Candace Owens LEAKS Group Chat That Changes EVERYTHING About Charlie Kirk

[00:00] So, there's a place in the Middle East,

[00:03] okay? Uh, some people like it and some

[00:06] people don't like any place, but for

[00:09] some reason, we're not allowed to talk

[00:11] about this place. And I like to call

[00:13] this place Philadelphia. Okay,

[00:18] you'll see what I mean, but I hope you

[00:20] understand as the episode goes forward.

[00:23] Take it easy. Enjoy.

[00:28] Let's get into it. Now, I made one video

[00:32] about the relationship between Charlie

[00:34] and Candace and how Eric bullying her

[00:39] bowl bullying. He he he went on Patrick

[00:41] Bet David's podcast, said there was no

[00:43] relationship, said she hadn't been on

[00:46] tour at all with Turning Point uh in

[00:49] years. Hadn't heard from her since 2015.

[00:52] Uh said there was no relationship

[00:54] between her and Charlie. said it was

[00:55] like a quiet divorce in a in a in a

[00:58] sense. And then, you know, Candace and

[01:01] most people were able to produce a

[01:03] video, a whole speech that she gave

[01:06] while on tour with Turning Point in

[01:09] 2024.

[01:11] So, that wasn't true from the looks of

[01:14] it. Now, Candace has come through with

[01:17] more information showing that the the

[01:22] first narrative that popped up was

[01:24] Charlie was evolving his opinion on

[01:29] a place in the Middle East that I like

[01:31] to call Philadelphia.

[01:36] Keeps us safe and secure on this channel

[01:39] to call it Philadelphia. Philadelphia.

[01:42] I've always liked Philadelphia. Okay.

[01:46] Um,

[01:48] so basically she's showing that this is

[01:51] actually true and she has the proof in

[01:55] the form of actual messages from a group

[02:00] chat. Now, we're going to get into what

[02:01] this group chat actually is because

[02:05] there's

[02:07] it ha it has to be someone who is giving

[02:10] her this information. So, there's

[02:11] someone who is close enough at Turning

[02:14] Point to be in on this very small group

[02:17] chat that is willing to give this

[02:19] information to Candace. That's what it

[02:21] has to be because there's no way by what

[02:23] you're going to hear that Candace is

[02:24] actually inside that group chat. So,

[02:27] that opens up a whole other can of

[02:29] worms. Like, who who is on Candace's

[02:31] side at Turning Point? Is it more than

[02:33] one person? We don't know. But listen to

[02:34] this. knew for an absolute fact that

[02:38] Charlie was done was done with

[02:40] >> Philadelphia

[02:41] >> bullying him. That's what bothers me so

[02:43] much about this man. Him allowing these

[02:46] headlines. Charlie's pastor speaks out,

[02:48] you know, crushes Candace because of

[02:50] what she said not whatever. I don't like

[02:53] it. He knew

[02:56] and others knew that Charlie was done

[02:58] with

[02:58] >> Philadelphia.

[03:00] You're bullying him. And I am now going

[03:01] to present you proof of what I am

[03:04] saying. This is an actual group chat

[03:05] which happened two days before Charlie

[03:08] Kirk was assassinated. There were nine

[03:10] people in total on this chat including

[03:12] Charlie uh and Rob McCoy. I'm going to

[03:16] protect the names of the other seven for

[03:18] now. To be clear, I might actually

[03:20] release a name every day this week, but

[03:22] I want to show you this because suffice

[03:24] it to say, Rob McCoy was on this text

[03:27] thread, and I think it helps

[03:28] contextualize him as a person, in my

[03:30] view, that he would attack me for

[03:33] telling the truth about the pressure

[03:34] that he was facing. Take a look. So,

[03:37] Charlie writes in this group chat, "Just

[03:39] lost another huge

[03:40] >> Philadelphia

[03:41] >> donor, uh, 2 million a year because we

[03:45] won't cancel Tucker. I'm thinking of

[03:47] inviting Candace. Somebody writes,

[03:52] >> Charlie writes,

[03:53] >> Philadelphia

[03:54] >> donors play into all of the stereotypes.

[03:56] I cannot and will not be bullied like

[03:59] this, leaving me no choice but to leave

[04:02] the pro

[04:03] >> pro- Philadelphia

[04:05] >> cause.

[04:07] And somebody writes, Sedona writes,

[04:08] "Please do not invite Candace. That

[04:10] might feel good short term, but it's not

[04:12] good long term in my opinion. Like all

[04:14] groups, you're going to get a wide

[04:16] variety of opinions. That nasty free

[04:17] will thing that God bestowed on us makes

[04:19] life frustrating at times after the dust

[04:21] settles a bit maybe.

[04:24] So again, this is 48 hours before

[04:26] Charlie was assassinated. He was very

[04:28] clear and he was very explicit and he

[04:29] did not back down. Not in that Hampton's

[04:31] meeting, which they're all lying about,

[04:33] nor in this text thread. I'm not going

[04:35] to reveal the names of the other seven.

[04:37] Actually, you know what? I disagree with

[04:39] myself four seconds ago. Let's just

[04:40] throw in Josh Hammer for funsies. He's

[04:42] on this chat. Okay.

[04:44] So, what are we to make of that? Okay.

[04:46] Now that I'm showing you this and

[04:48] showing to you that the conversations

[04:50] were real, I want you to reflect. And it

[04:52] took me a lot of patience to allow the

[04:54] lies that were being woven and the

[04:55] misrepresentations of people that were

[04:57] pretending that I was just what high on

[05:02] lying about Charlie and the pressure he

[05:04] was under. the attacks that not just me,

[05:06] Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly faced for

[05:08] trying to stand up and tell the truth

[05:10] about what Charlie was actually going

[05:12] through. Why are you hearing it though

[05:14] from me and Tucker Carlson and Megan

[05:16] Kelly? Is that weird? You got people

[05:18] that are hosting a show. Have they in

[05:20] like one honorable thing come out and

[05:22] said like, "You know what? F a couple of

[05:24] these donors who made his life a living

[05:26] hell in the last couple of weeks. Why

[05:29] haven't they done that?"

[05:33] It's also also a rabbi in that chat.

[05:35] Like why hasn't anybody made that move

[05:39] to at least say to vindicate what I have

[05:42] been saying about what he was going

[05:43] through. That registers to me as very

[05:46] suspicious. I'm going to frankly say

[05:49] that it's suspicious to me. It makes me

[05:52] think that in the way in the same way

[05:54] that Charlie was being pressured by

[05:55] money that you might be now run by that

[05:59] same money that those same donors might

[06:01] be running you to correct the ship and

[06:04] to focus yourselves on eulogizing

[06:08] Charlie as something and someone that

[06:12] never once flinched, never once for a

[06:16] single second doubted the Israeli cause.

[06:23] Wow. Wow. Very, very interesting stuff,

[06:27] man. Again, going back to that text

[06:31] message that she released that she

[06:34] showed us just now, she given the way

[06:38] you you would agree, right? Given the

[06:39] way that the people were talking about

[06:41] Candace, there's no way she was in

[06:42] there. That wouldn't even made sense,

[06:44] right? So

[06:47] that means that somebody at Turning

[06:49] Point, she said there's seven people in

[06:52] that in that uh in that group chat.

[06:55] So we know that one was Charlie, so

[06:57] that's six people. She said one was Josh

[06:59] Hammer. That's five people. So that

[07:01] means there's five people that were in

[07:03] there that had to be close insiders that

[07:06] care enough or have seen enough to know

[07:10] that they need to be giving Candace this

[07:12] information. They need to be showing her

[07:14] these screenshots. They They even told

[07:17] her apparently who these these seven

[07:19] people in the chat were and she might

[07:21] release a name a day. What? She's such a

[07:24] She's such a Gotham Gotham villain.

[07:30] Why is she such a Gotham villain? You

[07:32] know what? I might release one name a

[07:34] day. We'll see what you think about

[07:37] that, Batman.

[07:39] It's very

[07:41] it's just just give us all the names.

[07:44] But one a day is pretty cool. You know,

[07:46] at the same time, she is amazing with

[07:48] information, but she also knows how to

[07:51] make sure that what she's doing stays

[07:55] seen. Like she's learned a lot from Yay

[07:57] in the past few years that she's been

[08:00] hanging around them. She's learned a lot

[08:02] of how to stay very relevant and and

[08:05] then on top of that, like amazing

[08:07] information at the same time. very very

[08:09] commendable. But yeah, somebody had to

[08:12] have given her that information. Who is

[08:14] that person? Who knows? Hopefully they

[08:16] stay safe because if I'm trying to

[08:19] figure it out and it's been released and

[08:22] this was 3 hours ago that this

[08:23] information was released, there's

[08:25] probably some other people that are

[08:26] trying to figure it out as well. So

[08:30] man, we'll see what happens. And then

[08:32] the whole thing of Philadelphia, I mean

[08:34] that whole Philadelphia thing is it's

[08:38] bad in this situation. Now, aside aside

[08:41] from all that, not even aside, something

[08:43] very weird happened. The person who

[08:45] posted this. They said this. Let me show

[08:49] you guys. They said

[08:53] they said turning point.

[08:55] They said turning point. Uh, we are

[08:58] seriously trying to navigate what

[08:59] happened to Charlie. They said Tyler

[09:01] Bowier, who claimed that he was the

[09:03] co-founder, and then Andrew Kovvet, not

[09:06] sure what he is in the company, but both

[09:08] of them were super close to Charlie. Uh,

[09:10] can you can either of you confirm or

[09:12] deny if this was a factual conversation

[09:14] that took place? You said you're

[09:15] committed to transparency. Here's your

[09:17] chance. Tyler actually responds to this

[09:19] person. I did not expect to see this at

[09:22] all. Tyler responds and says, "Everyone

[09:24] is trying to navigate working and

[09:27] working with the authorities who are

[09:28] investigating his murder." Okay. And

[09:31] then this person says, "Tyler, no one is

[09:33] trying to paint anyone as a bad guy."

[09:36] But that's not an answer. I'm assuming

[09:40] your lack of denial means it's a yes.

[09:42] The messages are true. Now, we, the

[09:45] majority of people, honestly, feel like

[09:47] we're not being told everything. Things

[09:49] don't add up. Maybe that's part of an

[09:51] ongoing investigation. Maybe not. But

[09:55] people are not confident with where we

[09:57] are right now. Ask people and they'll

[09:59] tell you no one feels like they're being

[10:01] told the truth. That's very, very true.

[10:04] We are being lied to. We were lied to

[10:06] about Candace's relationship with

[10:08] Charlie and were lied to about Charlie's

[10:10] evolving

[10:13] uh feelings towards the government of

[10:16] Philadelphia.

[10:18] Um,

[10:20] I love saying Philadelphia. Uh, it

[10:23] doesn't look good for Turning Point. We

[10:25] love the organization that Charlie

[10:26] built, but it doesn't look good. Tyler

[10:29] then in a back and forth. I did not

[10:31] expect this from this Tyler guy at all.

[10:34] Um, he really doesn't have to answer

[10:36] this. They don't really have to answer

[10:38] anything quite honestly. Uh, it's a

[10:39] pretty simple answer. Many of us are

[10:41] being painted as bad guys, quote

[10:43] unquote, because we can't respond to

[10:45] anyone except authorities. This notion

[10:48] that the turning point is bad because

[10:51] we're not doing a public thing like

[10:52] Candace is is not right

[10:55] now. Oh man, I just completely messed

[10:57] that up. Let me see. Go here. Now, uh,

[11:01] every person that has anything to say

[11:04] about Turning Point is trying to help

[11:06] the authorities investigate and lock up

[11:08] the bad guys. Villainizing anyone in is

[11:13] unfair to do. Uh, I have been with

[11:15] Charlie longer than anyone. I've seen a

[11:18] lot of bad takes all around. I'll

[11:20] reserve my opinions and just ask that

[11:22] people, please stop accusing innocent

[11:25] people of wrongdoing. It's unholy and

[11:28] it's all over your comments as well as

[11:31] Candace's. He's trying to kind of he's

[11:34] what's going on right now. He's kind of

[11:35] trying to accuse this guy of being the

[11:37] reason why so many people have these

[11:39] opinions, but it's actually not true.

[11:42] People just kind of have common sense.

[11:44] Everybody's able to find the videos and

[11:46] the clips and this and that. It's more

[11:48] than just two accounts that are doing

[11:50] this. This is a collective thing that's

[11:52] happening. You know, just like with

[11:54] every other thing that took place,

[11:57] people get together and they start

[11:58] talking, they start thinking about

[11:59] information.

[12:01] Uh uh the outcome, it's wrong and a bad

[12:04] way to treat people who are closest to

[12:05] the tragedy, including family, etc.,

[12:08] etc. Okay. Then he says here, somebody

[12:12] says, "If you can't respond to anyone

[12:14] except authorities, why are you

[12:15] responding to this? This makes it even

[12:17] more questionable. If you didn't do

[12:19] this, then why should it matter if you

[12:22] answer? Should it? It should. It

[12:24] shouldn't matter. If you answer, should

[12:25] it? Then Tyler comes again. This is

[12:27] somebody else. He's just responding to

[12:30] people. Very odd. I mean, I didn't

[12:33] expect this. Are you asking me to answer

[12:36] questions to speculate on my best

[12:38] friend's murder? And if I don't, then

[12:41] I'm guilty of something. Here's where

[12:43] all of that goes wrong. what the person

[12:47] the the the the the

[12:49] author of this post who posted this clip

[12:51] and everything. They're asking if the

[12:53] messages that Candice showed were real.

[12:58] That's what the person's asking. Can you

[13:00] verify that these are real messages? The

[13:03] answer is yes or no. He then goes into

[13:05] this whole thing of we're being painted

[13:07] as the bad guys and it's a pretty simple

[13:09] answer. You know, we're just trying to

[13:10] communicate with the authorities.

[13:14] Candace releasing these text messages, I

[13:17] would think, is not something the

[13:20] authorities are concerned about. Him, he

[13:23] can answer this. Both people who were

[13:25] questioned about this can answer. They

[13:28] can say yes, this is real or they can

[13:30] say no, this is not real. I I wouldn't

[13:33] see a world where they wouldn't be able

[13:35] to answer that. Especially if it wasn't

[13:38] real. They could say no. and Candace is

[13:41] a liar and this is a forgery. Never

[13:44] believe anything she says again. They

[13:47] could just end Candace's career, but

[13:48] instead he's like, "No, not that kind of

[13:52] person. I'm not going to be doing that.

[13:54] I'm going to reserve my opinions. I have

[13:56] the authorities that I have to answer

[13:58] to, and that's it." Nah, doesn't make

[14:01] any sense. That tells me that these

[14:03] messages are very real. Very, very real.

[14:05] And honestly, I don't think Candace

[14:07] would make up messages. And I don't

[14:10] think she got this from a random account

[14:13] saying, "Hey, Candace, check this out."

[14:14] If she did, that would be terrible. But

[14:17] it seems like for her know, for her to

[14:20] know the names of the group chat and to

[14:22] get access to these messages, these

[14:24] screenshots, someone in the group chat

[14:26] had to give her this information.

[14:27] There's a lot of people speculating a

[14:29] lot of things about this whole thing

[14:30] going on. And uh it's it's wild because

[14:34] yeah, they they were lying about Candace

[14:36] again. So Char, could you imagine, man,

[14:40] how great would that turning uh turning

[14:43] point event be?

[14:45] Charlie's still alive.

[14:48] He's trying to bridge that gap. He's

[14:50] trying to have real conversations

[14:53] at his event. Candace is back. Candace

[14:56] gives a speech. You know, maybe she

[14:59] answers questions. They start

[15:02] communicating again. They don't agree on

[15:04] everything. Charlie very much disagrees

[15:07] with her on a lot of things. Everybody

[15:08] knows that. But they start communicating

[15:11] openly, publicly.

[15:14] Then that turns into them talking with

[15:17] Nick. Then there's Candace, Tucker,

[15:20] Nick, Charlie. Charlie's trying to

[15:22] navigate these waters. And then he's

[15:24] bringing people who are staunchly on his

[15:26] side of things, his opinion, and they

[15:29] actually get to talk it out. There's a

[15:31] real conversation that's being had

[15:33] throughout America about this whole

[15:34] thing. Philadelphia, you know,

[15:39] that would have been nice. I mean, not

[15:41] even not even just nice for the people,

[15:43] nice for him to be able to really talk

[15:46] to his friend publicly,

[15:48] man. Too bad. Really too bad. The

[15:52] Quartering says, "Serious question.

[15:53] Let's assume these textes are real and

[15:55] that Charlie is 100% serious and not

[15:58] being sarcastic, which is totally

[16:01] possible.

[16:03] What exactly does this prove? Think

[16:06] before you reply, what does it prove

[16:10] other than someone close to him was fine

[16:13] leaking taxes for shame. Now, what I

[16:17] said was it kind of

[16:20] doesn't it confirm his evolving

[16:22] position, which everyone, including you,

[16:24] said wasn't true. Now, he didn't answer

[16:27] that. I'm not big enough for him to

[16:29] answer that kind of stuff yet. One day,

[16:34] they'll all have to answer when I

[16:36] message. When I comment on things,

[16:37] they'll all have to answer one day, but

[16:40] not yet. So, that went ignored. But, you

[16:43] know, I only bring that up to say that's

[16:45] the thing. When people said his opinion

[16:48] on Philadelphia was evolving,

[16:51] everybody was like, "That's not true."

[16:53] And then people were like, "Well, here's

[16:54] the clips. You can see 3 weeks ago he

[16:57] said this. Two weeks ago he said this,

[16:58] few days ago he said this, and now he's

[17:00] gone."

[17:02] They said, "That's not true. Look at

[17:04] this clip from a year ago, what he had

[17:06] to say then."

[17:08] And people would be like, "Okay."

[17:10] But now it turns out that that was an

[17:12] actual thing. It's not just some video

[17:15] clips that they can claim that people

[17:17] are taking out of context. It's an

[17:20] actual clip or sorry an actual text

[17:22] that's in context

[17:25] that shows that there was actual

[17:26] pressure. Makes you rethink what Candace

[17:29] said about the whole Hampton's thing and

[17:31] was that real when her and Bill Aman

[17:33] went at it back and forth.

[17:35] Makes you rethink it. Doesn't mean that

[17:37] it's all true,

[17:39] but it's like,

[17:42] you know, it's I'm telling you, it's

[17:44] just like the friendship thing. You said

[17:45] they weren't friends at all. You said

[17:47] they were not friends. Turns out they

[17:49] were.

[17:52] Man, you got to tell the truth. Uh

[17:54] Brandon Tatum, Officer Tatum, he's gone

[17:56] down such a weird weird road. I mean, I

[17:59] can't say that he's getting paid, but it

[18:01] seems like he is. I, you know, I'm not

[18:04] saying he is. It just seems like it, you

[18:07] know, just I don't know. It's weird.

[18:10] It's weird. But who knows?

[18:12] Unfortunately, Charlie cannot defend

[18:15] what he said in a on a private message

[18:18] he clearly did not intend to make public

[18:20] before he was taken away from us. That's

[18:23] true. That is true. What what Officer

[18:25] Tatum is saying there is true. He can't

[18:27] defend it, but why would he have to?

[18:30] See, that's that's the role that Tatum

[18:32] takes now. you know, he takes this weird

[18:34] role where he's saying these weird

[18:36] things. Listen, I said it before. I said

[18:39] it three years ago. There will be people

[18:42] who are YouTubers who will do the same

[18:45] job that the mainstream media does

[18:49] because they they stopped going to the

[18:51] mainstream media people. They're cutting

[18:53] salaries left and right on the

[18:54] mainstream media people and they're

[18:56] going to the YouTubers now and they're

[18:58] saying, "Here's absorbent amounts of

[19:00] money. All you have to do is say the

[19:03] things. And a lot of these people are t

[19:06] I'm not saying he's one of them.

[19:09] Not what I'm saying. I'm just saying

[19:11] there's going to be a bunch that are

[19:13] getting that type of thing going on.

[19:15] There has to be. And they're going to go

[19:17] to influencers and it's going to be Tik

[19:19] Tok people and it's going to be

[19:20] Instagram. They're going to go to those

[19:22] people 100%.

[19:25] No doubt in my mind. and they're going

[19:27] to find the youngest ones and they're

[19:28] going to get the oldest ones and they're

[19:30] going to get the left and they're going

[19:31] to get the right.

[19:33] Anyway, that's my uh that's my TED talk.

[19:37] Uh we may have been wrong about Candace.

[19:39] There's many people thinking that now.

[19:42] There's many people thinking that now,

[19:44] you know. And then this is Josh Hammer.

[19:47] Um you know, he's just author. He's a

[19:51] host of a podcast syndicated. I don't

[19:53] know this guy. Works for Newsweek. seems

[19:55] like a wellto-do guy. So, apparently he

[19:58] was in on this uh on this group chat.

[20:01] So, that's one person named. One person

[20:04] was Charlie. Candice should release five

[20:07] more names. Could you imagine she

[20:08] releases the name of the person who gave

[20:10] her the I guess she has to or else it

[20:13] looks a little weird. The next person

[20:15] she names might be the person that

[20:17] leaked it. You You never know. You There

[20:19] has to be like a tactical thing cuz if

[20:20] it's the last person, you look like the

[20:23] one that leaked it. If it's the first

[20:25] person, it's like, "Oh, Candace is out

[20:26] to get you." Uh, yeah. I think one of

[20:29] those names she releases to us is going

[20:31] to be the person that gave her the

[20:33] messages, man. But yeah, just just a

[20:36] wild occurrence, guys. I just wanted to

[20:37] bring that to you.

[20:40] Sad sad to see his opinions were

[20:44] evolving. And your opinions can evolve.

[20:47] Your opinions can evolve. It doesn't

[20:49] mean, you know, a as you learn things

[20:52] like like a lot of older people when

[20:55] they hear what my views are, they say

[20:56] I'm a classic liberal. That's what they

[20:58] say. They go, "Oh, you're not

[20:59] conservative. You're a classic liberal."

[21:01] And I go, "Oh, okay. Okay. You're older.

[21:04] Fine. Okay."

[21:07] And and because I see myself as

[21:09] conservative, I don't then push away

[21:12] everything that a classic liberal will

[21:15] believe. There's a lot of things that a

[21:16] conservative today believes pretty much

[21:18] almost everything almost that a classic

[21:21] liberal of 20 years ago, 30 years ago

[21:24] believed. So now I'm not going to push

[21:27] everything aside. You know, my opinion

[21:28] can evolve. I know I'm conservative. I

[21:30] know there's some things that'll be like

[21:32] classic liberal type stuff. I I'm just

[21:34] saying like as you learn and grow, it

[21:37] doesn't exactly mean that

[21:40] the way that you felt before is

[21:41] completely gone. It's just that you've

[21:43] also taken on these other things. And

[21:45] that's what was happening with Charlie.

[21:47] He was just starting to see some things.

[21:49] That's it.

[21:51] Oh man. Sad. Sad. What happened? Sad.

[21:55] Just sad. Sad what's happening to

[21:56] Candace, quite honestly.

[21:59] I mean, she even mentions it. She

[22:02] mentions it. She goes, "All these people

[22:03] were lying." She goes, "Like, all these

[22:05] people are just making things up about

[22:07] me."

[22:08] And it's true. People were just like,

[22:11] "She's just making things up. That's all

[22:13] she ever does is just make things up."

[22:17] And again, that same mainstream media

[22:19] mentality, when you see it enough, when

[22:21] you see it enough, you start to go,

[22:22] "Huh, is she making it up? Is she?" And

[22:25] then boom, something like this happens

[22:27] and you're like, "Ah, you almost got me.

[22:29] You almost got me, Tatum. You almost got

[22:32] me, officer."

[22:33] [Laughter]

[22:36] Hi, my name's Agent Colin. Hi, I'm Agent

[22:40] Colin. You can trust me. Hi.

[22:45] Anyways, guys, just wanted to bring that

[22:46] to you. I'm out of here.