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New messages just changed the entire tone of the conversation surrounding Erika Kirk — and the narrative online is shifting fast.
In this video, we take a closer look at Erika’s friendship with teenager Jillian, the controversy that followed, and why recently released communications are leading many people to reconsider what actually happened. Some viewers now believe the messages suggest Erika may have been communicating with awareness from Jillian’s mother — a detail that could completely change how the situation is interpreted.
We break down:
The background of Erika Kirk’s connection to Jillian
What the newly surfaced messages appear to show
Why some critics are walking back earlier accusations
The difference between confirmed facts and internet speculation
How public perception is evolving in real time
This case has been surrounded by strong emotions and loud opinions, but context matters. The goal of this video is to walk through the information being discussed right now and examine how the newest developments may reshape the story.
As always, everything discussed here reflects publicly available conversations and commentary — and viewers should come to their own conclusions.
Let me know what YOU think after seeing the messages… did the narrative just flip?
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So obviously no one has been talking about Erica Kirk at all recently and so uh it might just fall on deaf ears but there seems to have been a major development in the entire Candace and Owen what Candace and Owen Candace and Erica war that is I was going to say it's kind of one way but it's not. Uh, but Candace uh dropped a thermonuclear bomb on uh on Erica and she had a lot to say about the relationship between her, you know, Erica and that 15-year-old. And there's been a huge development since then. Uh, massive one. Absolutely massive. And I'm going to show you exactly what we found out because we got a lot of new information about that entire situation. And here's the deal, guys. Okay? I will always show you what I believe to be true regardless, you know, because let me tell you, there's a lot more um well, what's the right way to put this? There's a lot more action for a YouTuber if you find out that there is something very very bad about that particular person, Erica, than there is if she's exonerated uh from a specific, you know, accusation. And that's not necessarily the case here. I'm just saying that like the more you can frame it like she's the worst, the better it's going to perform. But in this case, we have a huge development and uh I am going to show you what that is. But first, we're going to look at what uh what Candace said because she basically structured this one uh post which went through all of the connections, not necessarily the right word. all of the times when Erica has been in the very close proximity of things that appear to be um well no in some cases they absolutely are the exact thing which is kitties ending up on laps they do not belong on if you know what I'm saying and then people being like hey that's not Santa Claus but I'm going to get paid $1,000 for you to pretend that it is Santa Claus now go tell him everything that you want while he bounces you on his lap you know what I mean that's actually Dude that's a good code word you You know, I think actually that is going to be my new code word for a person who is having a, you know, it's like, oh, he's a Santa Claus, you know, because, you know, he wants kids on his lap, right? Pretty good. I feel like that's a that's a good one. Anyway, um, but so yeah, we've got all of these that she goes through. Uh, and we're going to go through that obviously. Then we're going to go through Oh, and I wanted to show you something that uh that Daddy Wells found also. That's another development in that uh in that case. Uh, and this I just want to give you advanced notice. So, I'm going to be reacting to the Wolves and Finance fraud at Fort Wuka video for uh, episode five of the Charlie is alive uh, situation, at least part of it, because there is information in this video that is critical for people to understand assuming that the Fort Wuka thing is real. And I you guys know I started off like come on specifically because I didn't believe Mitch, right? But also at the time I didn't believe the TPUSA had anything to do with this crime and now I do. And so it changes things and the information and this is like a perfect way for me to segue into the portion of the Charlie is alive series. By the way, if you guys don't know what that is, just go to my playlist top one. I have done I have four parts so far uh of the Charlie Kirk is actually alive. That's my theory now. um that uh you know so now we're going to be getting into the other people are investigating and this is what they're finding and for some reason they can't see that the answer is what I am saying it appears it's like the only thing that can explain this is my theory and it explains it perfectly. So the Fort Wuka thing is going to be part of that and we're going to get into that very very soon but for right now if you guys have not subscribed to my channel I would appreciate it very much if you would. I am literally like I think tonight I'll probably hit 600,000. Um I'm Oh my god. Oh my gosh. I'm at 599 951. So yeah, I will probably hit 600,000 subscribers tonight. I love you guys for that. Thank you. And if you don't mind liking this video as well, that would be amazing. All right, so let's jump into this thing right now. Okay, so let's go through Candace's post first. Okay, and then we'll uh get into the new developments. Okay, so Candace dropped this bomb on him. Okay, so she says, "Were it just one isolated incident that landed a uh approximate to children being uh put in?" God, like what what am I supposed to do with this, dude? Like what what am I supposed to do? I can't say that word. I can't say that word. It's ridiculous. The number one thing being talked about globally right now, and I can't I can't say that word. Uh there's a lot of traffic. Okay, I might dismiss it as an unfortunate coincidence, but here is where we are with Erica Kirk. Turning Point USA at the insistence of Tyler Boyer, who introduced Erica to Charlie and knew her for years prior. I'm very curious about that actually. Um, yeah, I really want to understand their relationship a lot better, and I'll tell you why in a second. But he opens their headquarters directly across the street from Arizona Mills, one of the highest places for you guys. Just go ahead and read what's highlighted. Okay. In the state, a mere weeks later, Charlie and Erica have their first date. Erica is for some reason unable to recall how she met or knew Tyler. That's weird. And I'm wondering where she's getting that from. Like, did uh Eric did Erica ever like I don't know. Erica never mentioned how she knew Tyler because if that's true, that's is super weird. Okay. I know where I know any person that I know. If you're like, "Hey, where do you know him from?" I'll answer in one second. Be like, "Oh, I know them from Chico State." Or, "Oh, yeah, in San Diego. We worked together or whatever, you know, oh, I met him because I was covering blah blah blah." And then we ended up doing a show together. There's always an instantaneous answer to that question. So, that's bizarre if it is in fact true. Um, now, and Candace has been very open with the fact that she does not trust Tyler Boyer, doesn't like Tyler Boyer, doesn't trust Tyler Boyer. Um, I don't know Tyler Boyer, so I have no input on that, but she has been very clear about that. All right, I just went on a six-minute side quest talking about the Charlie is alive theory related to Tyler Boyer, Erica, Candace, so that I'm going to put that at the end of the video. Like, it's it's great content, but I don't want to derail this entire, you know, this whole conversation yet. So, um, now, uh, Erikica Kirk ran Romanian Angels to work with Romanian orphans. She partnered with the US Marines and worked with Colonel Otto Busher. Colonel Otto Busher is subsequently accused of that word that I won't say and that and that. Okay. So, you know, the kind of thing where predators uh intentionally put themselves in positions to have access to uh you know them. Very consistent. Okay. Very consistent. Now, just because a person ends up working with like, you know, displaced kids does not mean that they're a predator necessarily. And if they if they do have a passion for working with those types of, you know, like with those kids, it is inevitable that they are going to brush arms with predators because that is such it's a magnet. It is an absolute magnet for the most evil people in the world who focus on them. Okay? So, that's not necessarily proof of anything, but that is another thing where you're trying to figure out what you're looking at. You know, you're like, I don't know. What am I looking at? Okay. Then, uh this one does not look good at all. Okay. At all. Okay. She launched the uh Make Heaven Crowded tour with Pastor Greg Lori of Harvest Christian Fellowship. She did this despite the fact that the church is currently facing 12 lawsuits from 2025 with the accusations that they same exact thing as last time. Okay. Now, this I will say if you had previously worked with a an orphanage in Romania, okay, and one of the people who you specifically was a part of your operation that you worked with specifically, that person ended up having cases like this guy, right? Then the second that someone goes, "Oh, yeah, we're going to do this thing uh you know, with this guy." And it's like, okay, cool. Yeah, he's huge. You're telling me no advisors? We're like, well, just so you know, you know, this guy does have this pending thing, uh, you know, 12 lawsuits. Oh. Oh, really? What? What kind of lawsuits? They're all Well, the exact thing that happened last time in that same country. In the same country. And you're just like, that's fine. That's fine. No problem. no reason to uh you know, no reason to be a little bit more selective about who is going to lead this thing. That's that's the part I can't get my head around, you know, like if if it's all in if if if this one is innocent, I I can't get my head around the following very simple question. Why not go with someone else? Like just go with someone else? Why why go with this person? Right? I'm not saying like if this if this person like again I looked at the case he is not the person who was actually doing it but it appears at least according to the suits that he was very clearly covering for this person left them on way after this started that people were aware of it for like multiple years because that guy was like critical to fundraising or something like that at least that's what's alleged in the lawsuit right but at the same time maybe maybe she's known him her whole life and then and they know him personally and he gave some story that was backed up by 10 different people. We don't know these people. But even if even if that was the case, I would be like, "Look, man. You're you got this thing going on. I'm not I don't want to be anywhere near anything that appears to be that, you know, and then this is uh weird. So, she lived in China to work with uh to work with the victims of that." Very weird, man. This is a lot of this, dude. This is a lot of this. She today denies she ever lived in China. Did she really deny that? I've seen her say it. I've seen it. I've literally watched her say it into a camera. She actually said, "Did she really deny that?" Despite multiple past interviews in which she confirmed she lived in Chongqing, Chongqing, why lie? Excellent question. It's worth noting that according to our state department that area is a hotbed for okay well I mean this part this is what you call a nothing burger only because if this was the stated reason that she's there right which is weird for the record in my opinion then you know like the fact that it was a hotbed for that doesn't I mean that seems pretty standard but nonetheless right this is the part that I I I'm telling you I know so much about this topic that there are certain things that I just go why how this is a passion project for you this is a passion project for you know what I mean why why this there's a mill what about starving kids what about kids that are starving there's lots of orphanages that are you know filled with people who are hungry why this you know now don't get me wrong okay because I'm not just I'm not just gonna like prescribe ill intent all the time because I could definitely get down. The more that I honestly the more that I look at this, the more I want to go and work with those people for the exact opposite reason, you know, like I I have overwhelming instinct now that I'm thinking about it right this second. have overwhelming instincts to go work with exactly these people, exactly these little girls and boys so that I can put a a bubble of safety over all of them where it's like, "Try it, dude. Try it. Tell me why you need to take those two for a ride tonight and I'll take the bottom part of your mouth and I will literally take your jaw off the hinge and then I will throw it acrimate by the way. That's where that came from. In the movie Primate, it takes this like this little creep ass kid that's like over there trying to bang one of the girls and doesn't realize that there's a wild rabbid monkey in the house and he and the monkey literally and then just tears the entire thing off of his uh it's pretty gnarly, dude. 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Did Erica Kirk groom a 15-year-old girl when she was 25? Things just got insanely interesting and I just got a ton more information. So, last night at about 11:00 in the evening, all of a sudden, I see a tweet go out from Candace Owens from the old Jillian account that says that the photo shoot has been scheduled for Friday. Now, I dug through this account, you guys, for two days, examining it, screenshotting it, all of the above, and that tweet did not exist. I went immediately to the 2014 Jillian account, and I immediately started noticing tons of tweets that were previously not there and were not available to the public. So, what I believe happened is that Jillian regained access to this old account and for whatever reason, she flipped everything on. So, tweets that had previously been privatized, she has now made them public. So, we have so much more to go through than what we previously were able to see. And the good news is it helps Erica Kirk. It does not help Candace Owens. In fact, it proves that Candace Owens lied. How do we know that these tweets were privated and are now being made public? So, how I know this is, >> okay, first of all, what I don't understand is how does this prove that Candace lied, though? Like, the girl liter You You just said that there was a bunch of new new things that were not public. Like people, Dude, Nissi went through this with a fine tooth comb. Dude, there is no way. I mean, I have that much faith in Nissi's ability to uh to do research. There's no way she would have missed what's coming. I It must have been not there. And Candace obviously didn't see it either. So like I it doesn't mean she lied. If there's new posts that give, you know, additional context, what it might show is the fact that uh Jillian lied to Candace if she told her that her mom didn't know if that's what's coming here, which it is. Because this right here is the infamous autocorrect Erica tweet that everybody was dissecting and freaking out about. The photooot comments is literally right above it. Every single person that was examining this account to destroy Erica Kirk, there's no way that they would have missed this. And >> uh really, there's no way they would have missed this. Can I point something obvious out to everybody? Okay. How many likes do you see right there? One. Okay, cool. How about this one? One. Wait a minute, dude. Wait a minute. Uh, hang on, dude. this one like on each of these and these just came out of nowhere. Like these just came out. These were not there before. Okay. Given the fact that I showed yesterday that Lance Twig's Tik Tok account did not have a single comment at all on any of those posts prior to 910. None. Not a not a single comment on any of those posts existed prior to 910. And I'm like, okay, but these they say these posts happened in, you know, 2019, then 2020, then 2021. Like, it's establishing five years of him posting supposedly. I mean, you know, he does like one a year, then two a year, then three this year, then what? Like, not a lot of posts, but it goes back five years, but there was a total lack of engagement. Absolute. This right here, like she like all of a sudden there are all these these posts that were invisible before. How is that possible? Or is it possible that there is some way that they are able to add posts that appear to be older like after the fact? Cuz the fact that these have one heart, two like this is super sus to me, dude. Like cuz again, where did these where did these posts come from? like where what could she have done to turn these on that suddenly are there? And man, listen dude, if these are created on the spot, that is scary. And I just want to reiterate to whoever did this, if you guys did do it, my entire Charlie is alive series is honestly I will put all my stuff down to say this, okay? I absolutely am doing this trying to help you guys because I believe in Charlie's cause 100% and I am looking at people attacking TP USA attack and I'm like they don't get it. They they are see like there the mistakes that were made are leading to them thinking that you guys are evil people who would kill Charlie. And to me it seems very obvious what actually happened. And I'm like, if they if I can make them see it, then they will stop attacking these people who are such good friends of Charlie that they helped him do this as opposed to such bad friends of Charlie that they murdered him. And I really believe that that is what we're looking at. So don't like whatever you guys are doing here, I don't want any actually pro any actual problems with you guys. I don't know how the [�__�] you're doing this, but I am not looking for problems. That's very wild. But like one heart on each one, dude. And like this, don't give up because you are loved. One comment, two. Okay. But like all because of one DM. I'm going to bed smiling. And then one like. Like how much engagement is there on these other posts, man? Okay, this is forget about what I said about them uh you know just like inserting old posts because look at how much this girl was posting on Twitter. It's insane. Okay, look it here is where 13 ends. Here's where Here's where June 12 starts. Okay. Once, twice, three times, four times, five times, six times, seven times, eight times, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 19 posts. And look, like they get like no engagement. It's like, what are like is this really what like kids growing up around now are doing? They just post a billion times. That is so weird, man. That was painful. Let's go ahead and continue. >> Then right above that is the photographer with his name linked to his um Twitter account. Again, there's no way that people would have seen this and not seen all of that. Myself included when I was going through these accounts. These were not here previously. One of the things that I immediately noted >> and I Okay, so what exactly is she even pointing to? Okay. So, it's like photo shoot book for next Friday. And then here's Joe Alisa. See you next Friday. Okay. So, that's the guy who is who is doing the photo shoot. Was that Candace on her show stated that Jillian had said that the photographer's name started with an R, but she couldn't remember his name. His name is Joe Alyssa. Does not start with an R. She also stated that Jillian said that he was short, chubby, and unattractive. This is what Joe looks like. This is a screen. >> How do you know that this is the same person? I'm sorry. I'm now I'm watching this for the second time. I'm watching this for the second time. How do you know that? Like, why are you assuming that the only photo shoot she ever went on is the one that you are pointing to? Hang on, let me see. So, like she So, she's saying Give me a sex. Okay, that's not that is not the I don't think that's the one that is referencing. Okay, I'll check I'll check the date on that. Okay, so I Okay, this is weird. >> I took it last night. This is the picture that he has posted. Again, could this be somebody else's photo that he's >> Yes, he's a photographer. Of course, that could be someone else. Does that look like most photographers or does that look like maybe it's a model? But maybe it's him >> using. Sure. But that'd be kind of weird. Um, as a photographer, you're trying to promote your yourself. >> No, you're trying to promote your ability to take good photos. >> So, but not only that, I immediately noticed that he is reposting posts that have to do with Jesus and a quote from John MacArthur. Seems like the guy is a Christian. He also follows a lot of conservative accounts. >> Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. You're saying that there might be there's never been someone who pretends to be a deeply Christian godly person who doubles as a person who you would never want your kids around. I'm not saying this guy is that, but that proves nothing as I mean that proves nothing. >> And right there he has his website linked. So, I went to it and I'm expecting, you know, Candace made it sound like these people were trafficking young girls. They're going to be, you know, this is going to be some salacious modeling scantily clad young girls. The guy does professional head shot. >> Okay. Again, we have not established in any way that this guy is the person that was being referenced in the photo shoot at all. It sounds like it's it sounds like it's absolutely not the same person. This guy's name is Joe. She said it was something with an R and he was short and whatever. You're just showing a photographer who she did a photo shoot with that doesn't match this story in any other way. >> And lifestyle photography. Very clean. Everybody's covered. Nothing inappropriate is being shown. So the day that Jillian announces the photo shoot being booked is March 6th of 2014. And then she gives her shout out to Joe, the photographer. Okay. I also noticed something else that happened on March 6th. Jillian's mother surprises her with a nail appointment for them to go get their nails done. Seems to me like mommy knew that she had a photo shoot booked and wanted to take her daughter to get her nails done. >> Right. This photo shoot. This is what I'm saying. I'm not necessarily saying that this is not the same photo shoot. What I'm saying is what is there that is connecting this photo shoot to the one that is referenced in the story? Because again, I don't believe for a second that Nissi would have missed this. She's an exceptional researcher. There's no I don't believe she would have missed this, especially if this was on the same day. Like, >> and why would Jillian have told Candace that her mom didn't know? >> On March 11th, we have Jillian getting a brand new dress to wear to this photo shoot. And on March 13th, we have her saying that she made a professional makeup appointment to get her makeup done. How many 15year-olds do you know that don't have a driver's license, don't have a car, and are able to drive themselves to get their nails done, buy a new dress, and get their makeup professionally done. >> Yeah, I agree. That would be weird. Uh except again this like no one said it's the only photo shoot she'd ever done in her life. You have done nothing to connect this photo shoot to the one that is referenced in Candace saying she talked to Jillian. >> Also, how many 15-year-olds do you know that are going to be paying for all of that when Jillian doesn't have a job? Her mother absolutely knew about this photo shoot, which Candace claims that her mother did not know about it. her mother absolutely knew about it and was actually paying for >> she knew about this photo shoot like >> things to prepare for Jillian to go to this photo shoot and exactly like stated the next Friday on March 14th of 2014 we get this post from Jillian saying it's time and she's in the exact dress that she had bought on the 11th. Now I want you to notice something. She is completely covered from head to toe. By the way, this dress is the most modest, like appropriate attire for a 15-year-old. It literally goes up to the neck. It's a high collar, long sleeved dress. Very appropriate for a 15-year-old >> for the one that her mom took her to. >> Now, Jillian gives us a playby-play of this entire day. And when you open the tweet up, it will actually give you the exact date and time stamp. Now, X shows you the time zone of the viewer. Whoever is looking at it, it's going to be in your time zone, not the time zone of the poster. So, I'm in Arizona. Jillian was in Michigan when she posted this. I am currently two hours behind Michigan. So, it says 10:07 p.m. on March 14th of 2014. That would be 3:07 p.m. Michigan time. Then, we have her thanking Joe the photographer at 2:45 p.m., which would be 4:45 p.m. Michigan time. Then at 2:56 PM, which would be 4:56 PM, we have Jillian making a comment about her mother's driving because yes, ladies and gentlemen, that's right. Jillian's own mother drove her to the photo shoot. >> Okay. And so where is where I swear to God if this thing does like does this resize thing again, I am going to drive to Apple headquarters and ask them why the [�__�] would you do this dumbass feature where a person doesn't touch the screen and the [�__�] thing resizes? Why? Why would you do that? Why would that be a feature that you would put in your computer? It's infuriating, dude. Anyway, um but again, so if Erica is the one who set it up, then where's the post thanking Erica? I mean, I don't know. I haven't finished this yet. So, I assume she's going to have something that proves that this photo shoot is the one that we were talking about that Erica had set up because that has not been established at all in this video thus far. >> Because she was 15, did not have a license, did not have a car, and did not have any way to pay for any of this. her mother not only funded it, but she took her. And Jillian gives off the vibe that she very much was excited about this um had a great experience. She literally says on March 16th, checking my email five plus times a day to see if my proofs have come in. And about a full month and a half after getting her head shot taken, she is still interacting with Joe's page and his tweets, this guy said, "Who is this and why is his ratio amazing?" And she comments down here, "He's a photographer." But the thing that really showed me that Erica was absolutely in a mentorship relationship with this girl and was trying to point her down the right path and trying to get her to go in the right direction. A girl who previously was making all the wrong choices in her life. The day that she announces that the photo shoot has been booked, that same day, March 6th, 2014, she tweets this. School is my main focus from here forward. She makes a dedication to herself to make school her priority now going forward because modeling is her dream. She wants to do this. Erica is helping her to get the head shot she needs to start building a portfolio. And she says, "I'm going to start making school my focus again." And with her mother's full knowledge and wallet to pay for it, Erica sets her up with a very clean, straightforward headsh shot by all appearances Christian conservative photographer. >> How do you know that Eric has set this up? Where is this? Where? Okay, hang on. Right there. So, let me see that. Let me zoom in on that. So, photo shoot booked for next Friday and then let me call you. Hold on, sweetheart. Give me a sex. Wow. Okay, so that is on the same day that she posted that, huh? Weird. But again, that doesn't mean Candace lied. It means that you you said yourself that the posts you they were not there before. And in addition to that, like if Jillian tells Candace my mom didn't know about it, then what possible reason would Candace have to not know or like to to assume that her mom did know about it, right? Like you can't say Candace lied. Also, this entire thing is just super weird. But if the I mean, listen, dude, if the mom knew about it, then that is a major big deal as it relates to like implying that Erica like was trying to like traffic this kid. That's uh I mean, if if this is the photo shoot and she involved the mom, then that changes a lot. still irrelevant as it relates to how weird, you know, hey, I want to be in your lady garden and all that stuff. Like this is this honestly I didn't even know about this entire photo shoot when I first covered this. Still super weird. No reason why anyone would be like in the sex thing. She's like, "Give me a sex. I mean a sec." And then she's like, "I mean sex for sure [laughter] because picture me naked." Um, picturing me naked must really turn you on, 15-year-old girl, but not with you because I don't swing for both teams yet. It doesn't make that not weird, right? But again, it is a big deal if the mom knew, but it also doesn't mean that Candace lied. So now, why is that relevant Jesse on fire? Well, not necessarily relevant to this particular conversation, but very relevant to the consistent feedback that I am getting on the Charlie is alive thing where they're like, I just don't believe that Charlie would do this without letting Candace know. And I addressed this part on my live stream last night, but since it was not on this topic, I will do it again. Uh the other feedback that I had heard from uh from both like Baron mentioned it on a on a spaces uh that he was doing and then I actually heard that from maybe one or two other people where they were like if Charlie [snorts] saw what's happening to Erica, he would have to like make it stop. Like there's no way that he would sit back and let this happen to Erica. Thing is, the answer to both of these questions is the same. Actually, no it's not. There's two different answers. There is one component that is in both answers and that is that we are talking about a massive operation to do this to pull off what they've done and still have the majority of people well allegedly what in my in my opinion what they've done. Okay. They still have everybody believing that there's no way that this is true. Well, not really actually. the the number of people who started at zero who call me now and they're like, "Okay, okay, like now now let's okay, now I've let this marinate. Let me go." But we're talking about a huge operation. The amount of people that were involved, the amount of effort that went into it, this is not something where you can just undo it. Like that's that's not what we're talking about. It cannot be done. There is no there's no reverse. There's no like, okay, we went through here. Let's make a U-turn. Not. It is a one-way ticket. There is no coming back. The only way that there would be a comeback is if they like pretend that he has uh risen. You know what I mean? Like this is he's a second coming. Okay. Like he's But that they're not going to do that either because one of the main reasons Charlie would have wanted to do this is to make sure that he is safe from attacks, right? Like I'm sure that every he got everybody on board for uh you know probably some reasons that I'm not privy to but definitely he definitely would have sold them if I'm right on the fact that this is going to be such an astronomical political win for the right you know and again had he had Candace on the inside of this it would have been it absolutely would have been but he didn't right but the reason that he can't come back is for that exact reason like he can take Erica out of the CEO role right? He could theoretically, but he definitely cannot come back. Now, if I'm right, [clears throat] and I will always say that because I'm not saying anything that I this is all just theory for me. I'm not making any statements of fact. But, um, why I'm most curious about Erica in these situations is because of that like that now that I will say, I mean, I'm just going to be open with you guys obviously like it's just my opinion, but I do believe I'm right. Like, and I mean like I strongly believe I'm right. Somebody asked me uh the other day, someone whose opinion I actually consider like I I've I was it was I was embarrassed about because I know that when you first say that you think Charlie's alive, people think you're insane. I I know that. Believe me. I am totally aware of that. That's why I put these videos out because I'm like, "Okay, well, no one could possibly call me insane after watching these, right?" But he said, "What's your level of certainty?" And this is before I had showed him anything. And I was like, "95." He's like, "95 out of 100." I was like, "95%? Yeah." He's like, "Wow." And he probably just was like, "All right, this guy's bash shit." But nonetheless, like from my perspective being that that is what's going on and I look at Erica being in the CEO role. Okay. Well, if Erica is like Susie Homemaker that like loves Charlie more than anything and Charlie was right to trust her, that is a very very different situation than if she was in fact working Charlie all along and she was put there as a plant to monitor and like you know keep a hold of Charlie. And then Charlie goes, I trust you 100%. and he puts her as the CEO of TPUSA as they move into TPUSA 2.0 and like Charlie thinks that he's in charge. But the thing is, like I said, you can't come back. There's no coming back. Charlie cannot wrestle control away from her. That cannot happen. Like he is he is completely reliant on her because now she is the legal owner of their entire position. Period. Like his his leadership is based on faith and trust, not on anything legal anymore. Okay? So like do you understand what I'm saying? That's that's why this is so interesting to me. Okay. Now on the other uh you know on the other side and why I was saying that um you can't like why they couldn't have Candace on the inside of this is because again the the part that has crossover is the scope of what the operation would have been. Okay? Which means you're going to have to have so many people involved and this is such a like tight group. You cannot have conflict inside this group. You can't. This has to be all insiders marching in the same direction. They believe that they are doing something that is important to like the future of humanity. That is where you have to be to sign on to this thing. And I believe everyone that was in that room st you know whatever that would would have been a part of this absolutely believes that. And Candace had beef with a lot of these people like real beef. They do not like each other. You can't you can't have that conflict inside of a thing like this because trust is 100% critical. You know what I'm saying? Sorry that is a huge detour, but I have listen like I am talk like this is the thing I'm talking about now. So, uh, I will always find a way to talk about it because I can't help
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