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Categories: Analysis
December 18, 2025

Candace Owens has responded to criticism from podcaster Tim Pool, who first claimed Owens had no meaningful security and later asserted she used the same security team as Charlie Kirk. Owens says Pool is wrong on both counts, noting that she separated from Charlie Kirk’s security early on, hired her own team, and has never shared the same security apparatus, calling Tim Pool’s claims contradictory and false. Jimmy and Americans’ Comedian Kurt Metzger discuss Owens’ suggestion that accu

Candace Owens has responded to criticism from podcaster Tim Pool, who first claimed Owens had no meaningful security and later asserted she used the same security team as Charlie Kirk. Owens says Pool is wrong on both counts, noting that she separated from Charlie Kirk’s security early on, hired her own team, and has never shared the same security apparatus, calling Tim Pool’s claims contradictory and false.

Jimmy and Americans’ Comedian Kurt Metzger discuss Owens’ suggestion that accusations about her security are part of a broader attempt to discredit her and silence her questioning of Turning Point USA and its handling of security surrounding Charlie Kirk’s death. The segment concludes by criticizing TPUSA’s security failures, alleging dishonesty from its security representatives, and asserting that Owens’ continued scrutiny is justified rather than exploitative.

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[00:00] And you know what you told me? She has

[00:02] no security. She doesn't deal with the

[00:04] we have to deal with. She's a piece of

[00:07] >> She has security just on the level of

[00:09] you.

[00:09] >> Oh yeah, the one fat guy you mentioned

[00:11] with no wall and no barrier in a

[00:13] suburban neighborhood with neighbors.

[00:14] She doesn't give two. No one's out for

[00:16] her. She's lying about all of this.

[00:21] So Candace Owens um has been taking a

[00:24] lot of heat from a lot of people, but

[00:26] nobody more so than Tim P. So, um,

[00:30] >> not her audience though.

[00:31] >> No, not her audience.

[00:32] >> Just from people losing their audience.

[00:34] >> So, here's what she had to say. Watch,

[00:36] watch this.

[00:38] >> Creating and making things up. Tim P has

[00:41] now gone out and extraordinarily claimed

[00:44] that I have the same Oh, the

[00:47] >> Oh, come on.

[00:50] That's not Come on. I think that's a

[00:52] lowb blow that. You know, you you got to

[00:55] show that picture.

[00:57] >> If she play No, if she plays a clip of

[00:59] his band next, that's way too far.

[01:01] >> Yeah. Then I I have to get away from

[01:03] this. I can't have that toxicity

[01:04] tormenting.

[01:05] >> Again, I I like Tim P. I've been on his

[01:07] show. We're very friendly. But uh I I

[01:10] think that's a little low. Okay.

[01:11] >> Don't play his band either.

[01:12] >> Here we That's a little low. Here we go.

[01:14] >> Same security as Charlie Kirk and that

[01:17] I'm a fraud and actually I have the

[01:20] exact same security. You will recall

[01:21] that Tim just said a week ago that I

[01:25] have no security. Okay, this is Tim Pool

[01:26] a week ago.

[01:29] >> She is burning everything down and she's

[01:32] gloating and smiling while she does it.

[01:33] And you know what you told me? She has

[01:35] no security. She doesn't deal with the

[01:38] we have to deal with. She's a piece of

[01:40] >> She has security just not on the level

[01:42] of you.

[01:43] >> Oh yeah, the one fat guy you mentioned

[01:45] with no wall and no barrier in a

[01:46] suburban neighborhood with neighbors

[01:48] shouldn't give two. No one's out for

[01:50] her. She's lying about all of this. YOU

[01:52] TOLD ME YOU WENT TO HER HOUSE AND SHE'S

[01:54] GOT a 4ft wall and one fat guy and she

[01:57] doesn't give a about our security.

[02:00] >> So, that was like Tim last Monday. This

[02:02] is Tim who said, "I had no security

[02:04] except for one fat guy," which I told

[02:06] you was not true. Now, he's saying this.

[02:08] Take a listen.

[02:09] >> Uh, okay. Uh, I'll I'll say things that

[02:11] I probably shouldn't say, but I'm going

[02:12] to say because I always get super heated

[02:13] on this. Um, Candace Owens has the same

[02:16] security team as uh Turning Point and

[02:18] and and Charlie Kirk did.

[02:20] >> Wait a minute.

[02:23] Wait a minute. If if she had the same

[02:25] security team as Charlie Kirk, then

[02:27] wouldn't she be dead? [laughter]

[02:34] What if she has the same security team

[02:36] as Charlie Kirk? Why is she still alive?

[02:38] See, that's how I know it's not true.

[02:40] Cuz she she hasn't been publicly

[02:42] murdered after publicly correctly

[02:45] calling genocide a genocide,

[02:48] >> which is a genocide.

[02:49] >> Yeah, like Charlie did. And let's never

[02:51] forget Charlie Kirk said Gaza is a

[02:53] genocide, which I love sticking in the

[02:56] faces of dumb zocons.

[02:59] >> Um, so that would be that's that's just

[03:03] my opinion on that. If she did, she'd be

[03:05] dead already. But here we go.

[03:07] >> She's lying. She has the same security

[03:09] people. I've been digging into this.

[03:11] I've been meeting with people and

[03:12] talking with them and I shouldn't say

[03:13] too much because there's more that's

[03:14] going to be coming out soon cuz rest

[03:16] assured people are filing legal

[03:17] paperwork against her.

[03:18] >> Candace has the same security team or

[03:20] has used the same security companies and

[03:22] the same security personnel as Charlie

[03:24] and Erica did. So when she comes out and

[03:26] is questioning them, she is lying

[03:29] outright. Now I've invited many of these

[03:32] people to come on. We'll see what

[03:33] happens. We'll see when they can. The

[03:35] issue is the moment Candace goes on her

[03:37] show to millions of people and lies,

[03:40] litigation begins. And what happens when

[03:42] litigation begins? People don't do

[03:44] interviews about about it. She is

[03:46] exploiting this and she knows she is to

[03:49] keep people wrapped up in this insanity.

[03:51] >> H

[03:53] he Tim versus Tim undefeated. And what I

[03:56] will also say is that's all a lie. It's

[03:58] just it's that's what I'm it's almost

[03:59] like they have just sent a a call like

[04:03] they're getting too close and just said

[04:04] I don't care what you write. I don't

[04:06] care if it's complete fiction. Make it

[04:07] believable. Uh say her husband beats

[04:10] her. Say her like it it's coming after

[04:12] my husband. They're coming after me and

[04:14] they're making stuff up. I have never

[04:16] employed the same security team as

[04:18] Charlie Kirk ever. We went our separate

[04:21] ways early. actually back he there was

[04:23] like it's obviously been publicized

[04:25] before he had Schaefer security and

[04:27] Schaefer security which was run by Greg

[04:30] Schaefer who has issued a public

[04:31] statement they had Dan Flood and Brian

[04:33] Harpool working for them initially I

[04:36] told Charlie I did not like the security

[04:38] apparatus I got my own security separate

[04:40] from Charlie from the very beginning

[04:41] okay that's a fact it just is a fact

[04:44] there's no way to undo that fact trying

[04:45] to do this strategy of you're going to

[04:47] get sued is just threatening somebody if

[04:50] there was any truth to that legal. You

[04:53] can't just file legal paperwork. You

[04:54] have to send a cease and desist. You

[04:55] have to say something you said on your

[04:56] show was untrue. Can you please correct

[04:59] this? Okay. And if I ignore that, as I

[05:01] did with Breij cuz I told the truth, as

[05:03] I did with Kim Clay, cuz I told the

[05:05] truth, then you have the grounds to file

[05:07] something. We have received no cease to

[05:09] assist from Charlie security whatsoever.

[05:11] Over what? I mean, the audacity that

[05:13] you're filing a lawsuit and someone got

[05:14] murdered on your watch because I I

[05:17] accurately said that the Brian Harpole

[05:20] the message he showed belonged to Dan

[05:21] Flood. It did. And that they didn't do a

[05:24] walkthrough on that day. They didn't

[05:26] like. And if something I'm getting wrong

[05:28] and you'd like to show me that actually

[05:30] it did, send it. Send it over. We're

[05:33] only interested in getting the truth and

[05:34] we're not getting it. Uh we're certainly

[05:36] not expecting to get it from Tim Pool.

[05:39] That is that is crazy. That's that's

[05:40] just crazy town. But I do think that

[05:42] that is right now the Zionist strategy

[05:44] and that's why I want to encourage you

[05:45] guys to stay focused uh Wuka which we're

[05:48] going to have a lot on tomorrow uh

[05:50] because there's there is something there

[05:51] and I think that that caused a panic as

[05:54] well as the Egyptian planes which I am

[05:55] telling you go back uh relate to Israel

[05:57] and I will be able to prove that

[05:58] tomorrow for all of the naysayers and

[06:00] again it's only because this is how they

[06:02] act if they they they always overreact

[06:05] and then it lets us know that we are

[06:07] close they are like an alarm they are

[06:09] just an alarm Um, something else that I

[06:12] wanted to show you. By the way,

[06:15] >> so it seems to me, uh, now I I I think

[06:19] Tim P is a good guy. I've been on his

[06:22] show. We've been friendly. It seems to

[06:24] me that he's caught in a bit of a

[06:25] contradiction and I'm sure he can

[06:27] explain it. So, I look forward to him

[06:30] explaining it. And if he wants to come

[06:31] on the show and explain it, that'd be

[06:33] great, too. He's always welcome. Just

[06:35] like

[06:35] >> I used to watch your show all the time.

[06:36] I used to like his show before it became

[06:38] what it is. I used to I used to learn.

[06:39] See, I just want to learn something. I

[06:41] don't want to be told that the nonsense

[06:44] fluff about left right I want

[06:46] to learn a new fact that I didn't know

[06:48] before. And when I used to watch him, he

[06:50] did that. So, I take it like extra

[06:51] personal. You know, when I like the

[06:54] thing and then I can see you're not

[06:55] doing it anymore and I think you're

[06:57] being paid not to cuz you got a skate

[07:00] park for some reason. It makes me mad. I

[07:03] don't know. I take it hard.

[07:05] >> Oh, okay. Well, I don't have time. I

[07:07] watch very few shows and I have to

[07:08] confess I I was not a viewer of Tim's

[07:12] show. I'm sure it's that's no insult.

[07:13] I'm sure he doesn't watch this show.

[07:14] He's a busy guy. I'm a busy guy and so I

[07:17] only have a handful of shows that I can

[07:19] watch. And um if if that um but anyway,

[07:24] uh yeah, so it's it I'm it's it seems

[07:27] like a a strong contradiction. And by

[07:30] the way, I I have to say that the

[07:31] security team for Turning Point

[07:33] certainly came off like ONE FAT GUY.

[07:36] >> [laughter]

[07:40] >> I WILL SAY THAT

[07:42] >> there's a lot of fat phobia on this this

[07:44] one.

[07:45] >> So, um, so yeah, I mean, I'm sure I'm

[07:48] I'm sure there's it it appears to be a

[07:51] complete contradiction to us and to

[07:53] Candace. I'm sure Tim has an uh

[07:56] explanation for that and I look forward

[07:58] to it. And Tim wants to come on, please

[08:00] come on. I'd love to hear it. I'd rather

[08:02] have like a $20 an hour fat guy that

[08:04] knows how to look at a roof than a

[08:06] million-dollar guy where I'm dead after.

[08:08] How about that?

[08:10] >> So, his security team was either the

[08:12] most inept security team in the history

[08:14] of security teams or they were in on it.

[08:16] And I think they were in on it because

[08:18] the guy Harpull it lied his head off on

[08:21] CIA Shawn Ryan's podcast. He went on the

[08:24] CIA podcast. He got zero push back and

[08:26] he lied about everything he said. He

[08:29] said, "Remember what he said? Go. We We

[08:31] do our walk through. We build it

[08:33] ourselves.

[08:34] >> Except for the part where the killer

[08:35] was. We weren't allowed to. They said

[08:36] >> except you didn't have a guy standing at

[08:39] the doorway to the roof. You didn't make

[08:41] sure the door

[08:41] >> ground level instead of that. And And

[08:43] not only that, you didn't have someone

[08:44] looking at the roofs. So it was all

[08:47] lies. He didn't build it.

[08:49] >> He didn't do a walk through.

[08:51] >> He didn't It the ORM police are not

[08:53] awesome. None of that.

[08:55] >> It was absolutely stupid what he said.

[08:57] And only someone not paying attention

[08:59] would go, that's probably correct what

[09:01] he said. But if you watched it and

[09:03] you're not an idiot, you would notice

[09:05] there's huge problems with what he said.

[09:06] >> Huge. Well, just the just the biggest

[09:08] lie he told was about the drones. So, we

[09:10] know that they had drones flying because

[09:13] Frank Turk said that Charlie's team had

[09:15] drone footage of the event that they

[09:17] were showing him be as they were driving

[09:19] up to the event. So, we know that that

[09:22] Brian Harple guy lied. He lied. That's

[09:24] the biggest lie. That's easy to prove.

[09:27] And then all the other ones are easy to

[09:29] prove, too. He said he did a

[09:30] walkthrough. Didn't do it. We built it

[09:31] ourselves. You didn't. You didn't even

[09:34] have some. So, it was so easy to get to

[09:36] that roof. It was just a a walkway. It

[09:39] wasn't even a door. So, why wouldn't you

[09:41] have a security guy standing there to

[09:43] make sure nobody could get up on the

[09:44] roof? Or how about would you have a guy

[09:46] on the roof making sure he's looking at

[09:49] all the other roofs? Anyway, that's not

[09:51] that that's not what this is about. Um,

[09:53] but maybe it is. It is about how bad

[09:55] their security team was cuz they were

[09:57] horrible. Charlie Kirk security team.

[09:59] And if Candace had them guarding her,

[10:01] she'd be dead. All right. And if you

[10:03] want to hear my jokes about this, come

[10:04] see me uh January 11th in Wik Ki or

[10:07] January 30th in Los Angeles at the

[10:09] Comedy Store. Go to jimmy.com for a link

[10:11] for tickets. Hey, come see me on tour

[10:13] January 11th in Yik Ki, Hawaii and

[10:15] January 30th in Los Angeles at the

[10:17] Comedy Store. Go to jimmydor.com for a

[10:19] link for tickets.

[10:22] >> [music]

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