Candace Owens Interviews Military Eyewitness Mitch Snow Who Claims He Saw Brian Harpole and Erika Kirk at Fort Huachuca Meeting

Okay, everyone. Happy Thursday. I have to tell you that I was laughing so much yesterday because I received a flood of emails from law enforcement officers, military guys that were just like, "No way. Absolutely not. That's where I draw the line. The bomb dogs missed the gun." Apparently, for people who work with bomb dogs, this is more of an offense to their intelligence than the man of steel neck. Like, it was just a bridge too far. This is where they are drawing a line in terms of feds. Anyway, we have another unbelievable episode for you guys here today. I thought long and hard about whether to bring on the eyewitness from Fort Wuka. And I think when we speak to him today and he gives you his testimony, you will of course understand why. I am always honored uh to have any person that serves in our military, especially honored to have him given all that he has lived through despite the firestorm that I know that both he and I are about to endure. Welcome back to Candace. Okay, so a couple of things before we get into that interview. I at the top of the show first want to tell you about this interesting question that I received yesterday from one of our viewers over on X that I wanted to address. He asked me specifically if I saw black plastic fragmentation over the floor of Charlie's SUV. I was immediately struck by this question because I am not kidding. When I tell you that the very first thing that I noticed when I went through those photos of Charlie's SUV, I said to my team that it looked like there were shards of glass, like tempered glass that you might see if you drop or break an iPhone. Uh it was very distinct to me in the picture from the blood that is all over the seats and all over the floor. I was like, "Oh, maybe like someone broke a window or something." And then I sort of put it out of my mind and particularly I noticed a lot of it spread across that back back seat rear floor. So, I'm going to show you that just a couple of photos of that close up so that you can see it. Uh what that looks like because yeah, it was just kind of a compelling thing that he noticed something that I noticed and you can see it was unusual. I I think in this person's mind, they the the line that they were going down, I guess the line of questioning that they were going down in their own mind was, is this evidence that something broke on Charlie? Could something have been rigged? And I want to say that we can't necessarily extrapolate that from what we're looking at. It could be a thousand other things. Somebody could have actually broken a phone in there. Somebody could have had something in there. It could be broken hard candy. I mean, there's a lot going on. And yeah, I just But I did want to address that because it was interesting that he noted it and asked if if we saw little black bits and we and I I do that is visually what I see. I am hesitant, by the way, to put up the rest of the photos. Kind of still going through that. I want to be slow on that because obviously I don't want the federal officers, the good guys that are in there who have assisted in this to be rumbled, right? I don't want people cash to go on a hunt and figure out who gave us what and people to start getting fired. We need to have the white knights in government. So, I just need some time to think about that. And yeah, anyways, what we can do, however, and what we're starting to formulate now are just addressing these data points, right? These these mysterious circumstances, these things that don't necessarily make sense. What do we actually know about that day? And what's really interesting for me is when I review these data points, I I can't fathom how there are people out there right now trying to convince you that there is overwhelming evidence that Tyler Robinson committed this crime. There's actually no there's no evidence outside of these shady messages that are not even timestamped. He we don't have a confession from him. We have nothing. Okay. So, these are just some some data points for you to to remember as we go through this. The surgeon never confirmed or even suggested that Charlie was shot with a 30 odd six or that Charlie had a steel neck uh that stopped that bullet. Rather, he suggested throughout the course of a conversation that maybe A frangible bullet was used. The lone confirmed eyewitness that we have that is confirmed to the alleged shooter on Loy Center rooftop before the sound goes off. The sound of a shot rings out has not been contacted by the lawyers or the investigators on either side of this trial, the pending trial. We are now in the phase where investigators are supposed to go out and be collecting more evidence pending um the May probable cause hearing. He still has not been contacted. And why is that crucial? Because this individual is an instructor at a gun range. He claims the weapon that he saw looked more like a 223. Quote, something shorter than the one that they found. The person that he observed was wearing what seemed to him to be black tactical gear plus a face mask. And he describes that person as looking like a like a professional. The bomb dogs were unable to locate the weapon in the field. where it was eventually discovered despite the fact that they had crawled over that area. They just weren't on their game that day. That this is not my favorite part of the story. It's just a little I just didn't expect uh the reaction to be what it was. It's I I just love the people that are like no. Absolut directed local officers to the weapon. Lucky feds. Lucky feds. The canines were not provided with the scent of the weapon once it was discovered. So they did not then take that weapon and then have the dogs trace it back to the top of lawy. That did not happen. Uh Terl Farnsworth still major question marks. He raced to remove the camera that was directly behind Charlie's head. I want to tell you, by the way, I'm reading myself into this, so not a data point, but in my mind, when I imagine why he might have done that, uh, I think it's because they were going to go with this story that a 306 hit Charlie Kirk. And what debunked that obviously would be seeing that it didn't it didn't go through. There was no like there was no evidence of what should have been a tremendous amount of damage done to his neck. I also want to say here because I've heard that various people like Terl are getting death threats. Obviously, if you're watching this show, we are investigating what happened with Charlie Kirk. I have been clear that I do believe that there are some people that are engaged in a cover up. I am never giving anybody the permission to, you know, go be a bandit and go outside and and take the law into your own hands. That's not what we should ever be doing and engaging in. Um, next data point that we have, federal agents prevented the surgeon from returning to his operating room. I told you that was something that startled him and he placed a call presumably to DC uh to make them move because he wanted that obviously the team to get back in there to clean it to make sure that Charlie could get cleaned up before Erica came in. Uh, federal agents removed the hospital surveillance footage. They're on a manhunt and for some reason that seemed like something that they should do. that strikes me as tremendously odd. We have that the vehicle in which Charlie was transported to Tempenos or Tanagos Hospital was not impounded by law enforcement. It's very odd. Uh and there were multiple sets of prints on the weapon that was found. Something that I did not share with you, but I did know this for some time and I can confirm this to you because that's one of their things. They got the prints of Tyler Robinson on this gun. There were multiple sets of prints that were on the gun that was recovered thanks to the instincts of the feds and not the noses of the dogs. And finally, and I think this is a big thing, the footage of Tyler Robinson turning himself in is apparently missing. And I have told you guys, and again, I'm reading myself into this. And in my investigation, I found that their entire story about how the parents turned him in and did the right thing is crap. It is BS. That's not what happened. They were told either, you know, these doors are going to get broken down or you're going to you're going to come in peacefully. Uh and Tyler chose the latter. I also was told by police officers that were there when he he came into the police uh that they were they were told not to look at him. They were told to avoid cameras. Very strange things that happened when he did eventually come in. And we won't know how strange because apparently the footage is missing according to local Utah news that they they didn't say a foya. There's another term. What was a gamma requested for that footage and were basically told well now there's been an expiration on that footage and we don't have it. So maybe they just mean they already handed it over to investigators. I don't know. But we will wait and see. That's a lot that is going on. I want to pivot now because our instincts, which they keep mocking us over, I think are on the money. We're going to talk now about Christianity. Christianity, I'm putting that in quotation marks because it has been on this podcast a recurring theme, right? I keep sensing a that these pastors are dangerous, right? I've covered extensively how even just amongst the Cavalry Chapel uh in particular, there's just way too much of a habit of establishing former pedophiles and drug traffickers as lead pastors of churches. Okay? I'm not saying that people can't find God. I'm just saying that my preference would be that they maybe not be provided with access to children, right? if if you committed a crime against child. Uh this is a preference that I guess is not or perhaps is in conflict with the beliefs and the preferences of Rob McCoy who makes my skin crawl. We showed you uh that interview that he did with somebody who apparently went on rampage. He actually went to prison for it and he was just sort of laundering his reputation and then gave him access again uh to children. I feel like that is very wrong. I have also on this show been speaking a lot about these quote unquote Christian influencers. Something's not right. A lot of women who seem to know their Bibles for almost the implicit and explicit aim of socially engineering the population, right? Telling you, "Oh, it's right here in the Bible." Same with the pastors. God doesn't want you to follow Tucker Carlson on Instagram. Josh Hammer is amazing. Candace is possessed by a demon. You don't want to be possessed by a demon. So unfollow Tucker Carlson and unfollow Candace and I promise there is no other motivations. Candace is just crazy and you should listen to me. Similarly, there are so many conservative media companies who are run by former military intelligence. People that leave naval intelligence, people that lead the MSAD, uh suddenly their aim is to speak about Judeo-Christian values. Uh you know, they find God after they they leave the military. I'm not saying that that's impossible. I'm just saying that this is something that we have discussed a lot on this podcast. I have been suggesting to you all that faith has been infiltrated by the military and people laughed. They laughed. Well, you guys didn't laugh, but like, oh, what do you mean by that? Well, you guys pull up a chair because it's about to get even more interesting. Fort Wuka, as many of you in the military have informed me, is actually an intelligence base. Now for those of you who are ignorant like me regarding the structure of the military, this is an important distinction to make in your mind because when we think about military bases, at least me, maybe you can uh you have the same mindset. I tend to think about where they're scrambling off the planes off of an air base if there's an attack, right? Oh, quickly jump into jump into your planes and get into the air or maybe get into the sea. It just requires an immediate response. But that is not what Fort Wuka in Arizona is. Okay? It is a hub for intelligence training. Civilians can be turned into intelligence assets on this base. They can take courses to join the intelligence community. Okay, just giving you one example of an email that I got. Quote, just FYI, Fort Wuka is where soldiers go for their MIT courses. That is Army military intelligence. Once a soldier has finished basic training, they go here for their advanced training for their actual job in Army military intelligence. End quote. Okay. Now, among the many emails that I received regarding what sort of intelligence courses take place, I was absolutely floored when a person who grew up and lives just outside of the base in uh in Sierra Vista told me something. I'm going to recount the story to you and I'm going to paraphrase a little bit of this so that I protect their identity. Basically, their story begins in May of 2013. They are two recently baptized Christians. Like I said, they grew up in this area, Sierra Vista, and they decided they were going to pour their savings into starting a gym. Now, of course, because it's a gym that's located off base, they had a lot of clientele who happened to be associated with the base. And one such client uh was a woman that they met, a couple that they met that were on fire for the Lord, right? That couple uh made a sizable investment in their gym and became quote unquote founding members. Okay, so the gym owners were drawn to this couple because they were so bold in their faith. They were like, I I loved the bold proclamation of their faith and we thought this is great. This this is going to work. they accept money from them. So, you can imagine that they were then completely surprised and shocked when this couple over time effectively staged something akin to a hostile takeover of their company, undermining them while pretending to be their friends, going behind their backs, propositioning other gym members. I'm going to be clear here. This is obviously allegedly uh I'm going to say allegedly allegedly allegedly here the couple almost lost everything in the process and they had to start all over again. Now what was once the fastest growing gym in Sierra Vista suddenly they were forced to relocate and downsize their company entirely. So now it's 2015 they are in their new smaller location of a gym. And I'm going to read this next portion of the email that I received verbatim. Again, allegedly, allegedly, allegedly, because he names an individual, an individual who I do not know. I have never heard of this individual, but I feel it is relevant because I'd like to learn more. The email continues, quote, "We were struggling, sometimes barely making rent, but still serving the community, including military students who came through for 4 to sixmonth training courses." Okay, I want to stress that again. got all these students that are coming in and their training is lasting between four to six months. So, they're signing up for this gym. Back into the quotation, um, one morning I noticed a female military military member lingering after class. She was visibly distressed, so I kept the gym open longer than usual to give her space to talk. We ended up conversing for about 45 minutes, and what she shared with me has stuck with me ever since. She said she quote, "Could not take it anymore." When I asked for details, she explained that her stress was coming from a class that she was taking on Fort Wuka, taught by none other than Bruce Bevans. My ears perked up when I heard his name as I immediately remembered the incident with his wife. This young woman described Bruce as quote, "The most evil man that she had ever met." She then revealed something that I wasn't expecting at all. The class's objective was to teach military personnel to infiltrate Christian groups and organizations through covert psychological operations. The training focused specifically on deceiving Christians. At the time, I didn't fully connect the dots. Our gym was and still is an openly Christian faith-based organization. But looking back now, I have to wonder if the infiltration and the destruction of our gym was actually a training exercise or field assignment. I also wonder if the distressed young soldier was sent to our gym on assignment from Bruce, but couldn't follow through with her objectives and instead chose to confide in me. There were other students who will corroborate this type of training. Two military students, both named blank and blank, I'm redacting that passed through our gym during this same period. They shared similar stories but seemed much more advanced in their training. On one occasion after I asked what was so funny in the back of my class, they privately shared that they had just returned from an overnight field training mission with very little sleep. Their objective had been to deceive civilians in Tucson about an hour north of us. They practiced at local bars and public venues on unsuspecting people, telling lies, remembering those lies, and maintaining their false personas without quote unquote breaking character. They laughed about their conquests while working out at our gym. Now, I got the impression that their deception sometimes extended to sexual encounters with their targets. At the time, I found this disturbing, but I did not know what to make of it. Now, 12 years later, and watching the situation unfold with Charlie Kirk and learning that some of his most trusted people may have been trained operatives who infiltrated Turning Point USA, these memories suddenly seem significant. You mentioned previously that there was a strange military background connection among some of the people involved. I am now wondering if instructors like Bruce Bevven trained some of these individuals before they infiltrated Christian organizations like Turning Point USA. End quote. Now, I obviously cannot confirm just yet. I'm sure after the show we're going to get a bunch of emails the allegations against Bruce. Again, I have never heard of this individual. What I can say to you is on a guttural level, I feel this is accurate. I do. It is what I have noticed. It's what I've been pointing to you all year. Many of these pastors are behaving like operatives and many of these Christian influencers are behaving like operatives. And I keep telling you that all roads including the Egyptian here Israeli uh planes lead to the front door of Turning Point USA. Faith I kept saying there's something when faith suddenly infiltrated and something happened to this organization and I feel this email is a big piece of the puzzle. Okay. So, if you played a part in these exercises on Fort Wuka base where you were learning instructions about how to be a good little Christian to infiltrate and potentially to overthrow a Christian organization and maybe you're having some second thoughts about your soul and you'd like to speak to me about it off record, please email more tips at candacewowens.com. And I would also like you all to remember that we suddenly have been experiencing wallto-wall panic ever since we mentioned Fort Wuka. You saw this. It's I mean the articles right now are unhinged. They are they are just doing fiction. The panic button was pressed when we mentioned Fort Wuka in the alleged meeting that happened on the morning of September 9th. So we're going to get into that. By the way, for those of you that thought that this person was making it up, he was uh apparently not familiar with metadata. I don't think he was. And he had not sent me the photos that he took that morning on the base. So, he tells a story. I stepped outside. I got coffee. Well, because he thought he was going to write, and I'm laughing here, going to like write the wrong of his past. He was sort of documenting himself while he was on the base. So, he sent sends me over all this stuff and I literally was able to confirm with the metadata uh where he was, exactly what time it was and see the background obviously and it's just a fact. Okay, it's just a fact that this this happened. He was there. 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Like, are all are we living in the Truman Show? Are we all going to work thinking that we can climb a ladder when in reality these people are just selected and given certain uh there were supposed to be certain characters. You're supposed to pretend like you're a head of a tech company and you're supposed to be super weird and quirky. I'm going to cast you into that role and then we're going to call you a genius and you're supposed to pretend that you're this super financial guru like a Jeffrey Epstein and we're going to put you at the head of a finance company. You know, you have no background in this. That's kind of the theme that I'm seeing. Anyways, I don't want to waste too much more time because I do want to bring on Mitch who apparently has what I would describe as I don't know if it's the best or the worst luck ever in life stumbling upon the feds when they're maybe up to no good. Mitch, welcome to my podcast. It's so great to have you here. >> It's wonderful to be here, Candace. How are you doing? >> I'm doing very well. I uh I obviously you know the story of how I instantly got the email from one of your friends that just said, "You should call Mitch after I prayed and said, "I'm missing a piece of this. Please, God, give me a piece of the story." And the first email I see when I get back from church on a day of holy obligation is this email. And so Mitch, my audience is up to date on what happened to you when you were 20 years old. And I'm wondering if you can just sort of briefly recap in case I got some things wrong. Oh wow. Briefly recap 35 years. Sure. Um yeah, we uh we were part of a mission going down to um down to the border JTF6 assigned from 10th Mountain. Um previously there had been a Marine Corps uh unit there. Um apparently they had an incident. We had to replace them. uh and they wanted a less less kinetic unit to um be involved. So we went down there in a matter of a few days, you know, and I was the youngest guy on the team. And for the first few days, I I got assigned to um have to, you know, do the hard work of putting in the sensors and following one of the border patrol who was on a uh he was on horseback. got to learn a little bit about um picking up signs in the desert, stuff like that while we were placing these sensors down. Um it took a few days. Um I think we put in like 80 sensors or so along the border and uh we were getting some they thought it was some glitch signals coming back. Um, being that I had just gone through the course, I had the most updated information and um, what we realized is they weren't uh, they weren't glitched signals uh, that these people were being sent out for. Um, it was uh, subterranean. And once when I got pulled back uh to the JTF6 headquarters, they were in discussions of of trying to remove the army. Um, in case your viewers don't understand, when units get put together like this, especially this mission, um, there's a lot of contention even to this day between the army and, uh, Border Patrol and who gets to take credit, and who gets to stay, who gets to go. And back then, um, Border Patrol, I I think they just wanted us out of their hair. Um, so they were having some sort of a big meeting. Um, and a big do not disturb meeting and uh I got assigned to the skeleton crew to sit back on the SMS uh um excuse me, the receiver. Um, and I was looking at the data while [clears throat] the skeleton crew of the border patrol was left there with me as well. and he was giving me a bad time about the army equipment and how they were being sent out for for no reason and he kept giving me a bad time about it. So, uh, we were looking at the data and we started discussing things and and I brought up the fact that, you know, you know, I asked if there was any subways or something like that around and between the two of us, the light bulb went on that um, yeah, it was a yeah, it was an underground tunnel and within minutes we could triangulate the uh, triangulate the signals and be able to pinpoint the location and that's the information I got to hand off. So, no, I didn't, you know, like go on the raid itself. Um, handing that information off was was the probable cause they needed to be able to go get a warrant, go to the location, um, and also communicate with the Mexican authorities on the other side to uh, perform a raid. And, uh, yeah, that's what that's what happened. Now, um, >> you're thinking, amazing. We have found the biggest cartel tuttle. Uh, there there had never been one bigger previously discovered. I I presume maybe there had been. I'm And there I don't know. I'm just I'm going to become a hero. Maybe you're thinking this is going to be great. And the exact opposite thing is true. And it's because they eventually find pictures of well, uh, was it an American lieutenant colonel? Who who exactly? Sorry, you I know you told me this. Was it a colonel? >> One of the commanders that was um with the border patrol um was actually posed with a photo um that was found on the Mexican side um after the tunnel apparently had been built um along with other Mexican military and and US military. So there had been some collaboration uh prior to us getting there. There had been some a lot of suspicion that uh the federal government knew that 80% I think it was 60 to 80% of the cocaine was coming through the Douglas, Arizona area. That's basically region six or that's why they called it JTF6. Um so they knew all the cocaine's coming through this one area. Um but the local authorities back then, you know, came up with shrugs like, you know, oh, we just don't see where it's coming from. So they suspected there was some uh there was some you know compromise of of officials down there. Um so yeah we we went to work and and it didn't take us long to pinpoint this. Um, so when they recovered that data and they recovered the photos, obviously u they had some of the top names of of who was helping out on the US side to help build the tunnel and also keep it functioning for at least 6 months. Uh, judging by the date on the photo. >> So I just wanted to ask you your attachment to because I'm trying to figure out why you're going to then go back to Fort Wuka. Is that where you were initially trained? Um, yeah, I was. Yeah. >> Fort. Okay. So, you were initially trained at Fort Wuka. What then ends up happening is they put you, you basically, you're not allowed to talk. You just get gagged for, is it 25 years the gag order lasted while they destroyed every layer of your life, fed your name to the cartels. You've been on the run. You've had to change your name. Your family is now in debt. You've been fighting lawsuits trying to get um the government to, I guess, defend you against the cartel gangs. And clearly they're angry because you stepped on their toes. It looks like I think that's a fair depiction uh of what happened here which we are learning more and more how corrupt and our I think the CIA was created to traffic to be clear. That's that's my opinion there. But you they effectively destroyed your life and gagged you in in the process. Is that a fair assessment of what happens next? >> Yeah, it is. Um, I could probably go into some detail that uh while we were down there, you know, I got to uh got the honor of incinerating all the uh uh it was about a ton of cocaine. It was and bunch of guns, bunch of money. Um, and then right afterward, we went right back to work and I ended up getting approached with a friend at uh NOA, Arizona. Um, not a friend, but another Border Patrol agent. And if it wasn't for him, I I was too stupid. I didn't understand why this person was coming up or why they had personal information on me. I I was a young kid. Um it was the Border Patrol agent that caught what it was about and um yeah, thank God. Uh he he knew what to do. Um took me back to base and they thought it was, you know, something I did uh to give away my identity. Uh so I was on base for uh it was the next day that I got brought into a briefing and by that time um the photos from the Mexican side had made their way to the American side and they were able to put together how my information got got fed um to the other side. As far as cartels and stuff like that, I you know it's just plain corruption at this point. It's it's and it's thick and yeah, they have followed me. Um there's been I've had people come through my windows. Um and it's not like I know these are it's like fantastical stories. We got the court documents. We got the we got the court cases. Um >> you've sent them to >> It's not just that we have those. It it's that uh the work that was done to even try to bury those afterward. Um it's pretty substantial and yeah I've got 20 years of this and you'd think you know one would think that u somebody in the federal government would care um or in any part of our government would care. Uh the more I've gone up the chain to try and u you know get more of these records as well as get answers uh to this saga. Um it just seems like I step on more and more toes and eventually that's what led me to going down to Fort Wuka was just to get the original records and find out you know why wasn't the FBI updated as to what my status was and you know why has this been allowed to um yeah basically use our own laws against me to attack my life. Um >> I feel >> I wanted answers. I I when I hear the story, it makes me it makes me so angry because it's just too many people that are serving our country only to figure out that our country is serving some other, you know, the interests of oligarchs truly. And I think we're kind of all coming to that moment right now and recognizing that it hasn't been left or right. It has been them, the a unique gang of oligarchs and criminals that are running every aspect of our lives. And um they would gladly have you die for them and could they they couldn't care less. I want to pivot now. So you you're uh they put you there's this gag order or you know non-disclosure agreement and it is 25 long years and it happens to 35 pardon me 35 years you're told yeah you can suffer the cartels can chase you change your name but you keep your mouth shut about it and finally in May this of this year this this uh it expires right this this gag order expires and you Say to yourself, I am going to go down to that base where I was trained. I'm going to go down to Fort Wuka, book myself into a hotel. I'm going to go to the criminal division, investigative division. I'm going to get that original paperwork and get some answers to why my I feel that my life has been effectively ruined for me having done what I was ordered to do by the government. >> So, you get to the base, and I want you to address this because there were so many people who were like, "There's no way you could have gotten on to the base. Obviously, you sent me your military cards and I think we can show a picture of that. You get onto the base and I want you to walk us through what time and I did show a timeline, but a bouch, you know, you don't have to be perfect here. We already showed a timeline, but like you get to the base and just kind of what's your general mood and this is on September 8th, the evening of September 8th at the Candlewood Inn and Suites, which you have given me all the documentation for. >> Okay. Yeah. And um getting into Tucson, there was a little bit of a issue getting the rental car and stuff. So that took a little while, a little bit of a delay, but we made reservations ahead of time for me to be there. And um yeah, I get down to the base. For those that think that uh people can't get on base, no, typically you can as long as you have your your ID, your insurance, and you have a purpose for being there. Um I certainly did. Uh, >> you can show that documentation as he's speaking. I'm sorry. Go ahead. >> Yeah. >> Um, so yeah, we made made reservations and uh I got to the hotel. I had uh it was sort of hard to find, but once I found it, I sort of recognized it because it was uh that was actually the barracks that I had when I was there in AIT training, but they converted it. So, uh yeah, that was pretty cool. All of a sudden, I'm staying in the same barracks. Um, really nice place, by the way. Wonderful beds. Um, but yeah, I check in and as I'm doing that, um, you can tell that there's regular, uh, military people, um, uh, young kids that are there. Um, probably just checking into post, stuff like that. Uh there were a couple people that that stood out and they're a little bit older and and um as I'm checking in, uh one guy that was sitting on the couch he just had a sheen to him. Um looked like he had a professional military sheen to him. If I had to guess um you know being a special forces guy I would have guessed that he's ex special forces probably doing you know something down there probably contract uh he was definitely waiting on something and >> age about just so we can get a description age >> you know I'd say 30 33 to 40 about there give or take Um, you know, I wasn't there to check out people, um, or check ID cards. Um, I just happen to know him. And veterans, especially SF guys, when you notice somebody like that, I almost had the impression so much so that I was going to go up and ask him what group he was with and say hi and thank him for his service. I didn't really get that chance. So, as I'm checking in and then I go to my room and then come back out, um he was joined and um joined by a female that you can you can definitely tell when um how do you put it? When people are well off and um they're dressing down. Um she was definitely dressing down and it was um very wellkept. Uh the one thing I noticed about the woman that really stuck out to me was was her eyes and um I have an ex that um has caused me a lot of problems. So, uh, when I see someone with with, uh, striking blue eyes like that, they stick out. And, um, I even I was on the phone, uh, with my, uh, with my wife here, and I even told her about it. I said, "Oh, gez. Uh, somebody has those kind of eyes." Um, it creeped me out a little bit, you know, and it had nothing to do with that person. I just, you know, life is what it is. But as I was checking in, they um I was going to go back and actually talk to that person, the the guy. And um yeah, they between me at the front desk and then going back to my room one time and then coming back out. I was going to go to dinner. Um yeah, they had gotten into uh there was a vehicle parked out front. uh big green truck G it looked like a real shiny GSA type. Um and yeah, they were getting into that vehicle and and driving off. And that night I went to dinner at some a little bit crazy. The people in Sierra Vista, they can probably verify there was a Mexican oh Mexican sushi place in Sierra Vista. So, I got dinner and and um it was a pretty good place actually. Um and then I came back and went to sleep that night, got up early the next morning, wanted to see the sunrise. Uh reminisce about, you know, um yeah, there we go. Just reminisce about having been there a long time ago. Um and uh even stopped to talk to some of the police. They tried to give me directions to to CD, but the buildings there are are uh they're sort of old World War II and they're also built on top of the foundations of um like almost Alamo era uh rocks and stuff and some of them aren't really well marked. So, um his direction sort of led me off on a wild goose chase. And I'll interject here while you're having a sip of water that this is when you accidentally take a video and it's 18 minutes long while this guy's giving you directions which you've also you've sent everything over. So there's no question you were here and everything happened because you tried to document this thinking you were going to get some justice from the past and and I I will let you continue telling the story. >> Yeah, I was there to get help. Um, and uh, I was really figuring some people would have a, you know, have some answers for me. Um, I couldn't find C, but as I'm wandering around and I finally decide, you know, I need to get some coffee and wake up, maybe have a little breakfast. Um, I noticed that there's some signs there that say JTF and uh, and JTF headquarters. I went in a couple of the buildings. There was nobody there yet. So, I continued on. I went and got coffee. Ran into some 10th Mountain people there. Um, they said they were there for JTF. Um, you know, we we sort of talked. I bought them coffee, I think, for their service. Uh, they sort of I asked where there would be a headquarters that I could go to to to speak to someone. They tried to explain it to me. Um, I forget they gave me a building name. Uh, and I don't necessarily want to, we don't want to disclose that kind of stuff, but uh, I went right back to the front gate and as I came in, I as they scanned me in with my ID card, um, yeah, I asked the gate guard there where, you know, where would this building be and how would I get there? Uh, he gave me detailed instructions on how to get there, how to wind around to get to that building. And so I did. And um it was obviously a a temporary setup for this new command down there. Um there was no gate guard. There was uh I I think they did have some um uh barb wire around the the field in the in the building, which made me hesitate for a second, but there was a it was a parking lot. So um I I just went in and parked. Um, I was on the phone with my MS here and uh told her, you know, uh, we'll see how it goes. We'll see what they say here and I I'll I'll call you in a few. Um, I ended up not being able to call it back for about seven hours. Um, and you can being in the military for a while, you notice when there's a lot of high ranking people around and you notice um when there's a little bit of a buzz and I I walked in there, I didn't know if it if this was just a new type of army uh that I haven't seen for a while. Um, but I walked up to the front desk. I sort of told him what I wanted. I initially talked to one captain for about five minutes um and then he stepped back out. He was going to go get someone. I stood there at the front and as I did um the guy that I thought was an XSF guy um he had walked out from uh from wherever it was and he was sort of walking out to the to the front doors and he stood there for a while waiting and then uh three more people came came around silly dressed and one he looked like a congressman uh had the pin, had the flag um you know congressman suit. Um, and there were a couple of people next to him and obviously they were trying to talk to him and uh they were sort of ping around. Um, but it was also sort of serious and um, uh, some of the military lieutenant colonels there and the and the unit sergeant major escorted them out. Um, they got into one of the GSAs. Um, for anybody in the military that knows about GSA, it it's the >> they own everything in the government. >> Could you Sorry, for those of us who don't know about this GSA, just to to break it down for us, I'm sorry to be so ignorant. What does that stand for? >> No. Uh, what was it? Government services uh administration or >> Okay, >> I forget what it is. >> No worries. Um what they they basically maintain all the property for the U for the federal government. >> Okay. >> Um so if you're in the military or if you're in federal government and you need a vehicle, uh basically you you go to one of the GSA places and it's like renting a vehicle at at Enterprise or something, but you have orders attached to it. Um, some of those vehicles there, they're reserved. Uh, at any GSA where they have VIPs that come in, for those in the know, they they keep a reserve um set of vehicles and they're extra shiny. They're they're like new off the lot. Um, you know, their tires aren't worn very well. So, uh, they all got into one of those vehicles and they they left. The sergeant major came back in. Him and I was I was teasing him about his tabs and how he didn't have his long tab and uh I think he had a Ranger tab and airborne or no, he didn't have airborne, he had airs assault. Anyway, uh I was teasing him about some of that. Um was supposed to go back and talk to him. I was finishing signing in when um yeah, a couple more captains came around the corners and they escorted me way out. Um they wanted to take me out of the building. I thought I was getting arrested and I didn't know what I had done wrong. Uh yeah, I'd given my name, uh the missions I had been attached to. Um I given the purpose why I was there. Uh, so and I was very polite about I was trying to be discreet as possible and um I had no idea what I was walking into. Obviously, you know, when congressmen are around, there's something special going on. Uh, but yeah, they escorted me out across the parking lot to the park benches there and uh me, one of the captains there, his name was Captain Nef. Um, nice guy. Um, yeah. And I I started telling him my story, what I'm telling you, and and what I was there for. Yes, that's the guy. Um, real decent gentleman. Um, and as we sat there, the other captain went in uh was going to get the Sergeant Major, and uh I don't know what exactly what happened, but uh before long, there was bunch of cruisers pulling up. There were police officers from different levels of the government. Um, I couldn't tell you all the different types of of um, law enforcement that were there uh, surrounding me and sort of putting up a wall between me and and the front door. Um, I did catch that there was yet another I don't know if it was the same GSA vehicle returning or a different one, but that did pull up to the building. Uh, I couldn't see who got in it. And um it ended up sort of a big deal. They kept interrogating me uh trying to gaslight me, ask me if I what I was there for, like I was some sort of a spy. Um I Yeah. And then they mentioned a bomb threat. They wanted to check my vehicle. Uh mentioned that because I was in special forces, uh obviously I must be some sort of a bomb threat. And for me, I I just figured uh this had to be some sort of the false flagging that uh that I've encountered from before. Um some sort of residual effect from that. So you're just thinking, you know, this has got something to do. This has been 35 years running. The government's corrupt. It's all about me fighting this cartel tunnel and this is just going to be the story of my life never getting any justice. That's what's going through your mind. >> Yeah. At this point, yeah, people, you know, people in the government start pointing guns at me. my house been squatting and stuff like that. I I just rolled my eyes. Um I literally [sighs and gasps] >> Sorry. >> I was just throwing my car keys out. They wanted my car keys. I I chucked it over and said, "Yeah, if you don't mind, park it closer cuz my bones are getting old and it hurts. >> I don't want to walk that far." Um >> so sad. >> So, Captain Nef was really nice. And um I asked him what this was about. He he tried to shrug it off and say he didn't know. There was another lady that seemed to be uh conducting the what this overreaction was. Um and she was defin you know she was in plain clothes undercover big sunglasses Hispanic woman. Um but you know if I had to guess probably secret service or something like that. Uh she didn't want to approach me directly. She was she was directing how other people would approach me and ask me questions, get my documents, stuff like that. Uh eventually they said, "Okay, we're going to take you to another location." They took me to uh they finally showed me where the C building was, I guess. Um put me in there and they recorded me for a while. um asked me a few questions and were they were very very concerned about the next 24 hours like they wanted they wanted to make sure I don't know maybe that I wasn't there for some other purpose or related to something. Um it was it was pretty odd. Um they didn't answer any of the questions I was there for. Uh they didn't give me the documentation they wanted. They did give me a report number to go ahead and you you went ahead and I gave that to you. >> You did. >> Uh we'll see what that says. But um yeah, they were looking for any excuse to try and um hold me up for like 24 hours. And that 24-hour number kept getting repeated u by them. And then eventually they didn't have anything to hold me. I wasn't a harm to myself or others. I wasn't there to, you know, spy on anybody. Um, I really just wanted to get records and and get out of that desert. Um, as reminiscent as it was, the place creeps me out a little bit. So, uh, yeah, once they said you have to stay off base for 24 hours, I was, "Don't worry about it. I ain't coming back." Um got to Tucson, stayed the night there in a hotel. Um never got a refund on my Candlewood Suites. Uh but um yeah, got on the plane and um before we touched down, I had a stop off in Salt Lake City. By the time we wheeled down that, you know, we got the news about Charlie Kirk. Um, and of course that's been just all over the all over the um all over the news. Everybody's watching it. And um you know I I don't think anybody's believing what the federal government's saying about it for sure. But uh what I noticed um I don't know these people from TP USA. um never been associated. I could recognize Charlie Kirk probably, but um what I started seeing come across and got more familiar once I saw a picture of somebody in a ponytail with those eyes, that was that person. They were there. And um yeah, the head of security there, he was one of the people walking out with the congressman. Now, how would I know that? I I just I just have a gift for recognizing people. And yeah, maybe it's not him. Maybe as doppelganger, but somebody with the same mannerisms, the same crick in his neck, face, waxy look on his face, hand gestures, uh, shoulder shrug, gate, approximate height, haircut definitely walked past me. Um, and >> you had to put it at a percentage that you were looking at Brian Harpole. Maybe he's got a brother in the military. Who knows, right? Maybe he does have a doppelganger. He's got a twin brother. Who knows? And I want to be clear, I can confirm on this podcast live every step of your story in terms of where you went, what time you were there. Um that there was this big meeting that happened. I confirmed a location with other people that are that are on uh Fort Wuka currently. I can confirm everything with metadata. Um I obviously can't confirm that you saw who you say you saw. If you had to put it at a percentage that you saw Brian Harpole, what percentage would you put it at? >> 95. >> 95%. Okay. >> 95 to 99. I when I saw him, you know, on the interview with the with his face and gestures, um I Yeah. with that photo, it struck me in my gut. Um, I blew it off until there was, you know, some other pictures that came up with other people. Um, >> what other people? Other pictures. >> Uh, if you want me to say it, there's a picture of Erica Kirk with a ponytail and um from from her past. That person matches who I saw at Fort Wuka in the lobby the night before and she was with that with that man in the lobby and that man he was present at that meeting uh the next morning. >> So >> if you had to put it at a percentage that you saw that the girl in the ponytail matches the description of Erica Kirk, what percentage would you put that at? Those are really rare eyes. Um, that's 95 to 99%. I I I can't imagine somebody else. Okay. So, what I'm going to say because obviously this that's very explosive and it's it's one of the reasons why I wanted I wasn't sure if I wanted to have you on. And I'm going to be honest with you because I gosh I mean I guess I'll tell you the conflict that I had and just be just as honest with you as as you are being with me. The first thing was I can't confirm it, right? I can confirm where you were. I can do all of that and but I I can't confirm what you what you think you saw. I don't know you. Um I don't know there are people like my husband who we can see someone once and he recognizes that person 10 years later exactly where we saw them and there are people like me and I kind of have facial blindness until I meet someone three times. The second thing was I didn't want people to wrongly extrapolate things and say, "Okay, well, maybe she was on the base. Maybe she w there's a chance she wasn't on the base, right? That she has a doppelganger. People do have doppelgangers. I have doppelgangers, right?" Um, but let's say she wasn't the base. Let's say you're right and you saw her. This is the night before. This is on the ETH. Maybe she was in the hotel, >> but maybe she was there for a different reason. Maybe she was there because she's always been open about the fact that her mother moved to Arizona because she got involved with the military. So that could be totally unrelated to the meeting that took place on the 9th and I didn't want to. But then I I I said to myself, I am this man has lived through so much. You know what I mean? This man has lived through so much and I would be turning my back on this really a hero discovering the cartels who's lived through so much and has been treated like the government. And then I I struggled with my own soul going, I'm turning my my back on him because I'm afraid of backlash for allowing him to tell the truth. And so and and my soul was in conflict. And I decided that you know what, I am not this is not my platform. Okay? I I genuinely believe this is God's platform. I am a conduit. I don't know why I have a platform. And I don't know why you have this luck in life. I really don't. I don't know why these things happened to you or why they happened to me, but I know that my my prayer was very intentional that night uh that I received that email. So, I'm going to allow the internet to hear your testimony, hear what you think. And I also want to show them a picture because we did look through some congressmen and I didn't tell you where they were congressman from, but there is one that you thought looked familiar. Uh and I am going to show that picture of him now. Uh, this is and Skyler, someone's got to get in my air because I'm blanking on his name. Mark, is that right? Mark from Las Vegas. And you thought that this could potentially be the congressman that you saw on the ninth. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> That's the one that walked closest to you. >> That's 95. I'm absolutely, you know, after I've looked at it, um, that's Yeah, that was definitely the guy. >> Okay. Now, we have then been able to look at flights and look at who could have been at that meeting. We were able to confirm based on a call sign that there was somebody heavy duty that was at Fort Wuka Air uh Fort Wuka, pardon on that morning who uh made sure to turn off their transponder. So we are the clues the picture is coming together that you saw what you saw then that call sign did change at a certain time which lets us know that then it could have been moved to a congressman. There could be a chance that that person they were blocking you from seeing when they all lined up might have been someone that is it could be Cash Patel. I mean I have it could be Cash Patel. That's someone who could have a call sign running ideas. It could also not be him. Uh and I I want to be clear. I do think you saw I think I think that is the reason they surrounded you was to make sure you couldn't see who was walking out. I think your instincts are right on that and I don't know what to say other than I know what you are going to go through now and I want you to know that you have an ally with me and I know how much you are already going through fighting them and I intend to help you raise money uh to go through these lawsuits with the federal government. I know this is not easy. I know what your kid has been through. I know what your wife has been through and no one should have to be through this, have to go through this because they told the truth and potentially stumbled upon something corrupt, did definitively uh stumble upon something corrupt. And I think the public will be with you because they see what I'm going through right now uh being sued by a transatlantic president overseas for just trying to tell the truth. And um I just want you to know that like I know that this is hard for you and given everything you've been through, but like I am here with you. I'm going to to fund raise money for you and I'm here for you and your family through whatever comes next. >> Oh boy, that's really wonderful. I I um and I've told you thank you. I'd like to see justice. I'd like to see our I'd like to see our government being honest again or some some level. I don't know [sighs and gasps] why I was there or why I got to see what I did or or how I happened to walk in on something. I wasn't there to, you know, obviously I didn't know what was going to happen the next 24 hours. It seems coincidental that that was the number they kept bringing up and whatever they were doing, it was important and they didn't want any anybody looking at it. And okay, the military does that stuff. That's that's what they do. I thank you, you know, for everything, but really after hearing some of the other stuff, hearing about some of the threats against you and I and I do I watch some of the other podcasters, Valhalla, um really good guy, even if he he gave me a bunch of bunch of crap about stuff. Um fellow brother there from First Group. Um, no, he he had uh when he interviewed the French Foreign Legion, he and he got to learn a little bit about sometimes how in the intelligence world how things cross over and other countries are a little bit dirtier and they borrow resources from us. Um, for Wuka is one of those places they would have to have done that. And when I I had I had to pray myself and be on I I tried to I just wanted to give I just wanted to give you a tip. [sighs and gasps] Uh since you're pulling on these threads and I had no idea that you were going to do all this. Uh-huh. >> I want you to know there there were there were literally >> 51,000 emails unanswered in that box >> and I went to church and I prayed and I said, "Give me something." And I it was it was the first email just like I said to you. I mean I what did I call four minutes after the email was sent and it was actually me. I didn't send it to like my producer. I was just like, "Hey, maybe maybe this is it." And I I can't help but to see God in in that. And and not, you know, God as in people being trained in intelligence to make us think that everything is holy, but rather truly I saw God in that. And um yeah, just it just it's it's stunning. It's it's hard not to see God in something like that happening in that order. So um I don't know what comes next, but I just want you to know that like you have an ally in me and I I will I'm a I hope you see that I am a fighter and when I see good people and bad things happen to them, I will fight. And same for the people that watch this podcast. They are they are they are fighters as well. So, and they've had my back and they will have your back. I promise you that. >> I really appreciate that. There are a lot of people in the military who um we see things. I'm sure there's people down at Fort Wuka and other places that have seen things and and um there's a lot of people that stay quiet to stay nice to to you know um not be in conflict. and I had to pray. Um, this doesn't help this doesn't help my situation at all. It's going to aggravate it. I'm absolutely sure. And, um, but the truth matters. And, um, that's why we wanted to send this up to you. We had no idea all of a sudden you'd be calling us. U, that was You really interrupted our gym time, by the way. and we really need it. Um, typically I try to laugh things off quite a bit, but things are getting quite serious and uh, I think Baron Coleman, he gets it. Um, keep pulling those threads >> and I hope stay safe >> and same to you. And, um, like I said, I I'm going to put together a fundraiser for you um, you know, imminently. So, and this is obviously it's just the first conversation we're having. Uh, I just want to thank you from the bottom of my heart, not not just for for sharing what happened, and I do believe you are missing piece of this. I also want to thank you for your service. I want to thank you for trying to do what our government should be doing, which is stopping the cartels and not partnering with them. And so, just to thank you for your military service and all that you've gone through. >> Thank you, Miss H. Thank you, Candace. >> Thank you. >> We will say thank you also. >> [laughter] >> Thank you guys. >> We will be [clears throat] right back you guys. Uh I'm going to let Mitch sign off here and then I will answer some of your questions after some sponsors. >> Good news you guys. 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Our government sickens me. people telling me that I need to worry about midterms when there's just so much corruption that is happening um and good men that are being persecuted while bad men are being protected. Uh so I wanted to just basically say that you if you look on my socials I'll make sure that I get a uh fundraiser out for Mitch and his family and hopefully we can help them with some of the legal costs that they have endured. Curbster writes, "We stand behind you, Mitch, and your family just as much as we stand behind Oh, we stand behind you, Mitch, and your family just as much as we stand behind Candace. Thank you for your service and continued bravery and resolve despite our government not doing the same for you. May God continue to protect you and use you to