Joe Rogan Experience #2223 - Elon Musk

Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day uh but but if you want to sort of see like a vision of the future it's like basically the the like the top 20 and even the top 100 is like totally dominated by China it's yeah this is like China and a little bit of Korea and Taiwan so you in are you in the top 20 in the world or top 20 wow in DIA yeah yeah do you want to tell everybody your handle no no don't tell them don't tell them it's not worth it well they they actually listed me with my actual name in the in the list oh did they really oh interesting um but um yeah there's only there's only two Americans in the top 20 uh the the rest almost everyone is from Asia otherwise we were talking about something that I think is a really good because people always think that video games are frivolous but what what you were saying I think that's really important is it it's so difficult that it requires you to only think about that and it can like relieve stress it can take out the rest of the world cuz it's so hard yeah you can only think about that yeah I mean if finally if I play a video game on Extreme difficulty then um I have to concentrate fully on the game um and it's it's has a calming effect yeah uh it sort of chills down um and uh I mean you mentioned I think many people like if you play martial arts or you play pool like something that that forces you it's like I think any anything that forces you to concentrate fully um actually has a has a calming effect I find it just sort of like um kind of a mental a restoring effect mentally it's like it's good Jiu-Jitsu is like that archeries like that as well like when you're shooting a bow you have to is there's so many moving things and you're trying you have to think only of it and it cleans the mind it cleans the mind yeah exactly I was watch I was reading this study about surgeons where they found that surgeons who regularly play video games make less errors well it's I mean video games require manual dexterity so uh it makes sense completely makes sense actually if somebody was like epic at video games uh i' I'd say like their surgical skill is going to be very good because in order to be good at video games any kind of fast reaction video games look at this 32% fewer errors 24% faster and scored 26% better overall than their non-player colleagues oh I believe that for sure that's incredible you should be required in medical school to play video games I if somebody's like top a top ranked video game player and they say they're a surgeon I'd be like plus plus one plus two type of thing oh top ranked for sure but this isn't even top ranked this is just people who play well your your manual dexterity has to be extremely high so you're you're looking at things on the screen you've got you're reacting and you some you got like 10 milliseconds to react yes um and um and and so if somebody's got uh incredible reaction times manual dexterity they're obviously going to be a good surgeon imagine if there was a course that you could take that course would promote you would be 26% better yeah everyone would have to take that course sure why would you want a surgeon that's less prepared you would say hey Bob did you take this course you didn't take this course don't you understand this course makes you 26% better sure you would have to take it everyone should have to play video games if you want to be a surgeon well I think it' be it certainly would be a very good test to see if somebody can't play video games well like that means I me because you got to move both hands simultaneously you got to react something very fast then um on the screen so and and if if your keystrokes or your mouse clicks or whatever are wrong uh then you lose the game so if somebody's like has a good rank in video games I would say that they're manual de necessarily their manual dexterity must be very extremely good well it's so hard motor skills have to be excellent if you think about like Starcraft or any any game like Quake any game where a lot of people are playing to rise to the top you have to be exceptional period as a human being there's to be something exceptional about you yeah actually Quake way way back in the day I was one of the world's best Quake players I know we talked about this yeah um I loved Quake yeah yeah I my final semester in college I probably put more time into Quake than all my college classes when I was on news radio all of the writers were super nerds they were very very fun guys and they had a land set up at the studio where they all played Quake I had never played video games and I would go in with the writers just kind of hang out with them we'd get silly and then we would would all start playing video games and playing Quake against each other and I got addicted like hardcore I got a T1 line installed in my house I went hardcore yeah exactly you're checking how many milliseconds of latency you oh yeah I was I was fully addicted I was making my own computers I was going to fries hardware and buying motherboards and putting everything together and you know it was too much of a Time suck though I'm an obsessive person I can't get involved like I can't put golf no it's too golf is too slow for I mean I know a lot of people find golf good and I mean I guess if you think of it like it's I guess if you're saying you're going to walk outdoors with friends and occasionally hit a ball then and and you're just as an outdoor walk then that's cool um and does require concentration we hitting the ball but it it's it's it's a it's this too slow for me nothing compares to video games in terms of like the amount of feedback you get like the the the the sensory overload you get when you're looking at a large high resolution screen you have a fast computer you have headphones on that you're hearing sounds from here and sounds behind you and Rockets are flying by you and it's there's nothing like that yeah but I think golf still is like Jamie will tell you Jam's an addict he's a Golf Nut it's super addictive and it takes like eight hours a day it's yes uh once you get into golf I think I guess any sport it gets super predictive um so but but for me the the int the intensity of video games is uh hard to beat yes it's and the people dismiss it because they think it's just a waste of time but we're showing like real world benefits so people playing video games yeah if you want to be a drone operator it's the only game in town yeah really good at video games yeah um for sure so um in fact I can actually tell U like what my me mental acuity is uh if I just play if I play a very hard video game so if I'm trying to sort of get like a an extremely good clear time in Diablo or something like that um or or any you know a post person shootter whatever the case may be like if I I can tell that I'm tired uh or my brain's not working as well as it should it's it's like a it's like a mental calibration you can tell immediately like what is what what how good is your mental state right right um and uh you know so it's like like if if you're trying to play really well like I If you play late at night and you're tired you would just play badly right and you can say okay you you may think that your brain is working well but it isn't because you can you play the video game and you're like you suck so okay yeah you're putting it under stress yeah you're really stress testing it you stress test it and uh cuz like sometimes like oh I think I think I'm fine but then you play the game like okay I'm not I might I'm like 10% below what I should be that's how I feel about workouts for sure like that's how I knew I had Co or I knew everyone in my family had Co and I trying to not get covid and so I was working out I was like something's up like I felt fine nor but then during exercise I was like okay I can tell there's something wrong here so let's back off relax yeah yeah it's like people who don't stress test their mind they think they're operating on the same level all the time like sometimes I come in here and I can't form a sense and I don't know what it is it's like what is going on so it's just like like sleep's not maybe like what sleep wasn't that good or something like that yeah something like that or I'm too busy and it's just it's not the words aren't coming out like I know how to talk I talk professionally and I can't talk it's like I mean sleep's is is is massive I mean like huge yeah so uh if I can tell me Le did I get a good night sleep or not if if I just play like uh video game for like five minutes I'm like okay my sleep wasn't that good um because my my you know and then sometimes they your brain will recover through the day and it's like okay like an hour or two after waking up it's better uh CU your brain does kind of recover from Bad nights sleep a little bit during you know what it really helps creatine apparently does it yeah creatine is actually a neut Tropic believe it or not there's a lot of like benefits of creatine that are really weird are there any downsides no no it's natural part of food yeah yeah especially women for for women apparently especially postmenopausal women it's very beneficial okay and uh it there's but there's a lot of like cognitive benefits and one of the big ones that they found recently is performance when sleep deprived mental performance when sleep deprived increases pretty measurably when you supplement with creatine is creatin naturally occurring in like steak or yeah it's like naturally occurring in meat I think I think that's where it's coming from I think it's a primarily an animal-based thing yeah but like I I did switch to like steak and eggs for breakfast and I found that's like a PowerUp oh yeah yeah yeah well we're all overrun with carbohydrates yeah yeah totally and you like carbohydrates make this big crash the rise and the Crash the rise and the Crash you stay flat if you eat like a a primarily High high protein high fat diet yeah your body runs off ketosis essentially I mean so I just have like steak and eggs no no bread or or anything and it's great actually it's a PowerUp I'd say people dismiss this whole carnivore diet thing because in our heads there's a lot of propagandist that put this thing out there that animal agriculture is the number one contributor to global warming this rubish not true it's hot do matter not only is it hot but the real problem is Factory f regenerative farming is carbon neutral if doesn't sequester carbon the the the animals are not going to make any difference to global warming like none Zer zero nothing do you think that that's just propaganda because of people that have a vested interest in like plant-based meat products and things along those lines green energy I think it's part of it um you know that you're generally going to get people pushing to avoid me like some people just you know um yeah maybe they got to financial interest maybe they just just like vegetarians or vegans or whatever um ideological ideological reasons um but uh it's not going to make any difference uh to global warming or you know the CO2 concentration atmosphere really um if if people eat fewer uh steaks it doesn't matter it's relevant irrelevant I want to be super clear about that yeah will not matter you will not even be able to measure it okay that's how irrelevant it is isn't it funny that that's unmeasurable heretic speaking like that's crazy talk now nowadays it's like you have to say that we have to eat less meat that meat is bad totally eat as much as you want it's not going to make a difference sing it sing it to world yeah absolutely um and if somebody says it does make a difference I'm like how will you measure it and if you can't even measure it then it's yeah yeah literally I won't be able to measure it well there's so much out today first of all all directions thank you so much for buying Twitter thank you so much I'm not exaggerating when I think you changed the course of history I really do I really think you you made a fork in the road we were headed down a path of censorship and of control of narratives that is unprecedented forget about what they were able to do back when they had newspapers and the media under control the what they were doing with social media by suppressing information and when you had a combined government effort like with the what they were doing with the laptop story y you have 51 Former Intelligence agents saying that this is Russ disinformation take it off offline and Twitter complied yeah if if you didn't buy that we wouldn't have known that we had no idea exactly uh no it's I mean the the reason I border was because I'm pretty attuned um since I I was like the most interacted with a user on Twitter before the acquisition so before the acquisition I had more interactions that than like there's some accounts like Obama and whatever had higher follower accounts uh but uh I had the most number of interactions of of any account in the system so um I was very attuned to like if if they saw change if they change the system I can tell immediately like and I'm like I'm like something weird is going on here you know like so there's like I I just got increasingly uneasy um and obviously when when they deplatform to sitting president you know not deep de deep platform Trump uh that was that was just insane um you know um and and and the things he was posting like he was posting things that that like he was posting good things he was saying like hey we don't do not Riot don't don't do any destruction of property you know please stay calm like that's the kind of stuff was posting yeah and you're like uh what's wrong with that that's and and then then then some people say like oh that's like some sort of dog whistle he means the opposite I'm like okay so we'll give you Trump's account now you you post what you think he should post because he can post nothing he can ask people to calm down like what it was insane like it didn't make any sense well it's completely a l local when you say it's dog whistling to tell his followers to not be violent that's crazy crazy that's crazy don't you think they'll listen to him yeah isn't that the whole point they listened to him and created violence in the first place that's what you think that's what you're you're accusing him of right and then there's the fact that we know that there was agents in the crowd that were agent provocators that were encouraging people to do illegal we know that for a fact this is not that was always the big Alex Jones type 10 hat conspiracy theory cuz Alex proposed that back at the World Trade Organization protests I believe we in Seattle in the 90s and they sent in agent provocator started smashing things lighting things on fire now all a sudden a peaceful protest is no longer peaceful they move in the cops they shut everything down they had it set up where it was a no protest Zone where you couldn't even have a pin that had the WTO with a red line through it they wouldn't let you go in through to go to work so you couldn't prot you couldn't exercise your first amendment rights you couldn't even like have a peaceful protest a sticker on your car you couldn't have that it's crazy it is crazy so no I think we're we we're very much at a folk in the road in uh Destiny um and um you know so I I mean the reason I yeah did the Twitter acquisition was like it's like man if I don't do this I think we're screwed is the issue well you didn't do it no one else was going to do it because it wasn't a financial winner it was kind of a crazy move it's a crazy move I mean the the thing was way overpriced um and um you know like long term I think uh we can we can ultimately make it a win for investors but boy this is this is a this is a hard way to make a living well there's also a concerted effort to suppress it there's a concered effort with the advertisers well we we we had a and still have um a massive Advertiser boycott that was organized by a bunch of leftwing NGS like uh you know and and you always want and I should have I should have brought my uh I I have a hat make all well fiction again I've seen that hat yeah I I should have I was going toar I should have bought my make oil fiction had to um but but uh yeah I mean it's just totally totally nuts um so if you didn't do it no one would have and here's the hilarious narrative that I keep hearing from idiots uh elon's a bad business man Twitter is worth you know 400% less than when he bought it no it wasn't worth that in the first place it wasn't worth that in the first place it wasn't worth $44 billion you morons like wrong and also you're not taking into account The Advertiser boycott exact that's total yeah exactly so there are these organizations like you can tell there's like they're like like when they have an ellian name so like the like the C Center for countering digital hate is is a total scam organization you know CU they're like the ministry of truth type of thing in O um you know uh they like there censorship organization yeah um and they organiz and and they pushed uh the advertisers to boycott uh so we still have like some of the boycott is is is starting to lift um and I think if Trump wins we'll we'll see you know probably a lot most most of the boycott lift um but if if Kamala wins we'll see that boycott get stronger and and they'll they'll freaking shut down there's no way that that the sort of Kamala po regime would allow X to exist you really think that they'll be able to shut it down though is there Pathway to that uh yes what would they do um well I mean they can just they can sck the doj on you know and say like you know they've had this whole thing about like hate speech misinformation whatever except they're the ones pushing the misinformation but that doesn't stop them from filing massive you know lawsuits and using the doj I mean like the doj is you know been attacking SpaceX for example for not hiring Asylum Seekers even though it is legal for SpaceX to hire anyone who is not a permanent resident of the us so we we're downed if we do and downed if we don't there an examp just an example of what drj can do so it's illegal to hire someone who's not an American citizen um for what SpaceX uh is considered an an advanced weapons technology so it's it's covered by International traffic and arms regulations because we make rocket technology that can be used against the United States so like if North North Korea or Iran got SpaceX rocket technology they could use that to launch nukes at America America right that would be bad yeah that'd be really bad that would be really bad so so we're we're uh since we are in like the most extreme category of weapons technology at SpaceX um under us itar law it is uh illegal for us to hire anyone who's not a permanent resident because the presumption um is that if they're not a permanent resident they're going to return to their home country and take the rocket technology with them so that's and so so it's illegal for us to hire um anyone who's not a either has not a per they can they can be have a green card or be a citizen they just have to be a permanent resident of the United States um then there's another law that says if you if you discriminate against Asylum Seekers that's also you're also breaking the law so they they just so that the drj which the DJ drj can only do a small number of big lawsuits every year laun a giant lawsuit against SpaceX uh saying that SpaceX uh discriminated against Asylum Seekers and we're like but we're like but it's illegal for us to hire anyone who's not a permanent resident so we're in this like this is what I mean it's like or well the orell situation is getting insane like you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't so you're damned can you imagine history looking back f up man at when you watch the robot arms catch the rocket and you realize like this is like one of the greatest accomplishments in the history of Aerospace like it is one of the more wildest accomplishments when you watch that thing come and you see all the people cheering and it catches it perfectly like holy imagine how history is going to look back at the doj going after that company yeah how insane it is a big lawsuit with an army of lawyers like this was not like some minor thing but it doesn't even make any sense logically like how can it even get brought to court if it's illegal that's exactly so that's what I mean like like like basically if the government wants to go after you they'll just find a reason you it's like that famous quote um from barrier you know like so like Stalin's Like Chief torturer the head of St Stalin's secret police and he's like Chief torturer truly evil human being like this guy barrier uh he his one of his famous quotes was show me the man and I'll show you the crime right they just they just they they like they decide that you're the Target and then they figure out the crime afterwards that's the issue they decided SpaceX was a Target they just figured out the crime afterwards which is so crazy because that's exactly what they saying Trump is going to do if he gets into office they're doing all the things that they accuse Trump of doing yeah openly openly yeah I mean the the sheer number of hoaxes that the Democratic party is pushing over and over again they and and it's like look I understand like politicians are going to you know exaggerate they're going to misspeak and they'll tell occasional you know untruths whatever that's that's how it is in politics but when you have deliberate inerted repeated pushing of hoaxes you're like wait a second like come on man this is too this is too far and you're supposed to be the good guys you're supposed and you claim to be the good guys I'm like exactly you're supposed to be the progressives yes the dams are like oh we're the good guys we're the honest people no no hang on you can't claim to be the good guys you can't claim to be the honest people if you're deliberately post pushing hoaxes that have been debunked thoroughly yeah like even Snopes which is a liberal thing says it's bogus yeah like the fine people ho Obama just said that on stage just said that I was like what the flying he doesn't give a he doesn't give a they're just they're just FL goddamn lie flat out lie flat out lie how about the other one where kamala's campaign used what Trump was saying about protecting women and uh from illegal immigrants thank you you remember that that he what he was saying is the women like it or not I'm going to do it yeah when he was saying that they were trying to say that he was taking away women's right to choose whether women like it or not like that's not what he was saying absolutely he was literally talking about protecting them from dangerous people that are sneaking in through the Border yes exactly they'll take like like not even a full sentence like a half a sentence from Trump and then and then they'll push it on on every ad every you know every speaking event every and it gets repeated on the news this is what's crazy they'll talk about it on these new shows quote new shows yeah exactly I mean um I mean a recent one that that came up um which had a lot of people cuz you a lot of people reached out to me was like they're like oh Trump says he wants to execute Liz Cheney I'm like that is utter it's not what he said at all it's not what he said at all he all he said was like was like what he was saying is that look if if Liz Chene uh um actually had to fight at the front lines should think twice about going to war exactly that like it's easy to go it's easy to go to war it's easy to be a warmonger if you don't have to you know risk dying at the front lines like if other like basically it's up if if people are having like fancy dinners in Washington DC um while people are being slaughtered in trenches you know it's like you're not feeling the pain exactly you're not taking the risk it's someone else dying that's like that's that's cruel and lacking in empathy um and and all Trump was saying was that it's like Liz cheny would be much Liz cheny would be much less of a warmonger because she's a huge warmonger just like her dad um if uh she actually had had to go to the front lines and fight herself and meanwhile they're saying that he should he's saying she should be shot yes which is a total lie but I had like tons of people call me this weekend saying oh Trump says he's going to put Liz train in a firing squad I'm like that is an outrageous lie and the Legacy Media ran with that lie big time yeah it's crazy it's it's just wild to see and if it wasn't for Twitter or X now I don't think we would know about all this stuff I I think it would be very difficult for you I think YouTube throttled they did something weird they won't say what they did but they did something weird with the Trump interview that I did yeah where you couldn't find it it doesn't make sense like like made no sense I mean it's like the it was like the biggest interview on Earth yeah and you can't find it yeah not only that it wasn't trending it wasn't trending it wasn't trending it wasn't trending you're like like this just no excuse for that man no excuse there's no excuse it was getting a million views 1 Point what was it 1.4 an hour one point in time 1.5 an hour yeah and it wasn't trending yeah like and and it's like it's it's like your channel is a known channel it's not it's not like it was started yesterday it's like yeah it's like this is a high trust yours is a high trust channel it's like like you're not trying to sell scam crypto coins or something you know um so well thank God we put it on X as well because I think just with your account and my account alone it's like 70 million views yeah exactly yeah well it's like you can't hide things anymore because of you and if it wasn't for you I think they would have had total control of social media by now they would have th they they banned so many accounts during the pandemic so many dissenting scientists and doctors and Physicians they banned so many conspiracy theorists so many people that colored Outside the Lines they would have done that everywhere and it it probably would have P I think even at what's going on at Facebook they're they're being more lenient you know you hear Zuckerberg talking about taking a more libertarian stance that's entirely reaction to the way Twitter has kind of moved the watermark exactly so um as soon as as soon as any company steps out of line and is willing to actually have the truth debated on their platform it forces the other platforms to allow things to be more truthful to to not censor because their censorship becomes glaringly obvious yes um yes and you know the the the best thing I found for as a rebuttal like if somebody if there's a hoax is just go to the source material you know if if you think if somebody thinks uh you know oh you know Trump said that that we should put Liz Cheney in a firing squad I'm like let let me send you a link to X so you can watch his video that's the best way it's it's don't don't take my opinion for it don't take anyone's opinion for it go to the source material and Community notes yes and Community a community notes is the best it's awesome it's incredible because everybody gets checked yes including me yeah um and with Community notes the all the software is open source and all the data is open source so you can recreate any given note independently that's amazing yeah that's how it's total absolute transparency in every way um you know sometimes I get I get asked like oh y can you remove a note you know mostly by the left but sometimes by the right I'm like I'm like I don't even remove remove notes on my own account nothing and and and by the way everything is totally open so if I did that it would stick out like a sore thumb immediately like it's not going to be subtle is the best counter to misinformation yes absolutely like let everybody look at it and say okay here's what the actual facts say yes exactly the counter to misinformation is better information not just that but having it checked in real time by the community so you have millions of people that can go over it and debate whether or not this is true or that's true yes and and just and like I said the best way to understand the truth of things is don't take anyone's opinion for it look at the source material you know so it's like look at what someone actually said look at what someone actually did look at the real videos of the situation and and then you can actually you'll know what's real so as of today when you were literally on your way here you sent me this text saying that they're trying to lock you up in jail Pennsylvania tell me what the is happening well you know there's the classic sort of Soros da situation um so we we're making a lot of progress in Pennsylvania so uh you know I've been I've given a whole bunch of talks in throughout the the state because psylvia is the Lynch pen in this election you know whoever wins Pennsylvania wins the election so um so I've been giving to I spent three years in Pennsylvania I went to college in in Philadelphia so um so it's not like I'm not a total I'm not a total stranger to the state you know I spent three years there um and um and and we you know we we we we've organized this uh petition in support of the Constitution um which I think is a good thing um and and specifically asking people to uh and and and we wanted this to be like um registered voters in swing States like basically we want to send a message to the politicians to say that the people care about the Constitution because there have been all these attacks on the Constitution they've been especially on the Democrat side they've been repeatedly saying that that the that the first amendment is an obstacle because and they're claiming oh the first amendment is is is enabling dis disinformation misinformation and I'm like yo there's a reason for the first Amendment like freedom of speech the reason they the founders of the country put you know the freedom of speech there is because they came from countries where if you spoke your mind you would get shot or imprisoned that's why the First Amendment exists and the Second Amendment is there to stop the tney of government the Second Amendment the right to bear arms is there to protect freedom of speech um you know um you know and I've had these debates especially with people in LA because they're they're like want to take everyone's guns away and I'm like yo can you guarantee me that the government that we will never have a tyrannical government in the in the United States can you can you make that guarantee they're like well nobody can make that guarantee I'm like then we need to keep our guns because that's the that's what's going to stop it that sounds crazy for people to hear because they think about gun violence and gun problems and gun this and gun that but that's the reality of the world that we live in is that tyranny is possible and it exists other places and it's slowly existing it's slowly rearing its head in the UK you're you're seeing I I think the the number of people that have been arrested for just social media uh posts is bananas it's in the thousands yes several thousand people have been have been given prison sentences sentences in the UK for social media posts that where there was no explicit link to actual violence but they just said it encouraged violence like well did anyone actually do anything as a result of that media post well no but they they just and and then they have a prison overcrowding situation in the UK so they quite literally releasing convicted pedophiles and putting people in jail for Facebook posts that's an actual thing happening in Britain that is so wild like it's you're like so wild the you know is going on and what's insane to me fiction again yeah you know but it's all being encouraged by the left kangi Brown Jackson John KY johnry was one of the people who said that he's on camera re like a few weeks ago saying that the first amendment is a pro is an obstacle to fighting misinformation yeah that's crazy that's such a crazy thing to say when you have a solution in community notes you have a solution in something like that that could clear everything up any confusion within a day or two and and even without a community note you can reply to a post and with with evidence that that that shows that the post is wrong you don't even need Community notes I mean Community notes is helpful because it sticks to the original note yes but in the replies you can say here's why you're wrong here are the reasons and here's the evidence the argument is that people are too unsophisticated that they're not going to research these things they're going to be a victim of misinformation so they're going to read something it's incorrect they're going to run with it people are going to die people are going to we're going to ruin the world because people believed in misinformation it's a stupid argument it's a stupid argument because it's an argument that they're too dumb to know what's right or wrong you if you know cuz you're saying it's misinformation why do you think that you're smarter than everybody who reads that exactly and obviously anyone on the X system uh knows that things are posted and then there are replies and there are bules and it's immediately corrected but where are the corrections for the Legacy Media right you know when when if um you know some broadcast media they they they they they said St say false things all the time but it's a one-way Street there's no rebuttal there's no counter right you know there who's apologized for being incorrect about what did Rachel mat ever apologize for telling everybody that if you get the covid vaccine you're never going to get Co it won't the virus stops with you never no one ever it's just it was not true at the time there was no evidence to support it at the time it's pure propaganda and she said it the Russia gate hoax the for three years they said that he was Putin's toy and that Putin had him compromised the steel dossier steel dosier was completely fabricated by a lawyer poins koi um uh who was paid by the Clinton campaign literally crazy and still people think the Russia hoax is real and there's no repercussions no one had to apologize Hillary could never came out and apologize for that and people still listen to her the whole thing is crazy and it's all coming from the left which growing up as a a person who was in the left my whole life it doesn't make any sense same same I mean I I I I even I I I was on the left until like three years ago like I I mean you know it's not the left anymore it's not the left anymore it's just like I think we obviously want I mean I I I believe like we want freedom like like we want we want to maximize person personal Liberty uh I think we want we want to be kind to people you know we want to have empathy uh and um but but it's very important to have personal freedom and a merit based society on the left is is wants to oppress your freedoms especially freedom speech um and they want to they want to have a non-m marit based society you know with race based and sex based preferences and it's like well wait a second no we just want people to succeed based on their skills and their hard work and if they don't want people to express themselves about particular issues then they're not doing the will of the people and if they're trying to suppress people's ability to communicate they're only doing that because they want to do things that people don't want them to do and they want to silence opposition that's all it is and the fact that people can't see that they want to call Trump a fascist the whole thing is through the Looking Glass it's just I mean it's like one hoax after another that that they're perpetrating against Trump I me like they try to call the the rally at Madison Square Gardens Like A Nazi rally I'm like yo there was like literally an Israeli flag in the audience um I think like a quarter of the speakers were Jewish like there was like there were people of every race color creed religion at that at that rally like tell me what about that is Nazi no and yet it was portrayed as a Nazi rally MSNBC they they literally showed video of the Nazi Rally from 1930s and then compared it to the Trump rally now ignoring the fact that Jimmy Carter spoke there there have been dozens of political rallies at medicine Square Gardens dozens on the on the Democrat side like people and people on X like and here's exactly here's Jimmy Carter and here's Bill Clinton and here's wait a second actually it looks like uh every presidential candidate has done a uh on the Democrat side has done a rally at mass square gardens are they Nazis too but what they're doing is they're praying on lwi information voters who aren't engaged actively on social media who don't have the time to look through everything exactly yeah like people are living if people are just on looking at Legacy mainstream media then they have a totally different worldview than if they're on X uh and and seeing the the actual flow of argument yes and the actual evidence well what was the push back like what happened when you guys released the Twitter files cuz I think the Twitter files is probably one of the most important things in this age of information for understanding the influence that government has on social media and and on discourse because when when we found out that that was the case that the government was actually asking Twitter to remove posts that were factual did they did the same thing to Facebook they had them throttle pieces of one of Tucker Carlson's show they they suppress the views by 50% yeah of factual information yeah no there was there was massive government interference in Twitter um but but like Twitter welcomed it that's important to old Twitter welcomed it uh I mean TW old Twitter was controlled by by far-left activists yeah so uh and and uh they they welcomed the Govern interference the Govern they got paid by the government for it that's crazy they got paid for their time correct yeah they got paid millions of dollars for for suppressing information so it's like Bill and a bunch of it was like flat out illegal like the FBI had this like this this this sort of magic portal into the Twitter system uh and and but all of the communication in that sort in this portal was autod deleted after two weeks which breaks Federal Foy laws so we don't even know what was said because it was all deleted after two weeks that's insane yeah that's so crazy it's so crazy that people thought that was okay it's not super not okay no it's super not okay it's unconstitutional and no one would want that no one would want the government to have that kind of access exactly and what was the blowback like when all that stuff got released like you had to anticipate that there was going to be problems when you when you release that like what was what happened well we got a lot of we we did lose a lot of advertising dollars um and um which is crazy because it's essentially like one of the most important forms of Journalism is exposing government corruption yes I mean this is the weird weird thing it's like the left used to be uh big big on exposing government corruption but now but once they control the government they no longer want to EXP the government corruption right they want to pretend that the leftwing government's incapable of corruption cuz we're on the good side I I think it maybe just like you know whoever's in power kind of doesn't want the you know the other side hurt um because as you pointed out like the left historically up until I don't know maybe even 10 years ago or something like that um was the Free Speech party and now it's the anti-free speech party and they just they use they use words like like oh we have to be against hate speech and misinformation disinformation but these are propaganda words you know it's like uh well who's defining hate speech who's defining misinformation the government do you really trust the government to make that definition um the whole point of the of the first amendment is like you do not trust the government well especially when they're wrong and then there's no repercussions yeah like with the whole Lab leak theory if you get you would get kicked off of YouTube if you even presented this argument that hey maybe that Corona virus lab where they're doing work on the exact same virus that got released yep hey maybe that's where it came from since that's where the virus started what do you think guys yeah they kick you right off of YouTube yeah um yes exactly it's like do you think maybe the it could have come from the place called the novel Corona virus Research Institute that John Stewart bit that he did on coar was amazing what does it say on the door again uh can I see you a business card and to see coar like resisting it with every fiber of his what's going to happen to us he was totally blocking the bit to the point where John Stewart got off his chair and started walking around to try to take control yeah good on John and then the left tried to cancel John Stewart of course meanwhile he was right he right and no apologies no apologies yeah and you know the whole fouchy thing like any criticism of fouchy it's like an freaking demon if you ask me if you read rfk's book if the real Anthony fouchy if that's correct if the facts are in there that's true it's all referenced you could find the sources and on top of it he's never been sued for that book which doesn't make any sense if he just made a bunch of Lies up he would get sued yes so the guy's a monster I think so yeah I think so too yeah yeah yeah yeah I think like just looking at the lies that he told the way he tried to Define gain of function research to ran Paul but he I think a lot maybe a lot of people out there don't realize Fouch he funded the the the the bioweapons research that was going on in in Wuhan and he he Bank shotted off like he can't send the money directly to China he just bankshot it off Eco Health right this just like fake nonprofit in the US and they sent it to Wuhan and Obama put the skids on that he stopped that in 2014 yes I mean so you know um to to give Obama throw Obama give Obama some credit he actually was like looking at this and say hey this is crazy and uh we need and he so he he actually did uh stop the like like the so-called G gain of function again a propaganda word uh because what is the function they're talking about death right right so if if if you actually use the right word this is gain of function is death maximization right then you're like oh oh hey guys should refund uh uh bioweapon Research into death maximization cuz that's what gain of function means yeah it means the function making a disease so that people can get it give it to people and by the way what's that function again oh the function is death okay so just call it a death maximizing virus if you're doing research on that and the idea behind this research is so that we can cure these things how come you don't have a cure start with a start with a cure cure first disease second it doesn't make any sense like you guys had no strategy for dealing with it if it got out and so you have to like make up this this new vaccine in like record time operation warp speed released to the people with very little testing it's crazy it was crazy the whole thing's crazy and everybody just went along with it Looney Tunes Next Level well it's the scop was fascinating to watch people step in line that's like one of the biggest SS of all time of all time of all time and everybody got in line and when you take it back to when pharmaceutical drug companies were able to advertise on media in the 1990s that Chang one of two countries the whole that allows this and because of that because we don't have socialized medicine it's a complete profit scam and they went hard claiming all sorts of things that were never researched all sorts of things that not supported by data like the fact that it would stop transmission the fact that it would stop infection the fact that it was safe for pregnant women the fact that it was safe for children all of its yes and they pushed it on the whole world and if you didn't say that at a cocktail party you were a pariah yes and you were an antivaxer it was totally psycho it was like being a Holocaust in hour you get kicked out of polite Society exactly bananas and I should say like I'm actually generally Pro vaccine overall you know I think we should look at these things that but that but I believe in the scientific method so so you have a blanket except anything you have a blanket except that any any given medication or any given treatment is is is 100% good you should always be it with some skepticism especially when you're getting the data from pharmaceutical drug companies that have like a long history of criminal got a Ved interest conduct yes they've got a vested interest in the research it's sort of like asking tobacco companies about you know whether smoking it's dangerous you know exactly the same thing like God according to our scientists everything's fine yeah they lied in court forever the same thing they do with oxycoton when they said that it wasn't addictive like they have a long history of being full of if it makes them money and that's what they do that's their business they've literally lost multi-billion dollar lawsuits in this massive massive they're in the you have amazing scientists right you have these clinical researchers these people that developed these incredible drugs and they this is their job their job is to figure out some new way to cure something some new way to stop things and then you have the money people sure and the problem is when you have this one thing that you would assume they're only doing it to help people and then they have this other faction that they're all just numbers people and all they give a about is maximizing profits and making sure they literally have a an obligation to their shareholders they have to make the most amount of money possible and so they just want to push it on everybody regard like the vioc Scandal there's internal emails showing they knew there was going to be cardiovascular events people were going to get strokes and they're like I think we're still going to do well and they did they made like 12 billion dollars they got fined seven and 50 to 60,000 people died holy yeah one of them was a friend of mine got a stroke and died yeah no he didn't die he lived but he was a really healthy guy aned the same after yeah NE problems and he took Vio and all a sudden he was slurring his words and he couldn't concentrate and people like I think you're having a stroke and they took him to the hospital and then then you have this giant class action lawsuit then Vio gets pulled from the market and they get sued and the whole thing's crazy but there's a long history of this I think what did what is the number like onethird of the drugs that the FDA approves gets pulled it's bananas that is crazy that's crazy you're shitty at onethird of the things that you say are okay but yet you're trying to stop MDMA therapy for veterans yeah they should let MDMA through honestly that think that actually help a lot of people it would help a lot of people help a lot of people there's a lot of different therapies specifically psilocybin iag the fact you have to go to Mexico to get ibaan therapy for veterans so many guys I've talked to have gone over there and it's like completely giving them a a clean slate refresh their mind and totally new perspective on life alleviated depression cured addictions illegal yeah illegal oxycotton go get it yeah um and I know some people who like their their life was ruined by oxyon you know oh yeah because uh I mean it it really depends on on you know somebody in individual biochemistry um like to me like like um opioids are not addictive to me like I you know I've had them when I've had operations or something and uh they they they're they barely affect the my pain level and they make me like itchy and uncomfortable they make me stupid exactly but but I'm like so so like like I could never get addicted to alcohol or or opioids it's just impossible like because my biochemistry just does not have like but I love tasty food feel like you know you know if if if there's I'm addicted to tasty food sure um but like there can be like I have a whole of of alcohol it's there for decoration I never done sh basically I feel the same way I could easily quit alcohol I mean I'll go weeks without having a drink and doesn't bother me at all but I know some people they have one drink and they're Off to the Races and that's the difference in the the biochemical differences that we all have yeah I mean I think that's the case with a lot of addictions I'm not addicted to gambling but I get it I see it I've seen it in people but I'm I'm I have this aversion to things that I know are going to ruin my life like i' I see it that's why I've never tried cocaine I just saw too many people it looks too fun like I don't want to get involved yeah I mean I mean I think generally for any given uh drug legal or illegal you could the question is can you complete the following sentence blank made me a better [Laughter] person like I've never heard anyone say meth made them a better person or cocaine made them a better person no ever um made a lot of soldiers better I think that's yeah I mean if you're doing if you're like if your soldiers need to for three days in a row yeah it it's really is effective at that you know um yeah people give like France a hard time about you know capitulating in World War II but but you know what's what's worse than the Nazis Nazis on meth me up Nazis they they're not stopping Norman they Six Bullets they're like they're they're still coming that book over there blitzed is all about the use of methamphetamines and the different drugs that they gave their soldiers the guys the front of the line they gave the most meth yes they have different dosages yeah I mean you just basically think you're un vulnerable on meth and uh so so it's one thing like I said it's one thing be you know have have like the Nazis coming after you but Nazis on meth you're like holy those are not stopping man for three days they're not stopping it's so crazy yeah that's not a statement meth may be a better person that you hear very often I've never heard that before no you hear a lot of like siloc iban Advocates you hear a lot of people that talk about psychedelics I exactly I've actually heard many people say that uh LSD or you know mushrooms or uh MDMA made them a better person many people yeah so that's why I'm like I think a rule for the FDA should be like hey look um if you can complete the sentence legal or legal that um blank made you a better person actually yeah uh then then you got a good drug and if you you can't you got a bad drug also if there's drugs that are available right now that can absolutely ruin people's lives this the the rationalization for stopping other drugs that might ruin people's lives but also can help a lot of people's lives it doesn't make any sense right you're you're you're B it's basically the same thing as censorship you're taking away people's ability to discern what's true and not true and you're taking away people's ability to discern what's good for you and not good for you and the way to find that out is to have as much information as possible so to do research and actually to have unbiased actual objective observers who are looking at all this stuff that give you real data yes and the opposite of that or the count of that is like if you don't do that you're empowering cartels yes that's the whole reason why they have all that money it's because it's illegal to sell these drugs in America the demand is never going away so instead of like limiting the amount of drugs now you've got toxic drugs CU Fentanyl and all this other has been because they're not pure so you're just killing people you're not saving anybody by protecting them from themselves true but it's a tricky situation because what do you do like if you just like say okay now everyone can sell all these people that have been selling boner pills now you can sell meth like holy you get you get you get the the the the the double combo the VRA it's the VRA andth right Jesus Christ oh my god oh my god well I mean how many people already doing that right now with there's a lot of people out there that are essentially on M especially people that abuse adol they're basically amphetamin up all day long yeah adol is low-grade infomine yeah um so um the and like I actually seen people like become much worse people if they take too much ader all like much worse you know it's it's like an anger amplifier so there um now now I'm not saying like adol is something like where there's there are pluses and minuses it's not a clearcut issue um it does help some people a great deal um and uh but but in in higher doses man that that stuff I've seen people turn into just raging monsters on on high doses about rle just they're they're just angry like extremely angry all the time yeah they're messed up yeah that's what happens if you take myth it's crazy you turn it like myth turns you into a freaking rage demon and so and so many prescriptions I'm like Jesus we we googled it like one year there was like 39 million prescriptions for adal in this country oh yeah yeah like once in a while there's like an adal shortage and like there's like watch Widespread Panic you know and then what do people do and then it's the same thing as like when they tried to like limit the amount of oxyc content will people go to Street heroin and if you're addicted to Aderall and your dealer the guy who sells you weed is like hey man I can get you like like lowgrade meth like the stuff the Nazis took well that they had IG grade myth actually they had pharmaceutical grade it was they had epic epic myth it was like made by the like pharmaceutical grade myth is going to be if like this this I mean I mean you just look at the freaking U Online Wikipedia page but there's like many different versions of math like not all the same um and and they have different effects um so but but like pharmaceutical grade pure meth you are going to be oh my God super productive super productive for a certain period of time and and you're not going to sleep for a while and uh and and then you you will you will have some anger management issues um so like uh they actually the the nazzi they did actually um uh go roll back how much meth they were using because they had they had quite a few incidents of of the of the soldiers killing their officers because they were on too much meth Jesus Christ they would yeah so they would shoot that to many um officer got fragged by the by the you know the their platoon that was on too much meth because they that happened quite a few times like you just when someone's on a lot of meth they're they're they're they're very they can get very angry did you ever pay attention to when John McAfee was uh cooking meth in a lab in his backyard I me MC is quite a character he was a character character we had him on the podcast when he was on the run so he called in from an undisclosed location when he was running from where was he Costa Rica is that where he was B bise right so when he was running from the authorities he called in we had him on the podcast on the run and uh I was asking him about these posts like CU there was an online account that was linked to him where he had this very detailed laboratory like super sophisticated making the best math like a super genius cooking math I I mean I think he like had like he had his lab like he was making like a wide range of drugs uh and there was like I I talked to uh actually like a a reporter um who who went down and like uh interviewed him in bise um and and por said man that's one of the scariest things he's like he he was he was quite terrified so like one of the things like maffy he had I guess this trick where he would he would play a Russian roulette with himself uh so so he'd put a bullet in in the revolver and they spin the spin the chamber and clearly he had like some like trick to you know know it was not there's some you know way that he knows it's not the right bullet but but I do Wonder like if if mcff is high and he does that he's not always going to get the trick right you know do you sure he had a trick or maybe so yeah yeah so so so according to this reporter um when he went to visit maffy in bise uh maffy took out the revolver put a put a a bullet in the revolver spun the chamber and then pointed at his head and went click and the report is like saying please don't do this like this is insane click click click and then pointed to the gun at the ground and ni went click bang and shot shot a bullet in the ground Jesus that's a hell of a potty trick jeez it's the next level party that's the guy who seen the deer hunter too many times he yes remember that scene when they were forcing yes yeah woo that's a heavy scene that was a heavy scene dairo and Christopher Walkin that's one of the greatest scenes in any movie ever I remember watching that scene just like clawing at my pants like Maka was a wild boy wild and you created brilliant anti virus software yeah yeah he may have made some of the viruses too you think so well didn't he like give laptops to a bunch of government organizations with viruses on yeah so that he could like pay ATT to what they were doing yeah I I wouldn't be surprised if somebody whacked that guy I don't know what happened to him but I he would be a guy that would be like this guy is a little bit too loose I probably had sensitive information I don't know um for sure he did u i mean I found him to be an interesting guy I mean like I'm generally like feel like like if somebody's not harming someone else they should be okay now now there is some suggestion that maffy like killed his neighbor in bise um yeah so probably did maybe the neighbor was a douchebag I think he probably did seems like he probably did seem like the neighbor killed his dog yes right and then it seems like he killed the neighbor yeah allegedly yeah I mean it seems it seems likely it's not a zero possibility it's not definitely not zero it's seem more than not he's a methed up wild man playing Russian roulette hey maybe you kill your neighbor yes I mean if somebody killed your dog you'd be really inclined to kill them too yeah somebody killed your squirrel John Wick yeah the squirrel thing is bananas yeah that squirrel thing squirr thing I so here's the thing about the the the whole squirrel thing is is that um how can it be that we live in America uh supposedly land of the free and the you know the government can barge into your home with guns uh so if you resist you're going to get shot um and then take your your pets and execute them um and if they can do that to your pets what do you think they can do to you I know that's not an exaggeration absolutely it sounds like you're you're oh that's so crazy how can you make that connection but it's that's why would you kill that cute little squirrel that was obviously a pet and trained from the time it was a baby if you see the interaction that guy has with that squirrel it was wonderful it was really cute yes absolutely the there's it was just obviously it was a blood pet pet squirrel um and raccoon too um and doing no har um and the the government comes in barges into the guy's house takes his pets and kills them and you know I I think this should this should really get people out there mobilized frankly because um you know you think you see like the John Wick movie where John Wick's like you know he he he wants to he just wants peace like you know in in the Dr movie he just wants he's like listen I want to retire and they offer him like tons of money like because they want him to be an assassin to keep being an assassin like they they like they they like offer him tons of money they threaten him he's like listen I'm not going to be I'm I'm I'm out you know and they kill his dog that was a bad idea that was a really they killed a cute little puppy and the puppy was his ex-wife's gift to him when she died of cancer yeah great movie great movie the best revenge movie of all time cuz it's so ridiculous he kills everybody yeah kills everyone um and you're rooting for him yeah they shouldn't have killed his dog yeah they up and they shouldn't have killed that squirrel they shouldn't have killed that that squirrel I mean like how many how many cases have we not heard about you know a look at that little guy that squirrel clearly had a love relationship with that guy he would hop all over him and climb on him I mean it was that was his pet that that squirrel thought of that man as his protector as his His companion there was nothing wrong with that and in Texas it's totally legal you could have a zebra out here you can have whatever you want and that's the argument for freedom and you know the flip side is you get a bunch of people tigers in their backyard which is not great it's like this was a squirrel it's not it's not an anaconda or right or or or you know you know crocodile or something that's or a chimpanzee did you see chimp crazy oh man chimp chimp chimps will eat your face okay they will you up they will you and they don't even the thing is they don't even kill you they just you chimps don't even kill people yeah which is really weird they just bite your hands off and pite your dick off and tear your face apart yes they want to leave you they could kill you easily if a chimp want to just punch you in the head until you're dead it wouldn't take long but they don't kill you they just rip you apart yeah and you can have a chimp and so well he used to be able to have a chimp in a lot of states and then chimp crazy kind of exposed a lot of that and Peta did a great job of stopping people from keeping chimps as pets because once they hit like five you can't control them anymore what's OB totally understandable if somebody's got um you know a creature that is dangerous to others but like obviously a a squirrel and a raccoon are not well squirrels are everywhere that's what's so crazy like why can't you have it in the house what kind of rules are we dealing with you have rats everywhere yeah um I mean they're they're they're allowing criminals to go free and and like violent criminals to go free but they're like spending your tax dollars to come in and execute your pets what the hell is going on exactly and and it's like um but it's overreach it's it's govern overreach and and this just keeps getting worse every year and that's why that's why we've got to we got to fight back against this um and um you know it's people say like well it's just a squirrel well was it was you know in John Wick's case it was just a dog right yeah you know but well remember the Russian guy said it's a dog it's just a dog just a squirrel yeah well it's the the funniest thing is when so it just I just don't understand how anybody could justify it I don't understand how any I it seems to me that in a logical world all that guy would have to do is say want to you see me with this squirrel this squirrel's a pet yeah like look he he hops on me he eats he sleeps I can keep a Geral but I can't keep a squirrel I can have a guinea pig I can't have a squirrel I can have a chinchilla my daughter has a chinchilla it's adorable adorable little thing climbs all over can't have a squirrel even if they if they did take a squirrel away couldn't they've released it into the woods or something well it's a bit the idea is you have to euthanize it because it's used to being fed it doesn't know how to forage it won't be able to like find a home squirrels are brutal squirrels are absolutely brutal to each other they throw each other out of trees which is one of the reasons why squirrels like can fall from like 30 feet and just kind of bounce off the ground and live it's like it's a a natural adaptation because squirrels during mating they bite each other they there used to be like a rumor there was a a myth that squirrels bite each other's nuts off and okay that that seems to be a myth but it came out of the fact that squirrels are so ruthless during mating so like one female is just running away I have squirrels in my backyard I watch it all the time one female apparently goes into estris and all the male squirrels fight to get to her so they're running up trees and chasing each other around trees literally throwing each other off trees to try to like have so if this poor little peanut the squirrel who's used to living with a guy in an apartment like gets out there in the the wild world well fair enough at least they have a chance yeah at least he has a chance but chance how about just leave him with the guy yeah leave him with the guy for sure what the is wrong with you why are you killing that squirrel it doesn't make any sense yeah and then to add insult to injury there were a bunch of people