Charlie and Vivek Explain Why People are Poor

[00:00] hi oh my name is Aaron I'm a really big

[00:02] fan and I'm really excited to see both

[00:04] of you um I'm a little stressed because

[00:07] I feel like I could ask about you know

[00:09] gun violence I could ask about

[00:10] anti-Semitism on campus but I feel like

[00:12] with a opportunity like this I would

[00:14] really um appreciate some personal

[00:17] advice I'm here at the University of

[00:19] Pittsburgh as a social work major and

[00:21] I'm really passionate about it however I

[00:24] have found um that I'm leaning a little

[00:26] bit more Republican and I feel like I

[00:28] come at a standstill with that and I I

[00:31] really just want to get your advice

[00:33] moving forward for myself there's some

[00:35] obvious things I think you can think

[00:38] that would

[00:39] conflict obviously um I guess that's

[00:42] kind of my question what advice do you

[00:44] have for me as a republican aspiring

[00:46] social worker what would

[00:49] conflict I don't know like how to say it

[00:52] properly I I think I can help it the the

[00:55] social work industry is very much

[00:57] about a perspective generally of that

[01:01] people in poverty are there permanently

[01:04] and not trying to break people out of

[01:05] poverty into the middle class or higher

[01:07] levels right and that's why the Democrat

[01:09] Party and social work are very

[01:10] intertwined right exactly they view

[01:12] poverty not as a series of choices but

[01:14] as a um as a station in life that is

[01:19] immovable largely is that fair to say

[01:21] that is fair to say that's why my

[01:23] personal focus is on um the children in

[01:25] underprivileged communities because I

[01:27] personally feel like they they don't

[01:28] choose to be put in that position but

[01:31] I'm having a little bit of a difficult

[01:33] time empathizing with um the older

[01:37] generation of underprivileged and not in

[01:39] every Community but I I don't I don't

[01:42] know how to I don't know like how to not

[01:44] sound bad I know you are great at not

[01:47] sounding bad when you say stuff but I

[01:49] don't want to say something that'll get

[01:50] me in trouble well here's here's one way

[01:52] to look at it and Char that was helpful

[01:55] actually the Great Society from Lyndon

[01:58] Johnson it was a series of policies that

[02:00] were designed to help underprivileged

[02:01] communities right they hurt the very

[02:04] people they were supposed to help how

[02:06] well the reality is it created

[02:07] dependence on government so you have a

[02:09] lot of single mothers for example that

[02:10] are paid more money not to have a man in

[02:13] the house than to have a man in the

[02:15] house because of the way the math of

[02:16] these Aid programs what do you mean well

[02:18] often you the way the math of the aid is

[02:20] calculated is if you have an earning

[02:21] husband in the household that actually

[02:23] causes you to disqualify for forms of

[02:25] Federal Aid that were designed to help

[02:27] you right but actually the best way to

[02:29] get kids in your own household ahead is

[02:31] in a two- parent household because if

[02:32] you're raised in a two parent household

[02:34] you're less likely to end up in jail

[02:35] less likely to end up in poverty more

[02:37] likely to graduate from high school so

[02:39] one of the ways that if you're asking

[02:41] for advice I would say for the people

[02:42] around you even who might lean left you

[02:44] can recognize their intentions come from

[02:46] a good place absolutely but the policies

[02:49] of their leaders have actually betrayed

[02:51] the very people they were supposed to

[02:53] help and you can let them know cuz I

[02:55] believe this is genuinely true not just

[02:56] the Republican party but our

[02:58] conservative Movement we care about

[03:00] lifting people up from poverty we just

[03:02] care about actually doing it rather than

[03:03] talking about it that's what I would say

[03:04] the other thing I'll say is that we as

[03:06] conservatives believe that if you're in

[03:08] poverty it's largely because of values

[03:11] not because of lack of stuff like what

[03:13] values um not saving money uh spending

[03:17] all of your money in your paycheck as

[03:18] you get it for example um abandoning

[03:21] your spouse after uh

[03:23] impregnating um not uh not spending all

[03:27] of your money on alcohol and drugs and

[03:28] instead opening a

[03:30] 401K um so values are the number one

[03:34] predictor of entering the middle class

[03:37] and there's a great book called life at

[03:39] the bottom you should read it by

[03:40] Theodore Dal rmle who is a social worker

[03:43] in the United Kingdom it's called life

[03:44] at the bottom where he got into social

[03:46] work because he wanted to help people

[03:48] and he realized it was not a lack of

[03:50] stuff it wasn't lack of housing lack of

[03:52] food stamps it was that their value

[03:55] system was one that kept them poor so

[03:59] yeah really quick want get to next I'm

[04:00] just struggling because in all of my

[04:02] social work classes right now they're

[04:03] talking about all of those things and

[04:05] they're wrong so what do I do I'm trying

[04:07] to learn about what I want to do I I I

[04:10] think you need to stay in social work

[04:11] because you're called to do it but

[04:13] there's an amazing amount of literature

[04:14] from Thomas soul to Shelby steel to

[04:17] Theodore Dal rmle that get down to

[04:19] actual root causes of poverty which is

[04:21] not lack of stuff but is worldview and I

[04:24] think that' be super helpful thank you

[04:25] so much God bless you Trump 2024 yes

[04:27] that you want to hat yes great thank you

[04:29] yeah

hi oh my name is Aaron I'm a really big fan and I'm really excited to see both of you um I'm a little stressed because I feel like I could ask about you know gun violence I could ask about anti-Semitism on campus but I feel like with a opportunity like this I would really um appreciate some personal advice I'm here at the University of Pittsburgh as a social work major and I'm really passionate about it however I have found um that I'm leaning a little bit more Republican and I feel like I come at a standstill with that and I I really just want to get your advice moving forward for myself there's some obvious things I think you can think that would conflict obviously um I guess that's kind of my question what advice do you have for me as a republican aspiring social worker what would conflict I don't know like how to say it properly I I think I can help it the the social work industry is very much about a perspective generally of that people in poverty are there permanently and not trying to break people out of poverty into the middle class or higher levels right and that's why the Democrat Party and social work are very intertwined right exactly they view poverty not as a series of choices but as a um as a station in life that is immovable largely is that fair to say that is fair to say that's why my personal focus is on um the children in underprivileged communities because I personally feel like they they don't choose to be put in that position but I'm having a little bit of a difficult time empathizing with um the older generation of underprivileged and not in every Community but I I don't I don't know how to I don't know like how to not sound bad I know you are great at not sounding bad when you say stuff but I don't want to say something that'll get me in trouble well here's here's one way to look at it and Char that was helpful actually the Great Society from Lyndon Johnson it was a series of policies that were designed to help underprivileged communities right they hurt the very people they were supposed to help how well the reality is it created dependence on government so you have a lot of single mothers for example that are paid more money not to have a man in the house than to have a man in the house because of the way the math of these Aid programs what do you mean well often you the way the math of the aid is calculated is if you have an earning husband in the household that actually causes you to disqualify for forms of Federal Aid that were designed to help you right but actually the best way to get kids in your own household ahead is in a two- parent household because if you're raised in a two parent household you're less likely to end up in jail less likely to end up in poverty more likely to graduate from high school so one of the ways that if you're asking for advice I would say for the people around you even who might lean left you can recognize their intentions come from a good place absolutely but the policies of their leaders have actually betrayed the very people they were supposed to help and you can let them know cuz I believe this is genuinely true not just the Republican party but our conservative Movement we care about lifting people up from poverty we just care about actually doing it rather than talking about it that's what I would say the other thing I'll say is that we as conservatives believe that if you're in poverty it's largely because of values not because of lack of stuff like what values um not saving money uh spending all of your money in your paycheck as you get it for example um abandoning your spouse after uh impregnating um not uh not spending all of your money on alcohol and drugs and instead opening a 401K um so values are the number one predictor of entering the middle class and there's a great book called life at the bottom you should read it by Theodore Dal rmle who is a social worker in the United Kingdom it's called life at the bottom where he got into social work because he wanted to help people and he realized it was not a lack of stuff it wasn't lack of housing lack of food stamps it was that their value system was one that kept them poor so yeah really quick want get to next I'm just struggling because in all of my social work classes right now they're talking about all of those things and they're wrong so what do I do I'm trying to learn about what I want to do I I I think you need to stay in social work because you're called to do it but there's an amazing amount of literature from Thomas soul to Shelby steel to Theodore Dal rmle that get down to actual root causes of poverty which is not lack of stuff but is worldview and I think that' be super helpful thank you so much God bless you Trump 2024 yes that you want to hat yes great thank you yeah