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[00:00] Nice to meet you, Charlie. I'm I'm a big
[00:02] fan. I think you're a very beautiful
[00:04] man. I admire you physically, but uh no
[00:06] no no homo. No homo. No homo.
[00:10] I I did have a question. Something I
[00:12] don't find very interesting about you.
[00:14] Something I find kind of repulsive is
[00:16] that I believe you said that the Civil
[00:18] Rights Act was bad and that we shouldn't
[00:20] have that.
[00:22] Okay. Well, thank you. I appreciate
[00:24] that. I don't like you as much as
[00:26] Charlie, though. First of all, what's
[00:27] your name? Oh. Oh. Uh sorry. Okay. I I
[00:29] don't want to be like filmed and stuff.
[00:31] I'm anonymous. Number one, anonymous
[00:33] guy. Okay. Well, hello. Nice to meet
[00:36] you, anonymous guy. Thank you. Thank
[00:38] you. Nice to meet you, too. Yeah. Um I I
[00:39] believe in part of the essence of the
[00:41] Civil Rights Act went to way too far,
[00:43] way too wide. Oh, how'd it go too far?
[00:45] Well, for example, it created an entire
[00:46] civil rights leviathan that gave us
[00:48] affirmative action. Civil rights
[00:49] leviathan? What do you mean? Yeah. So,
[00:50] if you can let me finish three words in.
[00:53] It allowed the Department of Justice to
[00:55] go after people that have different skin
[00:57] color, aka white people, and prevent
[00:59] them from getting jobs in college
[01:00] admissions. You have a job. I'm sorry.
[01:02] You have a job. No, you're right. I do.
[01:05] Right. But just until Trump came around,
[01:07] until the Supreme Court decision, thanks
[01:09] to the Civil Rights Act, if you have
[01:12] white skin color, it's much harder to
[01:13] get into a college than if someone has
[01:14] black skin color. Much harder. You have
[01:16] to have higher test scores. It's a much
[01:18] harder pool largely thanks to the pre
[01:19] the precedent set by the Civil Rights
[01:21] Act. Not to mention all the trans stuff
[01:23] and they use the Civil Rights Act to
[01:24] justify it. Okay. I I I think I see
[01:26] where you're coming from. So you think
[01:27] that it's harder for uh white people
[01:29] because of black people they have they
[01:30] could have lower tech scores and get
[01:32] them because that's not what I think.
[01:33] It's the fact that's what you're saying.
[01:35] Okay. All right. Well Well, I guess what
[01:36] I would say to I think perhaps you're
[01:39] familiar with the term equity, right?
[01:40] Where different people have different uh
[01:42] circumstances.
[01:44] I reject Okay. Whether you reject it or
[01:47] not, I I think it's a a precient uh
[01:50] concept in in this argument because uh
[01:52] what you have to understand is that when
[01:54] you're for example, you're born in like
[01:55] a black neighbor, you're born in like
[01:56] Oblak or something like a very very like
[02:00] you don't know what Oblak is. Oh well,
[02:02] if you're if you're if you're born
[02:03] there, if you're born in a very poor
[02:05] area like that with like very low
[02:06] economic activity, very very poor
[02:08] schools are very low ratings where
[02:09] average test scores much lower. When
[02:11] you're in that environment, you have the
[02:12] whole system up against you, right? So
[02:15] uh it so wouldn't you say in that kind
[02:17] of circumstance when you're facing the
[02:18] whole I guess leviathan of systemic
[02:20] racism would you say that's sorry let me
[02:23] just when you say it's fair to for
[02:25] example lower the standard because
[02:27] knowing that their circumstances were
[02:29] like that perhaps based on what they had
[02:32] was presented to them they had the
[02:33] correct amount of merit to get into a
[02:35] school. Okay. So are you a student here?
[02:37] I'm guessing you are. Oh yeah. Yeah. I'm
[02:38] a student here. Are you a pretty good
[02:39] student? Oh yeah. I would say I'm a good
[02:40] student. I have a pretty high GPA. Okay.
[02:42] Can you give your GPA to her because
[02:44] she's a woman of color, please? Oh, you
[02:45] want me to give you a I mean, I can.
[02:47] Would you be willing to do that? I want
[02:49] Sure. Yeah, sure. You'd be go you cool
[02:50] with that? Yeah, I'm fine. Wait, give
[02:52] Wait, you mean I want you tell her or
[02:54] like give it to her by force? We're
[02:55] swapping. Let me tell what I'm going to
[02:56] do by force. White man. I'm going to
[02:59] take your GPA. I'm going to give it to a
[03:01] woman of color. You're cool with that?
[03:03] Uh, I mean, yeah, I can just work back
[03:04] up. Like, I No, there's no working back
[03:07] up. I can pull myself up by my boost.
[03:09] No, there's no working back up. What do
[03:10] you mean you can't work back up? That's
[03:11] the whole point of conservatism, isn't
[03:13] it? I'm I'm going to keep on taking it
[03:14] from you cuz that's equity. And you're
[03:15] cool with that. What? But that's not
[03:17] This is equity in practice. Equity isn't
[03:19] taken. Equity is giving applying the
[03:20] equal standard. If you give, how do you
[03:22] get? You must take and then you give.
[03:23] Wait, what do you mean? That which is
[03:25] given must first be taken. Well, what's
[03:27] being taken? Well, in this case, grades
[03:30] from you to grades to her. That's No
[03:31] one's taking my grades, though. That's
[03:33] not what That's not what affirm. No one
[03:35] takes your grades. Hold on a second. If
[03:36] you only have so many you only have so
[03:38] many positions at University of South
[03:40] Florida to come in, right? There's
[03:41] there's a there's a there's a set
[03:43] number. Let's say it's 20,000 people,
[03:45] okay? And we're going to say we're going
[03:47] to lower the test standards so that
[03:49] somebody that's a woman of color can
[03:51] come in and therefore it's harder for
[03:52] you. So it's a higher bar for you, lower
[03:55] bar for them. Definitionally, it's a
[03:56] redistribution of test scores for
[03:58] somebody else. Just by the definition
[04:00] and you're okay with that? Uh well I
[04:02] guess I I guess I would ask then if we
[04:04] were to do what you're doing I guess
[04:05] what that's what's happening under Trump
[04:06] right? Well no it's actually been
[04:08] happening the last 40 years. Okay
[04:09] actually yeah whatever. Okay so wouldn't
[04:11] you say that if you do that then well
[04:13] black people aren't going to get into
[04:14] school and then they won't be able to
[04:15] uplift themselves. They won't be to have
[04:16] prosperous families. They won't be able
[04:17] to you know equalize the economic status
[04:20] because you need to give them a little
[04:21] jump start. You know you have a car
[04:23] right? How is that how is that? Well no
[04:24] now I know who you are. No no no no no
[04:26] it's good. But no. How has that worked
[04:28] the last 40 years? We've had robust
[04:29] affirmative action. You've had hiring
[04:31] practices. Has it made black America
[04:33] more successful? I can answer that
[04:34] easily. It's because it Oh, sorry. It
[04:37] It's because um Oh, sorry. What am I
[04:39] What am I going for? I don't know.
[04:43] You're a funny guy. Um so, what happened
[04:45] is even after the civil rights act, you
[04:48] you know what uh I believe I believe the
[04:49] term is massive resistance. It was a
[04:51] movement in uh after the Brown versus
[04:54] Board of Education in Virginia where
[04:56] essentially the legislature, which was
[04:57] still white supremacist, which is still
[04:59] extremely racist, they decided that no,
[05:01] we're going to do everything that
[05:03] feasibly possible within our means to
[05:05] stop black people from going to white
[05:07] schools. You even see this in U was I
[05:09] believe it's the Little Rock 9, right?
[05:10] Even after it was legalized at the state
[05:13] level, white supremacist mobs still
[05:15] mobilized to prevent it. So even if it
[05:17] de facto, it's gone. Did it still exist?
[05:19] Let me ask you a very simple question, a
[05:22] term you keep on throwing around. Got
[05:24] you. What is racism? What is racism?
[05:27] That's a very complicated question. No,
[05:29] it's not. I mean, there there's a simple
[05:31] answer and then there's the highly
[05:32] theoretical answer. The simple the
[05:34] simple answer will essentially be
[05:36] because
[05:38] we have like different skin colors that
[05:40] he's treated a different way than me. He
[05:42] has like a different upbringing than me.
[05:44] No, no, no. But what is racism in
[05:46] practice? Oh, it's discrimination based
[05:48] on the color. on the color of the skin.
[05:49] Yeah. Got it. Thank you. So, isn't it
[05:51] racist then to then penalize white
[05:52] people to come into college or to get
[05:54] jobs based on the color of their skin?
[05:56] Wouldn't that be racist?
[05:58] Uh, so you're arguing for a very racist
[06:01] policy, which is that we should actively
[06:02] discriminate against people based on the
[06:04] color of their skin, which is
[06:05] affirmative action in DEI in practice. I
[06:07] I just don't I just disagree with the
[06:09] premise that you can do like anti-white
[06:11] racism because uh because Wait, can you
[06:14] be racist against white people?
[06:17] No, bro. I'm a cracker, bro. What the?
[06:18] No, you can't be racist towards my bro.
[06:20] There's so many crackers here, bro.
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[06:58] Whoa. What are you going to do political
[06:59] violence to me, bro? Like, why are you
[07:00] saying that to me? You're making me
[07:02] scared.
[07:06] Okay. So, so let me tell you what we
[07:07] believe cuz you tell us what you
[07:08] believe. Your worldview is
[07:10] indistinguishable from the KKK. That you
[07:12] want that you want to organize the world
[07:15] based on skin color. We want to organize
[07:17] the world based on merit and character,
[07:19] based on how hard you work, what you
[07:21] bring to the table. I believe it's
[07:24] destructive and wrong to say that people
[07:26] are going to be organized or have their
[07:28] future set based on the color of their
[07:30] skin. I think it's tribalistic. I think
[07:33] it is divisive and I think it hurts the
[07:35] excellence of a country. You asked a
[07:38] question. Well, how are we going to help
[07:39] other communities? You know how you help
[07:40] other communities? Stop pandering to
[07:42] them and start treating them like
[07:43] individuals made in the image of God,
[07:45] not tribes to be organized for political
[07:48] purposes. Okay. So, do you think like
[07:50] when Trump is a now now he's president,
[07:52] now that racism is gone now cuz Trump is
[07:54] back, we're no longer pandering, right?
[07:56] Do you think that the conditions of uh
[07:58] of of black people of like do you think
[08:00] Oblak is going to become like a much
[08:01] nicer place? Do you think that
[08:04] Do you think that these uh very
[08:05] downturned sort of uh black
[08:08] neighborhoods that have been sort of
[08:09] left behind, do you think they're going
[08:10] to become revitalized now? Is that what
[08:11] you think is going to happen? Yeah,
[08:12] they'll do better for sure. Do you think
[08:13] they're going to do better now that
[08:15] we've stopped helping them? They're
[08:16] going to do better. Well, see that's an
[08:18] interesting thing that cuz it seems like
[08:19] contradictory to me just on basic logic.
[08:21] Well, it actually black Americans under
[08:23] Donald Trump in the first term saw the
[08:24] greatest economic renaissance that they
[08:26] saw since the 1950s
[08:28] increases, lowest unemployment,
[08:31] revitalization, amazing investment in
[08:33] their communities, opportunity zones. I
[08:35] mean, but that's when we had affirmative
[08:36] action. So, wouldn't that be bad? Well,
[08:38] again, we actually got rid of
[08:39] affirmative action now. But I'm talking
[08:41] about before. Those are unrelated things
[08:43] though. Just they don't seem unrelated
[08:45] to me. Well, affirm affirmative action
[08:47] policies addressing racism. They seem
[08:48] affirmative action is again so I'm
[08:50] sorry. I don't mean to interrupt you.
[08:51] No, you are. That's okay. I'm sorry.
[08:53] Affirmative action is largely federal
[08:55] government hiring practices and the
[08:56] adjacent institutions. I think that all
[08:59] communities will do even better when we
[09:01] stop living under the soft bigotry of
[09:03] low expectations. Inherent in your
[09:06] argument is that we have to pander to
[09:08] certain communities based on the color
[09:10] of their skin because they can't do as
[09:11] well as white people. I reject the
[09:13] premise. I think that we should try to
[09:14] say, "I don't care about the color of
[09:16] your skin. I care about what you bring
[09:17] to the table and stop pandering to
[09:19] people based on special criteria,
[09:21] points, and acceptance to college,
[09:23] saying that we're going to make it
[09:24] easier for one group and harder for
[09:25] another group. I don't think it's
[09:27] panding though. I think it's
[09:28] understanding. Okay. But understanding
[09:30] the circumstances based on that. Do you
[09:32] think that we should have black only
[09:33] dormitories in America? No. Why would I
[09:35] want that? Okay. Well, there's hundreds
[09:36] of schools that have those actually.
[09:38] What do you mean black only? Like
[09:39] they're not white people are not allowed
[09:41] in. White people are not allowed in.
[09:42] White people. Yeah. That's why I said
[09:43] white people are not allowed in.
[09:44] Correct. We have black only graduation
[09:46] ceremonies across the country. Well,
[09:47] those are from uh uh well, I believe
[09:49] those are most likely like H.B.CU,
[09:51] right? No, like the University of
[09:52] Michigan has one, Yale has one, Harvard
[09:54] has one. So, we're agreeing that that is
[09:57] wrong. That is the furthest extension of
[09:58] hyper race obsession. So, you have to
[10:01] you can you could choose one or the
[10:02] other. You can be race obsessed or merit
[10:04] obsessed. We as conservatives decide to
[10:06] be merit obsessed to build a country
[10:08] based on how hard you work and what
[10:10] you're able to deliver. Okay. But uh uh
[10:15] so wait here just I wasn't Yeah, final
[10:18] point. Sure. Okay. Uh here this thing's
[10:20] a little close. Oh, I'm I'm sorry. I I
[10:22] didn't mean to offend your wonderful
[10:24] setup here. Uh yeah, so I guess I'll
[10:26] just restate my point that uh I I I
[10:29] don't believe you you mentioned like all
[10:31] black dormitories, right? Uh I mean I I
[10:33] I don't really comment on that. I mean I
[10:35] don't know if that's real to me that
[10:36] sounds fake, but I'll give you the
[10:38] benefit of the doubt here. It's very
[10:39] real. Okay. But I I just think it's a
[10:41] very irrelevant kind of like aesthetic
[10:43] focus thing. It doesn't really affect
[10:45] the material conditions of like black.
[10:46] If you if you heard there were white
[10:47] only dormitories, there'd be marching in
[10:49] the streets, right? Oh, well cuz cuz
[10:51] Okay, I the difference is like for
[10:54] example, if you want to go back to
[10:54] segregation, the all-white dormatory was
[10:56] nice as all black one was. So if if
[10:59] that's the if that's if that was brought
[11:01] back, okay, if we were to do all white
[11:02] dormatory and all I'm not recommending
[11:04] it. I think actually segregation is
[11:05] wrong and evil and we're heading until
[11:07] Donald Trump we were heading in that
[11:08] direction until but like okay I I'll go
[11:11] back to cuz I I did let I let let it
[11:13] slip by but you mentioned that like uh
[11:15] in the early years of the Donald Trump
[11:16] presidency right that uh the conditions
[11:18] the employment and stuff were going out
[11:19] for uh black people what I would say is
[11:21] the economy works slow works at like a
[11:23] time dilation for when the policies
[11:25] initially enacted. So, well, well, I
[11:27] would I would probably assume based on
[11:28] what you said to me is that it was the
[11:29] Obama era policies that that actually
[11:32] led to that, not the Trump policies
[11:33] because stuff like tax cuts for the rest
[11:35] doesn't really help. In a year from now,
[11:37] we're going to have the greatest economy
[11:38] ever. They're going to say it's all
[11:39] Biden. It's all Biden. Well, I mean, if
[11:41] we I don't think that's going to happen.
[11:43] I personally I think the economy is
[11:44] going to with what all Elon Musk is
[11:45] doing. But, uh, if that if that was to
[11:47] happen, I mean, I I guess my whole world
[11:50] view, but I'm pretty What about What
[11:52] about Elon? What Elon's doing bothers
[11:53] you? Do do you not want to see the the
[11:55] government efficient? The government is
[11:57] efficient. He's just firing everybody.
[11:58] Looks like he did to Twitter. Y'all see
[12:00] what happened? The Twitter brat's racist
[12:01] as now. He's just a Nazi haven. It went
[12:03] from like a pretty pretty accepting
[12:06] place to like what like where like the
[12:08] average blue check marker is saying hail
[12:10] Hitler. Like Elon Musk himself has
[12:12] replied to like well he did the Nazi
[12:13] salute. Like we're not going to forget
[12:14] about that, are we? No, he didn't. What
[12:16] do you mean? Y'all see that clip, bro?
[12:18] Y'all see when he did that? All right.
[12:20] Oh, okay. Thank And by the way, I just
[12:22] want to thank you for something. You're
[12:23] welcome. Well, I want to thank you. Do I
[12:24] get Do I get a portion of like the
[12:26] TikTok revenue you're going to get from
[12:27] this? Can I I want to thank you. I want
[12:28] to thank you for something. Oh, yeah.
[12:30] You You are a perfect reminder why we
[12:33] won in November. So, thank you for that.
[12:34] I really appreciate it. Thank you.
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