Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson Will Destroy Ben Shapiro

[00:01] If you're new to this, if you were

[00:03] watching

[00:05] Amfest 2025 and wondering what the

[00:08] hell's going on here, who are these

[00:11] people? Does anybody agree on anything?

[00:14] Does anybody remember Charlie Kirk? What

[00:17] is this? And who is this Ben Shapiro?

[00:21] Now, for for some of us, we know exactly

[00:24] who he is, but there's a lot of young

[00:26] folks out there and folks who are maybe

[00:28] getting into this particular fay who

[00:31] want to know what the hell's going on.

[00:34] Who are these people? That's where I

[00:37] come in and that's where I can help

[00:39] because I have a very, very simple take

[00:41] on this. Very, very simple, very

[00:43] nononsense, very specific. Let's

[00:46] simplify the issues here

[00:49] because here is the uncomfortable truth,

[00:51] my dear fellow patriots and lovers of

[00:53] liberty that many in conservative media

[00:56] in particular whisper off camera, don't

[00:58] say. They don't want to talk about this,

[01:00] but they avoid saying because they're

[01:02] afraid. And why they're afraid, I have

[01:06] no idea.

[01:08] Ben Shapiro is not defending the

[01:13] conservative movement or whatever it is

[01:15] that you call this. And I admit right

[01:18] off the bat, I don't know if this is to

[01:20] me, it's just a it's just truth. I'm not

[01:23] a conservative or a liberal or a

[01:25] Democrat or Republican. I I I have and

[01:27] and you you may very well be in that

[01:29] position too where these labels don't

[01:31] really apply. But for purposes of just

[01:34] this, for purposes of just shorthand,

[01:37] let's call it conservative just so that

[01:39] we don't have to keep going back and re

[01:41] rephrasing this.

[01:44] Ben Shapiro is freezing it in in amber.

[01:48] It's like concrete, concretizing,

[01:51] oifying it, calcifying it. He's not

[01:54] preserving its integrity.

[01:57] He's hollowing it out

[02:00] while insisting and this is the part

[02:03] insisting that he alone he alone owns

[02:07] the brand and he alone is leading the

[02:10] movement.

[02:12] Whatever the movement is, he is

[02:15] selfappointed.

[02:17] Why? Because because he's Ben Shapiro

[02:20] and he's going to finagle his way in

[02:22] there. And the bottom line is, please,

[02:27] with all due respect, if you think the

[02:29] next generation finds him attractive and

[02:32] his message and is sniping,

[02:36] trashing Tucker and Candace Owens

[02:41] and I guess Megan Kelly, I mean,

[02:43] everybody's wrong but him. What are you

[02:45] nuts?

[02:47] And and a word to TPUSA, what are you

[02:50] doing?

[02:52] I mean, is is there any continuity?

[02:56] And again, this isn't about Erica Kirk

[02:59] at all, but but does she does does she

[03:01] know what she's walking into?

[03:04] Do you let everybody speak? Let me tell

[03:07] you, there have been some great fire

[03:09] brands. Candace, not there, of course.

[03:11] Tucker, Bannon, listen to them. Megan,

[03:14] even Megan's kind of Megan is about

[03:18] Megan. Bless her heart. She's not a

[03:20] She's Look, she's PM magazine. She's

[03:24] not, you know, she's she's not a a

[03:26] heavyweight. She's good, very smart, but

[03:28] she's not in for the war.

[03:31] You know this, right? And and that that

[03:33] that that's not Look, that's not meant

[03:36] to be mean, but we have to be honest,

[03:38] okay? This is not about hurt feelings or

[03:41] being polite.

[03:44] Charlie Kirk would have been furious

[03:47] watching what happened. This is this is

[03:50] and and please this is not about Israel

[03:53] or the Middle East or Trump or or

[03:56] anything. It's not about anti-semitism.

[03:58] It's about truth. And anyone still

[04:01] pretending otherwise is either lying or

[04:05] hopelessly confused.

[04:08] I don't understand this Middle East

[04:11] connection to this. That is not in any

[04:14] way a statement as to the severity, the

[04:17] importance, the criticality, the

[04:19] necessity of finding an answer to the

[04:22] Middle. We're not talking about that.

[04:24] It's not about Russia. It's not about

[04:25] Ukraine. It's not about NATO. It's not

[04:28] about a lot of things. It's about a

[04:32] particular very specifically defined

[04:34] mission. This is about power control and

[04:38] relevance and a man whose entire act

[04:43] belongs to some other political era. Ben

[04:46] Shapiro is an anacronism.

[04:50] He's disco in a grunge decade. He's he's

[04:54] he's new coke. He's water world. He's my

[04:58] mother the car. He boy a ask your your

[05:02] parents about that. He's he's I I I mean

[05:04] he's vaudeville. He's he's once

[05:07] dominant, once useful, now painfully

[05:10] painfully out of sync with the moment

[05:14] because what is he doing? He recognizes

[05:16] the fact that his legacy, his important,

[05:18] and his his statement. It's all gone.

[05:20] And he's panicking,

[05:23] panicking the same way Piers Morgan and

[05:25] others are panicking by going after

[05:28] Candace Owens. It's out of jealousy.

[05:30] It's incredible. So, let me say this

[05:33] again. They have nothing to say about

[05:36] our movement. They have nothing to say

[05:39] about the interstitial

[05:42] tenets, the the the code that we're

[05:45] trying to maintain. To them, it's about

[05:48] numbers and popularity and who's sexy

[05:50] and who's not. And like every legacy

[05:52] figure who senses the the ground

[05:55] shifting beneath him,

[05:57] Ben Shapiro is grasping for control by

[06:02] sabotaging those actually moving the

[06:06] needle and moving the movement forward.

[06:10] Charlie Kirk understands something that

[06:12] Ben Shapiro never did, never would, and

[06:16] apparently never can. Politics is not a

[06:20] seminar. It's not a law school debate.

[06:24] It's not a performance of cleverness and

[06:28] speedtalking. You notice that? Let's

[06:30] speak quickly. Let's speak as fast as we

[06:33] can and hope to God that nobody figures

[06:35] out that we don't know what the hell

[06:36] we're talking about.

[06:39] It's it's it's not some it's not some

[06:41] game, some competition for applause from

[06:44] donors and and think tank panels. It is

[06:48] a machine. Politics is a machine and

[06:51] it's it's turnout, it's energy, it's

[06:53] coalition, and it's about winning. It's

[06:55] a movement. And above all, it's about

[06:57] momentum and authenticity. And Charlie

[07:00] built momentum. And kids in particular

[07:03] knew that. I don't know who's running

[07:05] the show now, but they need to, as we

[07:08] say in the media world, blow it up.

[07:11] Start from scratch. And Erica, this is

[07:14] for you.

[07:16] You better take control of this because

[07:17] they're going to destroy your husband's

[07:20] legacy. And mark my words and you know

[07:22] it and everybody knows it. They're going

[07:24] to push you out. They're going to push

[07:27] you out and out of the way because you

[07:30] get in the way of this. You get in the

[07:32] way of their message. And who are they?

[07:34] Ben Shapiro.

[07:37] Ben's never understood this. Ben has

[07:39] nothing to do with winning people. He

[07:43] wants to destroy. He wants to attack.

[07:45] Okay, that's fine. I'm looking at

[07:47] somebody 18, 19 year old, somebody who

[07:50] is going to be the future of our

[07:53] movement. Again, we're still trying to

[07:54] figure out what the definition of that

[07:56] is. Ben Shapiro's entire career is based

[07:59] on negation. He's against things. He's

[08:04] against the left. He's against free

[08:07] thinking. He's against campus radicals.

[08:10] He's against bad arguments. He's against

[08:12] hypotheticals. He's against straw men

[08:16] that conveniently fit inside a 15minute

[08:20] monologue. What is he for? What's his

[08:23] world view? He doesn't build. He doesn't

[08:26] He doesn't construct. He critiques. He

[08:29] criticizes. He attacks. He

[08:31] cross-examines. He doesn't mobilize. He

[08:34] scolds.

[08:35] And he doesn't inspire. Listen to what

[08:37] I'm saying.

[08:39] TPUSA,

[08:41] what are you doing?

[08:44] Did you make any fans with him? You just

[08:48] threw Tucker and Candace under the bus

[08:52] with for do you know what he's going to

[08:54] say? This guy lectures. Charlie Kirk

[08:58] built an army of young people who

[09:01] actually show up. And let me say

[09:03] something. If you remember one thing

[09:04] that I'm saying, remember this. Charlie

[09:07] talked about inclusion. He talked to

[09:08] anybody. Come on in. Let's talk. You've

[09:11] got purple hair and you've got a pronoun

[09:14] nobody can pronounce and you've got the

[09:16] you got this booger jewelry or what?

[09:18] Fine. You've got you're a they then

[09:20] whatever. Fine. We'll talk inclusion.

[09:24] What does Ben say? Get out. Deep

[09:26] deprogram. Throttle. Shut them up.

[09:29] Stovepipe them. Demonetize. Deplatform.

[09:33] Get rid of Candace. Get rid of Tucker.

[09:35] This is what he's saying at Charlie

[09:37] Kirk's organization.

[09:40] It blows my mind.

[09:44] And and and what what I'm hearing and

[09:46] everybody else is hearing is that we're

[09:48] wondering who was running this show at

[09:51] Talking Points.

[09:53] This this is I mean this this Afest.

[09:56] What was this?

[09:58] This is critical. I can't say it enough.

[10:01] Charlie Kirk built an army of young

[10:03] people who show up who appreciate his

[10:06] honesty and his good naturatured. He

[10:08] talked about he talked about marriage.

[10:11] He talked about the Bible. He talked

[10:13] about Christian values. That's right.

[10:14] Christian values. I'm going to say it.

[10:17] Piers Morgan that hack. He was the one

[10:20] by the way yelling at Nick Fuentes.

[10:23] Whatever you say about Nick, you're

[10:25] entitled to your opinion. But they're

[10:26] calling us some incel, some virgin. And

[10:29] it's like, "Hey, schmuck, don't you

[10:30] understand?" His religion believes in

[10:34] not having sex before you're married.

[10:38] Would you honor that? I love this

[10:40] selective honoring. Some religions are

[10:42] honored, others aren't.

[10:45] And the difference we're talking about

[10:46] matters more than ideology. It matters

[10:49] more than theology. And it matters more

[10:52] than foreign policy disputes and middle

[10:55] east problems. Not that they're not

[10:58] important, but that's not what this is

[11:00] about.

[11:01] Because movements do not survive

[11:05] on correct opinions alone. They survive

[11:08] on people, you and me, who believe that

[11:12] we and they are all part of something

[11:14] larger than ourselves.

[11:17] Ben Shapiro has never ever ever made

[11:21] anyone feel that way. His affect, his

[11:24] demeanor is hostile. His voice is

[11:28] grading shrill. His cadence is is is

[11:32] taxing,

[11:33] exhausting. His posture is permanently

[11:37] consistently adversarial. He sounds like

[11:40] a hall monitor scolding you. You know,

[11:44] reading charges like torque reading the

[11:46] indictment. He looks like someone who

[11:48] can't understand why the party has

[11:50] started without him. Can you imagine

[11:53] this? this countenance, this affect

[11:57] it, bringing in young people who are

[12:00] confused, who who he does he think he's

[12:04] Charlie's successor. Every appearance

[12:06] feels like like some kind of

[12:08] intellectual chemotherapy, like some

[12:10] corrective memo. Every disagreement he

[12:13] has becomes some moral indictment. I'm

[12:16] right, they're wrong.

[12:18] Ignore

[12:21] Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens if you

[12:24] don't like them. Every time you mention

[12:28] their name, you elevate them. They

[12:30] become forbidden fruit. You only take

[12:32] flack when you're over the target. Don't

[12:33] you know this by now? And the reason why

[12:36] he doesn't is that he doesn't have a

[12:38] world view. He doesn't have a message.

[12:42] He's like anti-atter.

[12:45] Remember in uh the SevenUp commercial,

[12:48] the Uncola? Yeah, I'm dating myself with

[12:51] these 60s references. 70s. Look, every

[12:54] question from him is treated as an

[12:57] ambush. You know, that worked once. That

[12:59] was cute then. It doesn't work anymore.

[13:01] It doesn't work now. The conservative

[13:04] movement or whatever this thing is has

[13:06] changed. The rules have changed. The

[13:09] audience has changed. The sensibility

[13:11] has changed. The audience wants to hear

[13:13] something new, hope, something good. And

[13:15] the country has changed. And Trump

[13:18] changed it. And Charlie Cook understood

[13:19] that. Remember Charlie Cook. Kirk, let

[13:22] me tell you, this guy was MAGA. This

[13:24] guy's Trump. Whether you like it or not,

[13:26] it was important. That doesn't mean he

[13:27] likes everything he does. But nobody

[13:30] don't ever think that you always have to

[13:33] believe in everything that Candace Owens

[13:35] ever said or Tucker ever said from day

[13:39] one. This is ridiculous.

[13:41] And what do they do with her and with

[13:43] him? They're crazy. Oh, you and you're

[13:45] crazy. Oh, you and you you think what?

[13:48] That there's there's evil forces out

[13:50] there. You think that there's evil

[13:51] forces? People who come out and that

[13:53] could actually be targeting her or

[13:56] somebody for harm? They just

[13:57] assassinated Charlie Kirk. What are you?

[14:01] Yes,

[14:02] that's a conspiracy. And if you believe

[14:05] if you believe this story they're giving

[14:07] you, good luck. Good luck. Nobody buys

[14:11] that. Charlie Kirk understood all of

[14:14] that. Candace Owens understands that.

[14:17] Tucker Carlson understands that. Ben

[14:19] Shapiro does not. He's from another

[14:23] planet, some parallel universe. And

[14:27] because he doesn't understand it, he's

[14:30] trying to break it. Watch the pattern.

[14:34] Watch. When Candace Owens challenges,

[14:38] we used to call them sacred cows, but I

[14:40] don't know if we still do anymore, but

[14:43] Ben Shapiro doesn't doesn't uh debate

[14:46] her at all.

[14:50] He insinuates, he smears, he targets, he

[14:54] excoriates, he execrates, he lets his

[14:57] audience infer moral failure rather than

[15:00] confront her arguments directly.

[15:04] It's just incredible when Tucker

[15:06] questions foreign entanglements.

[15:08] Remember that? My generation.

[15:13] It was the Vietnam War. Our music, our

[15:16] culture,

[15:17] that's as American as anything else. Ben

[15:20] Shapiro doesn't engage in the substance.

[15:22] He questions motives.

[15:24] He hints at darkness and he he he

[15:27] attempts to what what would you say?

[15:29] Weaponize accusation. I mean, he is he's

[15:32] a onetrick pony. Look, you know it and I

[15:34] know it. So, why is TPUSA involving this

[15:38] guy? Why? This isn't conservatism. This

[15:41] is gatekeeping. And Charlie Kirk

[15:43] despised gatekeeping. Charlie Kirk

[15:47] believed in expansion,

[15:50] in coalition, in populism, in bringing

[15:54] in people, bringing people together,

[15:56] including inclusion

[15:59] people who did not speak the language

[16:01] perfectly, but understood the stakes

[16:03] instinctively.

[16:05] He believed America first meant

[16:09] Americans decide American policy. You

[16:12] got a problem with that? You got a

[16:14] problem with that, huh? Do you? Because

[16:18] that's the message. Period. Not about

[16:21] donors, not think tanks, not foreign

[16:23] government, not ideological purity, none

[16:26] of that stuff. We're not talking about

[16:28] shadow government. We're not talking

[16:30] about that, you know, globalist

[16:33] war profiteering. No, no, no, no. Ben

[16:36] Shapiro believes, I guess, that

[16:39] conservatism is something you earn

[16:41] permission to speak. You're granted

[16:43] permission. I'm sorry. You you we have

[16:46] not you have not passed our test. That

[16:49] is the core conflict. And you listen to

[16:51] me and you listen good, my dear friend.

[16:53] Whenever tell whenever somebody tells

[16:54] you not to listen to somebody, I've

[16:56] never told you ever don't listen to him.

[16:58] No, please listen to him. I insist

[17:02] because you know I'm right when you

[17:03] listen to him.

[17:06] I've never I've never cut people. I I

[17:08] don't you know Piers Morgan block oh I

[17:11] mean don't look I don't lose any sleep

[17:13] but on Twitter Piers Morgan David Crosby

[17:16] Alec Baldwin and people I don't even

[17:18] know Piers Morgan Mr. Uninterrupted or

[17:21] uncensored or whatever it was. What's

[17:23] the matter with these people?

[17:26] I don't do that. I ignore them and I

[17:29] never want them shut down. I want

[17:31] everybody to speak to say whatever they

[17:33] want.

[17:34] It is not Israel first versus America

[17:38] first. It's not Christian Zionism versus

[17:40] realism. It's not that is not in any way

[17:43] an invalidation of the ideology. It's

[17:47] about this particular realm visa v us.

[17:50] Period. Remember we are not this

[17:54] argument is not this discussion. It's

[17:56] not about Russia, Putin,

[17:59] Zalinski,

[18:01] Crimea,

[18:02] NATO, the Soviet Union.

[18:06] It's not even it's not about any of

[18:08] that. And what they've done is what

[18:10] Shapiro and other people have done is

[18:12] they've created this world that remember

[18:14] you you know how this thing is. I don't

[18:16] have to tell you this. If you say

[18:17] something about black people, it's

[18:19] racism. If you say something about

[18:20] trans, it's transphobia. If you say

[18:23] something about, you know, I wonder if

[18:25] maybe the 911 stories, you're a

[18:27] conspiracy theorist. See what they do.

[18:29] And if you say anything, ask any

[18:32] questions about anything involving the

[18:35] Middle East that has not been approved

[18:37] by Ben Shapiro, you're an anti-semite.

[18:40] You're subject to hate and you've got to

[18:42] be disqualified and deplatformed.

[18:47] Wait, we're done with that. Nobody's

[18:49] believing this. He doesn't know this

[18:51] because he's grasping for this. Don't

[18:53] you understand? He's losing control.

[18:55] This is not theology versus secularism.

[18:59] It's centralized control versus

[19:04] distributed energy and representation.

[19:06] It's an old guard

[19:08] that mistakes credentials for

[19:11] leadership. leadership confronting a

[19:14] generation, a generation of new folks

[19:18] that we need to get to who measure

[19:20] success in victories, not applause or

[19:24] likes or metrics. Charlie Kirk delivered

[19:27] victories. Ben Shapiro delivers podcast,

[19:30] which is fine. Nothing wrong with that.

[19:33] And that may sound harsh to some, but

[19:35] it's true. Truth hurts. Remember, the

[19:39] truth is what gets you in trouble, not

[19:40] lies. the truth. You know, one builds

[19:45] institutions that win elections. The

[19:47] other the other builds a brand that

[19:51] monetizes commentary, which is fine, and

[19:54] dispute and dismay and disruption. And

[19:57] those are not the same thing. See, they

[19:59] don't serve the same purpose. Oh, no,

[20:02] no, no, no. And when and when the

[20:04] movement

[20:06] when the movement must choose between

[20:08] them, the choice becomes obvious.

[20:11] Charlie Kirk was dangerous, dangerous to

[20:14] the establishment

[20:17] because he produced something they

[20:19] couldn't produce, results. And that's

[20:21] why they killed him.

[20:23] He turned young voters. He inspired

[20:25] them. He built ground operations. He

[20:28] delivered turnout.

[20:30] He changed the map. That is why he was

[20:34] attacked. And that's why his legacy is

[20:37] being destroyed by people like Ben

[20:40] Shapiro who want to grab the control. If

[20:43] you want to grab the control, not with

[20:44] this guy, not with this guy. I mean, if

[20:48] you can't if they look, you know what?

[20:49] Continue with him. Go ahead. I don't

[20:51] know who is attract I I don't know who

[20:53] he's luring into this. He's he's playing

[20:55] to the crowd. See, that's that's that's

[20:58] why he was undermined. That's why

[21:00] figures like like Ben Shapiro resented

[21:02] Charlie. That's why they took him out.

[21:04] resentment and jealousy. That's the

[21:06] hidden engine here. Don't believe me.

[21:09] These people have never in their lives

[21:12] ever been in a position where they're

[21:15] Sometimes popularity will get them. Hey,

[21:17] I'm okay. I'm cool. I'm,

[21:20] you know, Cash Patel. Hey, I got a

[21:22] girlfriend. Hey, look at me. Hey, I'm

[21:23] I'm attractive. Hey, I'm You know, it's

[21:25] it's weird. Hey, I'm I'm famous. I've

[21:28] seen this in talk radio. All of a

[21:29] sudden, somebody gets a radio show. This

[21:31] is the old days. And they feel delic.

[21:32] They feelacular. I'm I'm the oral at

[21:35] Deli. Listen to me. I'm I'm a voice. No,

[21:38] you're not. It's that it's everybody

[21:41] wants to be the next Rush Limbbo. And

[21:43] that even saying that shows my age. Ben

[21:46] Shapiro has always wanted to be

[21:49] ostensibly the intellectual leader of I

[21:51] guess conservatism. Again, that label,

[21:54] but intellectual leadership in

[21:56] particular doesn't belong to the

[21:58] smartest person in the room

[22:01] necessarily. It belongs to the person

[22:05] people follow. If you are unattractive

[22:09] intellectually,

[22:12] spiritually, socially, ideologically,

[22:15] doesn't matter how smart you are. And

[22:17] the people are not following Ben Shapiro

[22:21] anymore. They're following Charlie and

[22:25] Charlie's legacy and Candice and Tucker.

[22:29] And let me also tell you something.

[22:32] You better do everything in your power

[22:35] if you want to stop be uh uh Nick

[22:37] Fuentes, if that's your thing.

[22:40] Stop creating the monster you want to

[22:43] stop. You're making him to be again

[22:46] forbidden fruit. You're making him you

[22:49] you you're creating his popularity. They

[22:51] don't even know how to do this. It's

[22:53] called ignoring an indifference.

[22:56] People today are following Tucker.

[22:58] People are following Candace. You don't

[22:59] understand this. Did you hear Did you

[23:02] hear the applause?

[23:04] And don't don't ever ever rule out

[23:07] Bannon. And don't ever rule out Alex

[23:10] Jones. Ever.

[23:13] Okay. Those folks were following Trump.

[23:17] Ben couldn't stand Trump. He was I mean

[23:20] this guy,

[23:21] he just absolutely

[23:26] he was all over the place. He was

[23:29] slippery and slimy and oh my god, it was

[23:33] the most incredible thing I've ever seen

[23:34] in my life. Where where did he come

[23:35] from? Where honest to God, where does he

[23:38] where does he come from?

[23:41] How does he think anybody's going to

[23:42] find this at all interesting or or or or

[23:46] sincere? It's it's protein. It's it

[23:50] changes.

[23:53] So when Ben gets into problems, he

[23:55] reverts to what he knows.

[23:57] delegitimization,

[23:59] demonization, moral framing, liable,

[24:02] defamation, accusation by implication,

[24:05] please. [cough] And and treaties for

[24:09] dismissal. The same tactic legacy media

[24:12] uses all the time. The same tactic the

[24:14] left uses. Dress it up as concern,

[24:18] call it responsibility, but the actual

[24:21] function is always the same. control

[24:24] the boundaries.

[24:27] Control the boundaries of acceptable and

[24:29] permissible thought. And Charlie Kirk

[24:31] broke through those boundaries.

[24:34] He refused refused to accept that

[24:38] conservatism

[24:41] had to be polite. He refused to accept

[24:44] that it had to be differential. He

[24:47] refused to accept that foreign policy

[24:50] was off limits.

[24:52] He refused

[24:56] to accept that donors outranked voters.

[25:00] He couldn't be bought. He absolutely

[25:04] absolutely refused to accept that

[25:08] that questioning alliances was either

[25:10] anti-semitic or immoral or something

[25:12] along those lines. That refusal

[25:15] terrified people, people whose authority

[25:18] depended on unquestioned assumptions and

[25:21] obeisance. Ben Shapiro's model, if you

[25:25] can call it, requires fixed beliefs and

[25:29] axioms. Certain topics cannot be

[25:32] challenged. Certain subjects cannot be

[25:34] brought up. Certain premises cannot be

[25:36] questioned. Certain figures cannot be

[25:39] criticized. The moment the moment those

[25:42] axioms collapse, the moment the emperor

[25:46] is observed to be not wearing any

[25:48] clothes, his authority collapses with

[25:51] him. And that is why his responses feel

[25:53] panicked and and and and frenetic. That

[25:57] is why his tone is always brittle and

[25:59] harsh and screeching. That is why his

[26:01] attacks feel personal because they are.

[26:03] It's not because it's not because

[26:05] Candace Owens or or or Tucker or the

[26:07] legacy of of of Charlie are wrong. Oh,

[26:11] not even close. It's because they're

[26:13] uncontrollable

[26:15] and he can't control them. He He doesn't

[26:18] He doesn't fit in. He's an anacronism.

[26:21] Charlie Kirk empowered uncontrollable

[26:24] people. He created them. That's why his

[26:27] absence matters so much. That's why it

[26:29] still stings.

[26:31] Not not because of symbolism but because

[26:34] of the vacuum that was created. And let

[26:36] me tell you something. Vacuums invite

[26:38] predators. So watch carefully. Watch

[26:41] carefully. Erica, pay attention. Ben

[26:44] Shapiro will attempt to move into that

[26:47] vacuum.

[26:48] He will speak of unity. He will warn of

[26:51] division. Be careful. He will claim, you

[26:55] know, maturity. But he will insist that

[26:58] the movement must be careful,

[27:00] responsible, respectable, be careful,

[27:02] and I'll determine what those mean.

[27:05] Those words always mean the same things.

[27:08] Slow down, sit down, shut up, and let

[27:10] the adults talk. We don't need you

[27:12] anymore. Just keep contributing. We're

[27:15] in charge. Charlie Kirk never waited for

[27:17] permission. He understood from the

[27:20] get-go the again this conservative

[27:24] movement, whatever you want to call it,

[27:26] doesn't survive

[27:28] by appeasing or plating critics. It

[27:31] survives by energizing its base and

[27:34] expanding it. And that requires, my dear

[27:36] friend, risk. And it requires sometimes

[27:39] friction and going against the grain. It

[27:42] requires allowing uncomfortable

[27:45] conversations to happen in public. Ben

[27:47] Shapiro cannot tolerate that. He cannot

[27:51] abide that. He can't handle that. His

[27:54] entire persona is built around control.

[28:00] Control of frame of the frame, control

[28:02] of the optics, control of the language,

[28:03] control of of the acceptable acceptable

[28:06] range of of of conclusions. You can

[28:09] think this, this, and this. That's why

[28:11] he sounds always perpetually irritated

[28:14] and pissed off. the world will not stay

[28:18] inside his outline. And he again goes

[28:21] after Tucker,

[28:23] saying out loud what millions already

[28:26] believe. This is Tucker. He glassashes

[28:29] at Candace for refusing to apologize. He

[28:33] attacks and lashes and berates

[28:36] anyone who disrupts his narrative that

[28:40] he is given and the equilibrium that

[28:42] he's given. Don't think for a moment

[28:44] he's not, this isn't his idea. He is

[28:47] told what to do. This is the official.

[28:51] This is these are the minutes of the

[28:52] meeting.

[28:54] And in doing so, he reveals the truth.

[28:57] He is not the future of conservatism.

[29:03] Afest TPUSA get it through your head. He

[29:06] is the past claiming clinging to some

[29:09] kind of relevance. Charlie Kirk believed

[29:10] the moment and the movement really

[29:12] belonged to the people, young people who

[29:15] showed up. I keep saying young, young,

[29:16] young young because that's the future.

[29:18] Not the people who talked the most, not

[29:19] the people who clamored and yammered.

[29:21] Not the people with the cleanest

[29:22] resumes, but the people who organized,

[29:24] the people who actually showed up and

[29:25] did something, the people who voted, the

[29:27] people who believed in change, the

[29:28] people who believed in something, the

[29:29] people who who recognized and believed

[29:31] in authenticity, and the people who

[29:32] knocked on doors and took heat and

[29:34] refused to back down. That's what he

[29:37] stood for. Ben Shapiro hasn't been one

[29:40] of those people ever. Ever.

[29:43] He's a hack. He's an observer who

[29:46] mistook again commentary and this rapid

[29:49] fire celebrity speech for some kind of

[29:52] leadership and intellect. And he's he's

[29:53] a very smart man, don't get me wrong. Oh

[29:55] yes. And now that the movement has

[29:57] outgrown him, he's trying to pull it

[29:59] back. He's freaking out. Pull it back

[30:01] into some kind of a box that fits his

[30:03] ego. But it will not work.

[30:06] I'm telling you,

[30:08] Erica, pay attention. This movement is

[30:12] not a debate club. It's not a podcast

[30:15] network. Dan Bonino is going to find

[30:17] that out. It's not a donor dinner. It's

[30:20] a it's a living thing. It's vibrant.

[30:23] It's messy and it's loud and it's

[30:25] inconsistent and it's populous and above

[30:27] all it's intolerant of condescension.

[30:30] It hates that. Charlie Kirk knew that.

[30:34] Charlie Kirk, his legacy will live live

[30:37] on. Ben Shapiro never got that. He still

[30:40] doesn't. And for him to go at Afest and

[30:43] call out these people in front of the

[30:46] tonedeaf clueless. That's why history

[30:48] will remember Charlie, Charlie Kirk is a

[30:50] builder and Ben Shapiro as a footnote

[30:54] and he knows that not because of

[30:56] ideology, not because of any particular

[30:57] country, not because of the Middle East,

[30:59] but because of theology

[31:01] and intellectual theology, not Urswell

[31:04] and the theology of thinking,

[31:07] of rational thinking, of critical

[31:08] thinking. That's our religion. Critical

[31:11] thinking, enthusiasm, authenticity.

[31:15] Let me tell you something. This is the

[31:16] most important thing in the world and

[31:18] I've said enough and I think you know

[31:19] that

[31:21] my friends please focus on what's

[31:24] happening right now. This is I want you

[31:26] to know I can't say enough about this. I

[31:31] see the clearest opportunity for those

[31:33] of us in our world to make a difference,

[31:37] to inspire, to recruit, to um proilitize

[31:42] in a good way and bring on board a lot

[31:45] of people like you and me who believe in

[31:47] something, who believe in the country,

[31:48] who believe in the faith, who believe in

[31:50] in truth. That's all. I thank you for

[31:53] your very kind comments. Thank you for

[31:56] your support. Thank you. I ask you, dear

[31:58] friends, to do me a favor. There are

[32:00] many of us out here, many you may not

[32:02] have heard before, but we're all, as a

[32:03] great Cam Fong as Chinho said on

[32:05] Hawaii50, we're all in this together,

[32:08] brother. And we're in this together.

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