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Charlie Kirk is the Founder and President of Turning Point USA, the largest and fastest growing conservative youth activist organization in the country with over 250,000 student members, over 150 full-time staff, and a presence on over 2,000 high school and college campuses nationwide. Charlie is also the Chairman of Students for Trump, which aims to activate one million new college voters on campuses in battleground states in the lead up to the 2020 presidential election. His social media reaches over 100 million people per month and according to Axios, he is one of the "top 10 most engaged" Twitter handles in the world. He is also the host of “The Charlie Kirk Show,” which regularly ranks among the top news shows on Apple podcast charts.
Subscribe on YouTubeCharlie Kirk on Trump's Tariffs Plus Deregulation Strategy and the Path to Economic Independence from China
Charlie Kirk breaks down President Trump's economic approach, combining tariffs with massive deregulation and tax cuts to rebuild American manufacturing. Kirk argues this differs fundamentally from socialist tariff policies, as Trump simultaneously liberates the domestic economy while creating trade barriers. He emphasizes that DEI regulations have been a silent albatross on corporate America, making the country less competitive. With Senator Eric Schmitt, Kirk explores the reconciliation process, potential spending cuts, and why America's position as the world's premier consumer economy gives Trump leverage in trade negotiations with 70-plus countries now coming to the table.
Trump's Unique Tariff Strategy Combined with Economic Liberation
The market has experienced turbulence, but positive indicators are emerging. The inflation report shows terrific numbers, interest rates are plummeting, and oil prices are dropping significantly. Deregulation is happening at a pace not seen in years. While President Trump famously said that for every one new regulation, we should eliminate two regulations, the argument can be made that we shouldn't add any new regulations at all—just slash five, six, or seven thousand lines of regulation that make it harder for businesses to operate, hire, and deploy capital.
Maria Bartiromo points out that decreasing oil prices will be felt at the pump within two weeks. Interest rates are going down, and by the end of the year, we might see a significant cut in rates which will help first-time home buyers. President Trump is not going to bend on his commitment to build an economy that is independent rather than relying on China for things like prescription drugs.
The Critical Difference Between Trump's Tariffs and Socialist Tariffs
The contrast between what President Trump is doing with tariffs versus what someone like Bernie Sanders would do is incredibly important. If Bernie Sanders were to implement tariffs, he would create a domestic controlled socialist economy. What President Trump is doing is incredibly unique—he is implementing tariffs while liberating the American market economy. It's exactly the right ingredient.
Tariffs are trade barriers, but you can avoid a tariff by making products here. One of the reasons we've been falling behind on manufacturing is because it's so hard to build new factories. One of the greatest regulations of all is DEI. DEI is the silent regulation that is an albatross around the neck of corporate America. DEI makes us less competitive, less entrepreneurial, and causes us to take fewer risks. It prioritizes equity and racial parity or racial preferences over excellence.
DEI was written into every single corporate handbook by soft corporate and soft cultural decree post-Floyd. It was more about outcomes over opportunity—honestly about a very perverted tribal racial preference doctrine that was force-fed into corporate America.
Making America Both a Consumer and Production Economy
What President Trump is attempting to do is liberate the American economy through massive tax cuts, deregulation, and an energy boom while having trade barriers. That mixture should work. People voted for this. There would be grave concerns about tariffs if President Trump was talking about massive tax increases, more regulation, more government programs, more government redistribution and tariffs—because then why would anyone want to do business here?
What President Trump is doing is making it more appealing to invest while also having a penalty to not invest. He's doing both things simultaneously. He's making the penalty to not invest be higher because we are the world's consumer. We are the premier consumer economy on the planet. Every country desires to be a consumer economy. Every country wants to be a consumer economy. We have achieved that. We also now want to go back to being an industrial economy.
Here's the secret: it's so much easier to rebuild an industrial sector than suddenly become a consumer economy. In order to become a consumer economy, you must be insanely rich. Very few countries are insanely rich. China can't be a consumer economy internationally. They can domestically because they don't want other countries' stuff to be sold in their country. Being a consumer economy is not necessarily bad. What is bad is also not being a production economy. If you are both, you are a superpower the likes of which the world has never seen. And we can get that back.
The Budget Resolution and Reconciliation Process
Senator Eric Schmitt from Missouri provided analysis on the House passing the budget resolution. The budget resolution sets the framework by which we now move into the reconciliation process. It unlocks the process for the committees to go do the work, like Ways and Means or the Senate Finance Committee, to start to put meat on the bones of these ideas that have been talked about—principally making the tax cuts from 2017 permanent and extending those.
The resolution includes provisions for no tax on tips, money for border security and deportations, defense funding, permitting reform on energy, and spending reforms. In 2019, we were spending about $4 trillion. We spend $7 trillion after the last four years of the Biden budget and the COVID spending. We take in five trillion. If we can actually have some reform and bend that curve, have revenues with all of the good things that are happening with President Trump catch up, it's realistic to think we can have a balanced budget in a few years.
If the House can hang together and Senate Republicans can hang together on this, we don't need a single Democrat vote. The reconciliation process only takes a simple majority in the Senate.
Where Spending Cuts Can Come From
The amount of money we are borrowing is extraordinary. When COVID happened, we decided to just put back all of our fiscal impulses of fiscal discipline and have decided to basically embrace the cheap money guzzle. There are rumors that we might increase the Department of Defense budget to a trillion dollars. The greatest threat to our national security is our national debt, not even any existential foe.
We spend a trillion dollars a year on the interest on that $36 trillion debt. That's only going to grow as some of these things become more mature and they need to be refinanced with higher interest rates over the last few years because of Biden inflation. There are two ways to find savings. One is discretionary spending that Doge is finding. Take USAID as an example—all of that money going to gender programs, DEI in Burma, LGBTQIA programming and Sesame Street in Iraq. That all adds up.
Marco Rubio said that 83% of the stuff we were doing, we're not going to do that anymore. The 17% that remains, we're going to move in further American interests overseas. Work requirements are broadly popular. If you're an able-bodied adult, you should be required to work. That explosion under Obamacare is really affecting people who need it most on Medicaid. When President Trump talks about making sure we're not touching Social Security, not making sure we're touching benefits on Medicare or Medicaid, we're all with him in lockstep, but we got to make sure that the able-bodied population that's not working stops draining the system.
If we just went back to pre-pandemic spending—2019 spending levels plus inflation and population growth—that's like a trillion dollar difference than what we're spending right now.
Tariff Strategy and Trade Fairness
Missouri has a lot of once mighty industry and also a fair amount of exporting and international business. Permanent Washington is totally disconnected from what's really happening. The global elites have had their run after World War II. We had all these favorable deals for countries who were trying to get back on their feet—Germany, Japan, all these countries—with the goal of defeating Soviet communism. We won. After the Cold War ended though, we didn't adjust at all.
You can't buy or you don't see an American car in Europe. You don't see an American car in Japan. You don't see an American car in Korea. Yet all of their cars are in our markets because they have erected these barriers over time through tariffs, trade barriers, and in China specifically, stealing our IP. It's been very unfair to us. In blue collar neighborhoods, all those good paying factory jobs went overseas. We got fentanyl in exchange.
America isn't an economic zone. America isn't some strip mall with an airport attached to it. It's a people. It's a place. It's our home. We finally have a president that's willing to stand up and say, "You know what? We've been treated very unfairly. We're going to treat you like you treat us." And now look what's happening. Seventy countries plus have come to the table and said, "We heard what you had to say. We understand the United States of America is 39% of all the consumption in the world. It's 25% of the world's GDP. It's a very important market for us. So we're going to lower our trade barriers so that we can actually have fair trade."
China Versus Everyone Else
There are two different buckets: communist China and everybody else. China is the worst offender. They made a terrible decision in trying to escalate this. They rip off our IP. They steal our jobs. They create trade barriers. They say, "Oh yeah, no, you can't sell your chickens here because you didn't wash them properly, or you can't sell your electronics here because there's this bolt that's out of place." So it's not just the tariffs, it's all the other hidden trade barriers that prevent our goods getting to market.
They export five times more than we export to them. They have a hell of a lot more to lose in this if they continue down this path. The rest of the world is coming to the table, and at the end of the day it's going to lead to greater prosperity for us because we're going to have more markets open. We'll have more revenue coming into this country and we'll bring back industry, those good paying jobs that we had for a very long time that didn't need to go somewhere else.
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understand that yes, the market has been
going through a fair amount of
turbulence, but there are other very
positive indicators as well. Inflation
report yesterday was terrific. We are
seeing interest rates plummeting. We're
also seeing oil prices plummeting,
deregulation is happening. We need to
get rid of so much of the nonsensical
Biden era deregulation. You know,
sometimes people say, "Charlie, what do
you disagree with President Trump on?" I
don't even know if this is a
disagreement. President Trump will
famously said, "Well, for every one new
regulation, we have to get rid of two
regulations." I think you shouldn't add
any new regulations and get rid of five,
six, 7,000 lines of regulation. Who says
you have to add new ones? Just slash
these ridiculous, nonsensical rules that
are on the regulatory book that make it
harder for businesses to be able to
operate, to hire, and deploy capital.
Maria Barard Romo says this perfectly
that we are seeing a decrease in oil
prices which you are going to feel at
the pump in the next two weeks. We are
seeing interest rates go down which by
the by by the end of the year we might
see a significant cut in rates which
will help first-time home buyers. Play
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130. That's what we've been pointing out
this morning and the president has been
pointing it out. Rates are plummeting.
Oil prices are plummeting. deregulation
is happening. You know, we we've got
we've got all of these things happening.
President Trump is not going to bend. He
he he he told me uh you know, a number
of times that he's trying to build the
economy and make it independent as
opposed to relying on China for things
like prescription drugs.
Now, now I have to further explain the
contrast what President Trump is doing
with tariffs versus what someone like
Bernie Sanders would do with tariffs.
And it's an incredibly important
distinction. Let's say it was Bernie
Sanders who once supported tariffs and
in a tepid way says, "Yeah, you know,
we'll do tariffs." The difference is
that if President Bernie Sanders, you
know, God save us from such a thing,
would do tariffs, he would create a
domestic control socialist economy. What
President Trump is doing is incredibly
unique is that he is doing tariffs while
liberating the American market economy.
It's exactly the right ingredient. So
tariffs are trade barriers. However, you
can avoid a tariff by making products
here. One of the reasons why we've been
falling behind on manufacturing is
because it's so hard to build new
factories. And one of the greatest
regulations of all is
DEI. I believe DEI is the silent
regulation that is an albatross around
the neck of corporate America. DEI makes
us less competitive. It makes us less
entrepreneurial. It makes us take less
risks. It prioritizes equity
and racial parity or racial preferences
over excellence. And you must choose.
DEI is like the silent regulation that
was written into every single corporate
handbook by soft corporate and soft
cultural decree post Floyd Palooa. It
was more about outcomes over
opportunity. And not even about
outcomes. It was honestly about a very
perverted tribal racial preference
doctrine that was force-fed into
corporate America. So what President
Trump is attempting to do is liberate
the American economy through massive tax
cuts,
deregulation, energy boom while having
trade barriers. And that
mixture should work. Again, we don't
know. But you must remember people voted
for this. I would have grave concerns
about tariffs if President Trump was
talking about massive tax increases,
more regulation, more government
programs, more government redistribution
and tariffs because then why would
anyone want to do business here? What
President Trump is doing is he's making
it more appealing to invest while also
having a penalty to not
invest. So, he's doing both those
things. He's making the penalty to not
invest be higher because we are the
world's consumer. We are the premier
consumer economy on the planet. Every
country desires to be a consumer
economy. Every country wants to be a
consumer economy. We have achieved that.
We also now want to go back to be an
industrial economy. And here's the
little secret. It's so much easier to
rebuild an industrial sector than
suddenly become a consu a consumer
economy. Because in order to become a
consumer economy, you must be insanely
rich. Very few countries are insanely
rich. And China is can't be a consumer
economy internationally. They can
domestically because they don't want
other countries stuff to be sold in
their country. Well, more for us. Being
a consumer economy is not necessarily
bad. What is bad is also not being a
production economy. If you are both, you
are a superpower the likes of which the
world has never seen. And we can get
that back. So, President Trump doing
tariffs plus
domestic supply side market boom
economics. There's a lot of talk of
what's happening in Israel right now.
Hostages being released, terrorists
resurfacing, Gaza plans, and so on. But
there's one thing we tend to overlook.
The people of Israel. The war has taken
a huge physical and emotional toll on
the Jewish people. And that's why I want
you to know about the International
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analysis, Senator Schmidt from the great
state of Missouri joins us. Senator
Schmidt, great to see you. Yesterday,
there was some breaking news. The House
passed the budget budget resolution.
What is that? And within the budget
resolution, were there details of no tax
on tips, no tax on overtime, or was that
just the precursor to be able to now get
into those negotiations? Senator, please
explain. Yeah. Yeah. Great to be with
you, Charlie. Yeah, exactly. The latter.
So, basically, the budget resolution
sets the framework by which now we move
into the reconciliation process, right?
So, it unlocks the process for the
committees to go do the work, right?
like Ways and Means or the Senate
Finance Committee to start to put meat
on the bones of these ideas that have
been talked about principally um you
know making the tax cuts from 2017
permanent extending those um and then
you've got all the other things that no
tax on tips you've got money for border
security and deportations
um because we're going to need help to
make sure this mass deportation movement
is actually funded uh for defense and
then also you know for for permitting
reform hopefully on energy and then
Lastly, and I think almost most
importantly, uh, some spending reforms.
We've got to get this thing under
control. Charlie, I tell people that
here's what's interesting. In 2019, not
1919. In 2019, we were spending about $4
trillion. We spend $7 trillion after the
last four years of the Biden budget and
the COVID orgy spending, right? We take
in five trillion. So, if we can actually
have some reform, bend that curve, have
revenues with all of the good things
that are happening with President Trump
catch up, it's realistic to think we can
have a balanced budget in a few years.
But we've got to do that hard work. And
we can do that in the reconciliation
process, too, which only takes a simple
majority in the Senate. And I think for
the audience, that's the most important
thing. If the House can hang together
and Senate Republicans can hang together
on this, we don't need a single Democrat
vote. I wouldn't expect to get one
because they're, you know, they're not
rational at this point. So, we got to
make sure we uh we take care of our own
business here.
So, so Senator, one one question I have.
I I agree the amount of money we are
borrowing is extraordinary. I mean it it
is as if it's when COVID happened, we
decided to just put back all of our
monetary or fiscal I should say impulses
of fiscal discipline and we have decided
to basically embrace the cheap money
guzzle. However, Senator, there are
rumors that we might increase the
Department of Defense budget to a
trillion dollars. Where do you
anticipate these spending cuts coming
from? I'm all for a big and mighty
military. However, first and foremost, I
think the greatest threat to our
national security is our national debt,
not even any existential foe. So, build
out where you think some of these cuts
will come. More broadly, I know that you
have to keep your cards close to your
chest, but if we're talking about an
increase in the defense budget, where
else can these cuts come from?
Sure. And um and you're right. I think
that um it's coming into focus now. We
spend more, we spend a trillion dollars
a year on the interest on that $36
trillion debt. That's only going to grow
as some of these things become more
mature mature and they need to be
refinanced um with higher interest rates
over the last few years because of Biden
inflation. Right? So that problem is
only going to get more significant
unless we can find real savings. I think
there there's two ways to look at this.
One is there's a lot of um discretionary
spending that we're finding the savings.
This is the work that Doge is doing,
right? And so we've already just take
USAD as an example. Um all of that
money, Guan sex changes, DEI and Burma,
LGBTQIA, you know, programming in Sesame
Street in Iraq, that all stuff that adds
up, right? And that's the kind of thing
like take Marco Rubio, what he said was
he said 83% of the stuff we were doing,
we're not going to do that anymore. The
17% that remains, we're going to go move
in further American interests overseas.
Right? That's the kind of reform you
have internally that Doge finds that
gets embedded in savings moving forward.
What are some other things you can do? I
think what's broadly popular um is work
requirements. Uh if you're an
able-bodied adult, you should be
required to work. Um that explosion
under Obamacare is is really affecting
people who need it most, Medicaid. So,
when President Trump talks about making
sure we're not touching Social Security,
not making sure we're touching uh
benefits on Medicare or Medicaid, I
think we're all with him in lock step,
but we got to make sure that um you
know, the the the able-bodied population
that's not working. They're draining the
system. They're crowding hospitals.
They're crowding out doctor visits for
you know, pregnant mothers, individuals
with disabilities, what that program was
really meant for. So, there's a lot of
work to do, as I said, to put meat on
the bones there. But, I think we can get
there. And here's the way to look at it.
If we just went back to prepandemic
spending, Charlie, 2019 spending levels
plus inflation and population growth,
that's like a trillion dollar difference
than what we're spending right now. So,
I think we can make some real progress
here.
So, I I now want to get into the tariff
aftermath. I mean you come from a state
that has a lot of a and a lot of once
mighty industry and also a fair amount
of exporting and international business.
How is how are your major industries in
Missouri thinking about these tariffs?
And what is your message to some of the
audience that might be a little worried
that uh tariffs might be mean higher
prices uh and that we might have a
little bit of uh economic uncertainty
coming down the the the coming down the
next couple of months.
Yeah, I spent a lot of this week I think
defending President Trump's leadership
in Washington and permanent Washington's
totally disconnected from what's really
happening. Sort of the global elites
have had their run here after World War
II. Um, we had all these favorable deals
for countries who were trying to get
back on their feet. Germany, Japan, all
these countries. And when the co with
the goal of defeating Soviet communism,
okay, we won. After the cold war ended
though, we didn't adjust at all. So, you
can't buy you can't buy or you don't see
an American car in Europe. You don't see
an American car in Japan. You don't see
an American car in Korea. Yet all of
their cars are in our markets because
they have erected these barriers over
time through tariffs, trade barriers,
uh, in China specifically, stealing our
IP. It's been very unfair to us. And I
do come from a state and I grew up in a
blueco collar neighborhood where all
those good paying jobs, those factory
jobs, they went overseas. Fentanyl, you
know, we got Sentinel in exchange. And
so my message is America isn't an
economic zone. America isn't some strip
mall with an airport attached to it.
It's a people. It's a place. It's our
home. And we finally have a president
that's willing to stand up and say, "You
know what? We've been treated very
unfairly. We're going to treat you like
you treat us." And now look what's
happening. 70 countries plus have come
to the table and said, "We heard what
you had to say. We understand the United
States of America's 39% of all the
consumption in the world. It's 25% of
the world's GDP. It's a very important
market for us. So, we're going to lower
our trade barriers so that we can, you
know, actually have fair trade." So,
President Trump has made tremendous
progress on this. And by the way, it
opens up markets for our farmers and our
other industries around the world. I
think the way to look at this, Charlie,
is you've got two different buckets.
You've got communist China and you've
got everybody else. China is the worst
offender. They made a terrible decision
in trying to escalate this. They rip off
our IP. They steal our jobs. They create
trade barriers. They say, "Oh, yeah, no,
you you can't sell your chickens here
because you didn't wash them properly,
or you can't sell your electronics here
because there's this bolt that's out of
place." So it's not just the tariffs,
it's all the other hidden trade barriers
that prevent our goods getting to
market. They export five times more than
we export to them. They have a hell of a
lot more to lose in this uh if they
continue down this path. So we'll see if
they have a come to Jesus moment or not.
I think the rest of the world is and I
think at the end of the day it's going
to lead to greater prosperity for us
because we're going to have more markets
open. We'll have more revenue coming
into this country and we'll bring back
industry, those good paying jobs that we
had for a very long time that didn't
need to go somewhere else.
Senator Schmidt, we are out of time.
Thank you for your leadership and we
will be talking to you soon. Please keep
the pressure on your Senate colleagues
for massive and real spending cuts and
we need money for border security. So,
you got to reconcile those two things,
no pun intended, during this
reconciliation package. Thank you so
much, Senator. Really appreciate it.
We'll do it, brother. Take care. See
you.