[00:03] Let's get into it. Coach Colin here.
[00:05] Happy Friday. What's going on, guys? I
[00:08] am going to be breaking down something
[00:10] for you. Now, if you're not up to date,
[00:13] the debate between Candace Owens and the
[00:16] Turning Point gang, turning point in the
[00:18] gang is actually not going to be
[00:22] happening. It's going to be happening in
[00:24] a different way, but we will get to
[00:26] that. I'm going to be breaking down to
[00:28] you the whole bunch of events that
[00:31] happened, what people are thinking, what
[00:33] people are saying online on X and
[00:35] whatnot, but I dug a little deeper and I
[00:40] think I figured out why it can't happen
[00:43] on Candace's side and why it needed to
[00:47] happen at a very specific date and time
[00:51] on Turning Point's side. Now, I think
[00:53] there's there's multiple layers to that,
[00:55] but I'm going to break it all down for
[00:57] you guys. Now, let's just jump in. In
[00:59] case you didn't know, you didn't see my
[01:01] video before, maybe you're not on X, but
[01:03] Blake himself of Turning Point, he said,
[01:06] "For the past 3 months, we've received a
[01:08] flood of questions about Candace and all
[01:11] of her claims about Charlie's closest
[01:14] friends. For three months, we preferred
[01:16] to stay silent, but the attacks have not
[01:20] stopped." Uh today I deliver this
[01:22] response. Now in this response
[01:24] basically I'm not going to bore you with
[01:26] this scripted response that uh Blake
[01:30] gave that was more than likely written
[01:32] by Andrew because he's the spokesperson.
[01:34] He's the guy. Now basically Blake is
[01:37] just saying, you know, you're saying all
[01:39] these things. He's bringing up claims
[01:40] that she's made. He's doing it very uh
[01:44] in bad faith. He's like talking about
[01:47] underground tunnels and he's trying to
[01:48] make it out to seem like Candace is
[01:50] crazy basically. And he's basically
[01:52] saying, "Hey, listen. You've said all
[01:54] these things. We're all going to be
[01:56] doing a live stream. We would love to
[01:58] have you there in person so we could
[02:00] address every single one of these
[02:02] claims. Makes sense. Perfect person." I
[02:06] would say her or me or Ian would be the
[02:09] perfect person. But obviously Candace,
[02:12] that's the one. She's the Daenerys of
[02:14] this whole thing, right? Going going
[02:16] going going back to her to her village
[02:19] that she helped establish, you know, uh
[02:23] her castle.
[02:25] But but what ended up happening was
[02:30] he gave this date and time. Now, what
[02:32] happened first is he didn't give a date
[02:34] and time. He just said, "We're going to
[02:35] have a live stream." Then at 1:30 in the
[02:39] morning, Blake decides to put out the
[02:43] date and time of the live stream. Okay.
[02:47] And also, Candace only has 24 hours to
[02:51] respond, which means that it was up for
[02:54] a good, I don't know, eight hours before
[02:57] Candace even saw that this was
[02:59] happening. She had to be told. We we
[03:01] found out via her live stream that she
[03:03] was actually told about this from one of
[03:06] her assistants. I believe that her
[03:07] name's uh I think it was Savannah, I
[03:10] believe. So, she had to be told about
[03:12] this. So, a chunk of time, a third of
[03:15] the time has already gone by. And
[03:17] Candace now has to scramble. Now, let me
[03:19] show you what Blake said. at 1:30. He
[03:22] says, "The live stream we announced on
[03:25] the show Wednesday has been set." 4:00
[03:29] p.m. Eastern, 2:00 p.m. local time on
[03:32] Monday, December 15th. A collection of
[03:35] Charlie's closest friends will respond
[03:37] to statements made by Candace Owens to
[03:40] set the record straight once and for all
[03:43] prior to the opening of America Fest.
[03:47] This is very interesting, right?
[03:49] Remember remember that. So, America Fest
[03:51] is about to happen. Then he says, "We'll
[03:53] be live streaming from Charlie's Phoenix
[03:55] studio." Uh, he's saying, "Uh, our offer
[03:58] from yesterday holds. If Candace wishes
[04:00] to join us in person in Phoenix, she is
[04:04] welcome to do so. She can let us know by
[04:06] the end of the day." So, this guy's
[04:08] saying end of day. It's not even 24
[04:10] hours. He's saying end of day. He just
[04:12] put this out 1:30 in the morning. She's
[04:15] seeing it by 8. She has to let them know
[04:17] by like 5 or 6. So, it's it's a little
[04:20] silly that he's doing this kind of
[04:22] thing, right? And obviously, many people
[04:25] thought it was silly. And everybody
[04:27] who's against Candace and kind of with
[04:29] Philadelphia is sitting back like,
[04:31] "Whoa, what's the big deal? What's the
[04:32] big deal? Come on, you could do it. You
[04:35] can do it." It's it's it's literally
[04:39] like when when uh somebody who was
[04:42] running for president said to Joe Rogan,
[04:44] "You come to me and you do the episode
[04:47] and I won't do three hours. I'll do 45
[04:50] minutes, but you fly to me, please."
[04:53] And Joe was like, "What? No, it never
[04:56] works like that ever." He's like, "I'm
[04:58] sorry. I can't do that." And everybody
[05:01] was like, "Wow, I can't believe Joe." Oh
[05:04] gosh, that's ridiculous. Completely
[05:07] unfair. All right, guys. There's three
[05:10] things I need you to do. Like,
[05:11] subscribe, and go check out the Patreon.
[05:14] That's it. Get back to the episode. You
[05:16] know, it's it's the exact same type of
[05:18] energy here. Now, Candace, of course,
[05:21] she cuz Blake is saying this on X. So,
[05:23] Candace is responding on X. She says,
[05:25] "Kind of weird that you didn't email me
[05:27] or call me to ask about times or
[05:29] availability and choose instead to tweet
[05:33] this confirmation out at midnight."
[05:36] Probably midnight her time. Why am I
[05:39] learning about this on X? December 15th
[05:42] does not work in person. And 2:00 p.m.
[05:45] PT is also literally the time I do my
[05:48] podcast live every day, which you knew.
[05:52] But we will happily cancel the daily
[05:54] podcast and we will join you guys
[05:56] virtually instead for the live stream on
[05:59] the 15th. If that works on your end,
[06:02] let's lock it in. So this is her
[06:04] responding. She said, "Let's lock it
[06:06] in."
[06:07] Everybody thought that that was perfect.
[06:11] People on both sides were like, "Oh,
[06:12] okay. I guess that's how it's going to
[06:14] happen." everybody whether whether you
[06:17] are just decked out in Philadelphia
[06:19] gear, you know, you got your
[06:21] Philadelphia cream cheese, maybe some
[06:23] locks on that cream cheese, I don't
[06:25] know. I'm talking about Philadelphia.
[06:28] Well, they got bagels in Philadelphia.
[06:30] Anyway, uh [laughter]
[06:35] but everybody on either side of things
[06:39] thought that's perfect. Virtual makes
[06:42] perfect sense. They've seen Turning
[06:44] Point people do things virtual. We've
[06:46] seen Candace do interviews virtual. So,
[06:50] it just makes sense. I mean, Charlie
[06:51] Kirk's last two interviews, actually,
[06:53] his last interview that he did with Ben
[06:55] Shapiro was virtual. They made it work,
[06:59] right? Um, I like to bring up that
[07:02] interview because so many things were
[07:04] said in that interview. Uh, then Candace
[07:06] also adds to what I just read. She says,
[07:09] "I will also add that I'm happy to jump
[07:10] on Charlie's show any day before then
[07:14] virtually as well. I was serious when I
[07:16] said we could do it today even
[07:19] virtually. I can make it happen pretty
[07:21] much any day because it's easier to move
[07:23] things around with the kids and I'll
[07:25] find someone to sub for my morning
[07:27] homeschooling."
[07:29] Makes sense. Makes sense. So, everybody
[07:33] was like, "Okay, so she's not backing
[07:35] down. She's not backing out, right? She
[07:38] thought it was pretty weird. She even
[07:39] said so here.
[07:41] >> So Turning Point issued a an ultimatum.
[07:45] I don't know, an invitation. Gave me 24
[07:47] hours to respond to a tweet that they
[07:50] sent at midnight. Very strange. Again,
[07:52] everything just seems to be very strange
[07:54] and necessary that is coming out of
[07:55] Turning Point USA. We're going to find
[07:57] out.
[07:58] >> So right there, you know, this is what
[08:02] people had to say. Like one person said
[08:04] to her when she uh put this tweet out
[08:06] said, "This is cowardice. An in-person
[08:09] is never going to happen." Candace of
[08:11] course clap back to that. She said, "No,
[08:14] Graham. Cowardice is you cashing checks
[08:16] from Prageru."
[08:19] Oh, I love it. From Prageru to go after
[08:22] me while pretending this is organic
[08:24] influencers taking money to attack
[08:26] people is cowardice. I throw a heart on
[08:29] that one. throw throw throw a repost on
[08:32] that one. Come on. I mean, yeah. I I
[08:36] mean, listen, that's not a part of the
[08:39] episode, but yeah, obviously that's
[08:42] what's happening. Clearly, that's what's
[08:44] happening.
[08:46] I want to get into it so bad, but it's
[08:48] like it happened with Harry Sison,
[08:50] right? Harry Sison, he he was he's an
[08:54] influencer. He's posting all this very
[08:57] pro DNC type stuff and he has a company
[09:01] or he he works for a company or is under
[09:03] a company called Pallet Management and
[09:05] Pallet Management is receiving huge
[09:07] payments from the DNC and it's like what
[09:10] do we think's going on? And you think
[09:12] that only goes on on the left? Come on,
[09:14] get out of here. You know, honestly,
[09:18] honestly, again, biased but never blind.
[09:22] That's that's me. I I know when I'm
[09:24] biased, but I'm not blind. But honestly,
[09:27] what I think that they're trying to do
[09:30] is they're trying to, and this is this
[09:33] is a very textbook move. I' I've seen
[09:35] this many times. They're trying to show
[09:39] that they tried, right? And it's kind of
[09:42] boxing her in in a way. So, they come
[09:46] out of nowhere and they say, "Hey, live
[09:48] stream. We're going to live stream. We'd
[09:50] like you to be there in person." And
[09:52] everybody goes, "Wow, they're finally,
[09:54] whoa, they're they're rolling out some
[09:56] kind of, you know, not really a red
[09:57] carpet. It's kind of a brown kind of,
[09:59] you know, muddy carpet, but fine. It's
[10:01] rolled out. It's there." A and then they
[10:05] just go, "Well, it has to be at this
[10:07] time and it has to be at this place and
[10:09] you have to show up in person." And then
[10:11] you're kind of like, okay, that's kind
[10:12] of they're boxing her in because what's
[10:15] most likely going to happen to the lady
[10:19] with four kids and a husband that has
[10:21] the number one podcast in the world,
[10:24] what's more than likely going to happen
[10:26] is that she's going to say, "Well, can
[10:28] we do it a different day? I just that
[10:30] doesn't work." And they're going to go,
[10:31] "H, well, how about that?" I guess she
[10:35] doesn't real Hey guys, we tried, but I
[10:39] guess she's just not up to the task.
[10:42] She's afraid of the general Mikey McCoy
[10:46] and the smartest man in the world,
[10:48] Blake, and the Devonire Andrew. Oh, she
[10:52] and the purehearted Frank Turk. Hooray.
[10:55] She's just afraid of all these guys. I'm
[10:59] so sorry. We really wanted it to work
[11:00] everybody, but I mean, sorry, she's just
[11:05] a coward. That's what they're trying to
[11:07] pull off here. And uh I think everybody
[11:10] kind of really saw that for what it was.
[11:12] One person even said this and I follow
[11:14] this guy, so I wanted to shout him out.
[11:16] Um they want to create perception.
[11:19] Exactly. We tried uh but she didn't show
[11:21] up. We tried to answer her questions,
[11:22] but she didn't show up. They treat
[11:24] Charlie's audience like they're stupid.
[11:27] They treat their Charlie's audience like
[11:29] they're not that smart. That's why the
[11:31] show is floundering in his wake. That's
[11:34] 100% true. 100% true. And it's very sad
[11:37] to see. Very sad to see. If you're going
[11:38] to continue Charlie's podcast, you got
[11:40] to get somebody who's like a podcast
[11:42] powerhouse. Honestly, you should. It
[11:44] should be me. It should be [laughter]
[11:47] Hey guys, what's going on? I just took
[11:50] over the Charlie Kirk show and my first
[11:52] guest is Candace Owens. How [laughter]
[11:54] you doing?
[11:58] That's my first guest, Candace Owens.
[12:00] Candace, is there anything you'd like to
[12:02] talk to us about?
[12:07] All right, it's been about two weeks.
[12:08] We're going to have Candace Owens on
[12:09] again. Is everybody ready for Candace
[12:11] Owens here, guys?
[12:14] Ian Carol is my next guest. I'm going to
[12:16] be having Baron Baron Coleman's coming
[12:19] on in a week or so. Oh, it be But it'd
[12:23] be good. They'd be good shows. I
[12:25] promise. I promise somebody tell Andrew,
[12:28] Andrew, I'm the guy. I'll do it.
[12:33] [laughter]
[12:34] That would be hilarious. But getting
[12:36] back to the topic yesterday, this is
[12:39] Blake responding to what Candace said.
[12:41] She said, "That's kind of weird. What's
[12:42] going on? Availability."
[12:45] Blake says, "Yesterday, we made it clear
[12:47] that we would be scheduling a formal
[12:50] response to the allegations and
[12:52] accusations you have made."
[12:54] He's acting like he's like, "We set we
[12:55] set this up weeks ago." Just so you
[12:57] know. Uh just like the construction at
[13:00] UVU. This was set up weeks ago. Come on
[13:02] now. Uh we've decided that response.
[13:06] We've decided that response will be
[13:09] delivered during a live stream on
[13:11] December 15th. Thank you for your
[13:14] response letting us know you will not be
[13:17] joining in a person conversation. We
[13:19] will be re uh we will be proceeding
[13:21] without you.
[13:23] Now, what is actually cowardice in this
[13:27] whole equation after what you've just
[13:29] learned, after what I've just broken
[13:31] down for you? He basically just sends
[13:33] out this very monotone, no emotion type
[13:37] of thing, almost like Chachi PT just was
[13:40] handling business on his account or
[13:41] something and says that they're just
[13:44] proceeding without her, like as if it
[13:47] can't be done virtually. Blake was just
[13:50] on with Frank Turk virtually. Charlie
[13:53] would talk to Megan, all sorts of people
[13:56] virtually. And all of a sudden now
[13:58] they're like, "Well, I guess I guess she
[14:01] can't show up." And it's leading
[14:03] everybody to start thinking, why is it
[14:06] so important that Candace be there in
[14:08] person? Why does she have to be there?
[14:12] Why can't she do it virtually? and it's
[14:14] making everybody very suspect as you'll
[14:17] find out as I go through what people's
[14:19] thoughts are. But that was the response.
[14:21] Basically, they're calling it off and
[14:24] and they have this perception maybe to
[14:28] someone who doesn't know what's going on
[14:31] that she's the one backing out. He even
[14:34] says it at the end, thank you for your
[14:36] response, letting us know you will not
[14:38] be joining the in-person conversation
[14:41] cuz that's not what you do in a
[14:43] situation like this. I've interviewed
[14:44] hundreds of people. You say, "Oh, yeah,
[14:46] the 15th doesn't work." What about the
[14:48] 14th? Yeah, 14th. Does the 14th work?
[14:51] Okay. Okay. How about the 12th to the
[14:53] 13th? Either one of those. The 12th does
[14:56] work. Okay. What time? We want to do 2
[14:58] p.m. Can you do 2 p.m.? Okay. You can't.
[15:00] You can do one. Okay. Can we do 1:30?
[15:03] That's what you do. That's it. Because
[15:05] you really want to sit down with the
[15:07] person. But if you don't really want to
[15:08] sit down with the person, as soon as
[15:11] they give any kind of push back, you go,
[15:13] "Okay, I'm good. I'm good. I'm fine. I
[15:17] don't need to do this."
[15:19] That's exactly what he's doing there.
[15:21] And again, people are just going to be
[15:23] like, "Ah, well, the people who support
[15:26] Turning Point and Philadelphia, cuz this
[15:28] is more a Candace Philadelphia thing
[15:31] than it is a Candace Turning Point
[15:33] thing." I mean, let's just be honest. It
[15:36] really is at this point. That's what it
[15:38] is. I'm just saying. And I I I know you
[15:42] guys are with me on that. Uh but now
[15:45] Jimmy Door actually spoke up. He said,
[15:47] "I knew you'd pull something like this
[15:48] and here it is. Everyone, including you,
[15:50] knows that's not how you book a guest on
[15:54] a show. You are supposed to contact them
[15:56] and find a mutual agreeable date and
[15:59] time. You don't publicly announce the
[16:01] date before it's confirmed. It's
[16:04] transparency.
[16:06] It's transparently obvious what you're
[16:08] doing here, but you're all shady AF,
[16:12] including all the pastors, quote
[16:14] unquote, you're associated with. Nice
[16:17] ratio, by the way. [laughter]
[16:21] I love that Jimmy knows about ratios.
[16:24] That's amazing. That's so funny. Oh,
[16:27] man. Oh, nice ratio, by the way. Wow.
[16:30] Jimmy did it. Oh, and then Blake
[16:33] actually Oh, Blake responded to Jimmy. I
[16:36] did not see that. Blake says, "Of
[16:38] course, it isn't how you book a guest.
[16:40] We are not booking a guest. We never
[16:42] said we were. We were delivering a
[16:44] response to several months of escalating
[16:47] harassment and lies. She's given the
[16:49] opportunity to join and declined." See,
[16:51] he's really going for that thing of she
[16:54] is the one who's declining. But but
[16:58] actually when he does that long
[17:01] monologue, that long scripted completely
[17:05] looking down, the thing was just written
[17:07] and he is just getting it in his hands.
[17:09] Anderson Cooper, Don Lemon style
[17:12] monologue.
[17:16] You like how I I did all that? That was
[17:17] very niche. It's very niche. Uh
[17:21] but he says
[17:24] this is all for Candice. Like we want to
[17:28] we want to actually go down all the
[17:31] accusations that Candace has made and we
[17:35] want Candace to be there so we can
[17:37] handle this once and for all. That was
[17:39] the gist of what he wanted to have
[17:42] happen alongside some other people from
[17:45] Turning Point and Candace. So you are
[17:48] booking a guest. You're just doing it in
[17:51] a very very shady way. And now you're
[17:54] acting like, "Oh, we weren't booking
[17:55] her. was happening either way. Well,
[17:57] then why did you announce it and make
[17:58] Candace the focal point of the whole
[18:00] thing and then ask her to show up and
[18:03] then announce the date without her and
[18:05] now you're proceeding now you're
[18:07] proceeding without her. What is that?
[18:11] That doesn't make any sense. You
[18:13] wouldn't proceed without her when you
[18:14] want to actually address what she's
[18:16] saying to you. So now and [laughter] now
[18:20] now what is this thing going to be? What
[18:22] is this going to be? It's going to be
[18:25] five guys from Turning Point being like,
[18:27] "Hey, you know Candace is a liar." Hey,
[18:29] I agree. She's making things up. I know
[18:32] Mikey over here was a general. He's the
[18:35] greatest guy ever. Hey guys, I just want
[18:38] to let you know I am a general. I did
[18:40] find myself. And sometimes you walk when
[18:43] people get shot. Can Can I get an amen,
[18:46] boys? Amen. Hooray. They're all going to
[18:48] be patting each other on the back. This
[18:51] is going to be like what what is this
[18:53] going to be now?
[18:55] We just want to go through the They're
[18:57] just going to be doing things very
[18:58] loosely. Uh let's just go through the
[19:01] secret tunnels. There's no secret
[19:03] tunnels. Uh Egyptian planes. There's no
[19:06] Egyptian planes. Uh Mikey McCoy walking.
[19:10] Mikey McCoy looks gorgeous when he
[19:12] walks. Can I get an amen, boys? Amen.
[19:14] High fives all around. Let's go. Come
[19:16] on.
[19:18] >> [laughter]
[19:18] >> What?
[19:22] This is ridiculous. It's going to be so
[19:24] silly. There's no point of even doing
[19:25] this. The announcement just doesn't even
[19:27] make sense.
[19:29] Why? Why announce it? But of course,
[19:31] again, there's people on his side,
[19:33] right? Somebody said, "You kept your
[19:35] word and she's moving goalpost now." In
[19:38] actuality, it seems like Blake's moving
[19:39] goalpost, but you know, this this type
[19:42] of thing is going to happen. You're
[19:44] going to have people that are on his
[19:46] side. Again, it's more of a Philadelphia
[19:49] thing than anything. I don't think
[19:50] people are like that Blake,
[19:53] man. Charlie's gone, but geez, that
[19:55] Blake really fills the seat. Nobody's
[19:57] doing that, honest. Like, let's be real.
[19:59] I think even Blake knows that. He's he's
[20:01] he's uh he's more of a behind-the-scenes
[20:04] guy, you know, not even a it's not a
[20:06] shot at him. He's a behind-the-scenes
[20:08] guy. He knows how to he's he's the
[20:09] strategy guy. It wasn't all just Charlie
[20:11] strategizing. is is guys like Blake.
[20:14] Andrew was a spokesman, you know, Andrew
[20:16] would be going around with Mikey was
[20:18] head of like uh staffing, chief of
[20:20] staff, you know, like they all had their
[20:22] roles. Blake's role is not really being
[20:24] front and center on camera. So, he he's
[20:26] he is trying his best. He is trying his
[20:29] best. I've learned that not everybody
[20:31] can do what's what I'm doing here. It's
[20:34] uh it's not the easiest thing in the
[20:35] world, honestly. Feels like it to me.
[20:39] Feels like it to me, though. No, I'm
[20:41] kidding. I'm kidding. It's uh it's it's
[20:43] nerve-wracking sometimes, especially
[20:44] when you have to read. Candace, this is
[20:47] somebody just uh reporting on Candace.
[20:48] Candace, let's do it tomorrow. Turning
[20:50] point, you have to come to our office.
[20:52] It can't be virtual. We're not going to
[20:54] work with your schedule. It has to be on
[20:56] December 15th at 2 p.m. When you film
[21:00] your show, you have to tell us today.
[21:03] That's basically what Blake did. It's
[21:05] wild. And somebody else brought this up.
[21:09] And again, you know, you got to think
[21:11] about that. Interesting. Wasn't
[21:14] Charlie's event sporadic and scheduled
[21:17] quickly?
[21:19] And that's what a lot of people are kind
[21:21] of veering towards when they hear that
[21:23] it has to be in person.
[21:26] I mean, let's be honest, this is beef.
[21:29] This is beef what's going on. We don't
[21:30] call it that because we're all
[21:32] professionals here, right? We have our
[21:34] speedos on and whatnot. So, but it is
[21:38] beef. And listen, I haven't always just
[21:42] been the podcast guy who wears his
[21:44] headphones tilted like this. I haven't
[21:46] always been this person, right? Father
[21:49] and husband.
[21:51] When you have be I've been in situation
[21:53] where you got to be really street smart.
[21:54] I have a past where you had to be really
[21:56] street smart. If you have five people
[21:59] who don't like you and you've been
[22:02] talking smack about them and they say,
[22:04] "Come to this place at this time and let
[22:08] us know when you're here." You don't
[22:10] exactly do that. I'm just saying that's
[22:14] like two mob families and somebody's
[22:16] like, "Hey, hey, tell tell Vinnie Pudo.
[22:20] Tell Vinnie Bjudo that Paulie wants to
[22:23] see him. He comes to He comes here at
[22:26] 3:00.
[22:27] Vinnie Perjudo is gonna be like, "What?
[22:30] You think I'm born yesterday? Huh? You
[22:32] think I'm born yesterday? Listen,
[22:35] listen.
[22:37] Tell
[22:38] tell Paulie two time that Vinnie Pjudo
[22:43] doesn't just show up at somebody's
[22:44] house. We're going to go somewhere
[22:46] neutral like a Starbucks or something."
[22:49] You know, Johnny Johnny Two Times
[22:53] actually owns a Starbucks down the
[22:55] street. Yeah. Yeah, we'll go to Tommy's
[22:57] place. Tommy has a coffee shop. We'll be
[23:00] there. No guns.
[23:03] [laughter]
[23:04] I could go real deep into that mob bit
[23:06] if I if I wanted to. I could reach real
[23:08] deep in there. But you know what I mean?
[23:11] You shouldn't really do something like
[23:13] that. And I know to some people it's
[23:14] like, well, that's just ridiculous. Come
[23:16] on. But it's like, is it?
[23:19] I don't know. I don't know if something
[23:23] if Listen, I'm not saying anything would
[23:26] happen, but if something did, you're
[23:28] just going to have Mikey walk away.
[23:30] You're going to have Blake do a little
[23:32] hop skip away. You're going to have
[23:34] Andrew just disappear. And then you're
[23:36] going to have Brian Harpole because
[23:38] their security is still on staff. You're
[23:40] going to have Brian Harpull. He's going
[23:42] to be like, "Well, these guys got your
[23:43] back. We all got the tattoo. It's fine.
[23:46] It's fine." And then they're going to be
[23:47] down there with, god forbid, down there
[23:49] on Candace. are going to be like, "We
[23:50] were working on her." Their hands are
[23:52] going to be pristine. Nothing on their
[23:55] hands. We were We were working hard. I I
[23:57] don't know what happened. I mean, and
[23:59] Sean Ryan's going to be like, "Tell me
[24:01] about that. Tell me about that. What
[24:02] What was happen Well, we had to get her
[24:04] off the X. We really, you know, we're
[24:07] always taught you got to get someone off
[24:09] the X." Sean's going to be like, "Yes.
[24:10] Yes, that's actually true." Just for
[24:12] anyone that doesn't know, you have to
[24:14] get people off the X. I'm tired of
[24:16] hearing people talking bad about Brian
[24:19] here.
[24:21] [laughter]
[24:24] Just saying. That interview still rubs
[24:26] me the wrong way. And then somebody
[24:28] says, "You really don't know why Candace
[24:30] doesn't want to go where Turning Point
[24:33] tells her to."
[24:36] He used the wrong two. He He used two
[24:38] with two O's. That's not the right one.
[24:40] He used the wrong one. Um [laughter]
[24:44] Mr. who can't pronounce anybody's name
[24:46] properly is like a like I'm telling
[24:48] people how to do grammar here. Uh but
[24:52] but I dig a little deeper and it seems
[24:55] like the actual reason shout out to the
[24:58] person who tagged me in this. It seems
[25:00] like the actual reason is is because
[25:04] it's her husband's birthday
[25:07] now. Somebody, this is a screenshot,
[25:09] right? Again, shout out to this person
[25:11] here. You uh you told me about this.
[25:14] shout out to you. Thank you so much. Um,
[25:17] but I had to go check it out myself. So,
[25:20] I'm like, is this true? This is her This
[25:22] is her husband, George Farmer. Guy has
[25:26] four names. Wow. Such royalty, huh? Born
[25:30] December 15th.
[25:32] That's why December 15th doesn't work
[25:35] for Candace.
[25:37] And she's still willing to do it
[25:39] virtually.
[25:41] I mean,
[25:43] come on. During his birthday, but that's
[25:46] why it doesn't work in person because
[25:47] she would be flying. She would be away.
[25:50] It would be all day. She'd be gone for
[25:52] his entire birthday. Maybe come home
[25:55] late at night when his birthday is done.
[25:58] So, she didn't want to do it because of
[25:59] that reason. Now, I will say Candace has
[26:04] decided this is what she's going to do
[26:06] instead. It has been decided by the
[26:08] public that the best response for this
[26:11] is for my team to live stream your live
[26:15] stream and provide commentary.
[26:18] Since you already picked our regular
[26:20] podcasting time, we look forward to
[26:22] providing live responses to you and your
[26:26] once and for all answers.
[26:29] [laughter]
[26:31] Providing responses to your once and for
[26:33] all answers, man. So, we'll see. We'll
[26:37] see how it goes. I I really wish that it
[26:40] would h I honestly wish it would happen
[26:42] in person. I think Candace works best in
[26:45] person. I think it would be fiery. I
[26:48] think even if it's four of them against
[26:49] one, I think Candace would be able to
[26:52] break it down so well. I really want her
[26:54] to ask Andrew what he meant by it should
[26:56] have been you and that there's a list
[26:58] and, you know, credible threats and all
[27:00] that stuff. I really wish she could ask
[27:03] him that stuff in person. I really wish
[27:06] she could ask Mikey McCoy really what
[27:08] happened. What was the series of events?
[27:10] Cuz you're not being clear and your
[27:12] father clearly made things up. I I I
[27:15] just think she would work so well in
[27:17] person. They wouldn't be able to handle
[27:18] her um on, you know, and virtually as
[27:21] well. So this is like this is for us
[27:26] basically. This is for us, right? This
[27:29] doesn't really benefit Candace. She
[27:30] could just do a show. She doesn't really
[27:32] have to do anything like this. This is
[27:34] for us as the community of people who
[27:37] who want to hear the truth. But now we
[27:40] go a little deeper. That's why Candace
[27:43] couldn't do the 15th. Why does Blake say
[27:46] it has to be the 15th? Preparing for
[27:48] Amfest, he says. Okay, that's what it
[27:51] seems like. But I think there's
[27:52] something more strategic going on here.
[27:54] Now, I'm on Turning uh Turning Point
[27:56] USA's website here, right? We go down. I
[28:00] just I just want to show you guys
[28:01] something here. So, we go here. Okay.
[28:04] Advisory Council, right?
[28:07] Check that out. Okay. You seeing
[28:11] anything here?
[28:13] Right. Hold on. Was that person at the
[28:15] bottom?
[28:17] Thought that said William Shakespeare.
[28:19] Uh I was going to be like, "These guys
[28:21] are making up employees."
[28:23] They're not though. They're not. Um, but
[28:26] if you look here, you used to see our
[28:28] team. Charlie's still there as founder.
[28:32] Okay, fine. But Candace is gone. So,
[28:36] there's something very strategic going
[28:38] on. They just remove Candace. I just
[28:40] looked at this like days ago. They just
[28:43] removed Candace out of nowhere. Okay.
[28:45] But that's not all. Also, this is going
[28:48] to be going on December 13th.
[28:51] I think there's something very strategic
[28:54] going on with Turning Point. I don't
[28:57] think that they're like Candace. I don't
[28:59] think that they're like me. I think they
[29:01] think through every single thing they're
[29:04] going to do. I think when they go
[29:05] silent, they're like, "Okay, this is the
[29:07] plan. We're going to go with the plan."
[29:08] And when Blake said that message, that
[29:11] was also part of the plan. And it wasn't
[29:13] just to hype up Amfest or America Fest.
[29:16] It wasn't just to hype that up. It was
[29:19] because and I think this is what's going
[29:21] to happen. Erica Kirk, she is going to
[29:24] be on grief politics and more moderated
[29:27] by Barry Weiss. Now, if you don't know
[29:30] Barry Weiss,
[29:33] she is Philadelphia, okay, when it comes
[29:36] to media. And just recently, she got
[29:38] this like $150 million deal for her uh I
[29:43] think it's called the Freedom Press or
[29:44] the Free Press or something like that.
[29:46] And it didn't make any sense because if
[29:49] you looked at the views, they don't they
[29:52] if they're giving her 150 million, they
[29:54] would have to give me 400 million. And
[29:56] it's just like why why would you do
[29:58] that? Just based on views and metrics
[29:59] and engagement. There was none. Um super
[30:03] super super
[30:05] hardcore Philadelphia
[30:07] uh supporter she is. I think this is
[30:10] going to be the day
[30:12] where and this is why they did it on the
[30:15] 15th because this would have been the
[30:16] day or is going to be the day where
[30:19] Erica has to condemn Candace Owens.
[30:23] That's what I think. I think what Ben
[30:26] Shapiro did to Megan Kelly, I think
[30:29] Barry Weiss is going to do to Erica Kirk
[30:32] and she's going to say, "How do you feel
[30:34] about this?" And it's going to be a
[30:35] positioning of disavowing Candace Owens.
[30:39] That's what I think's going to be
[30:40] happening here. I don't know if it's
[30:42] going to be for Tucker as well, but
[30:44] Barry Weiss, of course, because of the
[30:46] Philadelphia connection. She really
[30:48] doesn't like Candace really doesn't like
[30:50] Tucker. I think this is going to be the
[30:53] day where Erica, who is now the CEO and
[30:57] running Turning Point, is going to have
[30:59] to disavow Candace because it's not
[31:02] enough that she just runs the company.
[31:04] This is just my view. It's not enough
[31:06] that she just runs the company. It's not
[31:08] enough that she just does a good job.
[31:10] They need her to disavow Candace. Right
[31:13] now, they need everybody to disavow
[31:15] Candace as quickly as possible. And I
[31:18] think this is going to be the day that
[31:20] they do that. And then two days later,
[31:22] Turning Point would be doing the exact
[31:24] same thing and putting Candace in her
[31:26] place on December 15th. And then their
[31:30] America Fest would happen. I bet you
[31:31] Tucker Carlson's not on on I bet he's
[31:34] off of that uh off of that running right
[31:37] now. It's just gonna be like Ben Shapiro
[31:39] and Matt Walsh, you know,
[31:42] and like Cam Cam Higgby. It's just going
[31:45] to be those three and that's it, you
[31:46] know? But I think there's some something
[31:49] very strategic happening, which is why
[31:52] all of that's happening just in that
[31:53] little space of time. They're really
[31:56] trying to make a statement. And again, I
[31:58] there's a Philadelphia connection and I
[32:01] think it's also the donors. I think
[32:03] there's something there with the donors
[32:06] because the donors really wanted Charlie
[32:08] to not platform Dave Smith, not platform
[32:11] Tucker, and definitely not platform
[32:13] Candace. Charlie went against that.
[32:15] Charlie's gone now. Now Erica is going
[32:18] to have to disavow because those those
[32:22] donors still want that to happen. They
[32:26] want Turning Point to be as far from
[32:28] Candace Owens as possible. That's why
[32:31] she's off the website now. And I think
[32:34] and you know, we'll see. I think that's
[32:37] going to be the day that Erica gets
[32:38] pressured to disavow Candace. That's
[32:41] just that's what I'm thinking. And also
[32:44] and also it could be the moment where
[32:48] Erica says, "Okay, I'm the only one that
[32:50] can tell her to stop. Stop." I I have a
[32:54] feeling Barry Weiss might even bring
[32:56] that up. She She'll probably know that
[32:59] or be told that and she might even bring
[33:00] that up. And then if Erica were to say,
[33:03] "Okay, Candace, stop." Right? If she was
[33:06] to say that, then all of a sudden,
[33:08] December 15th comes and we have Candace
[33:11] coming in with a different type of
[33:12] energy. She has to accept all their
[33:14] answers
[33:16] and then it's a done deal.
[33:19] That's That's See, that's just me.
[33:20] That's just me. That's what I think's
[33:22] going on there. I don't know. But, you
[33:25] know, I like to do some digging. I like
[33:26] to do some research and yeah, I'm just
[33:28] I'm just trying to bring you guys a
[33:30] little breakdown of everything that's
[33:31] happening. But
[33:34] sad sad what's happening. I really
[33:36] wanted to see that debate happen. Now,
[33:37] we're just going to see Candace
[33:39] responding to something. Uh,
[33:43] and and and here's how it's going to
[33:44] end. It's not going to end with Candace
[33:46] being like, "Hm, all these answers make
[33:48] a lot of sense." Okay, I didn't realize
[33:51] that. They're going to give answers that
[33:53] just aren't good enough or they're going
[33:56] to just call things certain things crazy
[33:58] and they're going to dismiss them.
[34:00] That's it. And by the time they're done
[34:02] that, their fa their their Philadelphia
[34:05] fans are going to be like, "Hooray."
[34:08] And all of us are going to be like,
[34:10] "Well, we're right back where we were
[34:12] because they didn't answer anything."
[34:13] That's that's how I see this ending,
[34:15] quite honestly. Anyways guys, I just
[34:18] wanted to bring that to you. I'm out of
[34:20] here.
