Glenn Beck and Megyn Kelly Process the Shocking Assassination of Charlie Kirk and What Comes Next

[00:00] Yesterday was such a surreal day.

[00:08] I was getting ready to record my special

[00:11] last night.

[00:14] It's in the afternoon

[00:16] and I'm sitting here in my studio and I

[00:21] look at the stairs through this glass

[00:24] door that I have here and my wife is on

[00:28] the phone and she's

[00:31] standing in the stairway and and she has

[00:33] her

[00:35] her hand gripping the stair rail

[00:40] and I could see it in her eyes. She was

[00:42] on the phone

[00:44] and I could see confusion and I could

[00:46] see trouble

[00:49] and in my ear I'm hearing five, four,

[00:55] three. And I said, "Stop, stop, stop,

[00:58] stop.

[01:00] I need 30 seconds. I need to talk to my

[01:02] wife." And I motioned for her to come

[01:05] in. And in a confused and dazed sort of

[01:09] way, she

[01:12] kind of stumbles into the room and I

[01:14] said, "What's happening, honey?" And she

[01:17] said, "It's Cheyenne."

[01:22] I didn't know what that meant.

[01:28] As a dad, you can imagine.

[01:33] I said, "Is she okay? What? What's

[01:35] happening?

[01:38] She meant it's Cheyenne on the phone.

[01:43] Cheyenne had just gotten past the crush

[01:46] of the crowd. She called her mom.

[01:53] She said,

[01:55] "Charlie Kirk's just been shot."

[02:03] What?

[02:10] She sent me some

[02:12] video

[02:20] and I knew it was true,

[02:24] but I hoped for the best

[02:27] until a few minutes later somebody else

[02:29] sent me a video that I hope you did not

[02:31] see.

[02:34] of the bullet striking him.

[02:39] It must have been

[02:43] like what it was when you first saw the

[02:46] Zuprruder film or if you were standing

[02:49] in the grassy null.

[02:52] You just knew.

[03:00] I was on with Megan Kelly

[03:04] and we were holding on to the hope that

[03:06] he

[03:10] was somehow or another going to survive

[03:11] that.

[03:14] And Megan said at one point, "I don't

[03:16] know why I'm not announcing

[03:18] what everybody else is announcing, but I

[03:20] just can't." Megan joins us now. Hi,

[03:23] Megan.

[03:24] >> Hi, Glenn.

[03:28] >> What a weird 24 hours it has been.

[03:33] Where are you this morning in unraveling

[03:37] this knot in your head?

[03:40] >> I still don't feel like I have my arms

[03:42] around it. I I don't feel like I've

[03:44] totally digested the fact that he's gone

[03:48] and the way in which he was taken. You

[03:50] know, you Charlie truly was such a

[03:52] larger than-l life figure. We say that

[03:54] term, but it's it was true about him. At

[03:57] at 6'5, he truly seemed larger than most

[04:00] of us. And and he was in his gifts and

[04:04] his tirelessness

[04:06] and just knowing exactly where the seam

[04:08] in every story was. And his his raw

[04:12] courage so many times. I mean, we like

[04:14] to think we're courageous in in our

[04:16] commentary. You'd look at Charlie and

[04:18] you'd think, "Now that's true courage."

[04:20] He He would just say it like it was. The

[04:23] things you'd be thinking in your head,

[04:24] but you might not want to say

[04:25] explicitly, he said. And he took a lot

[04:28] of slings and arrows for it and was

[04:31] demonized for being all the terrible

[04:34] things as opposed to people taking him

[04:37] on and saying, "Does he have a point?"

[04:40] >> Megan,

[04:42] how do we process this? How do we

[04:44] surface from this?

[04:49] You know, I think as with any loss, we

[04:54] we all have to go through the denial and

[04:55] the bargaining, you know, like

[04:57] >> Yeah.

[04:58] >> I'm still refreshing my ex account like

[05:00] hoping somehow there's a reversal, you

[05:03] know, like

[05:04] >> somehow it was all wrong. Somehow

[05:07] we got it all wrong. You know, sometimes

[05:09] the media gets it wrong. And it's it's

[05:11] absurd. We we know what the answer is,

[05:13] but that's a natural reaction when

[05:16] you've had a sudden loss in particular.

[05:18] And anger's completely appropriate now,

[05:22] too. It's completely appropriate. I, you

[05:25] know, we are going to catch this guy.

[05:27] You know, that FBI presser they just

[05:28] held was very encouraging.

[05:30] >> They've in two things happened this

[05:33] morning that are of note right now,

[05:34] Glenn. First, Steven Crowder, who is

[05:38] very solid on his law enforcement leak

[05:41] reporting. He's has he has a proven

[05:43] track history. He's the one who got the

[05:45] manifesto from the trans shooter in

[05:48] Nashville before anyone else. And that's

[05:50] not all. He's had other leaks is posting

[05:53] a document saying he received from an

[05:55] ATF source on the investigation. And

[05:59] that says that they retrieved the gun in

[06:02] the woods behind the campus wrapped in a

[06:05] towel and that there were three unspent

[06:08] cartridges in the gun that had

[06:12] transgender and anti-fascist

[06:15] ideology something written on them. Now

[06:18] that piece of that last piece of it was

[06:20] not confirmed by the FBI at the presser

[06:22] they just held but every other thing

[06:24] was. The Crowder report was confirmed in

[06:27] every detail, including naming the kind

[06:29] of gun. He had that right. He had the

[06:31] location right. He had the uh the trail

[06:33] and the tracking of the suspect, right?

[06:35] They did not volunteer the business

[06:38] about what was written on the

[06:39] cartridges, nor did anyone there ask

[06:42] because

[06:43] those reporters almost certainly don't

[06:45] follow Steven Crowder because they those

[06:47] reporters will probably tell you he's

[06:50] he's not to be trusted. Now, this is an

[06:52] early report and it could turn out to be

[06:54] wrong, but that's the update as far as

[06:58] we know it. And the FBI revealing that

[07:00] they have a picture of him, that they

[07:02] did, of course, track him on his way to

[07:05] the shooting spot with surveillance

[07:07] cameras, of course, on these college

[07:09] campuses. We would expect that in dorms

[07:10] or or class buildings.

[07:14] And they appear confident, at least to

[07:16] me, that they've got the guy. And if

[07:19] they've got the weapon, Glenn, while

[07:20] they they may or may not have

[07:21] fingerprints, but they almost certainly

[07:23] have DNA. I mean, they almost certainly

[07:26] have DNA, which I'm sure they're

[07:27] uploading right now into every database

[07:30] they can. You know, we saw this in

[07:32] Colberger. They're not supposed to use

[07:34] the public databases. Sorry, private

[07:36] like 23 and me or ancestry.com. Though

[07:39] in Coberger, they did and that is how

[07:41] they found Coberger.

[07:43] Um, sometimes they do. And even just a

[07:46] public database of DNA can lead you to

[07:48] at least a family member somewhere near

[07:50] a shooter or a suspect and then it's

[07:52] just a matter of charts and a few hours

[07:55] in getting to that person's relative.

[07:57] So, I believe they will find the shooter

[08:00] and then we'll know the ideology and

[08:01] then we'll have a a place to put some of

[08:04] the anger like an

[08:06] >> Mhm.

[08:07] >> an an explanation or something that will

[08:09] help us understand what deranged person

[08:12] and I don't mean that in the clinical

[08:13] sense did this yesterday. I just feel

[08:16] like I don't know where to go until I

[08:18] know who did this and why.

[08:23] It was about midnight last night uh when

[08:26] I talked to the president and uh he was

[08:32] very clear that we will find whoever is

[08:37] responsible for this and justice will be

[08:40] served. Um he was uh extraordinarily

[08:45] confident in that um which gave me an

[08:48] awful lot of hope. I don't know if you

[08:50] saw his speech last night that he gave

[08:52] from the Oval, but I I thought he hit

[08:54] exactly the very powerful hit exactly

[08:56] the right tone. Hit exactly the right

[08:59] tone.

[09:00] >> But I think the days of us fooling

[09:03] around and nibbling at the edges, I

[09:05] think those days are over.

[09:08] >> I agree. And one of the things Trump

[09:10] said last night that was so good was he

[09:14] used the word terrorism.

[09:17] >> That's exactly right. You know, that's

[09:20] that is how a lot of us are feeling. And

[09:23] I know you've had the same experience

[09:24] I've had in the past 24 hours, Glenn,

[09:27] where virtually everyone I know in the

[09:30] media business has reached out. I think

[09:33] there are a lot of folks who are in our

[09:35] lane in particular, in conservative

[09:37] media,

[09:38] who are very rattled by this because he

[09:41] was one of ours and the he was taken.

[09:46] you know, he he obviously we all have

[09:48] concerns about personal security now

[09:50] with the shooter at loose, you know, at

[09:52] large as well, but I just mean the like

[09:56] the betrayal and the need to rise up and

[09:58] protect ours and the people we value and

[10:02] love. You know, this is like I don't

[10:05] want to say a call to arms because I'm

[10:07] not encouraging violence, but I mean a

[10:09] unifying call for us to stand

[10:11] shoulderto-shoulder and stand up.

[10:13] Yeah, it is absolutely a wake-up call to

[10:18] anybody who thought, you know, oh, it's

[10:21] just going to, you know, pass us by.

[10:22] It's not. This is this is the call of

[10:24] our age and how we respond uh is going

[10:29] to determine the future of freedom in

[10:31] this country. Um but um I have great

[10:34] confidence that we will respond just as

[10:37] we did after 71 after 911. We responded

[10:41] with um conviction. Uh we responded with

[10:46] uh in an intelligence sort of way. We

[10:49] overreacted in some ways that I would

[10:52] like to avoid this time. But um we came

[10:56] together as a nation and did what had to

[10:59] be done uh for the preservation of our

[11:03] nation. Now, if we can have the

[11:05] moderation

[11:07] uh lesson learned this time, um perhaps

[11:10] we will be good. But I think the days of

[11:13] Antifa not feeling any ramifications for

[11:16] their work uh and others uh those days

[11:19] are over as of yesterday.

[11:24] Megan,

[11:25] >> you know,

[11:26] >> I just Yeah, go ahead.

[11:28] >> Go ahead, Glenn. Uh, I was I was just

[11:29] going to say one of the things we did

[11:31] after 9/11 was when the stock market

[11:34] opened 2 days later, we we all bought

[11:37] stock. We just

[11:38] >> Yes.

[11:38] >> It could have been a $5 stock, but

[11:41] everyone did it just to send a message

[11:42] that the financial center would stand.

[11:45] >> And I think we are going to see a

[11:48] reaction on college campuses when it

[11:50] comes to free speech by conservatives

[11:52] unlike anything we've ever seen before.

[11:55] In a similar vein,

[11:56] >> agree.

[11:58] >> I'm proud to stand shoulder-to-shoulder

[12:00] with you, Megan, and and be in the

[12:01] trenches with you all the time. You are

[12:03] um a light in a lot of darkness, and and

[12:06] I appreciate our years of friendship and

[12:08] everything that you've done for the

[12:09] country. Thank you.

[12:11] >> Likewise, my friend. Thanks for having

[12:13] me.