Campus Divide: Liberal Art Students React to Kirk’s Assassination

[00:00] I'm glad that he died. You think he

[00:01] should have been murdered because he

[00:03] disagrees with you? Basically,

[00:04] >> I don't think he should have been

[00:05] murdered, but I feel like

[00:06] >> you said I'm happy he died. I'm not mad

[00:08] that he was.

[00:09] >> Yeah. Well, speaking about Charlie Kirk,

[00:11] I mean, he was brutally murdered because

[00:14] he was speaking his mind. Do you think

[00:15] that that was justified?

[00:17] >> Yeah.

[00:18] >> Yes.

[00:19] >> Savannah and I are here today at Pratt

[00:21] Institute, one of the most hopefully

[00:23] pro-f freedom of speech and pro- freedom

[00:25] of expression places in the country.

[00:27] This is an Ivy League art school in

[00:29] Brooklyn, New York. And we are going to

[00:30] see what these students, if they're

[00:32] being indoctrinated or not. We're going

[00:34] to see what they have to think about the

[00:35] whole Charlie Kirk situation and

[00:36] political violence and the culture war.

[00:37] >> Yeah, let's go.

[00:38] >> What do you think about people that are

[00:40] celebrating the death of someone that

[00:42] was just speaking his mind, Charlie

[00:43] Kirk?

[00:43] >> I'm glad that he died because he don't

[00:46] give a [ __ ] about me. It's getting to a

[00:48] point now where it's like debates can't

[00:50] even happen. say people who are like

[00:53] right-wing or like anything like that,

[00:55] they will find any way to like not get

[00:57] there like they will they won't meet

[00:59] anybody else in the conversation. It has

[01:01] to be like the way that they think.

[01:02] >> Once you realize that 99% of this hate

[01:04] that is spewed by these types of people

[01:06] is based on fear. You'll understand

[01:08] their reactions and the psychology

[01:10] behind it all. And you'll understand why

[01:12] I have some sympathy or empathy towards

[01:15] these types still.

[01:16] >> So many queer people, people of color

[01:18] have been killed and it's not on the

[01:20] news. There's a lot of factors that if

[01:23] you check all these boxes, you being

[01:25] murdered as a person is not going to

[01:27] even get in the newspaper. You're less

[01:28] than is essentially. And that's not

[01:30] >> if you're if you're queer or black or a

[01:33] woman or and I'm not saying that. I

[01:35] don't believe that. But it's like

[01:36] there's so many people that are murdered

[01:39] and if they're like sex workers or drug

[01:41] dealers or something, they're seen as

[01:43] less than. Like still, it's not good

[01:45] that he was killed. But I feel like he's

[01:48] still indirectly supporting Trump and

[01:50] Trump doesn't like every type of person.

[01:52] He's trying to bring back slavery. He's

[01:55] trying to

[01:55] >> Okay, I'm sorry. I don't mean to laugh,

[01:57] but like where where did you hear that?

[02:00] >> I mean, it's kind of obvious, right?

[02:02] >> No,

[02:02] >> he doesn't like black people. They're

[02:03] trying to make laws for segregation

[02:05] again.

[02:06] >> He doesn't like black people, but he

[02:07] invited me to the White House back in

[02:10] May. I went to the White House. Why

[02:11] would he invite me to the White House?

[02:12] You think it's like mostly right-wing

[02:14] people have that problem? I mean, like,

[02:16] you know, everything is subjective.

[02:17] Like, there's always exceptions to

[02:18] everything. But I've seen more examples

[02:21] of people who are in support of people

[02:23] like Trump or Charlie Kirk or anything

[02:25] like that that are just so rigid in the

[02:26] way that they think that like they they

[02:28] will think that any other mindset is

[02:30] like a joke to them. He was brutally

[02:32] murdered because he was speaking his

[02:34] mind. Do you think that that was

[02:36] justified?

[02:36] >> Yeah.

[02:37] >> Okay.

[02:38] >> Yes.

[02:38] >> We should be able to kill people if we

[02:40] don't agree with them.

[02:41] >> Whatever. Keep in mind that the majority

[02:42] of these types of students are told by

[02:45] the media, by their peers, by their

[02:47] teachers that Gaza is safer for gays

[02:50] than Trump.

[02:50] >> What did Charlie say that says he

[02:52] doesn't like people like you? Honestly,

[02:55] I don't know, but that's just what I've

[02:56] heard.

[02:57] >> You know, it's like, [ __ ] around and

[02:58] find out.

[02:59] >> Blinded by rage. A lot of people are

[03:01] really angry and scared. Fear creates

[03:03] anger. You know, you displacement. You

[03:06] don't know where to put it.

[03:07] >> How could you say that about Charlie?

[03:08] because it's the internet and I don't

[03:10] know him and people make memes and it's

[03:11] funny.

[03:12] >> I mean, if we're going to go on that

[03:14] logic, right, that if you [ __ ] around,

[03:15] find out what if you say something one

[03:16] day and somebody doesn't agree with what

[03:18] you have to say and they think it's okay

[03:19] to kill you for it. I mean, you're an

[03:20] art school student. This is literally

[03:21] what you're what you're studying, right?

[03:22] Freedom of expression.

[03:23] >> Yeah.

[03:24] >> Yeah.

[03:24] >> Yeah.

[03:24] >> So, what makes your right to speak

[03:26] different than somebody else's?

[03:27] >> It's not different. Everything has

[03:28] consequences.

[03:28] >> How would you know what where the line

[03:30] is drawn is what I'm saying.

[03:31] >> But like I I feel bad for people that

[03:32] were affected by it. But this is the

[03:34] thing is that you may not feel empathy

[03:36] because you didn't know him. mean and

[03:37] agree with him, but everybody should

[03:39] feel offended because if they can kill

[03:41] him, they can kill me, they can kill

[03:44] you, they can kill her, they can kill

[03:46] him, they can kill everybody.

[03:48] >> Direction the country is headed right

[03:49] now ain't good.

[03:49] >> I agree with that.

[03:50] >> Probably a lot of people agree with that

[03:51] no matter their political standing of

[03:53] just

[03:54] >> honestly I'm surprised that these types

[03:55] of people can get sleep if any at all.

[03:58] But we know here on this channel we

[03:59] don't have any problem in that

[04:01] department thanks to sponsors like

[04:03] Beam's Dream. Dream has all natural

[04:06] sleep ingredients, which on their own

[04:08] can be powerful, but put together is

[04:11] another level. Just one scoop into a mug

[04:13] of milk or hot water and sip 30 minutes

[04:16] before bedtime. 89% of people that have

[04:18] used Dream agree that it reduces

[04:20] restlessness. 82% of people agree that

[04:22] Dream improves mental state at night.

[04:24] 79% of people say that it allows for a

[04:27] deeper sleep. I wake up every night to

[04:29] pee at exactly 4 in the morning. You can

[04:31] ask my friends if this is true. Dream

[04:33] helps me fall back asleep much quicker

[04:35] than I have in the past. Before I would

[04:37] toss and turn and I I' I'd have a lot of

[04:39] trouble falling back asleep. This makes

[04:40] it a hundred times easier. I wake up

[04:42] feeling so much better. Even people like

[04:44] myself who take their mental, emotional,

[04:46] physical, and spiritual health seriously

[04:48] can have problems sleeping. And many of

[04:50] us work hard. We have kids. It gets

[04:53] tiring. Use Dream as your Sunday night

[04:55] reset to make sure that your week ahead

[04:57] is going to go as perfectly as you as it

[04:59] can go. It's personally been a gamecher

[05:01] for me and I know it can be for you as

[05:03] well. Use code Ariela for 35% off your

[05:05] first month and 20% off each month after

[05:08] that. You get a free frother, free

[05:10] shipping, and the option to pause or

[05:12] cancel at any time. Make sure you go and

[05:14] support brands and companies that

[05:16] support our morals and this channel.

[05:18] Back to the video.

[05:18] >> Do you think that it was wrong that he

[05:20] was assassinated?

[05:21] >> That's up to interpretation to be

[05:23] honest. Half half of people will say he

[05:25] didn't deserve it. Other people will say

[05:27] he died by his words.

[05:28] >> What do you say? I mean, I feel like he

[05:30] died by his words, but death is death.

[05:32] Death is bad regardless. Do you believe

[05:34] in freedom of speech in his country?

[05:35] >> Uh, yeah. You should, right? You're from

[05:37] China, so you know, you know the

[05:39] difference, right? It's a big difference

[05:40] between between here and and China,

[05:42] right?

[05:43] >> Mhm.

[05:43] >> Do you think somebody should be silenced

[05:45] for their political opinions?

[05:46] >> I think in American people can uh talk

[05:51] very free. I'm afraid. I don't know.

[05:53] >> We're living in a country now that you

[05:54] could get killed if you say what you

[05:57] believe in.

[05:58] >> That's shouldn't be afraid. That's the

[06:00] point we're trying to make, right?

[06:01] >> Yeah. Do you think America is a place

[06:03] where we should have to fear that?

[06:05] >> And I think in America is fine, but in

[06:08] China is that definitely we cannot say

[06:10] anything about the uh government or the

[06:14] right.

[06:14] >> Yeah, absolutely. I know there's um a

[06:17] lot of well there's a lot of

[06:18] international students here but a lot of

[06:20] international students here who are now

[06:21] feeling like they can't get involved

[06:23] with anything or actually like express

[06:24] how they feel or like stand up for it at

[06:27] all because or like engage with anything

[06:29] online for out of fear of like their

[06:31] visa getting or like something like that

[06:33] >> some sort of repercussion.

[06:34] >> We had a girl we just interviewed not

[06:36] too long ago. She's from China and she's

[06:39] coming here to do design. You know about

[06:41] China they're pretty communist. You

[06:42] can't really say anything about the

[06:44] government. can't put your opinions out,

[06:45] but America's not supposed to be like

[06:47] that. And she said that, you know, one

[06:48] of the reasons that she came here was

[06:50] because she feels more safe. And now we

[06:53] just witnessed a public assassination of

[06:56] a man because he was doing just that,

[06:58] speaking his mind.

[06:59] >> And that's why you're here, right?

[07:00] You're here because you want to express

[07:01] yourself freely, right?

[07:03] >> Yeah.

[07:03] >> I don't know. I think America's like

[07:05] they're downgrading so much. In fact,

[07:08] they might they're becoming like China

[07:10] in a way.

[07:10] >> It's kind of scary. I grew up in a

[07:12] country where you couldn't speak your

[07:14] mind.

[07:14] >> Okay. Where you from?

[07:15] >> And Hitler in Germany and he just spoke

[07:19] quietly at home about things we didn't

[07:23] like. Mhm.

[07:24] >> Does it scare you that America is going

[07:27] down that path it seems?

[07:28] >> Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Everything has

[07:31] changed.

[07:32] >> I feel like the people who had that kind

[07:34] of mentality that Hitler did of like,

[07:36] "No, I don't believe what you're saying,

[07:38] so I'm just going to take over." I think

[07:39] that's flooding into America a little

[07:41] bit and it's by people who have never

[07:44] experienced being under somebody like

[07:46] Hitler. Isn't that interesting?

[07:48] >> Yes.

[07:48] >> Yeah.

[07:49] >> Yeah.

[07:49] >> I mean, I think maybe maybe we're so

[07:51] privileged in this country that we are

[07:54] trying to find something to make us feel

[07:56] victimized, which is weird.

[07:58] >> Creating our own problems.

[07:59] >> Yeah. We're creating our own problems

[08:00] because we just don't have any. So, we

[08:03] just need to come up with an excuse on

[08:04] why we're victims.

[08:06] >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, do you agree with

[08:08] the statement that you that you think

[08:09] freedom of expression is important for

[08:11] all people? Freedom of

[08:12] >> As long as you're not hurting someone.

[08:13] >> So, you think words are not violence?

[08:15] >> Well, they can be. Yes.

[08:16] >> Okay. How?

[08:17] >> Cuz they can incite violence.

[08:19] >> Where do you think the line is drawn

[08:20] between hate speech, free speech, and

[08:21] and incitement of violence? Cuz hate

[08:24] hate speech is basically basically based

[08:26] on opinion. Cuz a lot of people agreed

[08:27] with what Charlie was saying. I'm a

[08:28] lesbian. I don't agree with things that

[08:29] he said. I don't think anyone can ever

[08:30] be killed for that.

[08:31] >> It also depends on like the kind of

[08:32] rhetoric. It's like it's like, you know,

[08:34] you get you get what you put out into

[08:35] the world. He was he was proposing like

[08:37] gun law rhetoric, you know, freedom to

[08:39] carry and he was killed by like the same

[08:40] people that like he usually like

[08:42] advertises to. So it's like, you know,

[08:44] >> the shooter was gay and was, you know,

[08:46] dating a a person who was transitioning.

[08:48] Charlie doesn't usually affiliate

[08:50] himself with leftists. I mean, if

[08:52] somebody wanted to kill AOC, Joe Biden,

[08:55] Kla Harris, like you would be full in

[08:57] support of that cuz they if they didn't

[08:58] agree with them.

[08:59] >> It's not about I'm in support cuz I

[09:01] agree with them. I just feel like, you

[09:02] know, it's a thing that happens.

[09:04] >> How far does that go? Cuz I mean some

[09:05] people might say, "Well, I think it's

[09:06] okay to rape somebody." Like, "Should we

[09:08] not criminalize rape?" Then just let let

[09:10] people rape.

[09:11] >> Like, no, obviously not.

[09:13] >> But what she's saying is that laws have

[09:14] definitions, right? And and if if we're

[09:16] saying that violence can be defined as

[09:18] somebody being offended by words that

[09:20] could be translated to almost anything.

[09:22] >> Is there a line or is it person to

[09:24] person? And therefore, like if it's

[09:25] person to person, then we shouldn't have

[09:26] any laws. We should just let people do

[09:28] what they want to do.

[09:29] >> I can't really say as like as far as

[09:31] when the line or where the line or how

[09:33] it should be drawn. I just know that,

[09:35] you know, sometimes people just have

[09:36] enough.

[09:37] >> How do we define what hate speech is

[09:38] then? How do we define what is

[09:39] considered like, oh, well, that's

[09:41] justifiable because he said that versus

[09:42] it's not justifiable because he only

[09:44] said this.

[09:45] >> I think it depends on the scenario. I

[09:46] don't

[09:48] >> You see how it can get you see how it

[09:49] can get very tricky though cuz I could

[09:50] sit here and say I don't like they them.

[09:52] >> Yeah,

[09:52] >> cuz I I don't I actually Not that I

[09:54] don't like you. That could be considered

[09:56] hate speech or or incitement of violence

[09:57] potentially.

[09:58] >> So,

[09:58] >> but but somebody else would. Well, you

[10:00] can just say that you don't like someone

[10:02] and that's not hate speech.

[10:03] >> Right. Right.

[10:04] >> See, that's where so much of the left

[10:06] disagrees that if say, "Well, you're a

[10:08] Christian." Like, that's what they said

[10:09] about Charlie. Charlie is a Christian.

[10:11] He doesn't support the LGBT community.

[10:12] Yeah, he didn't. But does that mean he

[10:14] hated gay people? Does that mean he

[10:16] thought they shouldn't exist? Does that

[10:17] mean he thinks that they should be put

[10:19] in these fake camps that people keep

[10:21] making up? No. hospital.

[10:23] >> You you can you cannot support

[10:26] somebody's actions or their lifestyle,

[10:28] but also respect them as a human being

[10:30] on a platform saying these people are

[10:32] bad in and spreading that to not just

[10:35] like oh I don't like this one person

[10:38] where it's like you don't like them

[10:39] because part of them the like a huge

[10:42] part of them you disagree with. Maybe we

[10:44] should be more clear and say that like

[10:45] this is obviously this isn't all people.

[10:47] But I think we know that like I think we

[10:48] know not all white people are racist.

[10:50] Not all black people are thugs. Not all

[10:53] Asian people are like have the highest

[10:55] IQ. I mean all of these

[10:56] >> we knew this 20 years ago when I went to

[10:58] this damn school happens. I really

[11:00] don't. But what I'm saying is I think

[11:01] it's important to recognize where this

[11:03] is all coming from so we can put an end

[11:05] to it. I went to this school 20 years

[11:06] ago, right? Almost 20 years ago, 15

[11:08] years ago, whatever it is. We were all

[11:09] about pro- freedom of expression,

[11:10] freedom of speech. Like there were

[11:12] people of every different race,

[11:13] nationality, religions that went here.

[11:14] And now whenever I go onto any college

[11:16] campus, most of them I would say across

[11:17] the country. Like I literally fear. And

[11:19] there was a girl we just we just talked

[11:21] to two minutes ago that said, "I'm

[11:22] afraid to say what I think."

[11:24] >> That's what

[11:24] >> And and and an art school at an art

[11:26] school in the middle in America in New

[11:29] York City in the bluest place, people

[11:31] are afraid of their own opinions.

[11:33] >> That is a big problem. regardless of

[11:36] what you believe or not, people should

[11:37] have the opportunity to speak about it

[11:39] because that's how we also derail bad

[11:41] ideas, right?

[11:42] >> Do you feel like you have the freedom to

[11:45] speak your mind in America right now?

[11:47] >> Um, personally, no. For people that

[11:49] disagree with you, like you probably

[11:51] don't feel super comfortable saying what

[11:53] you feel.

[11:53] >> What do you think about that fact that

[11:55] just saying that you're you're in a blue

[11:56] city in a blue state at a college campus

[11:58] in New York City and you don't feel like

[12:00] it's okay to speak your mind? I mean, I

[12:02] feel like it's

[12:03] >> you're at an art school

[12:04] >> and you feel like you're afraid to say

[12:06] what you really think.

[12:07] >> Isn't that a problem? I mean,

[12:08] >> it is a big problem.

[12:09] >> It's a big problem. When I went here 20

[12:11] years ago, everyone everyone spoke their

[12:12] mind. No one said people would do crazy

[12:14] [ __ ] It's art school, right? There was

[12:16] somebody that staged a suicide death

[12:17] here in the bathroom. Do you remember?

[12:19] Okay. That was when I was here. They did

[12:21] a fake hanging sculpture in the

[12:23] bathroom. Imagine people doing that now.

[12:25] >> No, I agree with you. Wonderful.

[12:26] >> So, you did hear about that in the

[12:27] bathroom? Wow. That was when I went to

[12:28] school. Legendary.

[12:29] >> We were legends. We were legends. We

[12:30] were iconic back in the day. Like I said

[12:32] in the beginning of the video, it's sad

[12:33] that we're at supposed hopefully one of

[12:35] the most pre-f freedom of expression

[12:36] places in the country and we're still

[12:38] finding people that have an issue with

[12:40] freedom of expression, freedom of

[12:41] speech. We don't want people on our side

[12:43] or our side to do what what the people

[12:45] on the other side are doing right now.

[12:46] That's why we're we're taking a stand

[12:47] and saying like it's not okay when

[12:49] anybody does it.

[12:49] >> I can't really say too much of like if

[12:51] he deserved to die or it should have

[12:53] happened. It did happen and that's a

[12:54] thing that happens. And

[12:56] >> we don't think it was wrong. No,

[12:57] >> we want to know where the current state

[12:59] of of America with with the the college

[13:01] students is standing. And I think

[13:02] >> assassinations are a thing. You know,

[13:04] >> I don't agree with killing people like

[13:09] >> an assassination like I don't

[13:11] >> that's not going to help anything. Carly

[13:13] Kirk was assassinated for speaking his

[13:15] mind.

[13:15] >> Yeah.

[13:16] >> What do you think about that situation?

[13:18] >> I think it was wrong because at the end

[13:20] of the day, he was just speaking his

[13:21] mind. You know, he shouldn't have been

[13:23] assassined for that.

[13:24] >> I can tell you I actually knew the guy.

[13:25] I saw him only a month before he was

[13:27] murdered. I'm obviously not white. I'm

[13:29] not a man. And there's all these people

[13:30] saying, you know, he was racist. He

[13:32] hated women. All he ever did was

[13:33] encourage me to follow my dreams, to be

[13:36] loyal, and, you know, worship God and

[13:38] get married, have babies. That was his

[13:39] message. And somebody thought that it

[13:41] was okay to just murder him because of

[13:43] words.

[13:44] >> It's crazy cuz at the end of the day,

[13:46] everyone speaks their mind on the

[13:47] internet. So, it's like, why him,

[13:49] >> right?

[13:49] >> Like, what makes him different from

[13:51] everyone else?

[13:52] >> Because he's making an impact and people

[13:53] are afraid of that. And that worries me

[13:55] for people like you guys who are a lot

[13:56] of your media major, I'm assuming.

[13:58] Marketing, not

[13:59] >> architecture. Okay. You're somebody

[14:00] that's literally building the future.

[14:02] >> Literally building the future. Okay. And

[14:04] you're afraid of it.

[14:05] >> Yeah.

[14:06] >> That's not normal.

[14:06] >> Did you hear about Charlie Kirk's

[14:08] assassination?

[14:08] >> I don't think like celebrating someone's

[14:10] like death

[14:12] >> is like should ever be done.

[14:14] >> The question is, do you feel that you

[14:17] can safely speak your mind in America

[14:19] right now?

[14:19] >> No. I mean, I'm going to anyways, but

[14:21] it's not it's not looking safe. Do you

[14:23] think that's normal for a country like

[14:25] America that we should be afraid to use

[14:27] the number one amendment?

[14:28] >> No, it's not. It's quite a bummer. Quite

[14:30] disappointed in the country giving all

[14:32] of those up, getting rid of all those

[14:34] books in the libraries,

[14:36] the ISIS coming after anybody that you

[14:39] know. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, I guess not.

[14:42] >> We live in a country right now where you

[14:43] can be publicly assassinated for just

[14:45] sitting in a chair and speaking. Charlie

[14:47] Kirk was assassinated two weeks ago

[14:49] tomorrow and all he was doing was

[14:51] sitting in a chair and speaking his

[14:52] mind. trying to actually have

[14:53] conversation. Do you condemn that he was

[14:56] murdered that way?

[14:56] >> Yeah. Yeah. He was just sitting and and

[14:58] talking, right? I mean, listen, I don't

[15:00] I don't particularly agree with the guy,

[15:02] but

[15:03] >> that's okay. You don't have to. I don't

[15:04] have to agree with all of these people

[15:06] who go and march in the streets about

[15:08] free Palestine. But am I going to say

[15:10] that they shouldn't be able to do that?

[15:11] No.

[15:12] >> No. I mean, I think the biggest problem

[15:13] in our country right now is that we're

[15:15] just not talking to each other. I think

[15:16] free speech is super important, but I do

[15:18] feel like when it gets into the area of

[15:21] hate speech, that's different. And I do

[15:24] feel like, not that Charlie Kirk should

[15:25] have been killed for what he said,

[15:27] regardless of it being hate speech or

[15:29] freedom of speech or whatever, but I do

[15:31] feel like freedom of speech like does

[15:33] have a degree to it still. Like when

[15:35] it's like spreading false information.

[15:37] >> Well, that's what Jimmy Kimmel did,

[15:38] right? He said he said that the that the

[15:39] shooter was a MAGA Republican and he's

[15:41] and he's not. and like saying things as

[15:42] if they're like scientific facts that

[15:44] are simply untrue and like spreading

[15:46] further like stereotypes and false

[15:48] information about different minority

[15:49] groups and like that's just not okay.

[15:52] >> I think if that's the case, it should be

[15:53] it should be happening on all sides of

[15:55] the political spectrum and the culture

[15:56] war. I think I think Democrats and

[15:58] progressives lie a lot about a lot of

[16:00] [ __ ] too, right? They lie about me. They

[16:01] say I'm transphobic and racist and all

[16:03] this [ __ ] They say she's a [ __ ]

[16:05] >> Everybody's social media is catered to

[16:07] like what you believe in. And so it's

[16:08] kind of hard to create conversation and

[16:10] then the divide gets like fatter and

[16:12] fatter. It's like impossible to see the

[16:14] other side and that creates like this

[16:16] really really really unreasonable rage

[16:19] which is a bummer and it leads to

[16:21] violence like that. But what I do care

[16:23] about is that we all treat each other

[16:25] with respect that we see each other for

[16:28] our humanity. And I think we're really

[16:30] being divided. And I think that the

[16:32] media uses things like this, even if

[16:34] it's wrong,

[16:36] to further divide us. And the fact that

[16:39] I don't have enough information,

[16:41] literally proves that. You started this

[16:43] interview saying, "I'm happy that he

[16:46] died." Can you look me in the face and

[16:49] say that you'd be happy if I died?

[16:50] Because I agreed with about 99% of what

[16:53] Charlie agreed with. You know, can you

[16:55] look me in the face and say that?

[16:56] >> I wouldn't be. How could you say that

[16:58] about Charlie? Because it's the internet

[17:00] and I don't know him and people make

[17:01] memes and it's funny

[17:02] >> and that's the reason why people like

[17:04] Charlie and people like Savannah and I

[17:05] are doing these types of videos and we

[17:07] get a lot of [ __ ] for we get a lot of

[17:08] hate but because we are literally in a

[17:10] way I guess forcing people to rehumanize

[17:12] us

[17:13] >> and like are having a hard time

[17:14] humanizing whatever side they're not on,

[17:16] >> right? To rehumanize people like you.

[17:18] Cuz 5 minutes ago you were all ra [ __ ]

[17:20] Charlie and now you're like wait a

[17:21] second like that's actually not a good

[17:23] idea, right? And it and it took all of 5

[17:25] minutes to get there which is insane

[17:26] >> I guess. So,

[17:27] >> and it would be just as wrong if

[17:29] somebody wanted to shoot you if you were

[17:31] gay, protrans, are you gay?

[17:34] >> Yes.

[17:34] >> Okay. It's just as wrong for somebody to

[17:37] murder you because they don't like gay

[17:40] people as it is. Exactly.

[17:42] >> I could agree with that.

[17:43] >> Where's mama?

[17:44] >> #ave gay. # save.

[17:46] >> Oh, we had a lot of amazing

[17:48] conversations today. Was surprised

[17:49] honestly that a few of them

[17:51] >> Yeah. with a few of them that not

[17:53] everybody on the left is just like,

[17:55] "Yeah, you should have died." And we

[17:57] also saw that a lot of that is true and

[17:59] that is really scary. And I want you to

[18:00] know that this isn't just a New York

[18:02] City. This is your neighbor. This is

[18:04] somebody that you go to church with.

[18:05] Probably has that same mindset.

[18:06] >> I also think it makes a lot of sense

[18:08] that we have to hire a security guard

[18:10] like Mario, who's amazing, by the way.

[18:11] Follow him on his Instagram down below.

[18:13] We have to hire him when we go to these,

[18:15] you know, usual leftwing campuses and

[18:17] stuff like that. But like if I were to

[18:18] go to like the RNC, like I don't I feel

[18:20] like I wouldn't need to hire somebody.

[18:22] The people on the left usually say the

[18:24] opposite. If you want to go check out

[18:25] her channel, go. It's going to be a link

[18:26] in the description below. Subscribe to

[18:28] both of us cuz we both make amazing

[18:29] content. And if you enjoyed the video,

[18:31] give it a big thumbs up because it helps

[18:32] us continue to do what we think the

[18:35] right thing is, which I think you agree

[18:36] with. So show us. I'll see you guys next

[18:39] time. Bye.