FBI Testimony, Charlie Kirk’s Murder, and the Ideology Driving Violence

[00:00] QUOTE THAT'S 1833496 FIVE.

[00:11] WELCOME BACK TO THIS REAL

[00:11] AMERICA'S VOICE NEWSBREAK.

[00:12] I'M TERENCE BEE.

[00:19] >> QUESTIONS ABOUT AGENCY'S INVN

[00:21] OF CHARLIE KIRK'S ASSASSINATION

[00:23] TO THE INNER WORKINGS OF THE

[00:24] BUREAU.

[00:27] >> AND IN CLOSING, MR. CHAIRMAN

[00:28] AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE

[00:28] AND RANKING MEMBER DURBIN, I'M

[00:31] HONORED TO BE THE NINTH

[00:31] DIRECTOR OF THE FBI.

[00:35] I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

[00:36] IF YOU WANT TO CRITICIZE MY 16

[00:38] YEARS OF SERVICE, PLEASE BRING

[00:38] IT ON.

[00:39] >> OVER TO YOU.

[00:41] >> DURING HIS TESTIMONY, PATEL

[00:41] PROMISED THAT THE BUREAU WILL

[00:45] CONTINUE ITS QUEST FOR

[00:45] TRANSPARENCY.

[00:46] AS FOR THE INVESTIGATION INTO

[00:49] CHARLIE KIRK'S MURDER, PATEL

[00:49] APPLAUDED THE COOPERATIVE WORK

[00:53] HAPPENING BETWEEN HIS AGENTS

[00:53] AND STATE AND LOCAL LAW

[00:54] ENFORCEMENT IN UTAH.

[00:57] QUOTE TYLER ROBINSON IS IN

[00:58] CUSTODY TODAY BECAUSE OF THIS

[01:01] PARTNERSHIP.

[01:01] SPEAKING OF TYLER ROBINSON,

[01:05] HE'S EXPECTED TO BE OFFICIALLY

[01:06] CHARGED WITH CAPITAL MURDER AS

[01:06] SOON AS TODAY.

[01:09] HIS INITIAL COURT APPEARANCE IS

[01:10] SCHEDULED FOR LATER TODAY BY

[01:11] VIDEO FROM HIS CELL.

[01:13] WE'RE EXPECTING A NEWS

[01:13] CONFERENCE AND CONFIRMING THE

[01:14] CHARGES HERE THIS AFTERNOON ON

[01:17] MONDAY.

[01:17] FBI DIRECTOR KASH PATEL

[01:18] CONFIRMING THE 22 YEAR OLD

[01:21] SUSPECT'S DNA WAS FOUND ON A

[01:22] TOWEL THAT WAS WRAPPED AROUND

[01:24] THE RIFLE BELIEVED TO HAVE BEEN

[01:25] USED TO KILL CHARLIE KIRK.

[01:28] INVESTIGATORS ALSO SAYING THEY

[01:29] HAVE DNA EVIDENCE LINKING THE

[01:32] ALLEGED ASSASSIN TO A

[01:32] SCREWDRIVER THAT WAS FOUND IN

[01:33] THE ROOFTOP WHERE THE DEADLY

[01:36] SHOT WAS FIRED.

[01:37] PLUS THE FBI DIRECTOR SAYS THE

[01:38] SUSPECT ALSO BELIEVE THE GUY

[01:47] WROTE A PHYSICAL NOTE SAYING

[01:47] THAT IT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY

[01:49] THAT IF HE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY

[01:57] TO BE ABLE TO RECONSTRUCT IT.

[01:58] >> DIRECTOR PATEL, AS I SAID

[01:59] WAS ON CAPITOL HILL EARLIER

[02:01] TODAY APPEARING THROUGHOUT THE

[02:09] DAY HERE IN REAL AMERICA'S

[02:10] VOICE.

[02:10] >> THAT'S GOING TO DO IT FOR

[02:11] YOUR HEADLINES.

[02:12] >> I'M TERRENCE BATES. BACK TO E

[02:31] KIRK SHOW.

[02:34] >> I'M ANDREW CORVET, THE

[02:35] EXECUTIVE PRODUCER AND WE WERE

[02:41] TALKING IN THE IN THE BREAK.

[02:45] >> BEN, YOU NOTICED SOMETHING

[02:45] YOU PICK SOMETHING UP.

[02:51] >> PAUSE.

[02:52] WHY ARE YOU SO HATEFUL RIGHT?

[02:56] >> WE ALL LAUGH BECAUSE IT'S

[02:57] INHERENTLY RIDICULOUS BECAUSE

[02:57] CHARLIE OBVIOUSLY IS NOT BEING

[03:06] THIS REAL RAGE OR AT LEAST IF

[03:07] WE'RE NOT, WE SHOULD BE.

[03:07] >> AND THE QUESTION IS WHERE TO

[03:08] DIRECT IT.

[03:09] >> AND I THE IMPETUS FOR

[03:16] VIOLENCE IN THAT STATEMENT WHEN

[03:17] SHE SAYS WHY ARE YOU SO

[03:20] HATEFUL?

[03:20] THAT'S KIND OF THE WHOLE THING

[03:23] .

[03:24] THE REASON I SAY THAT IS

[03:24] BECAUSE THERE IS A BASIC

[03:25] FRAMEWORK FOR THERE'S BEEN THIS

[03:27] FLATTENING WHERE WE PRETEND

[03:28] THAT ALL IDEOLOGIES ARE EQUALLY

[03:28] LIKELY TO CREATE VIOLENCE.

[03:32] THERE'S A FAVOR OF THE MEDIA,

[03:32] RIGHT OR POLITICIANS POLITICAL

[03:35] VIOLENCE IS BAD.

[03:36] HOWEVER, IT'S FOR POLITICAL

[03:36] VIOLENCE ON BOTH SIDES.

[03:39] EVERYONE'S DOING OKAY.

[03:39] >> HERE'S THE THING WE ALL KNOW

[03:40] WHICH IDEOLOGY.

[03:43] >> EVERYONE KNOWS WHICH

[03:44] IDEOLOGIES ARE MOST LIKELY.

[03:45] WE ARE NOT BURNING DOWN THE

[03:46] COUNTRY.

[03:47] WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT BURNING

[03:47] DOWN BUSINESSES.

[03:51] >> WE'RE NOT THROWING ROCKS AT

[03:51] POLICE.

[03:52] WE'RE PRAYING.

[03:52] CORRECT.

[03:52] AND LET'S BE REAL ABOUT THIS.

[03:55] THE MINUTE LITERALLY THE MINUTE

[03:56] I HEARD THAT CHARLIE WAS SHOT.

[03:59] I KNOW ABOUT YOU GUYS BUT I HAD

[04:00] SOME PRETTY GOOD SUSPICIONS AS

[04:01] TO WHAT IDEOLOGY WAS BEHIND THE

[04:02] MURDER OF OUR FRIEND.

[04:03] >> IT'S ALWAYS THE ONES YOU

[04:07] MOST EXPECT.

[04:07] >> AND SO THE QUESTION IS WHY?

[04:08] THE QUESTION IS WHY.

[04:11] AND THE ANSWER IS BECAUSE

[04:11] THERE'S A FRAMEWORK OF MIND

[04:12] THAT HAS BEEN CREATED IN WHICH

[04:15] PEOPLE CLAIM THAT THERE IS THE

[04:15] PROBLEMS IN THEIR OWN LIFE AND

[04:16] THIS IS WHAT CHARLIE STOOD

[04:18] AGAINST, RIGHT?

[04:18] BECAUSE CHARLIE WAS CONSTANTLY

[04:19] TALKING ABOUT PERSONAL

[04:19] RESPONSIBILITY AND MAKING YOUR

[04:20] LIFE BETTER AND TAKE YOUR LIFE

[04:22] IN YOUR OWN HANDS AND YOU CAN

[04:23] BE A SUCCESS, RIGHT?

[04:23] THAT'S THE CLIP WE PLAYED

[04:24] EARLIER FOR MEN LIKE BE BETTER,

[04:27] BE BETTER.

[04:27] IF YOU ARE A PERSON WHO TAKES

[04:29] THE FAILURES IN YOUR OWN LIFE

[04:30] AND YOU EXTERNALIZE THOSE ONTO

[04:31] A SHADOWY GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO

[04:34] ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF YOUR

[04:34] FAILURES AND THEN YOU SAY THOSE

[04:37] PEOPLE ARE VICTIMIZING ME TO

[04:38] THE POINT WHERE THEY ARE

[04:38] GENOCIDAL ERASING ME TRANS

[04:42] ERASURE I TRANS GENOCIDE AND

[04:43] THEN YOU SAY WELL IF THOSE

[04:47] PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO KILL ME

[04:47] IT'S SELF-DEFENSE, RIGHT?

[04:48] SPEECH IS VIOLENCE.

[04:49] IT'S SELF-DEFENSE FOR ME TO

[04:50] SHOOT SOMEBODY LIKE CHARLIE

[04:51] KIRK FOR SAYING THAT WHEN SHE

[04:53] SAYS WHY ARE YOU SO HATEFUL?

[04:54] THE REASON SHE PROCEEDING FACT

[04:57] IS HATE IS BECAUSE IT IS A

[04:58] DENIAL OF HER SENSE OF IDENTITY

[05:01] AND ANY SENSE OF THREAT THAT IS

[05:02] NOW JUSTIFYING VIOLENCE.

[05:05] THAT IS THE REALITY.

[05:05] THERE'S AN UNDERGIRDING TO SOME

[05:06] OF THESE IDEOLOGIES,

[05:08] PARTICULARLY THIS IDEOLOGY THAT

[05:09] HAS VIOLENT EXTREMISM AS AN

[05:13] AFTER EFFECT.

[05:14] THAT'S JUST A REALITY.

[05:16] AND THERE THERE ARE

[05:17] IDEOLOGIES THAT ARE THAT ARE

[05:17] LIKE THIS.

[05:18] I THINK THAT I THINK THAT THE

[05:21] BLM IDEOLOGY HAD ASPECTS

[05:22] OF THIS FOR SURE.

[05:22] I THINK RADICAL ISLAM AS

[05:24] CHARLIE ROUTINELY TALKED ABOUT

[05:24] PARTICULARLY IN THE LAST COUPLE

[05:25] OF WEEKS BEFORE HIS MURDER.

[05:27] RADICAL ISLAM OBVIOUSLY IS

[05:27] DEEPLY ENSCONCED IN THE SORT

[05:31] OF CONSPIRACY THEORY ABOUT OUR

[05:31] FAILURE IS THE FAULT OF ALL

[05:32] THESE OTHER PEOPLE.

[05:32] THESE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO HARM

[05:35] US.

[05:35] THEREFORE WE ARE JUSTIFIED IN

[05:36] DOING VIOLENCE TO THEM.

[05:38] AND WHEN I SEE THE NEW YORK

[05:39] TIMES TROTTING OUT HASAN PIKER

[05:42] REPEATEDLY NOW THIS IS LIKE THE

[05:44] SECOND TIME REPEATEDLY TO TALK

[05:45] ABOUT CHARLIE'S MURDER AS

[05:46] THOUGH HE IS THE REPRESENTATIVE

[05:49] OF OF GOOD FAITH DEBATE WHEN

[05:50] HIS HE IS BACK TO EVERY TERROR

[05:50] GROUP AND I CAN I CAN IMAGINE

[05:53] AND LEGITIMATELY OPENLY CALLED

[05:54] FOR SAID AMERICANS SERVE 911

[05:57] YEAR HAS OPENLY TALKED ABOUT

[05:57] HOW HIS POLITICAL OPPOSITION

[06:00] SHOULD BE PHYSICALLY HARMED.

[06:00] >> YOU'RE A LAWYER RIGHT?

[06:03] I MEAN WHEN DOES IT CROSS THE

[06:04] LINE INTO INCITEMENT?

[06:05] DOES IT HAS TO BE WHEN IS A

[06:09] SPECIFIC NAME HAS TO BE USED

[06:09] BECAUSE THIS THIS IS RELEVANT

[06:12] TO WHAT HAPPENED WITH PAM BONDI

[06:13] IN THE CLIP THAT'S I MEAN, YOU

[06:15] KNOW, SHE WAS SAYING THAT SHE

[06:16] BASICALLY SAID HATE SPEECH IS

[06:19] ILLEGAL.

[06:19] AND CHARLIE, I MEAN I THINK SHE

[06:20] ENDED UP CLARIFYING LATER TO

[06:23] HER CREDIT THAT THE CLIP AS I'M

[06:24] TOLD IS INCOMPLETE.

[06:26] SHE ENDED UP QUOTING INCITEMENT

[06:27] RIGHT, MICHAEL?

[06:32] >> LOOK, IT'S THE PHRASE TO

[06:33] USE.

[06:33] YES.

[06:34] IF YOU'RE JUST SAYING THAT

[06:35] THREATS AND INCITEMENT ARE

[06:35] ILLEGAL, OF COURSE THEY ARE.

[06:36] YOU DON'T NEED TO SAY HATE

[06:39] SPEECH.

[06:39] NO, EXACTLY.

[06:40] SO THEY LEFT OUT?

[06:40] NO.

[06:40] BUT IS FOR THINGS I DON'T LIKE.

[06:42] YEAH I MEAN IT BUT IT TIES INTO

[06:43] IT TIES INTO WHAT HAPPENS NEXT

[06:45] HERE AND THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING

[06:46] BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE YOU

[06:49] KNOW, THERE WAS A PUSH TO SORT

[06:50] OF SMOKE OUT ALL THESE PEOPLE

[06:50] THAT WERE CRITICIZING BUT NOT A

[07:00] LEGAL ONE.

[07:00] WHEN DOES IT BECOME A LEGAL

[07:01] CONSEQUENCE?

[07:01] SO I THINK THAT WHAT THEY'VE

[07:02] BEEN ATTEMPTING TO DO IN THEY

[07:10] SHOULD BE AT THIS POINT AND

[07:10] THAT IF THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO

[07:14] ARE FUNDING GROUPS THAT ARE

[07:14] VIOLENT, THEN WE SHOULD

[07:15] OBVIOUSLY BE LOOKING INTO THEM

[07:17] PROBABLY UNDER RACKETEERING

[07:17] LAWS AND CONSPIRACY LAWS.

[07:18] IF YOU ARE DONATING MONEY TO A

[07:22] MORMON FRIENDS FREE GROUP THAT

[07:25] IS OPENLY PLANNING VIOLENCE

[07:26] THEN YOU SHOULD BE HELD LEGALLY

[07:30] ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT IN THE WAY

[07:30] THAT YOU WOULD BE AS WE ALL

[07:33] KNOW IF IT WERE A WHITE

[07:34] SUPREMACIST GROUP AND YOU WERE

[07:34] FUNDING A WHITE SUPREMACIST

[07:35] GROUP WE ALL KNOW THAT THAT

[07:37] WOULD BE INVESTIGATED BY THE

[07:37] FBI.

[07:37] AND I DON'T MEAN TO STEP ON

[07:38] YOUR POINT HERE, BUT I JUST

[07:41] WANT TO UNDERSCORE WHY WHAT

[07:41] YOU'RE SAYING IS SO CRITICAL

[07:42] AND I WANT THE AUDIENCE TO

[07:44] UNDERSTAND THAT IS BECAUSE ONE

[07:44] OF CHARLIE'S BEST FRIENDS IN

[07:45] THE ADMINISTRATION WAS STEVEN

[07:48] MILLER AND STEPHEN MILLER CAME

[07:49] ON OUR SHOW YESTERDAY.

[07:52] I THINK HE SAID THE SAME THING

[07:53] ON HANNITY THE LAST TEXT

[07:53] MESSAGE AND THERE'S SO MANY

[07:57] PROPHETIC LITTLE NUGGETS GUYS,

[07:57] I, I WISH I COULD SHARE THEM

[07:59] ALL.

[07:59] THE LAST TEXT MESSAGE HE SHARED

[08:00] WITH STEPHEN MILLER WAS WE HAVE

[08:04] TO ROOT OUT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE

[08:08] FUNDING THE VIOLENCE.

[08:08] >> WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT

[08:09] HERE IS ORGANIZED CRIME.

[08:10] YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO BREAK BUT

[08:11] IT'S THIS WILL NOT GO AWAY

[08:14] BECAUSE STEPHEN'S A DOG WITH A

[08:15] BONE RIGHT BAC