[00:03] Let's get into it. Coach Colin here,
[00:06] Candace Owens, man.
[00:09] Turning Point insider goes graveling
[00:13] secretly privately to Candace Owens.
[00:16] Says, "Oh, please please forgive me."
[00:20] Privately
[00:21] does does the talking smack in public.
[00:25] make sure to go on one of the biggest
[00:26] podcasts to talk smack about her
[00:29] publicly.
[00:31] And then after everything's died down,
[00:34] where all the Turning Point inner circle
[00:36] can't see him, he sends a message. She
[00:39] sends an email real discreetly saying,
[00:42] "Hey, you know, I you know, really, oh,
[00:44] you know,
[00:46] and Candace,
[00:49] you're going to see Candace's reaction
[00:51] after I give you a little refresher on
[00:54] this person." Eric Bowling is on the
[00:57] podcast, Patrick Bed David's podcast
[01:00] twice to talk smack about Candace. I'm
[01:05] gonna show you the first appearance.
[01:06] Then I'm gonna show you the second
[01:08] appearance. Then I'm gonna show you what
[01:09] Candace had to say about the whole
[01:11] thing. And then I'm gonna show you the
[01:12] little victory lap that she took while
[01:14] she was on X. Let's get to it. And fair
[01:17] warning, you were about to see Adam from
[01:20] the Patrick Bed David podcast. I know a
[01:24] lot of people get upset. I warned you. I
[01:27] gave you fair warning. Here he is. Don't
[01:30] worry. It won't be that long. Just a
[01:32] couple literally two minutes. Don't
[01:34] worry. Relax. Relax.
[01:37] I believe me. I know. I know. But let's
[01:41] play this and then let's play the next
[01:42] clip.
[01:43] >> No. And throw it a bottle. No. Like for
[01:45] instance, the 150 million. I want to
[01:46] see. Show me.
[01:47] >> But the point is the point is there's
[01:49] none.
[01:49] >> I don't Well, that's why that's that's
[01:51] why I have a hard time. That's why I
[01:52] have a hard time.
[01:52] >> At some point her credibility, I mean,
[01:54] is going to go down the tubes because
[01:55] she needs to bring receipts.
[01:57] >> Bill Aman brought receipts. How long was
[01:59] that tweet?
[02:00] >> It's still going. I think
[02:01] >> he was there in the room. Andrew Kulovit
[02:03] was there in the room. You're
[02:06] >> huh? How long was that tweet? That's uh
[02:08] Adam's That's Adam's idea of proof, you
[02:12] know. T Candace brings actual receipts.
[02:14] Adam's like, "How long was that tweet?"
[02:16] Oh, man. I love it. I Adam, man.
[02:19] >> On the board of Turning Point.
[02:20] >> Yeah.
[02:20] >> Okay. When's the last time you saw
[02:22] Candace Owens
[02:24] >> in person?
[02:25] >> Yeah.
[02:25] >> 2015, 2016.
[02:27] >> Okay. Yeah.
[02:28] >> When's the last time she was at a
[02:29] Turning Point event?
[02:30] >> Not in many years.
[02:31] >> Okay. But so let's have good there's a
[02:34] there's
[02:37] no no question proof that Candace Owens
[02:40] is nothing has nothing to do she would
[02:43] be in in a perfect world if if they
[02:46] didn't have this what I already know was
[02:47] a is a very quiet breakup where she got
[02:50] too rabbit hole for him. She would be
[02:52] the logical heir to the TPUSA throne but
[02:56] she's not she's not even invited.
[02:58] >> Correct. So this is this is their divide
[03:00] is
[03:00] >> Wait a minute. not invited. Meaning
[03:01] meaning
[03:02] >> she's not even there.
[03:02] >> Yeah, she's not she's not one of the
[03:04] names that
[03:05] >> you don't think she'll be at the
[03:06] funeral.
[03:06] >> No, no, no. I mean to she doesn't speak
[03:09] at the events anymore.
[03:10] >> I mean you Erica Kirk I mean
[03:13] >> what is Erica Kirk's relationship with
[03:15] Candace at this point.
[03:16] >> Is there a relationship? I don't think
[03:17] so. I don't think
[03:18] >> Why do you think Why do you not think
[03:19] so?
[03:19] >> Because I live this world. I live in
[03:22] this world. Tell us.
[03:24] >> I I don't see them together. I don't
[03:25] think I think Candace has created a lane
[03:27] for herself that's in it's it's it's her
[03:30] own lane. She wants to go after
[03:31] Mcronone's husband or wife or whatever
[03:33] you want to call him. She wants I just I
[03:34] agree that I I think it's cheap that she
[03:37] is sparking this up like she knows
[03:39] something between, you know, something
[03:40] happened between Aman and and Charlie.
[03:42] For what reason?
[03:42] >> For say to me to
[03:45] >> me I think uh
[03:47] >> now I already uh covered this whole
[03:50] thing but I will just give you a
[03:52] breakdown of everything he said. He said
[03:54] she hasn't been around since 2015.
[03:57] Yeah, Mory Povich style. You said that
[04:00] Candace has not been around Charlie Kirk
[04:03] since 2015.
[04:05] That was a lie. Turns out the lie
[04:08] detector says she was at a Turning Point
[04:11] event in 2024
[04:13] and 2023.
[04:16] That was a lie. Okay. Uh, pretty much
[04:19] everything he said was just made up. the
[04:21] relationship between Candace and Erica,
[04:23] they actually followed each other. And I
[04:25] would think when people follow me and
[04:28] they're a creator, we end up talking.
[04:30] That's just how it works. Okay. So, if
[04:33] you lose your husband and someone has
[04:36] lost their really good friend and you
[04:38] follow each other, there's probably a
[04:40] message or two. So, to say that the
[04:42] relationship is nothing, not true. The
[04:44] quiet divorce part that Eric brought up,
[04:47] also not true. We already saw Candace
[04:50] produce receipts on this over and over
[04:51] and over again. And again, I have to
[04:54] apologize for Adam being on the screen.
[04:56] I know how much that hurts for a lot of
[04:58] you. We're going to play the next one.
[05:00] Adam is not in this clip. Okay, so
[05:04] please, please don't worry. It's going
[05:06] to be just fine. And I do apologize
[05:08] again for Adam being on the screen. All
[05:09] right, guys. There's three things I need
[05:11] you to do. Like, subscribe, and go check
[05:14] out the Patreon. That's it. Get back to
[05:16] the episode. spoke last time when we
[05:18] were on the podcast. Uh we talked about
[05:21] Candace Owens if you remember when the
[05:22] Candace Owens conversation came about
[05:24] and then I called you and I said, "Hey,
[05:25] Eric, people are asking questions about
[05:27] two items. One, the comment you you made
[05:29] about being on the board and the other
[05:30] one was a comment made about
[05:33] that Candace hadn't uh spoken at Turning
[05:37] Point USA for two years. I think you
[05:39] said that." And then uh uh the audience
[05:41] on send a message which was uh June of
[05:43] 2024
[05:44] you know 18 months or 14 months prior to
[05:46] you speaking. I know you responded to it
[05:48] on your channel but people want to see
[05:50] on you responding here as well. What do
[05:51] you have to say to the audience?
[05:52] >> So it remains. It's 2019. I was going
[05:54] from a show I was hosting in DC to a
[05:57] restaurant in just outside the DC area.
[05:59] I get a phone call. It's Charlie Kirk.
[06:01] He said Eric I'd love to have you on the
[06:02] board of Turning Point USA. It just you
[06:04] know it wasn't maybe a year or two of of
[06:06] its real gusto at the time. I said
[06:07] Charlie I love your vision. I'd love to
[06:09] do that. I've spoken and I was an
[06:11] advisory board member from 2019 to 2024
[06:14] 2024 ballpark early 24. And then I moved
[06:18] over to the honorary board. I'm still on
[06:19] their honorary board. So anyone who says
[06:22] like, "Oh, he's not on the board." No,
[06:23] I'm not on the actual day-to-day
[06:24] business of the board, but I'm the
[06:26] honorary board member after spending
[06:28] five years as an advisory board member.
[06:30] Clear that up. Walk past.
[06:31] >> So he wasn't actually on the board. Uh
[06:33] there is no honorary board, and if there
[06:36] is, he's not on it. and he was never on
[06:38] the board as well. Um, just things that
[06:41] he's just saying. Also, if you go on to
[06:43] the Turning Point website, I believe
[06:45] Candace Owens is actually still there on
[06:48] the website. So, she was on the website.
[06:51] She was listed as somebody of authority
[06:53] within Turning Point. Eric was never
[06:56] listed as someone uh of authority on at
[06:59] Turning Point. As far as the comment on
[07:01] Candace Pat, I I could have I think I
[07:03] said I hadn't seen her or she hadn't
[07:05] been a a speaker at TPUSA for a couple
[07:08] years and I was I guess I was mistaken.
[07:11] >> No, you said 2015. You said 2015. Couple
[07:13] years. It's kind of a couple years. It's
[07:15] a couple a couple of years, you know,
[07:17] >> because it was 18 months and I had
[07:19] forgotten about the 2024 event as I
[07:22] think she was pregnant. Anyway, they
[07:23] Candace Owens army let me know it. They
[07:26] were very upset and this was all
[07:27] stemming from kind of a back and forth I
[07:29] had with Adam about
[07:31] she was blaming is
[07:32] >> Philadelphia for Charlie Kirk's ass.
[07:34] >> Now here's the thing she he's saying
[07:37] Candace Owens army. It's not the army.
[07:40] It was just people. It's just people who
[07:42] were like oh like it wasn't all Candace
[07:44] fans. It just people. You say something
[07:46] that's not true. People just come out of
[07:49] the woodwork and they go okay that's
[07:50] that's not true. I just went to the
[07:52] website. I saw this. I just saw this
[07:54] video with her there. It's not just
[07:56] Candace. So, it's also people who are
[07:58] fans of Turning Point. People who watch
[08:01] Turning Point videos, they all remember
[08:03] they said, "Oh, wow. Candace is there
[08:05] and now you're saying she wasn't there."
[08:06] It's just people always trying to brand
[08:09] it as like, you know, they attacked me
[08:11] because of her. I mean, it's not really
[08:14] because I wasn't telling the truth. It
[08:16] was just because, you know, they, you
[08:18] know, you know how they are. You know
[08:20] how nutty those people are, right?
[08:23] >> Assassination. I just didn't think that
[08:24] was a fair assessment. And then turns
[08:26] out the next day she said it was the US
[08:29] government who assassinated Charlie
[08:31] Kirk. I have no axe to grind with
[08:32] Candace Owens or her fan base. That
[08:34] that's fine. I'm just living in the real
[08:36] world. A little bit little bit more
[08:37] reality uh based. I believe there are
[08:40] there are forces behind Charlie Kirk's
[08:42] assassination, but I don't think it's
[08:44] >> Philadelphia.
[08:46] >> Real. I'm pretty sure it's not. And I'm
[08:47] pretty sure it's not the US government.
[08:48] >> Who do you think it is? I mean,
[08:50] >> um, pretty sure it's not. Okay, sure.
[08:53] Why not? You know, we'll just leave it
[08:55] at that. That was Eric trying to go
[08:58] through, uh, you know, mumbling,
[09:00] stumbling. Is there a little bit? Oh,
[09:02] yeah. There was just this last point.
[09:04] Uh, then we're going to jump over to
[09:05] Candace's reaction to Eric actually
[09:08] apologizing. But, uh, they go from
[09:11] Candace is crazy. She's never been
[09:13] around. She doesn't know Charlie. She's
[09:15] not friends with Charlie. She doesn't
[09:16] talk to Erica to all of a sudden
[09:19] backtracking like you just saw in the
[09:21] last clip and then in this clip they're
[09:23] right along with Candace.
[09:25] >> Epicure.
[09:25] >> I listen [clears throat]
[09:27] where do we go from here? Yeah. Yes. I I
[09:29] I would agree with everything that
[09:31] >> you want to know who killed Charlie.
[09:32] Would you like to know who killed
[09:33] Charlie?
[09:33] >> I I I would like to get confirmation of
[09:36] who I believe killed Charlie. I did
[09:38] Patrick. We were sitting here what less
[09:40] than a week after Charlie was
[09:42] assassinated and that that text message
[09:44] between the the alleged assassin and his
[09:46] boyfriend or his lover spelled out
[09:49] exactly the detail of why he did it,
[09:51] where he did it, how long he's been
[09:52] planning it, they gave him
[09:54] because it was it was it just laid it
[09:57] out to to to slam the door on this guy
[09:59] for a murder conviction firing squad so
[10:02] so that the bigger, you know, brains and
[10:05] money behind the operation would never
[10:06] be discovered. I believe that to the
[10:08] bottom of my heart and I'm not generally
[10:09] a conspiracy guy. I just there the guy
[10:12] the old guy that goes down and says I
[10:13] shot him immediately like who has the
[10:15] wherewithal to do that and then the the
[10:16] the clown up front jumping around making
[10:19] himself There was just too many things
[10:21] that fell into place for it to be
[10:23] >> Yeah. The only guy that doesn't jump
[10:25] under a table when gunshots happen
[10:26] [clears throat]
[10:29] >> guy doesn't even believe it's one
[10:30] shooter anymore. What happened? What
[10:32] happened? Why you talking about this?
[10:33] Was a month ago he said this two months
[10:36] ago. So the from from this appearance
[10:38] when he was on the first time to the
[10:41] second appearance he turned he he's now
[10:44] a fan of Candace cuz he's saying the
[10:46] exact same thing that Candace is saying
[10:48] that we're all saying that it's just too
[10:50] much. It doesn't make any sense. So why
[10:53] talk smack about her to begin with? You
[10:55] know why? Because it's not about it's
[10:58] not about what Tyler did or didn't do.
[11:02] It's about who Candice is actually
[11:04] pointing at and allowing all of us to
[11:07] start thinking and start looking at.
[11:10] That's the reason he was there to talk
[11:12] smack. And it's very telling because he
[11:15] was clearly sent by turning point.
[11:19] He didn't jump on when do you ever see
[11:21] this guy on Patrick Bed David's podcast?
[11:24] He was sent there by Turning Point to
[11:27] put out that type of narrative. And then
[11:31] in regular, as we know now, in regular
[11:34] Turning Point fashion, when something
[11:36] when something gets backlash, when
[11:39] something backfires, they just show up
[11:41] and they go, "H, they give this weird
[11:42] explanation that doesn't really make any
[11:44] sense. They don't really apologize. They
[11:46] don't really take anything back, but
[11:48] they try to walk back and change their
[11:50] opinion while their previous opinion
[11:53] still exists. There's no apology
[11:54] whatsoever, and it just makes them look
[11:56] worse than they did before. That's all
[11:58] this ended up doing. So, let's move on.
[12:02] Candace Owens breathing fire upon this
[12:05] man. I don't think we're going to see
[12:07] this guy on the Patrick Bed David
[12:09] podcast again. And I damn sure don't
[12:11] think we're going to see him on X making
[12:12] an apology, especially after Candace
[12:14] said this.
[12:15] >> Unravel wrote, "How did Andrew Kovette
[12:17] know that it was supposed to be Candace
[12:19] if the killer is Tyler Robinson?" That
[12:20] was actually something that I had never
[12:22] considered. I told you guys that Andrew
[12:23] Kovette called me from the hospital and
[12:24] basically said you and Tucker should
[12:26] shut up because you guys are on a list.
[12:28] What list?
[12:30] Nobody mentioned that Tyler Robinson had
[12:32] a list. And certainly if he's killing
[12:34] over the topic of transgenderism, I
[12:36] don't think me and Tucker would be high
[12:37] on it. So yeah, what are we speaking
[12:39] about? If this was a lone shooter and
[12:41] just a random incident because he was
[12:43] defending his lover, how was there a
[12:45] list? What was that list that was
[12:46] happening behind the scenes? It's almost
[12:48] like Tucker and I were being threatened
[12:49] from the United States military. And I
[12:51] should really say the global state
[12:53] military because I do believe that we
[12:54] are are run by the military and that the
[12:58] idea of democracy is an utter delusion.
[13:01] Now, okay, great. We have the email just
[13:04] to fact check this because it's funny
[13:05] and we should now call him Alex from for
[13:07] the rest of our lives. Eric wrote, "Hey
[13:10] man, this was an email, by the way, to
[13:11] my PR. Tell Candace I meant no harm to
[13:14] her. It was that Alex guy who kept at
[13:17] it. He tried to corner me and he found
[13:20] out. If she wants to talk, I'll call
[13:22] her. If not, no worries. I've lost too
[13:24] many people in my life to get too
[13:25] emotional about these things. I've
[13:26] always respected." That moment got blown
[13:28] out of proportion. in any way I remain.
[13:30] And my message back was keep that same
[13:33] energy. You went on to a podcast. You
[13:35] lied about relationship with Charlie
[13:36] right after he died when I was still
[13:38] reeling from so many emotions. I was
[13:40] then being attacked and lied about a
[13:41] very real relationship that I had in my
[13:42] life. And you're just going to privately
[13:44] email this little sucker apology. Keep
[13:46] the same energy. Do it publicly. Say I
[13:48] lied or I misspoke. Whichever it is,
[13:50] he's not done that. He's not moved to do
[13:51] that. I don't believe he did. At least
[13:53] it wasn't sent to us. and he calls he
[13:56] throws [snorts] that guy Alex or
[13:58] whatever who wouldn't stop talking. So
[14:00] that's that's him. He's just Alex who
[14:01] won't stop talking on the PBD podcast
[14:04] because um his only mission in life is
[14:06] to defend Zionism, to defend Zionists
[14:10] and to attack people who don't like what
[14:12] Israel is doing, which is virtually
[14:14] everybody at this point. So anyway,
[14:17] >> so if you couldn't figure it out from
[14:19] the picture she just showed. Okay. And
[14:22] again, of course, another apology.
[14:24] He's calling this guy Alex. [laughter]
[14:29] That and that's how you know exactly
[14:32] what I just said. I'm like, "Oh, that
[14:34] was he was sent by Turning Point." Of
[14:36] course, he doesn't know Patrick that
[14:38] well. He doesn't know Adam. He doesn't
[14:41] know Vinnie. They sent him there to put
[14:44] out that whole spiel, that whole
[14:47] narrative. And and of course, he doesn't
[14:50] even know Adam's name to some guy, Alex,
[14:54] because he was there to just spew a
[14:56] narrative. The same the same way you
[14:58] would see a politician on a show. I'm
[15:01] sorry for keeping Adam up there so long.
[15:03] I apologize again. The same way you
[15:05] would see a politician do that type of
[15:07] thing where they would just go to a go
[15:10] to a show and they'd be like, "Oh, hi.
[15:12] What's your name?" Rachel Madow. Oh, hi.
[15:16] Hi, Miss Madow. How you doing? It's cuz
[15:19] they don't know him at all. That's
[15:22] exactly what he was doing there. And I
[15:24] love that she said that. Keep that same
[15:26] energy. What are you doing to say I've
[15:29] always had respect for Candace? But then
[15:32] on the other hand, when you're on a
[15:33] podcast, talk about he actually said the
[15:36] words, "She's nothing." He actually said
[15:38] those words, "She's nothing." And then
[15:41] he kind of like said, "Okay, she's has
[15:43] nothing to do with Turning Point.
[15:45] Haven't seen her since 2015. Quiet
[15:47] divorce with Charlie." These are not
[15:49] things you say about someone you
[15:50] respect.
[15:52] Not at all. Not even not even remotely
[15:55] do you say things like this about
[15:57] someone you respect. You say, "Oh man,
[16:00] that person's actually great." Yeah.
[16:02] Yeah. Incredible talent. That's what you
[16:04] say. You don't go and talk with Adam and
[16:07] talk backhanded, all this backhanded
[16:10] nonsense about a person that you
[16:12] respect, but he's walking it back now.
[16:14] And he's doing it secretly. And you know
[16:16] why Candace said do it publicly? He's
[16:18] never going to do it publicly because
[16:20] you know what happens if he does it
[16:21] publicly? That means he would have to go
[16:23] on to X and actually say, "Hey, just so
[16:27] you know, Candace, just want to tell
[16:28] you." Imagine how this goes over. This
[16:31] guy's a part of Turning Point. Imagine
[16:33] how this goes over. He's a part of
[16:36] Turning Point. He's a part of that
[16:37] crowd, Philadelphia and whatnot. Uh,
[16:41] imagine he says, "Just wanted to put it
[16:44] out there for everybody to see. I really
[16:46] respect Candace. I take back everything
[16:49] I say on as said on the Patrick BD David
[16:51] podcast.
[16:53] I think the world of her. I know she had
[16:55] a great relationship with Char. Do you
[16:57] know what buddy? Are you kidding me?
[17:00] He gets a plot next to Charlie if that
[17:03] happens. What? Just a
[17:07] a day later. Easy. He's gone. That's it.
[17:10] He's done. And then you have a bunch of
[17:13] people just attack him on X. Oh, it
[17:16] would be crazy. the text messages he
[17:18] would get, he'd get fired.
[17:21] Oh, it'd be crazy. Ben Shapiro would be
[17:24] on him. Are you kidding me? [laughter]
[17:29] Ben Shapiro would be like, I listen, I I
[17:32] I actually want to have a word with you.
[17:34] I want to have a word with you. Matt,
[17:36] get off of me. Get off of me, Matt. I
[17:39] want to talk to you right now, buddy.
[17:41] Oh, it'd be a big problem. Are you
[17:42] kidding me? So, he's never gonna do
[17:44] that. Never gonna do that. Ah man. But I
[17:48] love it. I love it. And she did take a
[17:50] little bit of a victory lap because
[17:51] somebody actually reposted it. Uh this
[17:54] gentleman here reposted it saying that
[17:57] uh you know Candace you know everything
[17:59] we just saw the email blah blah blah. He
[18:02] apologized. Candace actually comments at
[18:04] the bottom that Alex guy is annoying. Oh
[18:08] man. Adam's been catching it all day. He
[18:11] said a bunch of stuff about Candace that
[18:12] I showed you guys the other day. Candace
[18:15] went in on him. Everybody's going in on
[18:17] him and he's just writing in all caps.
[18:20] Let's all be friends. Why can't we be
[18:22] friends? It's the weirdest thing. Just
[18:26] Why hasn't Patrick got rid of that guy?
[18:29] Patrick Bet David has access
[18:32] for sure has access to a lot of talent.
[18:36] You can't think of one other person, one
[18:39] other age demographic that you can
[18:41] replace Adam with. It would just be the
[18:44] best. But you know what? He can't do
[18:47] that. You know why? I'm not going to say
[18:50] why. I have a theory why.
[18:54] I'm not going to say I'm not going to
[18:56] say handler or anything,
[18:58] but he's like uh
[19:01] I'm not even going to say it. I'm not
[19:02] even going to say it.
[19:05] It has to do with Philadelphia, but I'm
[19:07] not going to say it. He's he kind of has
[19:09] to be there, you know. You know, he's
[19:12] just he's there. He watches over things
[19:15] to make sure that things aren't going
[19:17] too overboard. And when Candace needs to
[19:20] be talked about negatively, he's there.
[19:22] He's like, "Okay, don't worry. I got uh
[19:25] I got the marching orders here." I'm
[19:27] just saying that that's what he seems
[19:28] like because because you know, I I'm not
[19:32] even going to go further than that. Not
[19:33] even gonna go further than that. Uh,
[19:35] [laughter]
[19:36] but I just wanted to bring that to you
[19:38] guys. I find that so ridiculous. And
[19:42] good good for Candace that she actually
[19:44] gets to uh do that to somebody. Finally,
[19:48] to have somebody graveling back there
[19:50] secretly to her is good. That's exactly
[19:53] what she deserves. All of the the the
[19:56] close inner circle of Turning Point
[20:00] should all be apologizing to her. They
[20:02] should be apologizing for what they
[20:05] allowed to be said about her. They
[20:07] should be apologizing for being so
[20:09] silent and not either cooporating or
[20:12] even pushing back or anything. They they
[20:15] should really have to apologize. And
[20:19] honestly, not even just to Candace.
[20:20] Candace would be a big person, but
[20:22] everybody who believed in them,
[20:24] everybody who, like myself, wanted to
[20:26] see them rise up and do a great job
[20:29] replacing Charlie. And it's just it's
[20:32] terrible. It's it's like you found out
[20:34] your substitute teacher is now your
[20:36] teacher and you're just like, "What?
[20:38] What do you mean? Where's where's Mr.
[20:40] Garrison? What are you talking about?
[20:42] You're here forever?" No, no, no, no,
[20:45] no. Bring back Mr. Garrison. That's all
[20:48] we're hoping. But uh rest in peace. The
[20:52] uh the fine gentleman Charlie Kirk won't
[20:54] be coming back. But
[20:57] we move on. I do have some ideas of who
[20:59] should actually take that place of
[21:01] Charlie on the Charlie Kirk show. Not
[21:03] take the place of Charlie, but it
[21:05] shouldn't be the Turning Point spokesman
[21:08] that's running the podcast now with, you
[21:11] know, nondescript
[21:13] guy Blake. You know what I shouldn't it
[21:15] shouldn't be that. There there are some
[21:17] pe There are some young people right now
[21:19] who are really pushing the envelope on
[21:22] things. This one guy, his name's Cam. I
[21:25] think I won't go into it, but I think
[21:26] that guy Cam, I think he should be in
[21:30] Charlie Kirk's, not in his seat, but on
[21:32] that show. If they're gonna run that
[21:34] show still, that's what I think should
[21:36] happen, honestly. But anyways guys,
