the government's evidence does not support finding by a preponderance of the evidence that Miss Ross planned or attempted to target anyone other than the associate justice she had pleaded guilty to targeting. At most, the facts support a finding that at some point, Miss Rossk had an idea of targeting more than one justice that did not result in action. So, they keep saying there was no action here. The government cites months of Google searches, including searches for shootings and serial killers, to insinuate that Miss Ross began researching a crime months before she committed it. But there is a limit to the relevance on one's internet search history, which can easily be taken out of context or assigned more meaning than it's worth. Miss Ross's case is no exception to this. Miss Ross's poor mental health condition, internet use contributed to her deteriorating mental health. And they're trying to say the defense is she was mentally unwell and was never actually planning to commit the murder. Miss Ross's depression was worsening significantly in 20 21 and 2022. They say her family members and friends observed her withdrawal from people wine reduction sauce on a bed. I do not know what that was. I think my my card is connected to someone else's Bluetooth or something. That was really weird. Um, sorry. Her family member and friends observed her withdrawal from people and things she used to love as she increasingly spent more and more time online. Research has long established a birectional relationship between poor psychological well-being, including depression and loneliness, and problematic internet usage. People with depression and loneliness are susceptible to developing compulsive patterns of internet use. Compulsive internet use can negatively affect psychological well-being, they say. Additionally, neuroscience research has found that compulsive internet use interacts with the same parts of the brain as drugs and alcohol resulting in dopamine hits that create addictive cycles. So, they're sort of blaming it on the internet here. Zo Wyatt wire for Want how dopamatic are there? Sorry, this is them citing us an article here. That very depression made him more susceptible to the gravitational pull of internet rabbit holes. They say in the future, any concerning internet behavior will not go unnoticed as Miss Ross will be subject to a computer monitoring condition during her period of supervised release. Many of Miss Ross internet searches from May and June 2022 are indisputably relevant to this offense. Indeed, she informed the 911 dispatcher and investigators that she had done research and purchased supplies online in furtherance of her plan. So that Miss Ross was looking for information about ma information about mass shootings does not mean she aspired to commit one. They say rather it is consistent with someone who is concerned about the epidemic of gun violence in our country. So they're saying that she was maybe researching this because she was concerned about gun violence in our country. But I mean it's a lot of research there. Similarly, that she searched for information about serial killers does not mean she aspired to be one. Rather, it is consistent with someone who has partaken in the national obsession with true crime. The defense says the investigation's memos include only those search terms it deemed relevant to the offense conduct or otherwise nefarious. It does not include the many innocent terms that Miss Ross searched for, such as movies, TV shows, video games, information relating to filing taxes, news stories, other random things. Um, they say she took to involving harming anyone or herself. Thankfully, by the time her plan disintegrated, she was not even able to access her weapons to harm herself, let alone someone else. They say Miss Ross did not intend to attempt or escape. Um, so there's again going back to like saying nothing actually ended up happening. The government argues that Miss Ross preemptively researched potential escapes and defenses by searching for terms like does Iceland extradite to the US and insanity to defense. But again, um they say the defense is saying that she never actually did anything. They say she called 911, reported her thoughts and intentions, revealed to police her location, what weapons she had, remained in place as police arrived to arrest her, and she freely admitted to investigators the details of her conduct, not because she was pursued by police or caught red-handed, but because she chose to abandon her plain plan. She chose to ask for help. Miss Ross did not take a single step in furtherance of either escaping the country or involving invoking a defense. She did not have a passport or international travel plans. During her interview, she said nothing suggesting she was trying to invoke a defense or feigning insanity. She did not minimize or uh obiscate her conduct in any way. Um and they're basically saying she voluntarily abandoned the plan. That's what they keep going back to. Um, so that that's why they claimed she should have gotten less time and she ended up getting less time. I mean, the judge obviously agreed with some of this cuz the prosecution asked for 30 years. She got eight years. Mr. Ros um sentencing memorandum also explains while she was still in the taxi arriving in the justice neighborhood, she realized she could not go through with her plan. The defense argued that even if the court credits the government's assertion that it was the presence of the deputy US marshal that caused Miss Ross to change course and walk past the house, it is abundantly clear that the presence of the security detail did nothing to provoke Miss Ross to call 911 30 minutes later from a nearby street. The security detail did not interact with Miss Ross, let alone confront or pursue her. Uh nor did they alert other law enforcement to Miss Ross's presence or initiate any sort of investigation. So, they're basically saying she was going to call 911 on her own regardless and that she didn't actually get caught, but she turned herself in. According to her defense, they say she has a history of self-disclosure when seeking treatment. Um, and uh that she had been in her deepest states of depression beginning at the age of 19, talking a lot about her suicidal thoughts and violent thoughts. Um, really going back to the mental illness. Um, and again saying that she backed out, called the police ultimately. Um, then it goes back to the defense basically saying that, um, I mean, look at the planning they're saying. Look at everything she did leading up to this. Um, so she pleaded guilty last year, by the way, to attempting to assassinate Supreme Court Justice Kavanaaugh. Um and then the sentencing, as we all know, just happened and um she got 8 years. By the way, interesting. I was pulling these statistics today. Threats against federal judges more than doubled since 2021, according to US Marshall Service data reviewed by Reuters. Some judges who have ruled against Trump administration policies have faced threats and harassment along with their families. That was according to the Reuters investigation. also vice versa judges um really on both sides people have you know both sides of the political aisle. Uh Rosco was 26 when she was arrested and pleaded guilty. she was dismayed at the uh unexpected Supreme Court opinions. Really, you know, goes back to the politics of this all and that she, you know, wanted to change the trajectory of the Supreme Court essentially according to the uh the prosecutors. Um she said, "I've been portrayed as a monster. This is a tragic mistake I made. It will follow with me for the rest of my life." Ross lawyers asked sentence order no more than 96 months because she had called 911 to surrender. So they wanted 96 months. Um prosecution wanted 30 years. She ended up getting 8 years. Um so that's kind of the summary that I came up with it. I mean, there are a lot of court documents, but I I wanted to just give you guys sort of the I know I went through a lot of information fast, but I wanted to give you guys the lay of the land in this case. And I hope I did a decent job just again because I was frustrated over the last day just seeing um all of the just headlines about the sentence and not really understanding exactly what the defendant was accused of doing and what the arguments were on both sides. So, anyway, thank you guys for watching. Sorry if I was rambling. Um, but that's I wanted to get this all out. Uh, and yeah, thank you guys for subscribing. I'm now I was just doing YouTube for a while, but now I got on Spotify and Apple Podcast and iHeart uh audio versions, too. So, if you guys are on YouTube, but you want to listen, uh, you can check out those platforms, too. Um, and thank you guys for, um, supporting me. I'm having like a really great time with the podcast. 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