Farage: “Free Speech Is Under Attack” After Kirk Killing, Minister Defects to Reform UK | APT

[00:00] Uh and certainly our advocacy of zero

[00:04] tolerance particularly for areas like

[00:06] shoplifting uh really uh caught the mood

[00:09] of the country and plus our insistence

[00:12] on stop and search which interestingly

[00:14] is popular across all sections of

[00:16] society regardless whether you're on the

[00:18] left the center or the right of

[00:21] politics. Sadly, at the same time, free

[00:24] speech has been genuinely under attack.

[00:28] And I think the final implementation of

[00:32] what was well-intentioned legislation,

[00:33] frankly, is quite chilling. And that

[00:36] allows the public now to believe that

[00:38] we're living in a world of two-tier

[00:41] poling and sentencing. And indeed, if we

[00:44] just look at it, you know, if you're a

[00:45] child minder who says something deeply

[00:47] intolerant and wrong, but only once

[00:49] ever, it's a long prison sentence. And

[00:52] even if you're a foreign national

[00:55] arriving at Heathrow airport, well, if

[00:57] you've said something the authorities

[00:58] don't like, you may well be arrested by

[01:02] five armed officers.

[01:05] And if you don't think it's two-tier,

[01:06] well, have a think about this. On

[01:08] Friday, there were some very explicit

[01:11] threats posted on Tik Tok for me to be

[01:14] killed.

[01:16] Pretty sick in the light of what

[01:18] happened to Charlie Kurt, but quite

[01:20] explicit. been told this morning by the

[01:22] Metropolitan Police that those posts

[01:25] don't meet the threshold for further

[01:27] action. So, I think we are, you know,

[01:30] without doubt living in a two-tier

[01:32] country. But, frankly, having led the

[01:36] opinion polls for over 100 opinion

[01:38] polls,

[01:40] the only responsible thing that we can

[01:44] do is to prepare. And that's why I

[01:47] announced at conference we'll be setting

[01:49] up a department preparing for

[01:52] government. And that is the responsible

[01:55] thing that we're going to do. And that

[01:56] process starts today when we take on

[01:59] somebody who will head up that

[02:00] department, find talent, find people

[02:03] with experience in the civil service, in

[02:05] government, and help us get ready for

[02:08] what will be a monumental task. Radical

[02:12] change in a country like this is not

[02:14] easy, but it's necessary because if it's

[02:16] not done, many of us believe this

[02:18] country will be well and truly sunk. So

[02:21] the man that has been given the job,

[02:24] this enormous responsibility

[02:27] is a member of parliament for East

[02:29] Wiltshire. His name is Danny Krueger and

[02:32] he joins me, I hope he does, on the

[02:34] stage now.

[02:37] [Applause]

[02:52] Thank you very much indeed Nigel.

[02:55] Good to see you all.

[02:57] I have been variously a member, an

[03:01] activist, an employee of the

[03:03] Conservative Party for over 20 years.

[03:07] And I have many friends in the party,

[03:10] many good and decent people, which is

[03:12] why it is so personally painful for me

[03:14] to be doing what I'm doing today.

[03:19] There have been moments when I've been

[03:20] very proud to belong uh to the Tory

[03:23] party. In 2010, I was inspired by the

[03:26] big society, by schools reform and

[03:29] welfare reform. I was thrilled by Brexit

[03:33] and by what Boris Johnson pulled off in

[03:36] 2019.

[03:38] But those were exceptions to the rule.

[03:42] The rule of our time in office was

[03:45] failure. bigger government, social

[03:48] decline, low wages, high taxes, and less

[03:53] of what ordinary people actually wanted.

[03:57] And now our country is entering the most

[04:00] profound set of crises in my lifetime

[04:04] under a government even worse, far worse

[04:07] than the one it replaced.

[04:09] Crisis in the economy, crisis at the

[04:12] border, crisis in our streets, crisis in

[04:16] our military, crisis for young people.

[04:20] Yes, we are still a great country and

[04:23] there are good reasons that so many

[04:24] migrants want to come here.

[04:27] But there are also reasons so many

[04:29] entrepreneurs and young people want to

[04:31] leave.

[04:33] Britain is not broken,

[04:36] but it is badly damaged.

[04:38] And so in this crisis, something's got

[04:41] to give.

[04:43] I hoped after our defeat last year that

[04:45] the Conservative Party would learn the

[04:47] obvious lesson,

[04:49] that the old ways don't work, that

[04:52] centism is not enough, that real change

[04:56] is needed.

[04:58] But no, we've had a year of stasis and

[05:02] drift and a sham unity that comes from

[05:06] not doing anything bold or difficult or

[05:08] controversial.

[05:11] And the result is in the polls.

[05:14] And those lost voters aren't coming

[05:17] back. And every day more and more people

[05:20] are joining them in deserting the party

[05:23] that has failed.

[05:25] And so this is my tragic conclusion.

[05:29] The Conservative Party is over. Over as

[05:34] a national party, over as the principal

[05:36] opposition to the left.

[05:40] But I am not despondent because

[05:43] Conservatism is not over. It's never

[05:46] been needed more. And actually, it's

[05:47] never been more vibrant

[05:50] because the failure of the Conservative

[05:52] Party has created space for an

[05:54] alternative.

[05:56] The flame is passing from one torch to

[05:59] another.

[06:01] The old torch, once so great, is

[06:04] guttering, spluttering, held weakly in

[06:07] uncertain hands.

[06:10] But the new torch is already a light,

[06:13] already brighter than the one it is

[06:14] replacing, held a loft in firm and

[06:18] confident hands.

[06:19] >> Mr. Fraj, if I could get your response

[06:21] to the scenes that we saw over the

[06:23] weekend, the the marches, the presence

[06:26] of Tommy Robinson, and in particular um

[06:28] the comments of Elon Musk, fight or die.

[06:31] What do you make of all of that?

[06:33] As for Saturday, I think the vast

[06:35] majority of people that turned up were

[06:36] good, ordinary, decent people who are

[06:38] very, very concerned about what's

[06:40] happening in this country. I've noticed

[06:42] that the the wave of flags that was that

[06:45] started about 3 weeks ago going up

[06:47] around the country, far from subsiding

[06:50] from what I could see this weekend, it's

[06:52] accelerating massively. There is and it

[06:55] is a collective two fingers up to a

[06:58] British establishment that they feel

[06:59] utterly betrayed by in every single way.

[07:02] So I fully understand why why people why

[07:04] people would go and march the comments

[07:07] of Elon Musk you ask me about well Elon

[07:09] and I have a um relationship

[07:14] wouldn't say a very good one he's

[07:16] generally rather rude about me even

[07:17] though I do admire him in many ways you

[07:20] know it would be nice to get some

[07:22] clarification of what fight meant in

[07:25] that context and I'll link it back to

[07:27] something that Danny said earlier we are

[07:29] radical but we're not revolutionaries

[07:31] ries. If the fight that Musk was talking

[07:35] about was about standing up for our

[07:38] rights of free speech, if it was about

[07:40] fighting in elections to overcome the

[07:43] established parties, then that

[07:44] absolutely is the fight that we're in.

[07:47] And the reason you asked the question, I

[07:49] think the the context of the way the

[07:51] word was used led a degree of ambiguity.

[07:54] Look, I knew Charlie Kirk for virtually

[07:56] 10 years. Knew him pretty well.

[07:58] Campaigned around America with him.

[08:00] spoke at Turning Point conferences. You

[08:02] know, I knew the guy very, very well.

[08:04] Uh, and obviously deeply upset by what

[08:06] happened. Some of the reaction to it was

[08:08] vile.

[08:10] Vile.

[08:11] But if you believe in free speech, you

[08:14] have to allow people to say distasteful

[08:16] things. But equally, if you believe in

[08:18] free speech, you believe there are

[08:20] limits to free speech. An incitement to

[08:24] kill. I would have thought

[08:28] I know is way beyond what even a free

[08:32] speech champion such as myself thinks is

[08:35] acceptable. And yes, these were aimed at

[08:37] me personally. I mean, look, it's not a

[08:40] very pleasant experience. Let's put it

[08:41] like that. And so, I did challenge the

[08:44] police to do something, but they've

[08:46] decided this does not meet the

[08:49] threshold. Gosh, imagine if I make if I

[08:52] made some joke about the trans

[08:53] community, I'd probably be in real

[08:55] trouble. And that is at the heart of

[08:58] two-tier Britain, two-tier policing,

[09:00] two-tier justice, and two-tier care. And

[09:03] it's one of the reasons the flags are

[09:05] going up all over this country. The

[09:07] public have susted it. The government is

[09:10] not on the side of ordinary decent

[09:12] working people. As for the march again

[09:14] on Saturday, look, if some people were

[09:16] offended by it or felt worried by it,

[09:19] then that is a great shame. Tell you

[09:21] what's even worse, the fact that over

[09:24] 50% of women don't feel safe walking the

[09:27] streets of London. Can you believe that

[09:30] in our capital city? Can you believe it?

[09:32] And by the way, that's not just at

[09:34] nighttime, it includes during daytime,

[09:37] too.

[09:38] >> And Mr. Krue, uh Mr. Farage, rather, um

[09:41] what is your direct message to police

[09:43] officers, 26 of those who are left

[09:45] injured at these this weekend's rallies?

[09:48] Um you are leveling some heavy

[09:50] accusations at them those who are trying

[09:52] to do their jobs that uh they are

[09:54] conducting two-tier policing but how is

[09:57] this helpful to them?

[09:58] >> Yeah I mean 26 police officers being

[10:00] injured is horrendous

[10:03] and people will say it's not as bad as

[10:04] Notting Hill. It's not as bad as other

[10:07] demonstrations but it is horrible. It is

[10:09] bad. I feared something like that would

[10:12] happen. Um, there is no defense of the

[10:15] use of violence that some people used on

[10:17] Saturday. But I do repeat, not defending

[10:20] any of it, but I do repeat the vast

[10:22] majority of those who caught the train

[10:23] to London for the day were good,

[10:25] ordinary, decent people.