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Candace Owens Uncovered Erika Kirk's August 2025 Call with Murder Mystery Documentary Executives
Candace Owens revealed that Erika Kirk and Andrew Kolvet held a conference call with executives at Empress Films on August 28, 2025, just weeks before Charlie Kirk's assassination. Empress Films specializes in murder mystery documentaries covering controversial deaths like Ghislaine Maxwell, Marilyn Monroe, Jill Dando, and Princess Diana. Owens questioned why Erika, then known primarily as Charlie's Christian wife running a faith-based clothing brand, would be speaking with this left-leaning production company about an undisclosed project. The unexplained nature of this call, combined with Andrew Kolvet's involvement in what appeared to be personal PR work for Erika outside his normal Turning Point USA duties, raised significant questions about what documentary they might have been discussing.
The Mysterious August 28th Conference Call
Candace Owens uncovered a puzzling detail from the weeks before Charlie Kirk's assassination: on August 28, 2025, Erika Kirk and Andrew Kolvet participated in a conference call with top executives at Empress Films. The call included Eben Davidson (the company's executive producer who came from Paramount Pictures and ran their LA office), two unnamed producers, and founder Emma Cooper. Owens emphasized that the purpose of this call remains unknown and questioned why it was happening at all.
What made this particularly unusual was Andrew Kolvet's involvement. According to people who worked with Andrew, he handled public relations for Erika Kirk only in her capacity at Turning Point USA events — such as when she spoke at Faith events. Outside that specific role, he allegedly did not do PR work for her personally. Yet here he was on this call in late August 2025.
Who Was Erika Kirk in August 2025?
Owens reminded viewers of Erika's public profile at that time. In August 2025, Erika Kirk was virtually unknown to the broader world except as Charlie Kirk's devoted Christian wife. She attended some of his events where she encouraged young women to marry early, have many children, and avoid corporate ladder-climbing. This represented a newer version of Erika — not Erika Frantzve from her earlier life, but Mrs. Kirk focused on Christianity and faith.
She had also launched a Christian-based clothing brand called Proclaim 365, which she started around the time she met Charlie. Owens noted that this business "deserves an episode in and of itself" because she cannot determine how it functions or whether it operates as a profitable enterprise.
Understanding Empress Films
Empress Films is a relatively new production company established in 2020 by Emma Cooper. Cooper previously served as global president of non-scripted television at Pulse Films, where she worked on non-fiction films and series. After the massive global success of her hit Netflix documentary series "The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann" — about the extremely controversial disappearance of a little girl that spawned countless conspiracy theories — Cooper created Empress Films with a specific focus: murder mystery documentaries.
Owens repeatedly emphasized that murder mystery content is "their regular beat" and walked through the company's production history to establish this pattern.
Empress Films' Controversial Track Record
The company launched in 2021 with "Ghislaine Maxwell: Epstein's Shadow," a docu-series that received mixed reviews. Critics noted it was too soft on Maxwell, painting her as someone who merely inherited Jeffrey Epstein's secrets rather than an active participant. One reviewer described it as feeling like "a media puff piece about Ghislaine Maxwell," using her upbringing to excuse her behavior and positioning her almost as a victim herself.
Empress Films then produced "The Mystery of Marilyn Monroe: The Unheard Tapes," which took the state's position that Monroe's controversial death was not mysterious despite her involvement with the Kennedy brothers and the Hollywood intrigue surrounding her final days. Variety reviewed the documentary, noting: "We think we're hearing the beginning of a conspiracy theory and in a way we are, but Anthony Summers whose 1985 book Goddess, The Secret Lives of Marilyn Monroe is the basis of the documentary explicitly states that Monroe was not murdered." The documentary argued she died in a tailspin after being ghosted by JFK, devastated by the Kennedys cutting ties because their simultaneous affairs with her had become too risky.
Owens observed there is "a lot there" when examining Marilyn Monroe's death and she would not rule out murder — which is why the case stays relevant. She characterized the documentary as "another state secret that is kind of being justified in a way."
The company also directed "Who Killed Jill Dando," about the massive unsolved murder from the 1990s of a UK journalist shot point-blank in broad daylight. The murder sits at the center of numerous conspiracy theories, with people alleging Dando was working on a story about the former Yugoslavia war and that she was investigating a pedophile network at the BBC which included Jimmy Savile.
Additionally, Empress created a mini-series on Princess Diana's life and announced a follow-up docu-series in 2024 called "Who Killed Diana," exploring conspiracies around her death. They also produced "Depp versus Heard," showing both testimonies side by side and exploring the trial's online fallout, and "Killing Grounds Gilgo Beach Murders" about women found on Long Island connected to a 10-year serial killer case that became complicated when the suspect made a deal with federal authorities.
Why This Call Doesn't Make Sense
Owens stressed that Empress Films focuses exclusively on murder mystery content and is "remarkably left-leaning." She noted they are "proud feminists" who are "pro-LGBTQ" and referenced employees wearing shirts with slogans like "slay the patriarchy" and another shirt she couldn't fully read (possibly "never gender"). She clarified that people are allowed to start companies and espouse their own ideas, but this liberal orientation makes the match with Erika Kirk and Andrew Kolvet "very odd."
"Why are they on the phone? What is this call about? What documentary were they working on? And how would that have fit into the general picture of Empress Films at this time? That's what I'd like to know," Owens said. She and Baron Coleman discussed it and agreed: "this is weird. Very weird. And I don't know why it's weird, but it just feels weird for some reason."
The fundamental question remained: What would a Christian clothing company operator be discussing with a feminist, left-leaning murder mystery documentary production company? "What are they going to do a documentary on Erica's clothing company? A Christian clothing company partnering with this feminist... I don't know. Doesn't register to me as correct," Owens concluded.
Video Transcript
the focus of this company
is murder mystery.
And I just would like to know, I'd like
to ask, I would like to understand what
is the context of this call. This time,
you and Erica, it's regarding August
28th, right? A couple of weeks before uh
Charlie's passing. I want to speak about
that date because there's just something
that happened that registers to me as a
bit odd because to my knowledge and
having having spoken to people with
direct knowledge,
Andrew Kolbatz should not have been
doing public relations well public
relations for Erica Kirk uh in August of
2025 outside of her uh involvement with
Turning Point USA. Faith, if she's
coming to speak at an event, I am told
that in that capacity they would handle
her media. Outside of that, it was not
something that they regularly did or did
ever.
Um so, I will say allegedly, but that is
coming from people who worked with
Andrew. Now, I want you to remember
who Erica was on August 28th, 2025. She
was virtually unknown to the world um as
anyone other than Charlie Kirk's doting
Christian wife who attended some of his
events to encourage women to get married
young and to have tons of children and
not to climb the corporate ladder. This
was a, you know, newer iteration of
Erica. It was definitely not Erica Fronz
Faye, but this this was Mrs. Kirk and it
was all about Christianity and faith and
she had this um Christian base based
clothing brand which she started right
when she met Charlie called Proclaim
365,
which by the way, that deserves an
episode in and of itself because for
life of me, I cannot figure out how it
functions or if it functions as a
profitable business.
Um but I digress.
Yeah, curiously on August 28th, 2025, I
learned that Erica had a call with
Andrew Kolbatz and executives at a
company called Empress Films, right?
Empress Films.
Now, what is Empress Films? I'm going to
take you through it really quickly. Uh
what was the call about? That's what I'd
like to know. Why was she on the phone
with the company's top brass? I'd like
to know that, too. Namely, this um this
conference call was with Eben Davidson,
who was the company's exec- it is the
company's executive producer. He came
out of a long tenure with Paramount
Pictures, and he was running the LA
office for Empress Films.
It was also Also on the call was two
producers who I'm not going to name,
plus the founder of Empress Films, which
is a woman named Emma Cooper. The
company's relatively new, established in
2020.
Their backstory is that Emma Cooper was
previously the global president of
non-scripted television at Pulse Films,
where she worked on non-fiction films
and series. And then following
uh what was a massive global success of
her hit Netflix documentary series, uh
which was entitled The Disappearance of
Madeleine McCann,
extremely controversial disappearance,
if you recall, a little girl, lots of
conspiracy theories that went with that.
Um she
Emma Cooper created then Empress Films,
uh where she was going to chase
basically um
making that the regular beat of the
company, murder mystery. She's done a
lot of work with murder mystery stuff in
general, and now Empress Films was going
to be like, "That's our thing, murder
mystery."
I I'm going to keep emphasizing that to
you.
They're a newer company. Murder mystery
is their regular beat, okay?
I'll take you through what they had
produced leading up to this call with
Erica and Andrew. Interestingly enough,
in 2021,
they launched with the docu-series
Ghislaine Maxwell:
Epstein's Shadow. I kid you not. You can
go and find this on their Instagram just
scrolling up from "Hi, we're here. We're
new." First thing they then promote is
Ghislaine Maxwell: Epstein's Shadow.
It's a documentary that is, of course,
sympathetic to Ghislaine Maxwell,
cuz all she did was sort of inherit
Jeffrey Epstein's secrets or something.
Now, admittedly, I did not watch the
series, but I did take a look at the
reviews and it received a mixed
reaction. Most notably, people were
criticizing it for being too soft on
Ghislaine. That became this narrative
like she's she was just the friend of
Jeffrey Epstein, kind of painting her as
a victim herself
was and they kind of used her upbringing
to excuse her behavior. One person even
described the documentary as saying that
it felt like a media puff piece about
Ghislaine Maxwell.
Okay. Empress Films then also released
the Mystery of Marilyn Monroe. Very
controversial controversial death in
America. It was called The Unheard Tapes
and yes, they of course take the state's
position which is nothing to see here
about this death.
It's not mysterious at all. Now, you
know, she was involved with the Kennedy
brothers. This is Hollywood. There was a
lot going on, but Vanity Fair was um
they did a review and said this we
thought it was going to be a conspiracy
theory, but they're taking the state's
position. Oh, sorry, Variety not Vanity
Fair did a review
and they wrote quote, we think we're
heading we're hearing the beginning of a
conspiracy theory and in a way we are,
but Anthony Summers whose 1985 book
Goddess, The Secret Lives of Marilyn
Monroe is the basis of the documentary
explicitly states that Monroe was not
murdered. The result of her tangle of
destiny was simply that the Kennedys who
had been tempting fate by carrying on
simultaneous affairs with the world's
most coveted movie star were told that
they needed to cut ties with her. It had
become too risky and so they did and it
devastated her. Coming after a year of
erratic behavior where she'd barely
gotten through the shoot of The Misfits
being dumped by the Kennedys has sent
her into a tailspin. JFK didn't even say
anything to her. She was ghosted. She
died not long after. So again, the
state's narrative there was a lot I
don't know if you've ever if you've ever
looked into the death of Marilyn Monroe.
There's a lot there, okay?
There is a lot there. I certainly would
not rule out a murder at all. That's why
it stays relevant.
And it feels like another state secret
that is kind of being justified in a
way.
Empress also then directed who killed
Jill Dando. Now, uh this name is not
familiar to people that in in America
very much is familiar to people in the
UK. It was a massive unsolved murder
from the '90s of a UK journalist who was
basically shot point-blank in broad
daylight. Um and the murder has been at
the center of a lot of conspiracy
theories since. People alleging that at
the time of her murder, she was working
on a story about former Yugoslavia, what
was going on with that war, as well as
many people who claim that she was
actually investigating a pedophile
network at the BBC, which included Jimmy
Savile. Uh again, I'm just telling you
just taking you through what this
company does. Uh they also created a
mini-series on Princess Diana. It was
entitled Diana
on her life, and they are following up
with that docu-series with Who Killed
Diana, which was announced in 2024
exploring the conspiracies around her
death.
Uh and they did Andrew I'm sorry, they
did Depp versus Heard. So, they did
Johnny Depp versus Amber Heard, and this
I'm assuming was just because it was
going on and in the news. They showed
both testimonies side by side exploring
the trial and the online fallout that
ensued.
Then they did Killing Grounds Gilgo
Beach Murders. Okay. Like I mean, if you
guys
a bunch of women that are found in Long
Island, it's like
10-year serial killer. The guy then does
a deal with the feds, and then first
says he's not guilty, and then says he's
guilty after doing a deal with the feds
to like submit himself for behavioral
analysts. I It's totally bonkers. I'm
I'm not going to get into it like I'm
because I'm making a broader point that
the focus of this company
is murder mystery.
And I just would like to know, I'd like
to ask, I would like to understand what
is the context of this call that Erica
and Andrew had. What would they have
been working on in in August of 28th
with this company, who I do would also
like to say is remarkably left-leaning.
Like they are proud feminists at the
Empress Films. They are like, you know,
pro-LGBTQ.
They wear that for fun around the
office. Like, you know, whatever. Not F
the patriarchy, but one of them was
wearing a shirt. And it doesn't matter
who these people are. They're just
random employees. But like, slay the
patriarchy. And um
what what does her her shirt say there
on the left? Something
What does it say?
Never gender. I can't see cuz it's a
little too small for me. My eyesight
gets so bad at the end of pregnancy. Um
but, you know, the point is is that they
were they're just liberal, which is
fine. This is that you're allowed to
start your own company and you're
allowed to espouse your own ideas. And
it just makes it even more of an odd
match for Erica Kirk and Andrew Colbeth.
Like, in my opinion, it's a very odd
match. Why are they on the phone? What
is this call about? What documentary
were they working on? And how would that
have fit into the general picture of
Empress Films at this time? That's what
I'd like to know. Just seems weird to
me. And I find that little bit to be
interesting. And Baron Coleman and I
were discussing it and we're like, this
is weird. Very weird. And I don't know
why it's weird, but it just feels weird
for some reason.
Um when you are just running a clothing
company. Like, what are they going to do
a documentary on Erica's clothing
company? A Christian clothing company
partnering with this feminist I don't I
don't know.
Doesn't register to me as correct.
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